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(Washington Free Beacon)   The U.S. Strategic Command will stage a large-scale bomber exercise this week just after the Russians staged nuclear war games last week. This is not a repeat of 1959 but some of the same planes are being used   (freebeacon.com) divider line 94
    More: Scary, U.S. Strategic Command, United States, Russians, strategic bomber, bomber exercise, Cyber Command, intelligence officials, Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel  
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2014-05-12 01:08:55 PM  
Big deal. This shiat isn't exactly new. We've always cared about readiness. The Russians haven't.
 
2014-05-12 01:27:48 PM  
♫ There was a turtle by the name of Bert
And Bert the Turtle was very alert
When danger threatened him he never got hurt
He knew just what to do

He'd duck and cover, duck and cover
He'd hide his head and tail and four little feet
He'd duck and cover! ♫
 
2014-05-12 01:44:44 PM  
Actually, Smitty the only Buffs still in service are  H models, first flown in 1961 and (though not as often as they did during the cold war) the USAF still conducts Minimum Interval Takeoff (MITO) drills.
 
2014-05-12 02:49:26 PM  
I have my duck and my cover ready.
 
2014-05-12 02:51:44 PM  
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2014-05-12 02:52:37 PM  
Pah,  Let's try that again.

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2014-05-12 02:52:48 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: Actually, Smitty the only Buffs still in service are  H models, first flown in 1961 and (though not as often as they did during the cold war) the USAF still conducts Minimum Interval Takeoff (MITO) drills.


www.airforce-technology.com
 
2014-05-12 02:53:04 PM  
I think things have gotten to the point where these drills are more warfare theater than actually practicing for battle.

Country 1: I hate what you are. Let me show you how I would treat you if we went to war. *holds wargames*

Country 2: Oh, yeah? Well if you invaded us, this is what we would do to you. *holds wargames*

Country 1: You think that's a wargame? Check this out: *holds wargames*
 
2014-05-12 02:53:43 PM  
♫ We'll... meet again....
Don't know where...  Don't know when...
 
2014-05-12 02:56:51 PM  
Would you like to play a game?
 
2014-05-12 02:57:03 PM  
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Unavailable for comment.
 
2014-05-12 02:58:33 PM  
Do we still have fueled bombers sitting around armed and crews ready to fly them, like in the good old days?
 
2014-05-12 02:58:38 PM  
Some of the planes are being used what, subby?
 
2014-05-12 02:58:42 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: ♫ There was a turtle by the name of Bert
And Bert the Turtle was very alert
When danger threatened him he never got hurt
He knew just what to do

He'd duck and cover, duck and cover
He'd hide his head and tail and four little feet
He'd duck and cover! ♫



I'm not sure why that film gets so much mockery.  ...of course, if you're very close to the hypocenter you'd be vaporized in any event, but there will be a lot of people who are far enough from the bomb to make survival possible, but close enough to make severe burns and flying-debris injury possible. If you're far enough from the hypocenter to have any chance at survival, then ducking & covering will reduce injury from flying debris (glass, wood, etc. -- just like in a tornado) and reduce exposure to the infrared radiation, minimizing burning of exposed skin.  It is sound advice (as is most of the rest of that film).
 
2014-05-12 02:59:40 PM  
Wasn't there a military training exercise during 9/11?
 
2014-05-12 03:00:37 PM  
We got our asses kicked in Afghanistan, but we think we har a chance against Russia? Pfft
 
2014-05-12 03:00:38 PM  

tiiger: Dancin_In_Anson: Actually, Smitty the only Buffs still in service are  H models, first flown in 1961 and (though not as often as they did during the cold war) the USAF still conducts Minimum Interval Takeoff (MITO) drills.

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The last production line of B-52's closed in 1958- My dad worked on their nav systems as one of his first jobs (out of HS mind you He may have retired as an engineer at NASA but he never went to college) .  He's now more than a decade retired and knocking on the door of being 80 years old
 
2014-05-12 03:01:23 PM  

Deep Contact: Wasn't there a military training exercise during 9/11?


And during the Boston Bombing and during the 7/7 attacks in the UK.

Kind of makes you wonder.
 
2014-05-12 03:01:47 PM  
God, I want to beat the shiat out of every journalist who writes a "The United States is holding war games in the wake of (provocative event)" story. Military exercises are planned out years in advance. They're holding Global Lightning 14 now because this is when Global Lightning 14 was scheduled after they did Global Lightning 12.
 
2014-05-12 03:04:00 PM  

TheYeti: Do we still have fueled bombers sitting around armed and crews ready to fly them, like in the good old days?


No. We do have ICBM nukes in silos and submarines that could be spun up and targeted very quickly, though, so don't get too comfortable.
 
