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(Science Blogs)   Cool: High school students produce an acclaimed documentary film on vaccines: WTFark insane: Anti-vaccine groups send them death threats for it   (scienceblogs.com) divider line 58
    More: Fail, Sharyl Attkisson, death threat, Paul Offit, Andrew Wakefield, high schools, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., standards-based education reform, propaganda films  
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2014-05-12 05:13:17 PM  
Um, isn't issuing death threats against highschoolers a criminal offense, especially in the post-Columbine era?
 
2014-05-12 05:19:18 PM  
WTFark Insane is thinking vaccines cause autism or something.

At that point, sending death threats to sane people is actually a return towards sanity on the absolute scale.
 
2014-05-12 05:22:43 PM  

i253.photobucket.com

 
2014-05-12 05:23:34 PM  
*reads article*

Okay, social and political pressure is one thing, but I didn't read any death threats.

Where do you want me mounted, trollmitter?
 
2014-05-12 05:27:53 PM  
We all know how easy it is to get autistic people worked up.
 
2014-05-12 05:50:38 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: *reads article*

Okay, social and political pressure is one thing, but I didn't read any death threats.

Where do you want me mounted, trollmitter?


That's the amazing thing about not having children vaccinated, the death threat is implied.
 
2014-05-12 06:04:40 PM  
Your blog sucks. Anyone got a legitimate link?
 
2014-05-12 06:41:45 PM  
Those that can make you believe absurdities can make you do atrocities.
 
2014-05-12 07:41:00 PM  

grokca: We all know how easy it is to get autistic people worked up.


STOP TOUCHING ME!
 
2014-05-12 07:50:51 PM  
Only 800,000 kids deaths per year if we don't vaccinate. Totally worth it. How soon people forget what it was like.
 
2014-05-12 07:54:17 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: Um, isn't issuing death threats against highschoolers a criminal offense, especially in the post-Columbine era?


Like I've said before.
Lock them up.
After you inoculate them.
 
2014-05-12 07:57:01 PM  
Anti-Vaxers hate their children and America. Not hyperbole.
 
2014-05-12 07:59:11 PM  
Isn't most anything an anti-vaccination group says technically a death threat?
 
2014-05-12 08:01:28 PM  
Bless their little hearts, but the little darlings were asking for it... spreading their new age science religion all willy nilly like that.

There's always consequences to that sort of behavior.
 
2014-05-12 08:04:12 PM  

fusillade762: Your blog sucks. Anyone got a legitimate link?


yeah... The "blog" is actually run by skeptic and cancer researcher dr. David Gorski.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Respectful_Insolence

There are links to the whole story in TFA
 
2014-05-12 08:10:57 PM  
Anti-vaxxers should be painlessly sterilized, and then released back into the wild.
 
2014-05-12 08:15:55 PM  

KarmicDisaster: Only 800,000 kids deaths per year if we don't vaccinate. Totally worth it. How soon people forget what it was like.


What about people who want the liberty to make the neighbor kids live in an iron lung?
 
2014-05-12 08:20:04 PM  
I have posted this before, but I will post this again. This is half a dozen miles from where I sit:
image1.findagrave.com
image2.findagrave.com
image2.findagrave.com
Three children in the same family, died the same day from diphtheria (the one that the DTP vaccine protects against). When the first child died, George Yaudes (the father) went off to buy a casket, but before he returned home he was told the other two had died.

Think he would have any sympathy for the anti-vaccination idiots?
 
2014-05-12 08:22:34 PM  

2wolves: Those that can make you believe absurdities can make you do atrocities.


-- Voltaire Rand Paul
 
2014-05-12 08:23:11 PM  
What the hell is the "vaccine industry"? Is it a subindustry of "Big Pharma" or is it some new and entirely independent nefarious agency we need to fear and add extra layers of tinfoil to our hats against?
 
2014-05-12 08:24:36 PM  
This comic came up on my news feed today. I made the mistake of looking at the comments. As it was on Alternet, there was a great deal of anti vax derp. This was a typical example:

Julie Voegtlin we were already immune naturally to mumps and measles- I had them as a kid no big deal. But now people will lose that natural immunity because vaccines have made the diseases go away for awhile. So they will come back in a much more devasting way. Also, the vaccines contain outrageous toxins that are injected into the bloodstreams of children.

www.alternet.org
 
2014-05-12 08:24:56 PM  

grokca: We all know how easy it is to get autistic people worked up.


Excellent work, Grokca.
 
2014-05-12 08:27:46 PM  
There were also numerous commenters who stated they were going to "unlike" Alternet as a result of this comic.
 
2014-05-12 08:43:59 PM  
All antivaxers are shills for the iron lung industry!  Everyone with half a brain knows that prevention is less profitable than treatment!
 
2014-05-12 08:44:10 PM  
Vaccines may not cause autism but sure seem to increase the crazy.
 
