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(The Atlantic)   Guys, check out this article about how to use Bitcoin to buy fake ID - Drew   (theatlantic.com ) divider line
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2014-05-12 09:40:43 AM  
That doesn't make sense. It's generally accepted that when you want to engage in an illegal transaction you use cash. Not that I would do that, I'm an angel.
 
2014-05-12 10:41:24 AM  
Is this so I can pretend to be someone else on Fark?
 
2014-05-12 11:21:13 AM  

InterruptingQuirk: Is this so I can pretend to be someone else on Fark?


Oops sorry I logged in with the wrong account.
 
2014-05-12 12:33:48 PM  
A story from Drew on using a fake currency to buy a fake ID right as W00tStout is about to make a return... nice timing!
 
2014-05-12 02:56:28 PM  

jaylectricity: InterruptingQuirk: Is this so I can pretend to be someone else on Fark?

Oops sorry I logged in with the wrong account.


Okay, this is the right one now.
 
2014-05-12 02:57:59 PM  
Not this crap again...it isn't happening, it isn't real, it's another fake news story.
 
2014-05-12 02:59:32 PM  

Delay: That doesn't make sense. It's generally accepted that when you want to engage in an illegal transaction you use cash. Not that I would do that, I'm an angel.


Bitcoin is as untraceable as cash, and you don't need to make the transaction in person.
 
2014-05-12 02:59:44 PM  
and not a single fark was given
 
2014-05-12 03:00:14 PM  
bitcoin are the underworld currency of me and I would be open to the imitating of you

I will have many dancings of this day and later it will be many bits OF COINS before I will drunkenly try the sex of you
 
2014-05-12 03:00:20 PM  

mama2tnt: jaylectricity: InterruptingQuirk: Is this so I can pretend to be someone else on Fark?

Oops sorry I logged in with the wrong account.

Okay, this is the right one now.


Damn, I think my wife found out my password
 
2014-05-12 03:02:05 PM  
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2014-05-12 03:02:42 PM  
CSB: When I was in high school there was a place in San Fran called "Locks, Keys and IDs" that sold novelty IDs. It worked like a charm at so many liquor stores in California where the guy who owned the place didn't speak English and just wanted to see the cash. The damn thing had "NOT A GOVERNMENT DOCUMENT" stamped across it diagonally, but it still worked.
 
2014-05-12 03:03:09 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Delay: That doesn't make sense. It's generally accepted that when you want to engage in an illegal transaction you use cash. Not that I would do that, I'm an angel.

Bitcoin is as untraceable as cash, and you don't need to make the transaction in person.


Bitcoin is the most traceable "currency" out there - you tell everyone on the planet every time you make a transaction
 
2014-05-12 03:03:33 PM  
Reported for calling out a Farker
 
2014-05-12 03:06:02 PM  
Ahhh the good old days when youcould just grab a back of trash from behind the DMV and have enough stock to create hundreds of fake ID's

/then again this was back in the "two-part" license days
 
2014-05-12 03:06:29 PM  
Going to college in NYC, getting a fake ID was practically part of the orientation week.  You couldn't have a social life without one (there aren't really frat houses in the city for obvious reasons and the few that exist are cramped and shiatty), bouncers don't really give a shiat about verifying the legitimacy unless they just don't want you in their bar/club (dress the part), and I honestly never heard of anyone getting in trouble with the 5-0 for having one.  You just lost it if you got caught.
 
2014-05-12 03:07:41 PM  

Fark like a Barsoomian: bitcoin are the underworld currency of me and I would be open to the imitating of you

I will have many dancings of this day and later it will be many bits OF COINS before I will drunkenly try the sex of you


*slaps you with a large dead fishy*
 
2014-05-12 03:07:45 PM  

stratagos: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Delay: That doesn't make sense. It's generally accepted that when you want to engage in an illegal transaction you use cash. Not that I would do that, I'm an angel.

Bitcoin is as untraceable as cash, and you don't need to make the transaction in person.

Bitcoin is the most traceable "currency" out there - you tell everyone on the planet every time you make a transaction


This is not correct. The way Bitcoin works isn't mysterious, Google it. It's as untraceable as you want it to be.
 
