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2014-05-12 12:24:37 PM
Gods, these kids are fracking animals.  If ever a lawsuit proved that a will was made in sound mind, just the existence of this one and the one his ex-wife filed should.

Truly, truly disgusting behavior.
 
2014-05-12 01:53:22 PM

SphericalTime: Gods, these kids are fracking animals.  If ever a lawsuit proved that a will was made in sound mind, just the existence of this one and the one his ex-wife filed should.

Truly, truly disgusting behavior.


While it certainly seems tacky from a casual reader's perception, I think the step-son, who was handling Mickey Rooney's finances late in his life,  was the main reason that his estate dwindled to $18,000.  I have a feeling he was pretty loosey goosey and self-serving with the whole Power of Attorney thing.

Estates bring the worst out in families.
 
2014-05-12 02:03:47 PM

brap: Estates bring the worst out in families.


Agreed.  Things get really nasty at probate time.
 
2014-05-12 02:08:55 PM

brap: SphericalTime: Gods, these kids are fracking animals.  If ever a lawsuit proved that a will was made in sound mind, just the existence of this one and the one his ex-wife filed should.

Truly, truly disgusting behavior.

While it certainly seems tacky from a casual reader's perception, I think the step-son, who was handling Mickey Rooney's finances late in his life,  was the main reason that his estate dwindled to $18,000.  I have a feeling he was pretty loosey goosey and self-serving with the whole Power of Attorney thing.

Estates bring the worst out in families.


The article that I read when this first broke said it was another stepson that took his money and this stepson hadn't gotten a penny, he'd just cared for him after he was basically destitute.
 
2014-05-12 02:14:10 PM
SphericalTime:The article that I read when this first broke said it was another stepson that took his money and this stepson hadn't gotten a penny, he'd just cared for him after he was basically destitute.

That may well be the case.  If so, I apologize to Mickey Rooney's goodhearted stepson.

In the spirit of you father, I will find a barn, put on a show for you, and save the ranch.
 
2014-05-12 02:21:59 PM

brap: SphericalTime:The article that I read when this first broke said it was another stepson that took his money and this stepson hadn't gotten a penny, he'd just cared for him after he was basically destitute.

That may well be the case.  If so, I apologize to Mickey Rooney's goodhearted stepson.

In the spirit of you father, I will find a barn, put on a show for you, and save the ranch.


It was Mark Aber's brother, Christopher, that was convicted of elder abuse for siphoning off a large part of Mickey Rooney's fortune. Christopher's wife was involved too.
 
2014-05-12 02:30:33 PM
Beyond any of this...

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Damn that's scary
 
2014-05-12 03:44:28 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: brap: Estates bring the worst out in families.

Agreed.  Things get really nasty at probate time.


Things get easy if you're an only child.  Sometimes you just have to kill a few siblings first
 
2014-05-12 03:47:01 PM
jeesh let the man rot, for chrissakes.
 
2014-05-12 03:50:42 PM

SphericalTime: Gods, these kids are fracking animals.


Well duh! Mickey was a total batsh*t for decades. I mean, weapons-grade Gary Busey levels of WOOOOOO!. Arthur Rankin used to talk about the nightmare he had in trying to get Mickey to do his lines for the holiday specials because the guy was such a major flake.

That kind of DNA is going to be noticeable for generations to come.
 
2014-05-12 03:58:50 PM

SphericalTime: Gods, these kids are fracking animals.  If ever a lawsuit proved that a will was made in sound mind, just the existence of this one and the one his ex-wife filed should.

Truly, truly disgusting behavior.


Also, when he died his widow tried to start a fight over where he should be buried.

Poor Mickey :-(
 
2014-05-12 04:00:46 PM
I know that the bulk of his acting was a very long time ago, but wouldn't he (and his estate) still have some residuals coming in?  I mean, you're not likely to buy a new mansion with the Black Stallion Returns money, but it shouldn't be zero.
 
2014-05-12 04:03:45 PM
Mr Estate Executor, I must protest!
 
