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2014-05-12 08:00:21 PM  

iheartscotch: grumpfuff: iheartscotch: I will admit; the imagery that describes satan physically is very similar to Pan. But, as ruler of the underworld (or in this case hell), Satan is Hades with Poseidon's trident standing in as a pitchfork. I agree; a lot of what is in the New Testament is copied from the old

No. Satan and Hades have little, if nothing to do with each other. The underworld in Greek/Roman mythology has nothing to do with the conception of hell in Christianity. Satan as he exists now is a fusion of "the satans" and Lucifer from the OT. The imagery comes directly from the idea of Pan, and why you think the trident comes from Poseidon is beyond me.

That's a very interesting point. I've always thought that the Christian idea of hell fed of the concept of Tartarus. I wonder where hell came from; if it didn't come from Tartarus.

Also, didn't Dante reference Tartarus in The Inferno? I'm thinking of the end of limbo and the end of the area for pagans who lived good lives, but, never converted to Christianity.

I'd never heard that satan was an amalgamation of Lucifer and the satans from the OT. Although, I could see it.

/ I said trident, because, tridents look like pitchforks.


How the hell did the Christian concept of hell feed the concept of Tartarus, when the concept of Tartarus predates Christianity(let alone the Christian idea of hell) by several centuries?

As to Dante, he referenced lots of historical and mythological figures. Because of early Christianity's fascination with all things Greek(especially Plato and Aristotle), the word Tartarus and the word hell became pretty much interchangable.
 
2014-05-12 08:01:02 PM  

Ed Grubermann: grumpfuff: Satan worship predates Hot Topic by centuries.

Just reporting my personal experience.


It was mostly just a general comment. Like I said, gotta put that degree to some use.
 
2014-05-12 08:01:15 PM  

mongbiohazard: I got bad news for you, that first one reproduces by spore and lives in a poisonous high pressure, high temperature environment. Your wing-wang would be crushed and burned off almost instantly if you whipped it out for it. They do have a fantastic gift for creating metal and ceramic alloys though.

Now that second one? Big 'OK creampuff. Lots of vibrating orifices, and very friendly.


Did you get left at home a lot sans transportation with a stocked kitchen during your formative years and your folks would come home and wonder how you managed to go through so much food?
 
2014-05-12 08:02:22 PM  

Ed Grubermann: iheartscotch: Perhaps you're right and there is no force for evil in the Universe. The point is; we don't know.

We don't know that there isn't a china teapot in orbit around Jupiter. But until we have some actual evidence to support its existence we can assume it doesn't exist. We'd be better served trying to figure out why some people are just broken and sadistic.


Russell's Teapot is not an argument. By cherry picking something people are predisposed to find ridiculous it undercuts any power it would have. No one has seen the interior of the Sun either, but it would be ridiculous to think it doesn't exist, even if we have no real concept of what it would be like---much much stranger to any of us than a ordinary teapot. The "reasonableness" of belief in any X depends on the already existing worldview. It doesn't demonstrate anything to anyone who doesn't already share that worldview.
 
2014-05-12 08:02:42 PM  

grumpfuff: genner: grumpfuff: genner: Except it's not a religious ceremony. No one organizing this actually believes in Satan.Their doing this solely to mock a certain group of people. In that respect it's exactly like BlackFace.

Wrong. LeVey and his followers may be atheist trolls, but there are several other forms of Satanism that are theistic.

True but this group is clearly with the trolls.

From the article:

The temple does not believe in a real devil

and

"At its best," the black Mass "is a declaration of personal independence from what some see as counterproductive cultural programming," said Satanic Temple spokesman Lucien Greaves. Greaves said black Masses began as a protest by people who felt oppressed by their local religious cultures.

It's clearly nothing but angry backlash against Christianity.
If that constitutes a religion Fark should be a tax free church.

WAAAAAHHHHH! PEOPLE WE TREATED LIKE shiat ARE FIGHTING BACK!!!!!


If that what their doing then they shouldn't  hide behind statements like this

"Our purpose is not to denigrate any religion or faith, which would be repugnant to our educational purposes," the Harvard student group said in a statement, "but instead to learn and experience the history of different cultural practices."

 Be honest with your hate.
 
