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(Russia Today)   Mexico deputizes and arms thousands of vigilantes to fight drug cartels in rural areas of the country, says only problem now is dealing with the vigilantes who are killing other vigilantes with their new government-issued weapons (pics)   (rt.com) divider line 54
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2014-05-12 08:55:14 AM
So call the Coast Guard.
 
2014-05-12 09:11:41 AM
Does it end with the guerrillas simply freezing to death in winter?
 
2014-05-12 11:05:30 AM
So it is the wild west with modern weapons, sounds like a good plan.
 
2014-05-12 11:06:07 AM

mutterfark: Does it end with the guerrillas simply freezing to death in winter?


Came for frozen gorillas, leaving more satisfied than expected.
 
2014-05-12 11:08:56 AM

groppet: So it is the wild west with modern weapons, sounds like a good plan.


westsiderepublicans.com

'*ahem* This plan, which is mine, is mine. *ahem*
 
2014-05-12 11:11:16 AM
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2014-05-12 11:13:30 AM
You can't be a vigilante and also be government sanctioned and armed. They are really poorly paid cops.

They should unionize.
 
2014-05-12 11:14:24 AM
Good luck Mexico. You're gonna need it. It's kind of sad when you think about how nice Mexico used to be; 40 or 50 years ago.

We(Americans as a group) invested a lot of money in Mexico; somewhat like Cuba. Now Mexico is a third world hell hole; again, very similar to Cuba. Mexico really didn't go downhill till the 80's with the weakening of their central government.
 
2014-05-12 11:17:32 AM
I think it will work better than you guys expect.

The cartels are already taking a huge hit because of marijuana legalization.
 
2014-05-12 11:18:27 AM
State controlled media (RT = Putin's Horn) attacking armed vigilantes who armed up because another corrupt State (Mexico) is unable to control the crime organizations most of their government is in bed with.
 
2014-05-12 11:20:58 AM

J. Frank Parnell: I think it will work better than you guys expect.

The cartels are already taking a huge hit because of marijuana legalization.


No bigs. They'll just switch to coke, heroin, meth, crockadil, pain pills or opiates.

/ And if none of those things work out; they'll start kidnapping 14 year old girls and selling them as sex slaves.
 
2014-05-12 11:22:32 AM
Lt. Cheese Weasel:

'*ahem* This plan, which is mine, is mine. *ahem*

Operation Fast and Furious allowed strawbuyers to purchase guns in the Texas area meaning most if not all the guns are in the hands of the Northern Cartels like Los Zetas/Sinaloa/Gulf Cartel/Beltran Levya/Juarez cartel

These southern groups like CJNG/Knights Templar get their arms from Central America mostly from the armories left over from the US Funded dirty wars against the communists in the 80's

And that entire article and the lack of research is completely disgusting on RT

"Papa Smurf" is related to members of the Knights Templar Cartel
El Americano is an ally of his with documented links directly going to the head of the Knights Templar

And Dr Mireles the one guy in this whole mess who has been with it since its inception is being made to look like a murdering nutcase who only has infighting on his mind is being actively focused on by the government with loads of made up charges.

This entire clusterf*ck exists only to benefit from the Mexican government who in time will crack down on their newly appointed vigilantes after an "unforeseen wave of crime and mayhem" they will use this excuse to go down into Guerrero/Michoacan/Oaxaca and begin to disarm the populous

Leading to in time either the CJNG or Zetas to attempt a take over
 
2014-05-12 11:24:29 AM
Papa Smurf's army?

Yeah, lick my ass, biatch.
 
2014-05-12 11:26:28 AM
The fault of the USA in 5.. 4.. 3..

Oh. It's already been done.
 
2014-05-12 11:29:25 AM

iheartscotch: J. Frank Parnell: I think it will work better than you guys expect.

The cartels are already taking a huge hit because of marijuana legalization.

No bigs. They'll just switch to coke, heroin, meth, crockadil, pain pills or opiates.

