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(LA Times)   You know who really killed Paul Walker and Roger Rodas? Porsche and its overpowered, oversteering death trap of a car   (latimes.com) divider line 130
    More: Followup, Roger Rodas, Mark Martin, Carrera GT, Los Angeles Superior Court, personal injury lawyer, Los Angeles County Sheriff, San Diego Superior Court, Le Mans  
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2014-05-13 08:12:48 AM
Thank you Ralph Nader.
 
2014-05-13 10:36:07 AM
Yay, more potential libel
 
2014-05-13 11:32:40 AM
Well, yea.
 
2014-05-13 11:32:46 AM
I thought it was well known amongst car aficionados that the Carrera GT was incredibly difficult to drive.  I seem to remember one of the big car magazines crashing their test-drive car.  I'm no stranger to stupid-powerful cars but I wouldn't touch a CGT with a German over-engineered 10-meter carbon fiber pole.
 
2014-05-13 11:32:56 AM
Easy to defend this by saying the road was designed for only a certain speed.
 
2014-05-13 11:33:00 AM
"The suit alleges that the $500,000 vehicle was going just 55 mph on Nov. 30, 2013, when it "malfunctioned" and crashed, wrote attorney Mark Geragos."

Bullshiat!
 
2014-05-13 11:33:35 AM
And, that is not a flaw, it is FEATURES.
 
2014-05-13 11:34:38 AM

KidKorporate: I thought it was well known amongst car aficionados that the Carrera GT was incredibly difficult to drive.  I seem to remember one of the big car magazines crashing their test-drive car.  I'm no stranger to stupid-powerful cars but I wouldn't touch a CGT with a German over-engineered 10-meter carbon fiber pole.


The valet could not get it parked, so hot shot jumped in to "park" it.
 
2014-05-13 11:35:15 AM
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"The only Porsche worth driving is the 911."
 
2014-05-13 11:36:12 AM
We're raising an entire generation of drivers who know nothing but electronic stability control systems. God help us.
 
2014-05-13 11:36:16 AM

KidKorporate: I thought it was well known amongst car aficionados that the Carrera GT was incredibly difficult to drive.


It is extremely well known that they are difficult to keep under control if you're driving like a bell end.
 
2014-05-13 11:36:43 AM
Even Hollywood Stupid should know better than to fark with a car like that on cold rubber on civilian streets.
 
2014-05-13 11:37:09 AM
I wonder if he also spilled hot coffee on his crotch?
 
2014-05-13 11:37:19 AM

imnotadoctor: "The suit alleges that the $500,000 vehicle was going just 55 mph on Nov. 30, 2013, when it "malfunctioned" and crashed, wrote attorney Mark Geragos."

Bullshiat!


Yeah, RIGHT.  (I'ts Bullshiat)
 
2014-05-13 11:38:04 AM

Satanic_Hamster: [news.bbcimg.co.uk image 640x360]

"The only Porsche worth driving is the 911."


Can we just dump Clarkson and keep the show?
I do suspect he owns the marbles.
 
2014-05-13 11:38:04 AM
Has it ever been truly determined what happened in the crash?  Or are we still going off of "unnamed" sources?
 
2014-05-13 11:38:14 AM
To be fair, the car was a smoldering ruin.
 
2014-05-13 11:38:25 AM
Of course it's overpowered and over-steers....it's a fricken Porche!

Thats WHY you bought the damn thing to start with.

You pays your money and takes your chance.
 
2014-05-13 11:39:07 AM
Surprised it's taken this long for the lawsuits to start flying.....DRTFA, but I'm sure somebody is suing Walker's estate, the city/county, the tire mfg, the landscaper that planted the tree, some random guy walking down the street and the Dutch....because FARK THE DUTCH!!
 
2014-05-13 11:39:34 AM
The driver was well acquainted with the risk of driving such a car.
 
2014-05-13 11:40:22 AM
I heard that Paul Walker just quit smoking.
 
2014-05-13 11:41:16 AM

Cold_Sassy: imnotadoctor: "The suit alleges that the $500,000 vehicle was going just 55 mph on Nov. 30, 2013, when it "malfunctioned" and crashed, wrote attorney Mark Geragos."

Bullshiat!

Yeah, RIGHT.  (I'ts Bullshiat)


Lawyers are moving their lips. Use the intrepeter.

Perhaps malfunction occurred 2 seconds before hitting 125mph, indeed a floormat improperly installed could have jammed the accelerator. Or, a loose wingnut.
 
2014-05-13 11:45:15 AM

Fubegra: We're raising an entire generation of drivers who know nothing but electronic stability control systems. God help us.


Soon enough we'll be raising drivers who think that steering wheels are quaint redundancies.

But, the same could have been said of ABS and automatic transmissions too, so I don't think it'll make any difference.