2014-05-12 08:02:53 PM  

Mugato: He's actually right. The Satanic Verses by Anton LeVay has nothing to do with Satan. It's pretty much atheism that uses the name "Satan" for brand recognition.


Ummm... Salmon Rushdie wrote the Satanic Verses.

ecx.images-amazon.com

/maybe this is the new Helen Keller meme?
 
2014-05-12 08:04:20 PM  

Dr.Fey: Ummm... Salmon Rushdie wrote the Satanic Verses.

/maybe this is the new Helen Keller meme?


Nothing gets past you.
 
2014-05-12 08:04:44 PM  

mongbiohazard: Somacandra: mongbiohazard: And the organizers are also organizing a Shinto ceremony as well. Are you telling me that they're not actually Shinto? Zounds! What a mockery!

There's a modern tradition of "hosting" religious rituals with re-interpretations. My Catholic Church hosted a Seder when I was young. It was awful. And that was before I knew anything about Judaism.

I grew up with seders and I never cared for them either. Boring! Bunch of crap to memorize. Great meal though.


I always preferred the larch.
 
2014-05-12 08:05:39 PM  

genner: grumpfuff: genner: grumpfuff: genner: Except it's not a religious ceremony. No one organizing this actually believes in Satan.Their doing this solely to mock a certain group of people. In that respect it's exactly like BlackFace.

Wrong. LeVey and his followers may be atheist trolls, but there are several other forms of Satanism that are theistic.

True but this group is clearly with the trolls.

From the article:

The temple does not believe in a real devil

and

"At its best," the black Mass "is a declaration of personal independence from what some see as counterproductive cultural programming," said Satanic Temple spokesman Lucien Greaves. Greaves said black Masses began as a protest by people who felt oppressed by their local religious cultures.

It's clearly nothing but angry backlash against Christianity.
If that constitutes a religion Fark should be a tax free church.

WAAAAAHHHHH! PEOPLE WE TREATED LIKE shiat ARE FIGHTING BACK!!!!!

If that what their doing then they shouldn't  hide behind statements like this

"Our purpose is not to denigrate any religion or faith, which would be repugnant to our educational purposes," the Harvard student group said in a statement, "but instead to learn and experience the history of different cultural practices."

 Be honest with your hate.


The Harvard group is a group of students offering talks on several religions, not just LaVeyism. I would suspect that the person saying that is not actually a follower of LaVey.
 
2014-05-12 08:05:54 PM  
At first glance I thought they had a rational objection to the dark matter hypothesis. Silly me.
 
2014-05-12 08:06:54 PM  

genner: It's clearly nothing but angry backlash against Christianity.


And? This makes it just like blackface how? No one is under any obligation to pussyfoot around your beliefs. We're not living in a theocracy.
 
2014-05-12 08:11:34 PM  

Somacandra: Ed Grubermann: iheartscotch: Perhaps you're right and there is no force for evil in the Universe. The point is; we don't know.

We don't know that there isn't a china teapot in orbit around Jupiter. But until we have some actual evidence to support its existence we can assume it doesn't exist. We'd be better served trying to figure out why some people are just broken and sadistic.

Russell's Teapot is not an argument. By cherry picking something people are predisposed to find ridiculous it undercuts any power it would have. No one has seen the interior of the Sun either, but it would be ridiculous to think it doesn't exist, even if we have no real concept of what it would be like---much much stranger to any of us than a ordinary teapot. The "reasonableness" of belief in any X depends on the already existing worldview. It doesn't demonstrate anything to anyone who doesn't already share that worldview.


Save that we do know that the sun does, indeed, have an interior, and we have a lot of evidence telling us what it must be like and what's going on in there. We have zero credible evidence for the existence of "evil" as anything more than a label we put on behavior we find unacceptable or circumstances we find unpleasant, or natural disasters.
 
2014-05-12 08:14:38 PM  

iheartscotch: grumpfuff: iheartscotch: I will admit; the imagery that describes satan physically is very similar to Pan. But, as ruler of the underworld (or in this case hell), Satan is Hades with Poseidon's trident standing in as a pitchfork. I agree; a lot of what is in the New Testament is copied from the old

No. Satan and Hades have little, if nothing to do with each other. The underworld in Greek/Roman mythology has nothing to do with the conception of hell in Christianity. Satan as he exists now is a fusion of "the satans" and Lucifer from the OT. The imagery comes directly from the idea of Pan, and why you think the trident comes from Poseidon is beyond me.

