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(Minneapolis Star Tribune)   No foam for you. Minneapolis considers banning foam take out containers. Large Cokes, politically incorrect people and Bloomberg terminal next on agenda   (startribune.com) divider line 103
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2014-05-13 10:33:34 AM
Banning drink sizes was the dumbest farking thing ever but banning materials that end up in landfills may have merit.
 
2014-05-13 11:11:32 AM
It's 2014 and they're just getting around to banning styrofoam?
Get with the times!

Do you hicks still burn tires?
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-05-13 11:21:57 AM
In my area they're going after plastic bags because that's the progressive thing to do. The supermarkets already recycle bags (Shaws) or use paper (Trader Joe's). Little stores would be exempt. Sometimes even a part time legislative body has too much time on its hands.
 
2014-05-13 01:27:57 PM
Good, you can get compostable containers like most of the restaurants in Seattle have.  They don't do nearly as much damage.  Although they tend to bleed through.
 
2014-05-13 01:28:41 PM

Honest Bender: Do you hicks still burn tires?


That is called reuse.  Instead of just throwing them away we can use them for entertainment and warmth on a bonfire.  Reuse is good for the environment.
 
2014-05-13 01:28:44 PM

Honest Bender: It's 2014 and they're just getting around to banning styrofoam?
Get with the times!

Do you hicks still burn tires?


Have a better way to heat the house?
 
2014-05-13 01:30:19 PM
Eh, they've banned plastic shopping bags here in Austin, so this is nothing.
 
2014-05-13 01:30:35 PM
Good... I hate foam cups. Either the straw pokes a hole in the side and it leaks, the lid won't stay on, or you brush something against it(Sometimes another cup) and the sound send me into fits. Ban 'em all!!

Also, in situations like this, I can't understand why the 'container industry' gives a fark. They make more than the foam cups, and if it's more expensive for the businesses, since the foam isn't available, they pay more or don't sell drinks. The container industry should see this as a push at worst and an increase in profits at the best.
 
2014-05-13 01:30:44 PM
I thought we did that with the demise of the Mc D.L.T.

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I rarely see those containers. It's either paper and foil or clear plastic. The clear plastic has the advantage of seeing what's inside the container and reminding you to eat your leftovers.
 
2014-05-13 01:31:47 PM
Styrofoam containers make the food soggy anyway.
 
2014-05-13 01:33:58 PM

Honest Bender: It's 2014 and they're just getting around to banning styrofoam?
Get with the times!

Do you hicks still burn tires?


Yes, but only at night, that way the law doesn't see the black smoke.

/burns his paper trash
 
2014-05-13 01:33:59 PM
"It won't eliminate waste, and ... will be replaced by another form of packaging."

Now now now, let's not let logic get in the way of government control!


Wait a second...

"It won't eliminate murder, and ... will be replaced by another method of killing."

HMMMMMMMMM. I knew that looked familiar.
 
2014-05-13 01:34:33 PM
I'd be happy to see restaurants switch to a rigid waxed paper type of carry-out container similar to Chinese food boxes. Styrofoam is just not a durable enough material.
 
2014-05-13 01:34:37 PM
Hurrrrr banning stuff is for stupid pussy liberuls durrrr
 
2014-05-13 01:34:48 PM
I gave up styrofoam containers a long time ago. I only eat my takeout food from the skulls of baby harp seals.
 
2014-05-13 01:38:17 PM

Bonobo62: I gave up styrofoam containers a long time ago. I only eat my takeout food from the skulls of baby harp seals.


fresh skulls only,old skulls have a gamey taste
 
2014-05-13 01:38:47 PM
As long as we're banning things here, I've never thought that highly of noticeable facial moles, or scruffy dogs.
 
2014-05-13 01:39:20 PM
The problem with polystyrene isn't so much that it isn't recyclable and doesn't biodegrade in the land fill.  A card board pizza box isn't very recyclable and take  years to boidegrade in a land fill.  The problem happens when it doesn't end up in the land fill.
 
