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(USA Today)   Lawyers for Kentucky argue that same-sex marriages will wreck the state's economic future. That's the joke   (usatoday.com ) divider line
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2014-05-13 03:37:20 PM  

Theaetetus: In the 32-page appeal, attorney Leigh Gross Latherow says Kentucky has an interest in maintaining birth rates, which if allowed to fall can induce economic crises because of the reduced demand for good and services, and the reduction of the work force.
Latherow explained in the appeal how allowing gays to marry would reduce the birth rate among heterosexual couples, stating that many married couples in Kentucky, particularly conservative Republicans, are actually closeted homosexuals who have been trapped in resentful, unloving relationships.  Latherow cited the popular term "beard", and noted that many homosexuals have children, for example, as a result of dutiful eyes-closed sex while fantasizing about their real preferred partner.  Allowing gay marriage, the appeal concludes, would mean that these bitter and spiteful, yet fruitful faux-heterosexual relationships would not exist, with a resulting reduction in birth rates.


Translation:  We want people in hate-filled sham marriages, rather than loving healthy relationships.

I lose, obviously.
 
2014-05-13 04:06:52 PM  
 
2014-05-13 04:28:21 PM  

Biological Ali: I kind of feel for the lawyers in situations like these - it's their job to go out and make these arguments, but there's no way that they (or for that matter anybody else with the benefit of at least a high school education) could actually believe them.

Must be tough, though I suppose the piles of money they get paid might make up for it.


Lawyes have every right to refuse a case. These guys chose to pursue this case. They are either true believers or greedy sacks of shiat. Maybe it sucks for some staffers and such, but the guys in front of the cameras are there purely for greed and/or stupidity.
 
2014-05-13 04:32:17 PM  

Nix Nightbird: While I understand and approve of removing gender discrimination from marriage contracts across the nation, I also don't understand why gay people would choose to live in a state that hates them so much.

Example: I am, at best, described as an agnostic witch, if I'm anything at all in regards to religion. Either way, I don't buy into the Judeo-Christian stories one bit, and find most people involved in those religions to be mentally-stunted, judgmental jerks about 92.577% of the time. Ergo, I don't live in Kansas.

I also don't like large crowds, so I don't live in New York City.

I also don't like dying or losing all my stuff in a tornado, therefore I opted not to live in Oklahoma.

I used to live in the Detroit area. At one point, while working I had a gun shoved in my face. I decided I would like to avoid having another gun pointed at me, so I MOVED THE FARK OUT OF DETROIT... And since then, the gun-in-my-face problem has gone away.

So why wouldn't a gay couple just pack up, move to Massachussettes or somewhere welcoming, and leave the podunk assholes in Kentucky behind? There's no geography or landscape worth putting up with awful people.


There are numerous reasons to live somewhere. Job and family/friends probably being the two biggest.

Hell, a lot of the gay people probably livein areas that are supportive.

Plus the very idea that you are moving purely because the government has denied you your rights is an issue in and of itself.
 
2014-05-13 04:55:14 PM  

dywed88: Biological Ali: I kind of feel for the lawyers in situations like these - it's their job to go out and make these arguments, but there's no way that they (or for that matter anybody else with the benefit of at least a high school education) could actually believe them.

Must be tough, though I suppose the piles of money they get paid might make up for it.

Lawyes have every right to refuse a case. These guys chose to pursue this case. They are either true believers or greedy sacks of shiat. Maybe it sucks for some staffers and such, but the guys in front of the cameras are there purely for greed and/or stupidity.


I'm not discounting the possibility that these lawyers might genuinely oppose same-sex marriage on religious grounds, but there is literally nobody (except for, perhaps, very young children) who would actually take this "birth rate" argument seriously.
 
2014-05-13 05:14:16 PM  
If they are REALLY worried about declining fertility rates, then they should stop educating women...

///Just joking, but educating women does much more to lower childbirth rates than gay marriage ever could- Kentucky is backing the wrong horse in their derby there!

http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2011/pop994.doc.htm
 
2014-05-13 05:42:38 PM  
Because if you don't let gay people get married they'll HAVE to start having straight sex.
 
2014-05-13 06:17:23 PM  
Face it the real reason for the ban is that in Kentucky if they allow this the next thing you know there will be sex between turtles and humans.

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2014-05-13 07:44:16 PM  
Is this a good time to talk about gay divorce?
Just sayin' a lot of the assumptions built into current system are lookin' for a female.
 
2014-05-13 07:51:57 PM  
Not enough people living in your state? Don't feel like increasing opportunities for new businesses? Sick of "out-of-staters" moving into your neighborhood? Infrastructure, Education, and Jobs seem like a waste of time?

Why not... Outlaw Gay Marriage!

/that will fix it right up!
 
2014-05-13 08:27:26 PM  

Biological Ali: dywed88: Biological Ali: I kind of feel for the lawyers in situations like these - it's their job to go out and make these arguments, but there's no way that they (or for that matter anybody else with the benefit of at least a high school education) could actually believe them.

Must be tough, though I suppose the piles of money they get paid might make up for it.

Lawyes have every right to refuse a case. These guys chose to pursue this case. They are either true believers or greedy sacks of shiat. Maybe it sucks for some staffers and such, but the guys in front of the cameras are there purely for greed and/or stupidity.

I'm not discounting the possibility that these lawyers might genuinely oppose same-sex marriage on religious grounds, but there is literally nobody (except for, perhaps, very young children) who would actually take this "birth rate" argument seriously.


I think you are underestimating a) the stupidity of people and b) the power of willfull ignorance.

But you added a third possibility, lying scumbags as a result of one of the first two.
 
2014-05-13 08:54:17 PM  
Why not?  The same argument worked out well in all the other states that tried it.

derpitty derpitty doo.
 
2014-05-14 12:22:49 AM  

Karac: Close2TheEdge: When you have no actual arguments beyond "my religion doesn't approve of the gheys" then you grasp for straws.  When you grasp for straws, you look like a dipshiat.  When you look like a dipshiat, you end up on the wrong side of history.

Don't end up on the wrong side of history.

TOO LATE!
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they should have intensified the forward batteries

/don't want anything getting through
 
2014-05-14 12:48:47 AM  
I love how they explained the term "beard" when making their argument.
 
2014-05-14 08:44:00 AM  

Rigby-Reardon: Once married Kentucky couples will have 18 months to conceive. If no offspring is produced the couples will be fined $2000.00 and given a state issued baby.


don't give them ideas
 
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