That's a very interesting point. I've always thought that the Christian idea of hell fed of the concept of Tartarus. I wonder where hell came from; if it didn't come from Tartarus.

Also, didn't Dante reference Tartarus in The Inferno? I'm thinking of the end of limbo and the end of the area for pagans who lived good lives, but, never converted to Christianity.

I'd never heard that satan was an amalgamation of Lucifer and the satans from the OT. Although, I could see it.

/ I said trident, because, tridents look like pitchforks.


It's easy to conflate thousands of years of syncretism into a public image of puffs of smoke.  The OT had the concepts of Sheol or the Bosom of Abraham which built into the concept of a place of waiting, either in pain or in limbo. When Jesus did his thing on the cross, Christians felt that since he went down there and conquered it, they have no expectation of going there, unless they did something which prevents them automatic access to the heavenly abode.

A lot of what you perceive to be the beliefs of Christians pertaining to hell is born out of the minds of bored medievel monks absorbing the superstitions of the populations they converted into the fold to appease the masses as they adopted a new religion. Some of the time, the affectations of the old ways the people followed never got shed from the rituals. YMMV, as this is merely a super minority perspective and it has many other presentations in many different peoples views on this matter.
 
2014-05-12 08:15:18 PM  

grumpfuff: genner: grumpfuff: genner: grumpfuff: genner: Except it's not a religious ceremony. No one organizing this actually believes in Satan.Their doing this solely to mock a certain group of people. In that respect it's exactly like BlackFace.

Wrong. LeVey and his followers may be atheist trolls, but there are several other forms of Satanism that are theistic.

True but this group is clearly with the trolls.

From the article:

The temple does not believe in a real devil

and

"At its best," the black Mass "is a declaration of personal independence from what some see as counterproductive cultural programming," said Satanic Temple spokesman Lucien Greaves. Greaves said black Masses began as a protest by people who felt oppressed by their local religious cultures.

It's clearly nothing but angry backlash against Christianity.
If that constitutes a religion Fark should be a tax free church.

WAAAAAHHHHH! PEOPLE WE TREATED LIKE shiat ARE FIGHTING BACK!!!!!

If that what their doing then they shouldn't  hide behind statements like this

"Our purpose is not to denigrate any religion or faith, which would be repugnant to our educational purposes," the Harvard student group said in a statement, "but instead to learn and experience the history of different cultural practices."

 Be honest with your hate.

The Harvard group is a group of students offering talks on several religions, not just LaVeyism. I would suspect that the person saying that is not actually a follower of LaVey.


Even if he doesn't my original point still stands. This particular satanic temple isn't a religion. It's  a group of trolls mocking Christianity. If they want to study Satanism as a religion they should find Satanists of the theistic variety. Because they aren't doing this I'm lead to believe they're with the trolls and not simply studying them.

.
 
2014-05-12 08:16:25 PM  

Ed Grubermann: iheartscotch: Perhaps you're right and there is no force for evil in the Universe. The point is; we don't know.

We don't know that there isn't a china teapot in orbit around Jupiter. But until we have some actual evidence to support its existence we can assume it doesn't exist. We'd be better served trying to figure out why some people are just broken and sadistic.


have I said to you that when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth?

/ Also, circular logic works both ways.
 
2014-05-12 08:20:16 PM  

genner: Even if he doesn't my original point still stands. This particular satanic temple isn't a religion. It's  a group of trolls mocking Christianity.


And, your point? Are you suggesting no one should be allowed to criticize/mock Christianity?

genner: Because they aren't doing this I'm lead to believe they're with the trolls and not simply studying them.


Theistic Satanists tend not to be the attention whores that LeVeyists are, so they are harder to find. Also, they tend to practice alone, not in a group.
 
2014-05-12 08:20:51 PM  

iheartscotch: Ed Grubermann: iheartscotch: Perhaps you're right and there is no force for evil in the Universe. The point is; we don't know.