2014-05-13 01:40:10 PM
When foam is outlawed only outlaws will have foam.
 
2014-05-13 01:41:20 PM
I call bullshiat.  Nobody in America takes home anything from their portions large enough to feed an African family for a week.  We just eat it all because we're either fat fat fatties
 
2014-05-13 01:41:35 PM

Mrs.Sharpier: Hurrrrr banning stuff is for stupid pussy liberuls durrrr


You mean like banning gay marriage?
 
2014-05-13 01:41:46 PM
its official

the terr'ists have won :(
 
2014-05-13 01:46:09 PM

Smeggy Smurf: I call bullshiat.  Nobody in America takes home anything from their portions large enough to feed an African family for a week.  We just eat it all because we're either fat fat fatties


In Minneapolis, a very, very large number of workers buy takeout meals from restaurants in the skyways. It's not so much the "doggy bag" type of to-go box use as the "take away meal" type, at least in this case. Worse, a lot of the skyway restaurants give you your styrofoam-contained lunch in a convenient plastic carrying bag.
 
2014-05-13 01:48:18 PM
Yes... Yes!!! More rules!!! More laws!!! Utopia, here we come!
 
2014-05-13 01:51:26 PM

ZAZ: In my area they're going after plastic bags because that's the progressive thing to do. The supermarkets already recycle bags (Shaws) or use paper (Trader Joe's). Little stores would be exempt. Sometimes even a part time legislative body has too much time on its hands.



Here in DC we instituted a small tax on plastic bags (the disposable type) because they were everywhere, garbaging up our waterways. $0.05 per bag, which is really not even something you'd even notice on your grocery bill (especially in the sity where you're not bringing home 3.2 metric tons of food from Costco - the apartments are small in the city!).

Even though the tax was insignificant it had a profound effect psychologically - people utterly HATE being charged for something they think of as "free" even if those things really aren't free (nothing is) no matter how small the new price is. It had a major impact in short order, and we don't see near as many of those bags farking up our waterways. Visibly less pollution, still have the option of the bags when you really need them and the bag cost at $0.05 is completely negligable when you do need one - everyone wins.


I fail to see this as a "progressive thing to do" - it's just a "not wanting humans to be dickheads who unthinkingly fling their bullshiat everywhere like some kind of moronic animal 'thing'." I mean, if you want to cede the "not being dickheads" ground to progressives, then by all means. But personally, even though I'm not a progressive myself I'd rather we not all act like mentally handicapped dickheads, polluting everything around us "because reasons". Doesn't seem like a progressive or conservative thing, just a non-dickhead thing.
 
2014-05-13 01:52:47 PM

mrshowrules: Banning drink sizes was the dumbest farking thing ever but banning materials that end up in landfills may have merit.


Minnesota is a big fishing state and if you've spent anytime fishing you know that a lot of styrofoam ends up in the reeds and backwaters.  Unfortunately, much of that is careless handing of bait.
 
2014-05-13 01:55:19 PM

menschenfresser: Smeggy Smurf: I call bullshiat.  Nobody in America takes home anything from their portions large enough to feed an African family for a week.  We just eat it all because we're either fat fat fatties

In Minneapolis, a very, very large number of workers buy takeout meals from restaurants in the skyways. It's not so much the "doggy bag" type of to-go box use as the "take away meal" type, at least in this case. Worse, a lot of the skyway restaurants give you your styrofoam-contained lunch in a convenient plastic carrying bag.


QUIT TRUTHING UP MY SNARK
 
2014-05-13 01:55:27 PM

mafiageek1980: Eh, they've banned plastic shopping bags here in Austin, so this is nothing.


Hilarious to see the Republican controlled Legislature try to get the ban overturned because some dipshiat from Yoakum was affronted, and because FREEDUMB.
 
2014-05-13 01:57:04 PM

Rapmaster2000: mrshowrules: Banning drink sizes was the dumbest farking thing ever but banning materials that end up in landfills may have merit.