/ And if none of those things work out; they'll start kidnapping 14 year old girls and selling them as sex slaves.


Because millions of Americans stand ready to buy truckloads of 14 year old girls

/which can be grown from dirt, shipped in trucks, planes, and submarines in bales and plastic baggies, and catapulted across the border
/because selling slaves will work just as well as selling drugs
 
2014-05-12 11:33:34 AM
Did they give them Badges?
 
2014-05-12 11:33:36 AM

iheartscotch: J. Frank Parnell: I think it will work better than you guys expect.

The cartels are already taking a huge hit because of marijuana legalization.

No bigs. They'll just switch to coke, heroin, meth, crockadil, pain pills or opiates.

/ And if none of those things work out; they'll start kidnapping 14 year old girls and selling them as sex slaves.


There was an article on here last week about how they're switching to then nefarious industries of iron mining and logging.
 
2014-05-12 11:35:50 AM

mutterfark: Does it end with the guerrillas simply freezing to death in winter?


There are no gorillas in these woods. Gorillas live in Africa. This is an island in the Caribbean. There are no gorillas in these woods!!!!
 
2014-05-12 11:38:25 AM

James!: iheartscotch: J. Frank Parnell: I think it will work better than you guys expect.

The cartels are already taking a huge hit because of marijuana legalization.

No bigs. They'll just switch to coke, heroin, meth, crockadil, pain pills or opiates.

/ And if none of those things work out; they'll start kidnapping 14 year old girls and selling them as sex slaves.

There was an article on here last week about how they're switching to then nefarious industries of iron mining and logging.


Or drywall installation!  My God, they're already here!!
 
2014-05-12 11:38:35 AM
This sounds like a really bad idea. They are only armed vigilantes as long as they fight the cartels. Sooner or later they will either become another cartel, or will sell out to the highest bidder.
 
2014-05-12 11:40:31 AM

BowtoMogul: Did they give them Badges?


Badges?

Badges?!?


They don't need no stinkin' badges!
 
2014-05-12 11:40:33 AM

nosferatublue: iheartscotch: J. Frank Parnell: I think it will work better than you guys expect.

The cartels are already taking a huge hit because of marijuana legalization.

No bigs. They'll just switch to coke, heroin, meth, crockadil, pain pills or opiates.

/ And if none of those things work out; they'll start kidnapping 14 year old girls and selling them as sex slaves.

Because millions of Americans stand ready to buy truckloads of 14 year old girls

/which can be grown from dirt, shipped in trucks, planes, and submarines in bales and plastic baggies, and catapulted across the border
/because selling slaves will work just as well as selling drugs


There's actually a pretty big world market for sex slaves. Especially in Thailand and The Middle East. You can also bet china will start importing girls from other places too. They've screwed themselves over with that whole 1 child policy.

/ And if you really think that the US and Europe are better than that; you are so very wrong. There are some pretty sick farks running around here.
 
2014-05-12 11:42:40 AM

nosferatublue: iheartscotch: J. Frank Parnell: I think it will work better than you guys expect.

The cartels are already taking a huge hit because of marijuana legalization.

No bigs. They'll just switch to coke, heroin, meth, crockadil, pain pills or opiates.

/ And if none of those things work out; they'll start kidnapping 14 year old girls and selling them as sex slaves.

Because millions of Americans stand ready to buy truckloads of 14 year old girls

/which can be grown from dirt, shipped in trucks, planes, and submarines in bales and plastic baggies, and catapulted across the border
/because selling slaves will work just as well as selling drugs


Marijuana legalization doesn't affect any cartel not named The Sinaloa Cartel

The KT is almost 100% meth funded until they realized it was safer and much more profitable to enter the lucrative agricultural markets of Michoacan which dominates the lime/avocado industries in addition to selling ore to the Chinese, and lumber to the Americans
The Zetas have diversified so much its really hard to accuse them of being a drug cartel, with their main product being Cocaine/Heroin only making up 40/50% of their profits and the rest going into industry/agriculture/extortion/human smuggling/arms trafficking/etc
Gulf/Juarez/BLO are heroin/cocaine/trafficking/

Second the market for children/teens isn't only limited to being sold into prostitution

There are markets for child/teen organs/toddlers for parents desperate to adopt/ cheap labor for cartel controlled businesses and agricultural operations/hotels/.bars etc
 
2014-05-12 11:46:18 AM

James!: iheartscotch: J. Frank Parnell: I think it will work better than you guys expect.