2014-05-12 04:06:13 PM
Jiminy Jillickers!
 
2014-05-12 04:07:52 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: brap: Estates bring the worst out in families.

Agreed.  Things get really nasty at probate time.


So glad I'm an only child.

My mom passed away 11 years ago and my parents were divorced and my moms 9 brothers and sisters tried to bully me into all kinds of things, but I used one of my mom's sister's husband and my father to shield myself from much of it.

Then my father passed away last January and he had already paid for his services and all I had to do was pick out two songs.  No probate because before he passed he had already transferred everything into my name and he didn't have a whole lot anyway.  Two beat up cars and a house he owed $60K on but a nice Postal Life insurance.  I was very loved by my parents.

But when my grandparent passed away a year after my mom, oh boy.  Vultures with my mom dead and one of my uncles' also dead there were 8 vultures swirling around.  It made me sick and I haven't been to a family event since then and never will.

I've gotten my father's house fixed up finally and I"m putting it on the market next month.  I'll never have a reason to go back to that shiatty little town again.

On a Csb instead of ssb, my wife's mother passed away and her and my brother in-law were patron saints to each other.  Never experienced what normal people should act like after a death.

I picked a good family to marry into and all along I thought mine was the good one.
 
2014-05-12 04:10:57 PM
How many times have we seen this?..someone gets old and needs daily care, but most or all of the children can't or won't help, so that person puts their caretaker in the will.  Once that person dies the kids suddenly come out of woodwork.  I'm sorry but if you couldn't be bothered taking care of your dad when he needed you most, get lost.
 
2014-05-12 04:17:13 PM
That's $18,000 before funeral expenses.

Expecting Ch-Ching and getting a Ch-Chunk
 
2014-05-12 04:19:51 PM

Eirik: I know that the bulk of his acting was a very long time ago, but wouldn't he (and his estate) still have some residuals coming in?  I mean, you're not likely to buy a new mansion with the Black Stallion Returns money, but it shouldn't be zero.


His stepson, Christopher Aber, had power of attorney over Mickey Rooney's finances at one point. Christopher & his wife siphoned away a large part of Mr Rooney's money & were subsequently sued by Mr Rooney for elder abuse (back in 2010-2011 IIRC). Mr Rooney won a judgement of $2.8 million.

However, Christopher Aber and his wife then declared declared bankruptcy, so Mr Rooney didn't receive any of the judgement from them. The couple figured their homeowner's insurance would pay out the money, but the insurance company refused since the elder abuses were intentional.


It was also alleged that the couple deprived Mr Rooney of food and medications and tried to prevent him from leaving his own home.
 
2014-05-12 04:24:25 PM
brap:

Estates bring the worst out in families.

My parents independently made me executor of their respective estates. I have 3 siblings. My plan: toss everything in a fire. If you can get it out, it's yours.
 
2014-05-12 04:26:04 PM
I didn't know he had any kids, much less eight of the little assholes, until it came out that they're a pack of greedy farks. This is their legacy.
 
2014-05-12 04:26:56 PM

Smeggy Smurf: Benevolent Misanthrope: brap: Estates bring the worst out in families.

Agreed.  Things get really nasty at probate time.

Things get easy if you're an only child.  Sometimes you just have to kill a few siblings first


Meh. My mom's remarried to a millionaire. She was not too bad off she she remarried. But she's solid now. They both live in the house my dad built for his retirement and he pays her rent because he has his own place a few miles away. They both are happy, which is the only important thing to me. I've already told my sibs and his kids when something happens, don't come looking for me about money stuff. I'm going to the funeral and I will cry and then I'm leaving town and going home. I'm not going to play money games. So both sides knew up front at the time of marriage that I was wishing them both the best, and that was all I wanted.
I think they all took a bit of a queue from what I said and have gotten to know each other and really feel like a family now, but I hate to think of what happens when the gold spills on the floor.
 
2014-05-12 04:31:04 PM
He was a little short.
 
2014-05-12 04:37:15 PM

Smeggy Smurf: Benevolent Misanthrope: brap: Estates bring the worst out in families.