Minnesota is a big fishing state and if you've spent anytime fishing you know that a lot of styrofoam ends up in the reeds and backwaters.  Unfortunately, much of that is careless handing of bait.


You got that right. It's so sad to see the beautiful streams and lakes of Minnesota with those trash items floating in them.

For that matter, think of the masses of discarded styrofoam containers and plastic bags on the freeways. The sides of 35W south of downtown are almost completely covered with trash like that and it's all there for everyone to see now that the snow has melted. Something has to be done, although I'm not sure what.
 
2014-05-13 01:57:05 PM
You can take our styrofoam containers from Michele Bachmann's cold dead hands. Please.
 
2014-05-13 01:57:24 PM

mongbiohazard: Doesn't seem like a progressive or conservative thing, just a non-dickhead thing.


You're right. Seems like we need very harsh anti-littering laws; because it just isn't the stuff the article is referring to. It's all forms of trash that can be a problem.
 
2014-05-13 01:58:54 PM

Smeggy Smurf: QUIT TRUTHING UP MY SNARK


Love ya, Smegs!
 
2014-05-13 02:05:56 PM

Robin Hoodie: Bonobo62: I gave up styrofoam containers a long time ago. I only eat my takeout food from the skulls of baby harp seals.

fresh skulls only,old skulls have a gamey taste


If you don't re-use the skulls, they just end up in landfills. Don't you care about the environment?
 
2014-05-13 02:08:29 PM
I live in Minneapolis and I threw a half-eaten cookie out my car window this morning.

I undercooked them.

A squirrel probably already ate it.

No styrofoam though.
 
2014-05-13 02:11:03 PM
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stay out of Minneapolis, rick
 
2014-05-13 02:11:16 PM

dv-ous: I live in Minneapolis and I threw a half-eaten cookie out my car window this morning.

I undercooked them.

A squirrel probably already ate it.

No styrofoam though.


I think what you technically did is some form of using nature to naturally compost.
 
2014-05-13 02:13:01 PM
Would you like fries with that? Here, hold out your hands.
 
2014-05-13 02:14:59 PM

ZAZ: In my area they're going after plastic bags because that's the progressive thing to do. The supermarkets already recycle bags (Shaws) or use paper (Trader Joe's). Little stores would be exempt. Sometimes even a part time legislative body has too much time on its hands.


Remember when plastic bags were the answer because they saved trees? Why DOES TRADER JOE'S HATE TREES?
 
2014-05-13 02:15:36 PM

Destructor: mongbiohazard: Doesn't seem like a progressive or conservative thing, just a non-dickhead thing.

You're right. Seems like we need very harsh anti-littering laws; because it just isn't the stuff the article is referring to. It's all forms of trash that can be a problem.


Which are great and all... but not sufficient because you can never be everywhere watching to see if anyone litters anywhere, ever. You really think we're going to catch the schmuck tossing his empty container in the plastic bag out the window of his car at 12:45 am on some highway? Or all of those kinds of schmucks? And even if we could be I don't want to live in that kind of country where we're always under surveillance just to keep us from rhetorically shiatting all over our own neighborhoods and waterways.

So, making smart policies which reduce or elimate that waste from the stream of our civilization in the first place is the way to go. There's not a damn thing wrong with being more intelligent about the materials we use in our daily lives.

Smarter use of better materials by society, not enforcement of 'less bad' use of shiattier materials. Not only did we here in DC get used to using reusable bags really quickly, a lot of us came to prefer them too. Stronger bags mean your groceries don't dump out all over the ground when you're trying to get your front door unlocked with 6 of them in your hands and one of the flimsy things rips.
 
2014-05-13 02:19:22 PM

jjorsett: ZAZ: In my area they're going after plastic bags because that's the progressive thing to do. The supermarkets already recycle bags (Shaws) or use paper (Trader Joe's). Little stores would be exempt. Sometimes even a part time legislative body has too much time on its hands.

Remember when plastic bags were the answer because they saved trees? Why DOES TRADER JOE'S HATE TREES?