2014-05-12 03:05:10 PM  

jshine: MaudlinMutantMollusk: ♫ There was a turtle by the name of Bert
And Bert the Turtle was very alert
When danger threatened him he never got hurt
He knew just what to do

He'd duck and cover, duck and cover
He'd hide his head and tail and four little feet
He'd duck and cover! ♫


I'm not sure why that film gets so much mockery.  ...of course, if you're very close to the hypocenter you'd be vaporized in any event, but there will be a lot of people who are far enough from the bomb to make survival possible, but close enough to make severe burns and flying-debris injury possible. If you're far enough from the hypocenter to have any chance at survival, then ducking & covering will reduce injury from flying debris (glass, wood, etc. -- just like in a tornado) and reduce exposure to the infrared radiation, minimizing burning of exposed skin.  It is sound advice (as is most of the rest of that film).


Considering they were drilling that into my head when our school was within a 5 mile radius of two Air Force bases (including a SAC base), I'm afraid I had a problem taking it very seriously.
 
2014-05-12 03:05:20 PM  
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2014-05-12 03:05:40 PM  

LazyMedia: God, I want to beat the shiat out of every journalist who writes a "The United States is holding war games in the wake of (provocative event)" story. Military exercises are planned out years in advance. They're holding Global Lightning 14 now because this is when Global Lightning 14 was scheduled after they did Global Lightning 12.


So they want to take on the russians but are still afraid of the number 13? Bloody hell!
 
2014-05-12 03:05:40 PM  
I had to do a double take subby, I read that as Stargate Command.
 
2014-05-12 03:06:29 PM  
Will the results be put on a floppy disc?
 
2014-05-12 03:07:08 PM  

jshine: MaudlinMutantMollusk: ♫ There was a turtle by the name of Bert
And Bert the Turtle was very alert
When danger threatened him he never got hurt
He knew just what to do

He'd duck and cover, duck and cover
He'd hide his head and tail and four little feet
He'd duck and cover! ♫


I'm not sure why that film gets so much mockery.  ...of course, if you're very close to the hypocenter you'd be vaporized in any event, but there will be a lot of people who are far enough from the bomb to make survival possible, but close enough to make severe burns and flying-debris injury possible. If you're far enough from the hypocenter to have any chance at survival, then ducking & covering will reduce injury from flying debris (glass, wood, etc. -- just like in a tornado) and reduce exposure to the infrared radiation, minimizing burning of exposed skin.  It is sound advice (as is most of the rest of that film).


just keep your iodine tablets handy.

Also, when do we admit we're i Cold War 2.0?
 
2014-05-12 03:07:27 PM  

cgraves67: I think things have gotten to the point where these drills are more warfare theater than actually practicing for battle.

Country 1: I hate what you are. Let me show you how I would treat you if we went to war. *holds wargames*

Country 2: Oh, yeah? Well if you invaded us, this is what we would do to you. *holds wargames*

Country 1: You think that's a wargame? Check this out: *holds wargames*


I think it's pretty obvious that that is the case.
Every time a country performs "missile tests", or "troop deployment test", or "Navy excersises", etc, etc...  They are doing it to wag their dicks for the whole world.  Anything that is actually important, like, actually practicing for such meneuvers, is held secret.  And for good reason.  Do you really want the enemy to know exactly what your methods are for deployment of ANY kind?!

So, yeah, if they are performing tests in front of everyone, it is nothing more than a demonstration for the world.  I love it when a country, like say, Russia, is in the middle of a heated situation.  And it just so happens that they had troop excersises, very public troop excersises, planned "years ago".  And they just happen to be occuring right NOW.  What a coincidence!
 
2014-05-12 03:07:32 PM  

uncleacid: Will the results be put on a floppy disc?


No, punch cards.
 
2014-05-12 03:08:31 PM  
Can we call it Operation Able Archer? For old time sakes?
 
2014-05-12 03:08:46 PM  

teenage mutant ninja rapist: LazyMedia: God, I want to beat the shiat out of every journalist who writes a "The United States is holding war games in the wake of (provocative event)" story. Military exercises are planned out years in advance. They're holding Global Lightning 14 now because this is when Global Lightning 14 was scheduled after they did Global Lightning 12.

So they want to take on the russians but are still afraid of the number 13? Bloody hell!


They did Global Thunder instead last year, I assume because of sequestration. Or maybe Global Lightning is always an every other year deal.
 
2014-05-12 03:08:48 PM  
Let us see if they accidentaly drop a nuke again
 
2014-05-12 03:11:29 PM  
Something tells me Putin was angling for Romney in 2012.
 
2014-05-12 03:13:44 PM  

Nemo's Brother: Deep Contact: Wasn't there a military training exercise during 9/11?

And during the Boston Bombing and during the 7/7 attacks in the UK.