Agreed.  Things get really nasty at probate time.

Things get easy if you're an only child.  Sometimes you just have to kill a few siblings first


** Takes notes **
 
2014-05-12 04:43:04 PM
And that's why I have no issues with an estate tax. It's not your free prize for grandpa dying. It was his money and since he can't take it with him, it's his no more.
 
2014-05-12 04:46:58 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: I didn't know he had any kids, much less eight of the little assholes, until it came out that they're a pack of greedy farks. This is their legacy.


IIRC he was the Elizabeth Taylor of men.  Married 8 times, you're going to have SOME kids, given 'the pill' wasn't available until wife number 5 who was already in place for 2 years.
 
2014-05-12 04:49:54 PM
No problems a flame thrower won't fix.
 
2014-05-12 05:35:23 PM

verbaltoxin: And that's why I have no issues with an estate tax. It's not your free prize for grandpa dying. It was his money and since he can't take it with him, it's his no more.


Of course, Grandpa already paid taxes on that money.  If he wanted to donate it to the government, he could have sent a check to the address listed here  http://www.fms.treas.gov/faq/moretopics_gifts.html.
 
2014-05-12 05:47:22 PM

verbaltoxin: And that's why I have no issues with an estate tax. It's not your free prize for grandpa dying. It was his money and since he can't take it with him, it's his no more.


While I understand the underlying sentiment, this is stupid.  The government already got their pound of flesh for that money, they don't deserve any more.
 
2014-05-12 06:10:33 PM

Eirik: I know that the bulk of his acting was a very long time ago, but wouldn't he (and his estate) still have some residuals coming in?  I mean, you're not likely to buy a new mansion with the Black Stallion Returns money, but it shouldn't be zero.


I don't think you got any residuals for movies back then.
 
2014-05-12 06:15:56 PM

mjbok: verbaltoxin: And that's why I have no issues with an estate tax. It's not your free prize for grandpa dying. It was his money and since he can't take it with him, it's his no more.

While I understand the underlying sentiment, this is stupid.  The government already got their pound of flesh for that money, they don't deserve any more.


The estate tax isn't about the government getting a percentage of money earned, it's about limiting the establishment of a modern nobility based on inheriting ridiculous sums of money.
 
2014-05-12 06:19:26 PM

mcreadyblue: Eirik: I know that the bulk of his acting was a very long time ago, but wouldn't he (and his estate) still have some residuals coming in?  I mean, you're not likely to buy a new mansion with the Black Stallion Returns money, but it shouldn't be zero.

I don't think you got any residuals for movies back then.


I have no idea how it works, but once there's a new media format (VHS, then DVD, then Blu-Ray) could it be possible that he is (even dead) still making money?  Like its been mentioned- its not like he was poor.  Its more like money was coming in and the beggars and hangers-on were playing loosey goosey with it.
 
2014-05-12 06:31:06 PM

downstairs: mcreadyblue: Eirik: I know that the bulk of his acting was a very long time ago, but wouldn't he (and his estate) still have some residuals coming in?  I mean, you're not likely to buy a new mansion with the Black Stallion Returns money, but it shouldn't be zero.

I don't think you got any residuals for movies back then.

I have no idea how it works, but once there's a new media format (VHS, then DVD, then Blu-Ray) could it be possible that he is (even dead) still making money?  Like its been mentioned- its not like he was poor.  Its more like money was coming in and the beggars and hangers-on were playing loosey goosey with it.


I've seen some tiny residual checks. I think they become smaller and smaller as time goes by. In fact, there is a bar in LA that will give you a drink if you turn over a residual check for under $1.

I think the only future revenue stream would be licensing his image for commercials like Fred Astaire's family did.
 
2014-05-12 06:46:01 PM

mcreadyblue: downstairs: mcreadyblue: Eirik: I know that the bulk of his acting was a very long time ago, but wouldn't he (and his estate) still have some residuals coming in?  I mean, you're not likely to buy a new mansion with the Black Stallion Returns money, but it shouldn't be zero.