We don't know that there isn't a china teapot in orbit around Jupiter. But until we have some actual evidence to support its existence we can assume it doesn't exist. We'd be better served trying to figure out why some people are just broken and sadistic.

have I said to you that when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth?

/ Also, circular logic works both ways.


I don't see how that supports your case.
 
2014-05-12 08:21:19 PM  

grumpfuff: iheartscotch: I realize that modern black masses do not entail human sacrifice. Do you think that the black mass is a modern concept? It's not.

Provide citations showing human sacrifice at Black Masses, and I don't mean Vatican fear mongering, or STFU.


I'll just assume you don't want to hear about Friday October the 13th, 1307...

And I'll assume that you aware that the church had its grubby mitts all over most records before, say 1500?
 
2014-05-12 08:22:34 PM  

genner: Even if he doesn't my original point still stands. This particular satanic temple isn't a religion. It's  a group of trolls mocking Christianity. If they want to study Satanism as a religion they should find Satanists of the theistic variety. Because they aren't doing this I'm lead to believe they're with the trolls and not simply studying them.


Or they should get some good lawyers. Because Scientology isn't a religion any more than those self help guys on late night TV but they got some expensive attorneys and got made a religion for tax purposes. So the Satanists need to do what the Scientologists did get in with those people in Hollywood, you know those...people you know,,,,who have a lot of good lawyers among their ranks. Hey you said it, I didn't.
 
2014-05-12 08:24:53 PM  

WelldeadLink: A Black Mass, a Shinto tea ceremony, a Shaker exhibit and Buddhist meditation? Sounds like a party.


Or a long weekend in Vegas.
 
2014-05-12 08:25:23 PM  

mongbiohazard: Uh huh. I'll th rub the bible on my ass until I chafe and it still won't make fairy tales real. Demons are as fictional as flying carpets, Ents and Voltron.


Are you trying to say Voltron doesn't exist? You take that back!

mongbiohazard: There's tons of interesting things "out there".

But thinking that Optimus Prime is real, and actually fighting Decepticons on Cybertron is preposterous. Not only that, but exaggerating fairy tales some people wrote to the level of real life wonder only debases the wonder of the amazing shiat that really is in our universe. It also cripples our society's ability as a whole to understand them.


Everything the human mind has conceived is real.

www.badassoftheweek.com
 
2014-05-12 08:25:26 PM  

grumpfuff: iheartscotch: grumpfuff: iheartscotch: I will admit; the imagery that describes satan physically is very similar to Pan. But, as ruler of the underworld (or in this case hell), Satan is Hades with Poseidon's trident standing in as a pitchfork. I agree; a lot of what is in the New Testament is copied from the old

No. Satan and Hades have little, if nothing to do with each other. The underworld in Greek/Roman mythology has nothing to do with the conception of hell in Christianity. Satan as he exists now is a fusion of "the satans" and Lucifer from the OT. The imagery comes directly from the idea of Pan, and why you think the trident comes from Poseidon is beyond me.

That's a very interesting point. I've always thought that the Christian idea of hell fed of the concept of Tartarus. I wonder where hell came from; if it didn't come from Tartarus.

Also, didn't Dante reference Tartarus in The Inferno? I'm thinking of the end of limbo and the end of the area for pagans who lived good lives, but, never converted to Christianity.

I'd never heard that satan was an amalgamation of Lucifer and the satans from the OT. Although, I could see it.

/ I said trident, because, tridents look like pitchforks.

How the hell did the Christian concept of hell feed the concept of Tartarus, when the concept of Tartarus predates Christianity(let alone the Christian idea of hell) by several centuries?

As to Dante, he referenced lots of historical and mythological figures. Because of early Christianity's fascination with all things Greek(especially Plato and Aristotle), the word Tartarus and the word hell became pretty much interchangable.


Ah, I apologize, I worded that poorly. I ment that I felt that the Christian concept of hell was derived from the concept of Tartarus; not the other way around.
 
2014-05-12 08:26:52 PM  

iheartscotch: I'll just assume you don't want to hear about Friday October the 13th, 1307...


What does the call for arresting the Knights Templar have to do with black masses?

iheartscotch: And I'll assume that you aware that the church had its grubby mitts all over most records before, say 1500?