The cartels are already taking a huge hit because of marijuana legalization.

No bigs. They'll just switch to coke, heroin, meth, crockadil, pain pills or opiates.

/ And if none of those things work out; they'll start kidnapping 14 year old girls and selling them as sex slaves.

There was an article on here last week about how they're switching to then nefarious industries of iron mining and logging.


Iron and wood won't get ceased at the boarder. That's actually pretty damn smart. We have an absolutely insatiable appetite for wood and metal.

/ Plus; an increase in illegal logging will, by definition, allow the release of more carbons and such into the air. I keep hearing about how that's a bad thing. And I can pretty much guarantee that they aren't replanting trees.
 
2014-05-12 11:49:35 AM

iheartscotch: James!: iheartscotch: J. Frank Parnell: I think it will work better than you guys expect.

The cartels are already taking a huge hit because of marijuana legalization.

No bigs. They'll just switch to coke, heroin, meth, crockadil, pain pills or opiates.

/ And if none of those things work out; they'll start kidnapping 14 year old girls and selling them as sex slaves.

There was an article on here last week about how they're switching to then nefarious industries of iron mining and logging.

Iron and wood won't get ceased at the boarder. That's actually pretty damn smart. We have an absolutely insatiable appetite for wood and metal.

/ Plus; an increase in illegal logging will, by definition, allow the release of more carbons and such into the air. I keep hearing about how that's a bad thing. And I can pretty much guarantee that they aren't replanting trees.


Actually, a whole shipload of iron ore was seized by the Mexican navy last week. It seems that you have to do a whole bunch of paperwork and stuff to legally export things, which drug cartels are loathe to do.
 
2014-05-12 11:49:41 AM
When I read about Mexico and its citizens, I can't help but think "I want more of that in my country."

Open the borders. American isn't violent enough yet. Wages are not quite low enough yet.
 
2014-05-12 11:51:45 AM
International Labor Office estimates global human trafficking market is $32 billion.

UN estimates the global drug market is $321 billion.

For simple practical reasons, there will never be the same market for sex slaves that there is for drugs. If drugs were legalized, sex slavery would not support the cartels as they exist today. Some of them would have to knuckle under and get legit jobs.
 
2014-05-12 11:53:11 AM
expatree.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-05-12 11:54:20 AM

nosferatublue: Because millions of Americans stand ready to buy truckloads of 14 year old girls


Bingo.  If the market existed in that quantity* the gangs would have already expanded to take advantage of the demand.

Heck, consider legal transportation systems - it's rare for a transportation system to be justified with only ONE cargo type.

Now shift that to illegal transportation - you have various kinds of drugs, illegal border crossings, human trafficking, etc...  The more volume you have, the more elaborate methods to bypass border guards makes sense.  The more industrialized it is, you could say.

Remove a major component of those crossings such as weed, and while transport costs would drop initially as there's an over-capacity of supply, as said systems are destroyed and not replaced(because it's not worth the money), the expense per item will actually eventually increase over current costs.

*I'm not going to pretend that it doesn't exist at all.
 
2014-05-12 11:56:24 AM

cgraves67: iheartscotch: James!: iheartscotch: J. Frank Parnell: I think it will work better than you guys expect.

The cartels are already taking a huge hit because of marijuana legalization.

No bigs. They'll just switch to coke, heroin, meth, crockadil, pain pills or opiates.