People will be shiatty drivers no matter how much or little in-car help you give them.
 
2014-05-13 11:45:21 AM

dryknife: I heard that Paul Walker just quit smoking.


Nope, he's still smoldering. Hit him with another blast from the fire extinguisher.
 
2014-05-13 11:46:08 AM
This is just the Main Stream Media attempting to distract us from Benghazi so Obama can run again.
 
2014-05-13 11:46:16 AM

hinten: I wonder if he also spilled hot coffee on his crotch?


Actually the Porsche model in question can be fitted with the optional scalding hot coffee enema bag that deploys automatically when it detects a crash.

It's kind of like an airbag, but involves boiling fluid up your ass.
 
2014-05-13 11:46:59 AM
Evidently the durbnpoisn.comli.com tag is on vacation.
 
2014-05-13 11:48:04 AM

HMS_Blinkin: Fubegra: We're raising an entire generation of drivers who know nothing but electronic stability control systems. God help us.

Soon enough we'll be raising drivers who think that steering wheels are quaint redundancies.

But, the same could have been said of ABS and automatic transmissions too, so I don't think it'll make any difference.

People will be shiatty drivers no matter how much or little in-car help you give them.


Actually, there is some evidence that by making cars safer, you encourage people to take greater risks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Risk_compensation
 
2014-05-13 11:50:17 AM

Satanic_Hamster: "The only Porsche worth driving is the 911."


"...and James can't do oversteer because he thinks it's a left-wing plot."
 
2014-05-13 11:50:19 AM
ecx.images-amazon.com
 
2014-05-13 11:50:54 AM
The lightweight construction in the 605-horsepower vehicle described by Porsche as "close to a race car as we will ever get" lacked a proper crash cage and safety features


They told you it was close to a racecar, the difference is the lack of safety features, truth in advertising ftw!
 
2014-05-13 11:52:10 AM

dittybopper: HMS_Blinkin: Fubegra: We're raising an entire generation of drivers who know nothing but electronic stability control systems. God help us.

Soon enough we'll be raising drivers who think that steering wheels are quaint redundancies.

But, the same could have been said of ABS and automatic transmissions too, so I don't think it'll make any difference.

People will be shiatty drivers no matter how much or little in-car help you give them.

Actually, there is some evidence that by making cars safer, you encourage people to take greater risks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Risk_compensation


The safety measures are there just as much to save the lives of people in the path of the idiots.
 
2014-05-13 11:53:25 AM
Funny...I would have figured that it was the sudden stop and subsequent conflagration.
 
2014-05-13 11:54:42 AM

dryknife: I heard that Paul Walker just quit smoking.


Apparently he started again.
 
2014-05-13 11:54:50 AM
fark the widow and fark the 2 guys in the car.  I'm glad they are dead.  Maybe it will prevent a few Fast&Furious wannabes from taking out some innocent people when they crash their cars emulating the recklessness Paul Walker movies promoted.
 
2014-05-13 11:56:03 AM

Satanic_Hamster: "The only Porsche worth driving is the 911."


He musta been drunk when he said that. 356C/SC is much better.
 
2014-05-13 11:58:09 AM
Gee, Mark Geragos jumping on another high-profile ambulance chasing case. This is my surprised face o.o
 
2014-05-13 11:58:57 AM

SquiggsIN: fark the widow and fark the 2 guys in the car.  I'm glad they are dead.  Maybe it will prevent a few Fast&Furious wannabes from taking out some innocent people when they crash their cars emulating the recklessness Paul Walker movies promoted.


You're an asshole. Just sayin'
 
2014-05-13 11:59:54 AM

snocone: Cold_Sassy: imnotadoctor: "The suit alleges that the $500,000 vehicle was going just 55 mph on Nov. 30, 2013, when it "malfunctioned" and crashed, wrote attorney Mark Geragos."

Bullshiat!

Yeah, RIGHT.  (I'ts Bullshiat)

Lawyers are moving their lips. Use the intrepeter.

Perhaps malfunction occurred 2 seconds before hitting 125mph, indeed a floormat improperly installed could have jammed the accelerator. Or, a loose wingnut.


CSB  One time about 5 years ago a mouse built a nest in my air filter and was getting and hoarding birdseed from somewhere (probably next door)  I took the car to get an oil change and when they checked the filter somehow some of the birdseed spilled out and jammed up the accelerator linkage and when I left the shop it got stuck open.  I was startled, but turned the key off and rolled into a driveway.

/shiat malfunctions.  Be ready.
 
2014-05-13 12:00:24 PM
I'm sure at some instant, directly after smashing into that tree, the car was going 55mph.  Also 115, 100, 85, etc...
 