It's not the only source of stuff pre-1500. And even so, if the only source you have for human sacrifice is the Vatican, perhaps you should question the impartiality of your source.
 
2014-05-12 08:27:49 PM  

Bob Robert: grumpfuff: As to the State Department/CIA, I like my pot.

So do many state and cia employees


Don't they have random drug testing?
 
2014-05-12 08:27:49 PM  

Therion: Everything the human mind has conceived is real.


Amen!
 
2014-05-12 08:34:16 PM  

grumpfuff: genner: Even if he doesn't my original point still stands. This particular satanic temple isn't a religion. It's  a group of trolls mocking Christianity.

And, your point? Are you suggesting no one should be allowed to criticize/mock Christianity?

Sure they should. Just like the KKK is allowed to hold meetings on their own property,all people have a right to free speech no matter how offensive.

The problem is their doing it on Harvard grounds. The school has every right to shut them down and hasn't. If the same students decided they wanted to hold a KKK rally in a effort to study it's culture I doubt the result would have been the same.

genner: Because they aren't doing this I'm lead to believe they're with the trolls and not simply studying them.

Theistic Satanists tend not to be the attention whores that LeVeyists are, so they are harder to find. Also, they tend to practice alone, not in a group.


It may not be possible to find the real thing but it doesn't make studying a fake anymore useful. They may as well be studying the church of the FSM.
 
2014-05-12 08:34:22 PM  

mongbiohazard: SnakeLee: The internet always surprises me with how many people believe in literal demons.  It kind of sucks that they're not real because it would be cool to be boys with one; I bet they would have an interesting perspective on things if they existed

The widespread belief in these preposterous myths so far after we have discovered the atom and started to comprehend so much of how the universe works I find just incredibly farking depressing.


...What the fark do atoms have to do with religious beliefs?

/Or are you one of those simpletons who think scientific knowledge and religious belief are mutually exclusive and antagonistic?
//You're not helping, if you are.
 
2014-05-12 08:39:24 PM  

grumpfuff: iheartscotch: I'll just assume you don't want to hear about Friday October the 13th, 1307...

What does the call for arresting the Knights Templar have to do with black masses?

iheartscotch: And I'll assume that you aware that the church had its grubby mitts all over most records before, say 1500?

It's not the only source of stuff pre-1500. And even so, if the only source you have for human sacrifice is the Vatican, perhaps you should question the impartiality of your source.


One of the many charges leveled against the Templars was black masses. If I remember correctly; they also accused them of human sacrifice. But, I agree, most of those charges were likely false.

I agree, the church isn't the only source. But, most other European sources were preserved by the church at some point in their existence. Wouldn't that make them suspect as well?
 
2014-05-12 08:43:51 PM  
What?  So only the Yale secret society members get to bugger each other by the light of candles mounted on skulls stolen from Indian graves?
 
2014-05-12 08:59:44 PM  

LoneWolf343: mongbiohazard: SnakeLee: The internet always surprises me with how many people believe in literal demons.  It kind of sucks that they're not real because it would be cool to be boys with one; I bet they would have an interesting perspective on things if they existed

The widespread belief in these preposterous myths so far after we have discovered the atom and started to comprehend so much of how the universe works I find just incredibly farking depressing.

...What the fark do atoms have to do with religious beliefs?

/Or are you one of those simpletons who think scientific knowledge and religious belief are mutually exclusive and antagonistic?
//You're not helping, if you are.


For me it's a yardstick of our development as an intelligent species. We should be grown up enough by now to stop believing in Tooth Fairies.
 
2014-05-12 09:01:49 PM  
Hey, after the recent Supreme Court ruling the Catholics should be happy that there aren't demands for a nice black mass before the city council meeting or local baseball game.

Methinks thou dost protest too much.
 
2014-05-12 09:03:02 PM  

genner: grumpfuff: genner: Even if he doesn't my original point still stands. This particular satanic temple isn't a religion. It's  a group of trolls mocking Christianity.

And, your point? Are you suggesting no one should be allowed to criticize/mock Christianity?

Sure they should. Just like the KKK is allowed to hold meetings on their own property,all people have a right to free speech no matter how offensive.