I don't think you got any residuals for movies back then.

I have no idea how it works, but once there's a new media format (VHS, then DVD, then Blu-Ray) could it be possible that he is (even dead) still making money?  Like its been mentioned- its not like he was poor.  Its more like money was coming in and the beggars and hangers-on were playing loosey goosey with it.

I've seen some tiny residual checks. I think they become smaller and smaller as time goes by. In fact, there is a bar in LA that will give you a drink if you turn over a residual check for under $1.

I think the only future revenue stream would be licensing his image for commercials like Fred Astaire's family did.


Oh, I have to.  But Mickey was pretty famous and did a lot of work for a very long time.

CSB:

I had to join ASCAP because a movie company was considering a song of mine for a trailer.  They never used it.  I never really sold many CDs- mostly gave them away for publicity.

But it was funny... every quarter I'd get a lengthy report from ASCAP as to what my royalties were from radio play/jukebox play/etc.  Like 5-10 pages.

It was always $0.00

They literally were wasting the money on the stamp, ink, and paper to tell me I'm not famous.
 
2014-05-12 06:48:05 PM

downstairs: mcreadyblue: downstairs: mcreadyblue: Eirik: I know that the bulk of his acting was a very long time ago, but wouldn't he (and his estate) still have some residuals coming in?  I mean, you're not likely to buy a new mansion with the Black Stallion Returns money, but it shouldn't be zero.

I don't think you got any residuals for movies back then.

I have no idea how it works, but once there's a new media format (VHS, then DVD, then Blu-Ray) could it be possible that he is (even dead) still making money?  Like its been mentioned- its not like he was poor.  Its more like money was coming in and the beggars and hangers-on were playing loosey goosey with it.

I've seen some tiny residual checks. I think they become smaller and smaller as time goes by. In fact, there is a bar in LA that will give you a drink if you turn over a residual check for under $1.

I think the only future revenue stream would be licensing his image for commercials like Fred Astaire's family did.

Oh, I have to.  But Mickey was pretty famous and did a lot of work for a very long time.

CSB:

I had to join ASCAP because a movie company was considering a song of mine for a trailer.  They never used it.  I never really sold many CDs- mostly gave them away for publicity.

But it was funny... every quarter I'd get a lengthy report from ASCAP as to what my royalties were from radio play/jukebox play/etc.  Like 5-10 pages.

It was always $0.00

They literally were wasting the money on the stamp, ink, and paper to tell me I'm not famous.


Sheesh, what's my problem?  "too"

/Sleep deprived lately
 
2014-05-12 07:21:05 PM

yukichigai: The estate tax isn't about the government getting a percentage of money earned, it's about limiting the establishment of a modern nobility based on inheriting ridiculous sums of money.


That is complete bullshiat, it's about the government taking something they have absolutely no right to.  That money has been taxed.  If I earned it I have the right to give it to whomever I please.
 
2014-05-12 08:38:12 PM

yukichigai: The estate tax isn't about the government getting a percentage of money earned, it's about limiting the establishment of a modern nobility based on inheriting ridiculous sums of money.



Seems to be working out right fine, too.
 
2014-05-12 08:54:51 PM

mjbok: yukichigai: The estate tax isn't about the government getting a percentage of money earned, it's about limiting the establishment of a modern nobility based on inheriting ridiculous sums of money.

That is complete bullshiat, it's about the government taking something they have absolutely no right to.  That money has been taxed.  If I earned it I have the right to give it to whomever I please.


dakiniland.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-05-12 09:02:01 PM
dieing broke without being in debt, is called winning at life
 
rka
2014-05-12 09:25:48 PM
I'm asking you for help and maybe I can sue you for punitive damages you're giving me here.

You want to sue me?
Yeah
Why me?
Sue everybody!
 
2014-05-12 09:32:50 PM

mjbok: yukichigai: The estate tax isn't about the government getting a percentage of money earned, it's about limiting the establishment of a modern nobility based on inheriting ridiculous sums of money.