2014-05-13 12:00:49 PM
FTFA:
The suit alleges that the $500,000 vehicle was going just 55 mph on Nov. 30, 2013, when it "malfunctioned" and crashed, wrote attorney Mark Geragos.
The lawsuit contends that the right rear tire suddenly steered to the left and that despite the efforts of Rodas, a veteran race car driver, the vehicle continued a clockwise movement before climbing the curb, swiping a tree and then hitting a light pole and a second tree.


I stopped reading there.  At 55 mph the freaking Cayenne could have stopped enough to not be lethal, let alone one of the cars.  I'm not going to be convinced that the steering completely failed AND the brakes completely failed at the same time without a LOT of people who have engineering degrees telling me why.  Especially when the police have the completely logical "they were going 90 mph" report.
 
2014-05-13 12:00:59 PM

SirGeorgeBurkelwitzIII: SquiggsIN: fark the widow and fark the 2 guys in the car.  I'm glad they are dead.  Maybe it will prevent a few Fast&Furious wannabes from taking out some innocent people when they crash their cars emulating the recklessness Paul Walker movies promoted.

You're an asshole. Just sayin'


Nice profile pic, douchebag.
 
2014-05-13 12:00:59 PM
People will be shiatty drivers no matter how much or little in-car help you give them.

LOL, how true.
 
2014-05-13 12:02:25 PM

Cold_Sassy: snocone: Cold_Sassy: imnotadoctor: "The suit alleges that the $500,000 vehicle was going just 55 mph on Nov. 30, 2013, when it "malfunctioned" and crashed, wrote attorney Mark Geragos."

Bullshiat!

Yeah, RIGHT.  (I'ts Bullshiat)

Lawyers are moving their lips. Use the intrepeter.

Perhaps malfunction occurred 2 seconds before hitting 125mph, indeed a floormat improperly installed could have jammed the accelerator. Or, a loose wingnut.

CSB  One time about 5 years ago a mouse built a nest in my air filter and was getting and hoarding birdseed from somewhere (probably next door)  I took the car to get an oil change and when they checked the filter somehow some of the birdseed spilled out and jammed up the accelerator linkage and when I left the shop it got stuck open.  I was startled, but turned the key off and rolled into a driveway.

/shiat malfunctions.  Be ready.


Yea, I have been lucky twice w/ unintentional WOT.
 
2014-05-13 12:02:52 PM

SquiggsIN: fark the widow and fark the 2 guys in the car.  I'm glad they are dead.  Maybe it will prevent a few Fast&Furious wannabes from taking out some innocent people when they crash their cars emulating the recklessness Paul Walker movies promoted.


I bet you're a blast at parties
 
2014-05-13 12:03:41 PM
It's still too soon to start talking about sports car control laws.
 
2014-05-13 12:04:59 PM

SquiggsIN: fark the widow and fark the 2 guys in the car.  I'm glad they are dead.  Maybe it will prevent a few Fast&Furious wannabes from taking out some innocent people when they crash their cars emulating the recklessness Paul Walker movies promoted.


You're coming on a little too strong. 2/10

Seriously though, as long as your not driving like a complete shiatbag, even the shiattiest cars in the world are capable of driving in a straight line without spinning out of control.....like Porsches for instance.
 
2014-05-13 12:06:28 PM

SquiggsIN: SirGeorgeBurkelwitzIII: SquiggsIN: fark the widow and fark the 2 guys in the car.  I'm glad they are dead.  Maybe it will prevent a few Fast&Furious wannabes from taking out some innocent people when they crash their cars emulating the recklessness Paul Walker movies promoted.

You're an asshole. Just sayin'

Nice profile pic, douchebag.


Oooooo, good one.
I'm not the one happy about the death of a couple guys and saying "fark the widow". I'm not even a Paul Walker fan, but what you said is despicable.
 
2014-05-13 12:07:56 PM

Cold_Sassy: I took the car to get an oil change and when they checked the filter somehow some of the birdseed spilled out and jammed up the accelerator linkage and when I left the shop it got stuck open.  I was startled, but turned the key off and rolled into a driveway.

/shiat malfunctions.  Be ready.


Problem is that when things happen outside the range of 'go/stop/turn' 99% of the people on the road freeze up and go from 'Driver' to 'Passenger' and the laws of physics take over.

I wish the US had driver certification requirements like Finland.  And it cost about ten grand and many hours of certification to get a license instead of our current 50 cents in the bubble gum machine and remember to turn the crank system that is currently in place for US driver certification.

/lots of you would be without a license and on a farking bus where you belong.
 
2014-05-13 12:08:03 PM

imnotadoctor: "The suit alleges that the $500,000 vehicle was going just 55 mph on Nov. 30, 2013, when it "malfunctioned" and crashed, wrote attorney Mark Geragos."

Bullshiat!


Double Bullshiat!
 
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