The problem is their doing it on Harvard grounds. The school has every right to shut them down and hasn't. If the same students decided they wanted to hold a KKK rally in a effort to study it's culture I doubt the result would have been the same.


Lrn2Quote. I said nothing about the KKK. And it has been shown time and time again that the KKK has just as much a right to rally as anyone else. It may be disgusting, but that's free speech.

genner: It may not be possible to find the real thing but it doesn't make studying a fake anymore useful. They may as well be studying the church of the FSM.


We get it, you're upset people are mocking Christianity. Doesn't give you the right to shut them up though.
 
2014-05-12 09:04:06 PM  

Marcintosh: Mugato: Who spends the money to go to Harvard to major in "cultural studies"?

/and yeah, "Faust"? That's a joke, right?

It's no joke.  Those guys aren't there for the education, they're there to meet other rich and otherwise well connected scions of the 1%.
The girl behind me in NOT Harvard was very honest about it.  "My parents sent me here to get married to a doctor or a lawyer".  That's from my 1992 class, Intro to Illustration.  I'm sure she's done far better than I.

Think - George Bush, Is it more clear now?

not being snarky-apologies if it comes off that way


Yeah, that's called "going to college for your MRS degree". Has been called that for decades, even back before women started getting real degrees for their own sake. Now it's what the rest of us use to mock those stupid biatches.
 
2014-05-12 09:04:35 PM  

iheartscotch: grumpfuff: iheartscotch: I'll just assume you don't want to hear about Friday October the 13th, 1307...

What does the call for arresting the Knights Templar have to do with black masses?

iheartscotch: And I'll assume that you aware that the church had its grubby mitts all over most records before, say 1500?

It's not the only source of stuff pre-1500. And even so, if the only source you have for human sacrifice is the Vatican, perhaps you should question the impartiality of your source.

One of the many charges leveled against the Templars was black masses. If I remember correctly; they also accused them of human sacrifice. But, I agree, most of those charges were likely false.

I agree, the church isn't the only source. But, most other European sources were preserved by the church at some point in their existence. Wouldn't that make them suspect as well?


So...mention the date in a way that implies they may have been doing black masses, then immediately admit it's probably wrong when I ask about it? Do you enjoy JAQing off?

And a book preserved by the Vatican =/= a book written by the Vatican.
 
2014-05-12 09:26:32 PM  

Ed Grubermann: Somacandra: Ed Grubermann: iheartscotch: Perhaps you're right and there is no force for evil in the Universe. The point is; we don't know.

We don't know that there isn't a china teapot in orbit around Jupiter. But until we have some actual evidence to support its existence we can assume it doesn't exist. We'd be better served trying to figure out why some people are just broken and sadistic.

Russell's Teapot is not an argument. By cherry picking something people are predisposed to find ridiculous it undercuts any power it would have. No one has seen the interior of the Sun either, but it would be ridiculous to think it doesn't exist, even if we have no real concept of what it would be like---much much stranger to any of us than a ordinary teapot. The "reasonableness" of belief in any X depends on the already existing worldview. It doesn't demonstrate anything to anyone who doesn't already share that worldview.

Save that we do know that the sun does, indeed, have an interior, and we have a lot of evidence telling us what it must be like and what's going on in there. We have zero credible evidence for the existence of "evil" as anything more than a label we put on behavior we find unacceptable or circumstances we find unpleasant, or natural disasters.


Nice try, but Soma's arguing the line from that blog, which is essentially "it's true if I believe it to be true in my worldview; evidence and reason doesn't really matter."  There's a point in there about whether or not the analogy will convince a True Believer(TM) (it won't, I agree) but then the discussion immediately comes back to "prove that evil is an actual, real force."  I can use the same argument Soma is using in the exact opposite way to invalidate every Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini or mass murderer example he drags up.  For example: What if I think all kinds of behavior, including sadistic torture, are "reasonable" in my worldview?

If I did, there really wouldn't be any definition of the word evil I could agree on, let alone what constitutes a legitimate example.

Regardless, the blog he was citing was referring to metaphysics and god, not behavioral assessments like "evil" or "kind."  Thus completes the circle jerk and Russell's Teapot is still out there, mocking.
 