2014-05-12 08:48:17 PM  
I suffered through 1) that whole opening bit about what the blogger defines as 'taking care of business', 2) his insufferable aside about how totally current his blog is and 3) the rest of that article, only to reach the end and find out that subby's headline contains a bold lie?

Goddamnitsomuch
 
2014-05-12 08:58:27 PM  

Snarfangel: I have posted this before, but I will post this again. This is half a dozen miles from where I sit:
[image1.findagrave.com image 480x640]
[image2.findagrave.com image 480x640]
[image2.findagrave.com image 480x640]
Three children in the same family, died the same day from diphtheria (the one that the DTP vaccine protects against). When the first child died, George Yaudes (the father) went off to buy a casket, but before he returned home he was told the other two had died.

Think he would have any sympathy for the anti-vaccination idiots?


That is farking horrible. To have to live through that...I vaccinate my children, every shot every time. I don't know that I would survive inside if they both died -- especially the same day of the same disease.
And to answer your question I bet the old man would proclaim vaccinations a miracle from God and weep that it came too late for his family. Then hopefully biatchslap the idiot antivaxxers.
 
2014-05-12 09:00:37 PM  
I would have thought that was incredibly awesome in high school.

Also, now.
 
2014-05-12 09:02:23 PM  
Not Anti-Vaxxers, Anti-Healthers
 
2014-05-12 09:06:35 PM  
GIven the pair of recent studies that found a strong correlation between autism and antidepressants taken during pregnancy, I wouldn't be surprised if definitive proof of the link is discovered sometime within the next 5-10 years.

At that point, we'll be able to point to the anti-vaxxer women themselves as the likely cause of their kids' autism though I'm afraid the irony would be lost on them.
 
2014-05-12 09:09:22 PM  
Take the antivaxers and their kids and put them on an island, Molokai seems a good choice.
 
2014-05-12 09:12:50 PM  

Snarfangel: I have posted this before, but I will post this again. This is half a dozen miles from where I sit:
[image1.findagrave.com image 480x640]
[image2.findagrave.com image 480x640]
[image2.findagrave.com image 480x640]
Three children in the same family, died the same day from diphtheria (the one that the DTP vaccine protects against). When the first child died, George Yaudes (the father) went off to buy a casket, but before he returned home he was told the other two had died.

Think he would have any sympathy for the anti-vaccination idiots?


If one of my children was among the small fraction of people for whom the vaccine was ineffective, and they contacted and died from something due to unvaccinated kids, I would probably go all Dexter on the parents.
 
2014-05-12 09:24:12 PM  
I remember about 6 years ago, before antivaxing was cool, I met a woman whow wouldn't giver her kids the new chicken pox vaccine because she heard it had human fetal stem cells in it. I bet at least one of her kids is autistic now* and she is full on antivax.

*It couldn't possibly have been caused by the oil refinery they're downwind from.
 
2014-05-12 09:29:31 PM  
www.naturematters.info

They should make this into a movie instead.

(Teach the controversy)
 
2014-05-12 09:33:50 PM  

arcas: GIven the pair of recent studies that found a strong correlation between autism and antidepressants taken during pregnancy, I wouldn't be surprised if definitive proof of the link is discovered sometime within the next 5-10 years.

At that point, we'll be able to point to the anti-vaxxer women themselves as the likely cause of their kids' autism though I'm afraid the irony would be lost on them.


Since the anti-vax movement is rooted in some people's refusal to believe their defective genes are responsible for their child's autism, you're probably right.
 
2014-05-12 09:58:52 PM  

ThighsofGlory: arcas: GIven the pair of recent studies that found a strong correlation between autism and antidepressants taken during pregnancy, I wouldn't be surprised if definitive proof of the link is discovered sometime within the next 5-10 years.

At that point, we'll be able to point to the anti-vaxxer women themselves as the likely cause of their kids' autism though I'm afraid the irony would be lost on them.

Since the anti-vax movement is rooted in some people's refusal to believe their defective genes are responsible for their child's autism, you're probably right.


This
 
2014-05-12 10:10:46 PM  

KarmicDisaster: Only 800,000 kids deaths per year if we don't vaccinate. Totally worth it. How soon people forget what it was like.


Perhaps they could ask my GFs uncle. He is still suffering from the effects of childhood polio.
 
2014-05-12 10:39:13 PM  
I'm still waiting for the antivaxxers to explain why, since the deadly preservative Thimerosol has been out of vaccines since 2001, and vaccine rates have been dropping steadily since 2000, WHY are autism rates the highest they've ever been (80 out of 100) and climbing rapidly?

If it's all the vaccines, shouldn't autism rates be DECLINING?
 
2014-05-12 10:52:03 PM  

fusillade762: Your blog sucks. Anyone got a legitimate link?


Yeah, that thing's impossible to read. It's like they put a bunch of keyboards on the floor, brought in a chimp wearing pants, and dropped two weasels down there to fight it out.