That is complete bullshiat, it's about the government taking something they have absolutely no right to.  That money has been taxed.  If I earned it I have the right to give it to whomever I please.

spot on, mjbok.  plus the estate tax forces many small businesses, including family farms, to be sold.  Several heirs, can't pony up the cash for the estate tax, the result the family farm is sold to developers
 
2014-05-12 10:38:28 PM
Class envy is an ugly thing.  If estates should be taxed, then all estates should be taxed.

//No estates should be taxed.
 
2014-05-12 11:27:50 PM
For gods' sake, people, this is why you should put everything in a living trust with a pour-over will. No probate, nothing your "heirs" can challenge, it becomes the trustee's job when you die to give the estate to the beneficiaries: The end. No quarreling over the will, no fights over where you get buried, none of this nonsense.

My boss turns these things over in a couple days if the thing isn't complicated (although it's longer and more expensive if you did it yourself and screwed it up as most people do). But you can disinherit whoever you choose, leave the whole thing to your best friend's gardener if you want and get buried at sea if that's what you desire.

Don't end up with the whole rotten brood skirmishing over your paltry $18,000 estate.
 
2014-05-12 11:42:28 PM

verbaltoxin: And that's why I have no issues with an estate tax. It's not your free prize for grandpa dying. It was his money and since he can't take it with him, it's his no more.


If it's his money, doesn't he have the right to designate who will get it when he dies? How is the estate tax not an infringement of that right? And furthermore, you imply that it's awful when a private citizen gets a "free prize" for grandpa dying but it's just dandy when the government gets a piece of that "prize". Why? Why is the government MORE ENTITLED MORALLY to a piece of someone's wealth when they die than the person or persons who were LEGALLY DESIGNATED to be that person's heir(s)?
 
2014-05-13 05:56:30 AM

B.L.Z. Bub: verbaltoxin: And that's why I have no issues with an estate tax. It's not your free prize for grandpa dying. It was his money and since he can't take it with him, it's his no more.

If it's his money, doesn't he have the right to designate who will get it when he dies? How is the estate tax not an infringement of that right? And furthermore, you imply that it's awful when a private citizen gets a "free prize" for grandpa dying but it's just dandy when the government gets a piece of that "prize". Why? Why is the government MORE ENTITLED MORALLY to a piece of someone's wealth when they die than the person or persons who were LEGALLY DESIGNATED to be that person's heir(s)?


BECAUSE ALL CAPS
 
2014-05-13 08:56:07 AM

Gyrfalcon: For gods' sake, people, this is why you should put everything in a living trust with a pour-over will. No probate, nothing your "heirs" can challenge, it becomes the trustee's job when you die to give the estate to the beneficiaries: The end. No quarreling over the will, no fights over where you get buried, none of this nonsense.

My boss turns these things over in a couple days if the thing isn't complicated (although it's longer and more expensive if you did it yourself and screwed it up as most people do). But you can disinherit whoever you choose, leave the whole thing to your best friend's gardener if you want and get buried at sea if that's what you desire.

Don't end up with the whole rotten brood skirmishing over your paltry $18,000 estate.


Is that option available in all 50 states? Just wondering
 
2014-05-13 09:36:06 AM

El Supe: mjbok: yukichigai: The estate tax isn't about the government getting a percentage of money earned, it's about limiting the establishment of a modern nobility based on inheriting ridiculous sums of money.

That is complete bullshiat, it's about the government taking something they have absolutely no right to.  That money has been taxed.  If I earned it I have the right to give it to whomever I please.
spot on, mjbok.  plus the estate tax forces many small businesses, including family farms, to be sold.  Several heirs, can't pony up the cash for the estate tax, the result the family farm is sold to developers


Not that tired piece of bullshiat again.

Estate taxes don't kick in (at the Federal level, YMMV depending on the state) until the $5 million level. Note: $5 million. If your family farm is worth $5 or $10 million, and you're not clearing enough even in good years to cover the inevitable transfer of your wealth, get out of business.
 
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