/ And if none of those things work out; they'll start kidnapping 14 year old girls and selling them as sex slaves.

There was an article on here last week about how they're switching to then nefarious industries of iron mining and logging.

Iron and wood won't get ceased at the boarder. That's actually pretty damn smart. We have an absolutely insatiable appetite for wood and metal.

/ Plus; an increase in illegal logging will, by definition, allow the release of more carbons and such into the air. I keep hearing about how that's a bad thing. And I can pretty much guarantee that they aren't replanting trees.

Actually, a whole shipload of iron ore was seized by the Mexican navy last week. It seems that you have to do a whole bunch of paperwork and stuff to legally export things, which drug cartels are loathe to do.


Granted. But; how many other shipments were missed? And, how many coyotes transport iron ore now?

If I ran things for the cartels; I'd make sure my goods only traveled on legit trading vessels. And only in small amounts, a ton here and a ton there. Basically, I'd make sure my product was completely indistinguishable from its legit counterpart.
 
2014-05-12 12:03:43 PM
Only, they really aren't legitimizing them so much as conscripting them into being members of the Mexican police force.
If they don't want to 'join' the official police force and put under government control they are claimed to be outlaws.
They also must register all of their weapons.
Funny how this article has a slightly different spin than Putin's Press.


Mexico vigilantes register weapons, are to disband

http://www.latimes.com/world/mexico-americas/la-fg-michoacan-violenc e- 20140512-story.html
 
2014-05-12 12:06:04 PM
I blame the culture of guns in Mexico.

Oh, wait...
 
2014-05-12 12:07:04 PM
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Not to worry I'm sure they'll be responsible.
 
2014-05-12 12:07:09 PM

iheartscotch: cgraves67: iheartscotch: James!: iheartscotch: J. Frank Parnell: I think it will work better than you guys expect.

The cartels are already taking a huge hit because of marijuana legalization.

No bigs. They'll just switch to coke, heroin, meth, crockadil, pain pills or opiates.

/ And if none of those things work out; they'll start kidnapping 14 year old girls and selling them as sex slaves.

There was an article on here last week about how they're switching to then nefarious industries of iron mining and logging.

Iron and wood won't get ceased at the boarder. That's actually pretty damn smart. We have an absolutely insatiable appetite for wood and metal.

/ Plus; an increase in illegal logging will, by definition, allow the release of more carbons and such into the air. I keep hearing about how that's a bad thing. And I can pretty much guarantee that they aren't replanting trees.

Actually, a whole shipload of iron ore was seized by the Mexican navy last week. It seems that you have to do a whole bunch of paperwork and stuff to legally export things, which drug cartels are loathe to do.

Granted. But; how many other shipments were missed? And, how many coyotes transport iron ore now?

If I ran things for the cartels; I'd make sure my goods only traveled on legit trading vessels. And only in small amounts, a ton here and a ton there. Basically, I'd make sure my product was completely indistinguishable from its legit counterpart.


I agree, it is probably a good idea to make the iron ore (or logging) a legitimate core business for your massive illegal empire. If for no other reason than to be a front for your other, nefarious operations.

When you ship iron ore long distances, you want to ship it en bulk to maximize your profit margins because it is probably all going to one buyer. It's not like drugs which get dispersed in smaller quantities to individual buyers. Micro shipments will bleed you dry.
 
2014-05-12 12:17:39 PM

Nemo's Brother: When I read about Mexico and its citizens, I can't help but think "I want more of that in my country."

Open the borders. American isn't violent enough yet. Wages are not quite low enough yet.


Pretty much why anyone who says "open the border" should be beaten with a bat.
 
2014-05-12 12:27:38 PM

J. Frank Parnell: I think it will work better than you guys expect.

The cartels are already taking a huge hit because of marijuana legalization.


Besides the real connoisseur smokes canadian.
 
2014-05-12 12:35:52 PM

nosferatublue: iheartscotch: J. Frank Parnell: I think it will work better than you guys expect.