2014-05-12 10:03:58 PM  
Hopefully, they won't open a demon portal but...hey who knows....

Besides Catholics are the only group you can hate publicly and be super cool AND with the times!
 
2014-05-12 10:12:08 PM  

farkette716: Besides Catholics are the only group you can hate publicly and be super cool AND with the times!


Well sorry about your feelings but you're going to see a little of that when you're an entity that covers up mass child molestation in your ranks. People get cranky about that for some reason.
 
2014-05-12 10:12:46 PM  

farkette716: Hopefully, they won't open a demon portal but...hey who knows....

Besides Catholics are the only group you can hate publicly and be super cool AND with the times!


i.chzbgr.com


/getting so much use out of this today
 
2014-05-12 10:59:20 PM  

InterruptingQuirk: mongbiohazard: "Smurfs are real and we must live our lives according to their teachings! That's equally amazing!"

I think you need to unhinge your imagination and listen to what the girl has to say


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If there is other lifeforms out there, alive at a time when we might meet them, I hope they look like this, are real friendly and are not hostile versions of this:

[img.fark.net image 700x420]


I just smurfed

www.globalpost.com
 
2014-05-12 11:01:50 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: InterruptingQuirk: mongbiohazard: "Smurfs are real and we must live our lives according to their teachings! That's equally amazing!"

I think you need to unhinge your imagination and listen to what the girl has to say


[img.fark.net image 600x849]

If there is other lifeforms out there, alive at a time when we might meet them, I hope they look like this, are real friendly and are not hostile versions of this:

[img.fark.net image 700x420]

I just smurfed

[www.globalpost.com image 650x433]


Why is that picture titled "japan fukushima blue goo" when it's not about Japan or Fukushima, and it doesn't have any blue goo?
 
2014-05-12 11:04:00 PM  

iheartscotch: Weaver95: InterruptingQuirk: lockers: Our beliefs cannot stand up to mocking!

FTA ""Our purpose is not to denigrate any religion or faith, which would be repugnant to our educational purposes," the Harvard student group said in a statement, "but instead to learn and experience the history of different cultural practices.""

This is merely an educational exercise.

Hmm. Summoning demons for fun. Well that's a problem that kinda solves itself. Shine on you crazy diamonds.

Jesus, a black mass? Are they serious? They realize that desecrating the relics of a religion is a pretty big social faux pas, right?

Hopefully, they actually manage to summon Satan (or a Malacoda) and get pulled down to burn in hell for all eternity.

/ you don't joke around with demon summoning. There's too much weird shiat in the universe, for my taste at least, than to intentionally draw the evil eye.


You do realize that ghosts, monsters and demons don't exist, right? You DO realize that, right? You acknowledge that no one has ever died by saying Bloody Mary in the mirror... right?
 
2014-05-12 11:09:00 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: InterruptingQuirk: mongbiohazard: "Smurfs are real and we must live our lives according to their teachings! That's equally amazing!"

I think you need to unhinge your imagination and listen to what the girl has to say


[img.fark.net image 600x849]

If there is other lifeforms out there, alive at a time when we might meet them, I hope they look like this, are real friendly and are not hostile versions of this:

[img.fark.net image 700x420]

I just smurfed

[www.globalpost.com image 650x433]


s4.postimg.org
 
2014-05-12 11:12:07 PM  

grumpfuff: Smeggy Smurf: InterruptingQuirk: mongbiohazard: "Smurfs are real and we must live our lives according to their teachings! That's equally amazing!"

I think you need to unhinge your imagination and listen to what the girl has to say


[img.fark.net image 600x849]

If there is other lifeforms out there, alive at a time when we might meet them, I hope they look like this, are real friendly and are not hostile versions of this:

[img.fark.net image 700x420]

I just smurfed

[www.globalpost.com image 650x433]

Why is that picture titled "japan fukushima blue goo" when it's not about Japan or Fukushima, and it doesn't have any blue goo?


Shh, just let it happen
 
2014-05-12 11:20:16 PM  

Wingless: iheartscotch: Weaver95: InterruptingQuirk: lockers: Our beliefs cannot stand up to mocking!