Is there such a thing as a run-on paragraph? Or a run-on blog post, for that matter?
 
2014-05-12 11:07:46 PM  

hardinparamedic: fusillade762: Your blog sucks. Anyone got a legitimate link?

yeah... The "blog" is actually run by skeptic and cancer researcher dr. David Gorski.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Respectful_Insolence

There are links to the whole story in TFA


Well, he blogs like shiat. That is the most disjointed thing I've read in awhile. I don't care how much of a professional he may be, but he writes like old people fark.

Slow and sloppy.
 
2014-05-12 11:11:26 PM  

Mikey1969: hardinparamedic: fusillade762: Your blog sucks. Anyone got a legitimate link?

yeah... The "blog" is actually run by skeptic and cancer researcher dr. David Gorski.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Respectful_Insolence

There are links to the whole story in TFA

Well, he blogs like shiat. That is the most disjointed thing I've read in awhile. I don't care how much of a professional he may be, but he writes like old people fark.

Slow and sloppy.


Remind me to never ask you for copies of your porn.
 
2014-05-12 11:40:51 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: Mikey1969: hardinparamedic: fusillade762: Your blog sucks. Anyone got a legitimate link?

yeah... The "blog" is actually run by skeptic and cancer researcher dr. David Gorski.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Respectful_Insolence

There are links to the whole story in TFA

Well, he blogs like shiat. That is the most disjointed thing I've read in awhile. I don't care how much of a professional he may be, but he writes like old people fark.

Slow and sloppy.

Remind me to never ask you for copies of your porn.


They aren't old, just well seasoned... ,
 
2014-05-12 11:44:05 PM  

Mikey1969: hardinparamedic: fusillade762: Your blog sucks. Anyone got a legitimate link?

yeah... The "blog" is actually run by skeptic and cancer researcher dr. David Gorski.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Respectful_Insolence

There are links to the whole story in TFA

Well, he blogs like shiat. That is the most disjointed thing I've read in awhile. I don't care how much of a professional he may be, but he writes like old people fark.

Slow and sloppy.


i109.photobucket.com
 
2014-05-13 12:04:58 AM  

BMFPitt: Snarfangel: I have posted this before, but I will post this again. This is half a dozen miles from where I sit:
[image1.findagrave.com image 480x640]
[image2.findagrave.com image 480x640]
[image2.findagrave.com image 480x640]
Three children in the same family, died the same day from diphtheria (the one that the DTP vaccine protects against). When the first child died, George Yaudes (the father) went off to buy a casket, but before he returned home he was told the other two had died.

Think he would have any sympathy for the anti-vaccination idiots?

If one of my children was among the small fraction of people for whom the vaccine was ineffective, and they contacted and died from something due to unvaccinated kids, I would probably go all Dexter on the parents.


Why not blame the manufacturers for faulty vaccine?
 
2014-05-13 12:16:04 AM  

JoieD'Zen: BMFPitt: Snarfangel: I have posted this before, but I will post this again. This is half a dozen miles from where I sit:
[image1.findagrave.com image 480x640]
[image2.findagrave.com image 480x640]
[image2.findagrave.com image 480x640]
Three children in the same family, died the same day from diphtheria (the one that the DTP vaccine protects against). When the first child died, George Yaudes (the father) went off to buy a casket, but before he returned home he was told the other two had died.

Think he would have any sympathy for the anti-vaccination idiots?

If one of my children was among the small fraction of people for whom the vaccine was ineffective, and they contacted and died from something due to unvaccinated kids, I would probably go all Dexter on the parents.

Why not blame the manufacturers for faulty vaccine?




No vaccine is 100% effective. That's why so many of us are always harping on herd immunity in these threads.
 
2014-05-13 01:26:09 AM  
Even if I could ignore all the science proving that vaccines are not linked to autism, if the thought of your child possibly being different is more terrifying than the thought of thousands of little coffins full of children who died of preventable diseases, I think you are a terrible person who doesn't deserve to procreate.

/has an autistic child.
//he's awesome and I wouldn't change who he is for anything.
 
2014-05-13 01:50:27 AM  
Jenny McCarthy should be arrested on thousands of second-degree murder charges. Hey, if she can spout batshiat-crazy views, so can I.
 
2014-05-13 02:54:23 AM  

K3rmy: [www.naturematters.info image 298x420]

They should make this into a movie instead.

(Teach the controversy)


The author should be hanged over a slow fire and fed strips of her own flesh until she dies. She convinces people to let their children sicken, suffer brain damage and die and does it for money. She's no better than a hit man.
 
2014-05-13 04:07:17 AM  

Kouvre: Jenny McCarthy should be arrested on thousands of second-degree murder charges. Hey, if she can spout batshiat-crazy views, so can I.


You're right.  When are you going to start?
 
2014-05-13 05:59:15 AM  

DaMoopies: Not Anti-Vaxxers, Anti-Healthers


not Anti-Healthers... they're Pro-Disease
 
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