MattStafford: And to follow up on my previous point, I think a lot of the anger directed at the ACA is because it was presented as some sort of magic solution where no one would suffer. Somehow we would get insurance to the poor and sick, and it wouldn't result in more expensive or worse insurance for anyone else. Clearly that is impossible, so people feel like they were lied to. Some people also hate black people.
Ontos: Chummer45: Yes, rather than a simple, single payer health care, I'd much rather have to spend the time wading through tons of different insurance plans and the various benefits they provide.Man... Instead of all these different foods in the grocery store, wouldn't it be great if the government just gave me oatmeal? Man... That would be great! I'd never have to think at all!shiat... Let's get rid of elections, car companies, cell phone providers... We could have the government just give us one choice. Yay!!!
Mugato: vrax: Mugato: vrax: Fortunately, the shiat plans that cover next to nothing are illegal and taken out of the mix so people aren't getting ripped off as they were before.Yeah but when your network isn't taking new patients for several months and you can't drop it and pick it up any time you want because of deadlines and you can't simply drop it without getting fined then you're still getting ripped off.Yeah, the "not accepting new patients" problem has existed for a LONG time before ACA though. It's a shiat problem.Then they need to get rid of the referral system where you have to get a referral from your PHCP before you can go anywhere else. If the system can't handle the volume then they need to make changes.
Lucky LaRue: Well, yeah, it is illegal. I can't buy a policy that doesn't meet the mandated requirements set forward by ACA and insurance companies can't offer it. The free market has been circumvented by government interference.
Lucky LaRue: Well, one of us isn't paying attention to the words... If I can pick any plan car offered by the free market, then I can pick a plan that doesn't meet the ACA safety requirements. I can't pick a plan car
mrshowrules: Reverend Monkeypants: In some parts of the world people become doctors because they're good at it and they want to help people get healthy. Not because of the enriching profit margin.Imagine thatUS doctors make about 30% more than Canadian doctors. I think many US doctors would gladly take a 30% pay cut if they could avoid paying 10 times higher malpractice insurance while also being able to decide a patients treatment without negotiating with an insurance company
Animatronik: The idea is to eventually eliminate all choices until the only choice left is single payer. Single payer through the government will set you free, you won't need or want choices.
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