The cartels are already taking a huge hit because of marijuana legalization.

No bigs. They'll just switch to coke, heroin, meth, crockadil, pain pills or opiates.

/ And if none of those things work out; they'll start kidnapping 14 year old girls and selling them as sex slaves.

Because millions of Americans stand ready to buy truckloads of 14 year old girls

/which can be grown from dirt, shipped in trucks, planes, and submarines in bales and plastic baggies, and catapulted across the border
/because selling slaves will work just as well as selling drugs


They can switch to selling other drugs and weapons and women all they want. I doubt the market for any of these things is going to expand much further than it already is.

just because people can buy legal herb doesn't mean they are ready to jam a needle in their arm. Nor would people do it just to "stick it to the man"
 
2014-05-12 12:59:54 PM

iheartscotch: nosferatublue: iheartscotch: J. Frank Parnell: I think it will work better than you guys expect.

The cartels are already taking a huge hit because of marijuana legalization.

No bigs. They'll just switch to coke, heroin, meth, crockadil, pain pills or opiates.

/ And if none of those things work out; they'll start kidnapping 14 year old girls and selling them as sex slaves.

Because millions of Americans stand ready to buy truckloads of 14 year old girls

/which can be grown from dirt, shipped in trucks, planes, and submarines in bales and plastic baggies, and catapulted across the border
/because selling slaves will work just as well as selling drugs

There's actually a pretty big world market for sex slaves. Especially in Thailand and The Middle East. You can also bet china will start importing girls from other places too. They've screwed themselves over with that whole 1 child policy.

/ And if you really think that the US and Europe are better than that; you are so very wrong. There are some pretty sick farks running around here.


No shiat. The cops here in South Dakota have busted a couple of local sex slave rings lately. The sex trade generally picks up at the start of hunting season when all the out-of-state hunters come in to have a good old manly weekend. Lots of makeshift titty bars/brothels open in the middle of nowhere and are hard to track down. Every once in a while, one will get busted for having underage girls from other countries (mostly) working against their will.
 
2014-05-12 01:01:02 PM

teenage mutant ninja rapist: just because people can buy legal herb doesn't mean they are ready to jam a needle in their arm. Nor would people do it just to "stick it to the man"


If anything, with the spread of legalization of weed they're less likely to switch to heavier drugs because doing MJ isn't seen as a big deal, thus doing it illegally is about the same as speeding(perception, remember).  That raises the bar for doing heavier drugs like cocaine.  Having it be legal means fewer dealers, and fewer dealers means that finding a dealer is more difficult, less likely to trade up.
 
2014-05-12 01:10:37 PM

iheartscotch: Good luck Mexico. You're gonna need it. It's kind of sad when you think about how nice Mexico used to be; 40 or 50 years ago.

We(Americans as a group) invested a lot of money in Mexico; somewhat like Cuba. Now Mexico is a third world hell hole; again, very similar to Cuba. Mexico really didn't go downhill till the 80's with the weakening of their central government.


When was the last time you went to either of these countries?
 
2014-05-12 01:12:07 PM

redmid17: mutterfark: Does it end with the guerrillas simply freezing to death in winter?

There are no gorillas in these woods. Gorillas live in Africa. This is an island in the Caribbean. There are no gorillas in these woods!!!!


www.cityoffilms.com
 
2014-05-12 01:26:47 PM
At what point does Mexico realize that the drug war is a full-on civil war/rebellion and not a criminal matter?
 
2014-05-12 01:27:28 PM

BowtoMogul: Did they give them Badges?


I'm told badges are not strictly necessary.
 
2014-05-12 01:31:00 PM

El Dudereno: iheartscotch: nosferatublue: iheartscotch: J. Frank Parnell: I think it will work better than you guys expect.

The cartels are already taking a huge hit because of marijuana legalization.

No bigs. They'll just switch to coke, heroin, meth, crockadil, pain pills or opiates.