Plastic bags was a greenwashing campaign by the petroleum industry to sell more petroleum products.

I'm just making that up but it sounds good right?
 
2014-05-13 02:22:50 PM

jjorsett: ZAZ: In my area they're going after plastic bags because that's the progressive thing to do. The supermarkets already recycle bags (Shaws) or use paper (Trader Joe's). Little stores would be exempt. Sometimes even a part time legislative body has too much time on its hands.

Remember when plastic bags were the answer because they saved trees? Why DOES TRADER JOE'S HATE TREES?



No, but then again I'm only 40.

And if we did try and save trees with the us of plastic was it old growth trees? The kind that can't really be replaced? Are you saying it was a wise strategy?

Trees in general are a renewable resource if you're smart about them. Planting relatively fast growing trees and then making a circuit around various areas you have planted before as the trees mature. Keep cutting down the oldest trees you planted and re-planting as you go. That's a sustainable practice. Cutting down redwoods to make popsicle sticks or clothes hangars or something is NOT.

So maybe you're talking about some ill-conceived campaign. OK.... it was ill conceived. Nothing wrong with trying to replace disposable plastic bags with something that won't be our civilization taking a massive shiat all over our biosphere like a bunch of dickheads. There's a patch of plastic garbage in the middle of the Pacific Ocean the size of farking Texas for Christ's sake...
 
2014-05-13 02:27:00 PM

Honest Bender: It's 2014 and they're just getting around to banning styrofoam?
Get with the times!

Do you hicks still burn tires?



That was my thought.  I haven't seen a styrofoam fast food container in years.  And, strangely, no one has died and the economy hasn't collapsed because of it.
 
2014-05-13 02:28:17 PM
In Minneapolis, when you take your food outside doesn't it freeze solid immediately?
 
2014-05-13 02:29:31 PM
Back when McDonalds was getting rid of foam, my best friend's Mom was working at a company that had just developed a method for recycling Styrofoam. Too late, I guess.
 
2014-05-13 02:31:10 PM
You know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna get myself a 1967 Cadaliac Eldarado Convertable, Hot Pink! With whale skin hub caps, An all leather cow interior, And big brown baby seal eyes for headlights. YEAH! And I'm gonna drive around in that baby, At 115 miles per hour, Getting one mile per gallon, Sucking down quarter pounder cheeseburgers from McDonalds in the old-fasioned non-biodegradable styrafoam containers. And when I'm done sucking down those grease ball burgers, I'm gonna wipe my mouth in the American flag, And then I'm gonna toss the styrafoam containers right out the side,
 
2014-05-13 02:31:17 PM
They shouldn't give any container or wrapping for take out food.  If people want soup they should bring their own containers or just cup their hands and have the server pour it in.
 
2014-05-13 02:35:54 PM

Tax Boy: In Minneapolis, when you take your food outside doesn't it freeze solid immediately?


If not, the mosquitoes eat it
 
2014-05-13 02:39:21 PM

mongbiohazard: Remember when plastic bags were the answer because they saved trees? Why DOES TRADER JOE'S HATE TREES?


No, but then again I'm only 40.


I remember it from when I was a kid but I'm 28. I was a big thing at one point that paper bags were being made out of trees and we needed to save the trees.
 
2014-05-13 02:39:25 PM

Raoul Eaton: Honest Bender: It's 2014 and they're just getting around to banning styrofoam?
Get with the times!

Do you hicks still burn tires?


That was my thought.  I haven't seen a styrofoam fast food container in years.  And, strangely, no one has died and the economy hasn't collapsed because of it.


These kinds of things make me wonder what the outcry was like when leaded gas was phased out.
 
2014-05-13 02:39:50 PM

boinkingbill: They shouldn't give any container or wrapping for take out food.  If people want soup they should bring their own containers or just cup their hands and have the server pour it in.


What if they made a soup vending machine like a gas pump, and instead of silverware they just have replaceable nozzles, like a plastic gas can. So you just chug the soup down til you're full and you're charged by the cup.
 
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