FTA ""Our purpose is not to denigrate any religion or faith, which would be repugnant to our educational purposes," the Harvard student group said in a statement, "but instead to learn and experience the history of different cultural practices.""

This is merely an educational exercise.

Hmm. Summoning demons for fun. Well that's a problem that kinda solves itself. Shine on you crazy diamonds.

Jesus, a black mass? Are they serious? They realize that desecrating the relics of a religion is a pretty big social faux pas, right?

Hopefully, they actually manage to summon Satan (or a Malacoda) and get pulled down to burn in hell for all eternity.

/ you don't joke around with demon summoning. There's too much weird shiat in the universe, for my taste at least, than to intentionally draw the evil eye.

You do realize that ghosts, monsters and demons don't exist, right? You DO realize that, right? You acknowledge that no one has ever died by saying Bloody Mary in the mirror... right?



Forget it, he's rolling.

So how does one go about summoning a demon? I have some shiat I need done.
 
2014-05-12 11:28:52 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: InterruptingQuirk: mongbiohazard: "Smurfs are real and we must live our lives according to their teachings! That's equally amazing!"

I think you need to unhinge your imagination and listen to what the girl has to say


[img.fark.net image 600x849]

If there is other lifeforms out there, alive at a time when we might meet them, I hope they look like this, are real friendly and are not hostile versions of this:

[img.fark.net image 700x420]

I just smurfed


www.globalpost.com

s14.postimg.org
 
2014-05-12 11:29:46 PM  
A Harvard Divinity School professor who is also a Catholic priest said none of cultural club's other events include the "blaspheming of Catholic sacramental practice."

"What's next?" asked the Rev. Francis X. Clooney, in an op-ed in the Harvard Crimson.


Good God! They allow Catholics to be professors at Harvard now?! This country has gone straight to hell since they let the Germans and Irish in.

/Lighten up, Francis.
 
2014-05-12 11:50:07 PM  
They're worried about black masses? They're just being

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-05-13 12:26:38 AM  

Mugato: Marcintosh: Those guys aren't there for the education, they're there to meet other rich and otherwise well connected scions of the 1%.
The girl behind me in NOT Harvard was very honest about it.  "My parents sent me here to get married to a doctor or a lawyer"

Ugh. That's disgusting. Not surprising though.


It's nothing new.  Universities were begun around 1055 AD in Bologna.  The Merchant Princes sent their kids to learn a few things but mostly to meet other rich kids, and marry other rich kids.  Look at archival footage of college campus'.  In the 50's and 60's the kids were wearing jackets, blazers, button down shirts, ties, slacks and those damn loafers.  I vividly remember rich relatives kids going off to school where the clothing allowance rivaled the tuition.
The Greek System is a further hurdle designed to weed out "The Others".  Those that can afford the tuitions and clothes but not much else.  It's roughly the same now.  Priorities have shifted a bit but it's still a meat (yes) and greet market.
Haven't you ever heard a senior girl speak of "Ring by Spring"?  If those that are interested in that kind of thing aren't engaged by spring, it's off to grad school.

And you thought it was about the education didn't you . . .  The Tenured prof's are the only ones learning a damn thing and now they're Golden Chair is on the way out.

a codicil to all this - a great many students really do learn a lot in college.  If they don't have the connections though it's back to the parents sofa most of the time.  If you're headed off to college your work is to get connected up and networked in.  If you come from a family of clock punchers . . . you need to really take a cold hard look at career vs student loans - none of the "do what you heart tells you to" pfffft
 
2014-05-13 12:46:38 AM  
CTRL-F "NSFW"  No hits.

Disappointing.

Ah well, I suppose it's as good an excuse as any to use this one:

i75.photobucket.com

Ia! Ia! Cthulhu Ftaghn!
 
2014-05-13 02:58:12 AM  

Mouser: InterruptingQuirk: lockers: Our beliefs cannot stand up to mocking!

FTA ""Our purpose is not to denigrate any religion or faith, which would be repugnant to our educational purposes," the Harvard student group said in a statement, "but instead to learn and experience the history of different cultural practices.""

This is merely an educational exercise.

Perhaps they could hold a witch-burning, too.  You know, as an educational exercise.


Why?  Did she turn you into a newt?
 
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