/ And if none of those things work out; they'll start kidnapping 14 year old girls and selling them as sex slaves.

Because millions of Americans stand ready to buy truckloads of 14 year old girls

/which can be grown from dirt, shipped in trucks, planes, and submarines in bales and plastic baggies, and catapulted across the border
/because selling slaves will work just as well as selling drugs

There's actually a pretty big world market for sex slaves. Especially in Thailand and The Middle East. You can also bet china will start importing girls from other places too. They've screwed themselves over with that whole 1 child policy.

/ And if you really think that the US and Europe are better than that; you are so very wrong. There are some pretty sick farks running around here.

No shiat. The cops here in South Dakota have busted a couple of local sex slave rings lately. The sex trade generally picks up at the start of hunting season when all the out-of-state hunters come in to have a good old manly weekend. Lots of makeshift titty bars/brothels open in the middle of nowhere and are hard to track down. Every once in a while, one will get busted for having underage girls from other countries (mostly) working against their will.


I hear that fracking has turned the clock back in the Dakotas and Minnesota to the 1860's.

Brothels, painted ladies, dive bars and saloons have sprouted like mushrooms. The vast influx of dudes; plus, the rarity of womanly company have created a perfect storm of vice and villainy.
 
2014-05-12 01:57:18 PM

iheartscotch: Brothels, painted ladies, dive bars and saloons have sprouted like mushrooms. The vast influx of dudes; plus, the rarity of womanly company have created a perfect storm of vice and villainy.


Don't forget money and harsh living/working conditions so they want release.
 
2014-05-12 02:09:16 PM

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Farkin guidos.
 
2014-05-12 02:32:19 PM
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Q. How will we get rid of the cartels?
A. Well, we'll just arm citizens!
Q. How will we get rid of the citizens?
A. We'll release giant apes who are bullet resistant!
Q. How do we get rid of the apes?
A. Oh they die off in the summer!
 
2014-05-12 02:55:55 PM

iheartscotch: El Dudereno: iheartscotch: nosferatublue: iheartscotch: J. Frank Parnell: I think it will work better than you guys expect.

The cartels are already taking a huge hit because of marijuana legalization.

No bigs. They'll just switch to coke, heroin, meth, crockadil, pain pills or opiates.

/ And if none of those things work out; they'll start kidnapping 14 year old girls and selling them as sex slaves.

Because millions of Americans stand ready to buy truckloads of 14 year old girls

/which can be grown from dirt, shipped in trucks, planes, and submarines in bales and plastic baggies, and catapulted across the border
/because selling slaves will work just as well as selling drugs

There's actually a pretty big world market for sex slaves. Especially in Thailand and The Middle East. You can also bet china will start importing girls from other places too. They've screwed themselves over with that whole 1 child policy.

/ And if you really think that the US and Europe are better than that; you are so very wrong. There are some pretty sick farks running around here.

No shiat. The cops here in South Dakota have busted a couple of local sex slave rings lately. The sex trade generally picks up at the start of hunting season when all the out-of-state hunters come in to have a good old manly weekend. Lots of makeshift titty bars/brothels open in the middle of nowhere and are hard to track down. Every once in a while, one will get busted for having underage girls from other countries (mostly) working against their will.

I hear that fracking has turned the clock back in the Dakotas and Minnesota to the 1860's.

Brothels, painted ladies, dive bars and saloons have sprouted like mushrooms. The vast influx of dudes; plus, the rarity of womanly company have created a perfect storm of vice and villainy.


That wouldn't surprise me at all. Every rush on natural resources in history has had its share of camp followers. The Dakotas are no strangers to lawless debauchery.
 
2014-05-12 03:10:25 PM
You could run a human hunting business in Mexico now any bodies would just be thought of cartel kills.
 
2014-05-12 03:19:30 PM

groppet: You could run a human hunting business in Mexico now any bodies would just be thought of cartel kills.


Who says that the cartels aren't running such?
 
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