Kind of makes you wonder.


Wondering is the first step to finding out!
 
2014-05-12 03:14:54 PM  

durbnpoisn: Anything that is actually important, like, actually practicing for such meneuvers, is held secret.


You don't have any idea what you're talking about. Every military in the world does maneuvers and war games and exercises constantly, and nearly all of the ones that NATO countries do are publicized. Heck, I worked a Special Forces exercise in Poland and SOCEUR had a website dedicated to it. I'll leave it to your imagination as to what sort of "maneuvers" go on at a special forces exercise, but it definitely was focused on practicing their jobs.

What actually happens is that exercises occur all the time, and the ones that happen after some big international conflict get played up in the media, and are ascribed meaning and motivation that doesn't exist.
 
2014-05-12 03:15:11 PM  
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/got nothin'
 
2014-05-12 03:15:27 PM  

teenage mutant ninja rapist: LazyMedia: God, I want to beat the shiat out of every journalist who writes a "The United States is holding war games in the wake of (provocative event)" story. Military exercises are planned out years in advance. They're holding Global Lightning 14 now because this is when Global Lightning 14 was scheduled after they did Global Lightning 12.

So they want to take on the russians but are still afraid of the number 13? Bloody hell!


/not sure if serious
it is referring to the 2 year cycle involved in planning.  GL12 took place in 2012, this being 2014 will mark GL14, and the next one would typically be GL16 if all goes well and Ivan doesn't get an itchy trigger finger.
 
2014-05-12 03:15:38 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: jshine: MaudlinMutantMollusk: ♫ There was a turtle by the name of Bert
And Bert the Turtle was very alert
When danger threatened him he never got hurt
He knew just what to do

He'd duck and cover, duck and cover
He'd hide his head and tail and four little feet
He'd duck and cover! ♫


I'm not sure why that film gets so much mockery.  ...of course, if you're very close to the hypocenter you'd be vaporized in any event, but there will be a lot of people who are far enough from the bomb to make survival possible, but close enough to make severe burns and flying-debris injury possible. If you're far enough from the hypocenter to have any chance at survival, then ducking & covering will reduce injury from flying debris (glass, wood, etc. -- just like in a tornado) and reduce exposure to the infrared radiation, minimizing burning of exposed skin.  It is sound advice (as is most of the rest of that film).

Considering they were drilling that into my head when our school was within a 5 mile radius of two Air Force bases (including a SAC base), I'm afraid I had a problem taking it very seriously.



5 miles?  Of course a lot depends on the power and accuracy of the bomb, but at Hiroshima there were survivors as close as 560 feet from ground-zero (and the guy in question died in 1982 at the age of 84).

/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_bombings_of_Hiroshima_and_Nagasak i #Events_on_the_ground
 
2014-05-12 03:17:05 PM  
Wow, some good old Global Thermonuclear War fearmongering. Makes one wistful for the old days.
 
2014-05-12 03:17:38 PM  
I got some piss in a jar if any spark plugs need it.
 
2014-05-12 03:19:36 PM  

ColSanders: Pah,  Let's try that again.


Only let's try it harder this time!

On the topic, though, it's not even "going through motions", I don't even know what to call it.

Meanwhile, in Ukraine the situation is not improving. At all.
 
2014-05-12 03:22:03 PM  
 
2014-05-12 03:23:44 PM  
Is it just a coincidence that we are returning to Cold War scenarios at the same time as the Cosmos reboot?

Yes. Yes it is.
 
2014-05-12 03:26:40 PM  
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2014-05-12 03:28:22 PM  
right man for the job

cltampa.com
 
2014-05-12 03:29:03 PM  
 
2014-05-12 03:29:15 PM  

jshine: 5 miles?  Of course a lot depends on the power and accuracy of the bomb, but at Hiroshima there were survivors as close as 560 feet from ground-zero (and the guy in question died in 1982 at the age of 84).

/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_bombings_of_Hiroshima_and_Nagasak i #Events_on_the_ground


I think the yield had increased a tad since Hiroshima

/but if you want to believe it would be survivable, that's fine. I certainly can't prove you wrong
//I'm not sure I'd want to at that range, personally
 
2014-05-12 03:31:05 PM  
If everyone had nuclear weapons, including Ukraine, this wouldnt be a problem.
 
2014-05-12 03:31:13 PM  
ChipNASA:
2013 B-52 MITO drill from Minot AFB....."Why Not, Minot"

Freezin' the reason.
 
2014-05-12 03:32:46 PM  

vygramul: Big deal. This shiat isn't exactly new. We've always cared about readiness. The Russians haven't.


And all our planes actually still fly.


/BUFF
 
2014-05-12 03:39:33 PM  
Let's put the MST3K guys on it...

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