2014-05-12 03:10:04 PM  
On my 21st bday, the bouncer thought I gave him a fake ID.  With a little smirk, he says, you want it back, call the cops.  2 squads and 4 cops later, prick wasn't smiling anymore.

/csb
 
2014-05-12 03:11:37 PM  

InterruptingQuirk: Is this so I can pretend to be someone else on Fark?


romston.com
 
2014-05-12 03:13:06 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Bitcoin is as untraceable as cash, and you don't need to make the transaction in person.


Some of the anonymity is lost when you FedEx the contraband to your home address after completing the transaction online, though.
 
2014-05-12 03:13:18 PM  

blatz514: On my 21st bday, the bouncer thought I gave him a fake ID.  With a little smirk, he says, you want it back, call the cops.  2 squads and 4 cops later, prick wasn't smiling anymore.

/csb


Awesome!

You used a asshole with a little bit of authority to best some other asshole with a little bit of authority!
 
2014-05-12 03:13:24 PM  
I just compensated an older friend for the driver's license, student ID, and cancelled credit card, with a drink waiting for him the first few times he walked into the bar after me.
 
2014-05-12 03:13:57 PM  
We should start FarkCoin.
 
2014-05-12 03:14:10 PM  

Siberian Khatru: mama2tnt: jaylectricity: InterruptingQuirk: Is this so I can pretend to be someone else on Fark?

Oops sorry I logged in with the wrong account.

Okay, this is the right one now.

Damn, I think my wife found out my password


Well shiat, how did I lose Totalfark?
 
2014-05-12 03:14:35 PM  
Here's 5 bitcoins....

Please to be giving me infinite Total Fark


media.heavy.com
 
2014-05-12 03:15:06 PM  

Drummer: We should start FarkCoin.


Sorry kid, ass pennies have been around for at least 20 years
 
2014-05-12 03:15:24 PM  
Though Tri says the ID appears to have been sent from Taiwan, the website where he placed the order-new-ids.com-is registered with a San Diego address.

No surprise. Border towns have a lot of illegal immigrants and they're big customers for illicit IDs of all sorts.
 
2014-05-12 03:15:32 PM  

Fark like a Barsoomian: bitcoin are the underworld currency of me and I would be open to the imitating of you

I will have many dancings of this day and later it will be many bits OF COINS before I will drunkenly try the sex of you


Are you Meow?
 
2014-05-12 03:18:03 PM  
For slightly less than the cost of two fake IDs, my bitcoin purchase included The Big Bundle: ID, PhD, and Ordination Certificate to perform marriages, jus primae noctis, and the occasional bris.
 
2014-05-12 03:18:29 PM  

blatz514: On my 21st bday, the bouncer thought I gave him a fake ID.  With a little smirk, he says, you want it back, call the cops.  2 squads and 4 cops later, prick wasn't smiling anymore.

/csb


Same thing (sans 21st) happened to my GF's roommate except she didn't get in. I think she was 23 at the time. It was amusing to hear the back and forth.

"There are like 10 people from Wyoming. It's one of the most common fakes we get. The odds of you being from Wyoming are astronomical."
"I'm from Rock Springs. I go to DePaul, which is why I still have a Wyoming license."
"Why would someone from Wyoming want to go to DePaul?"
"Why would I want to stay in Wyoming?"

IIRC this was some douchey bar in Wrigleyville, so it wasn't a big loss. We just we next door and got hammered.
 
2014-05-12 03:20:48 PM  
Who cares if kids get fake ID's? Yet, Drew is continuing to pump for more TotalFark $5 idiots. THAT'S the true shame.
 
2014-05-12 03:22:27 PM  

redmid17: blatz514: On my 21st bday, the bouncer thought I gave him a fake ID.  With a little smirk, he says, you want it back, call the cops.  2 squads and 4 cops later, prick wasn't smiling anymore.

/csb

Same thing (sans 21st) happened to my GF's roommate except she didn't get in. I think she was 23 at the time. It was amusing to hear the back and forth.

"There are like 10 people from Wyoming. It's one of the most common fakes we get. The odds of you being from Wyoming are astronomical."
"I'm from Rock Springs. I go to DePaul, which is why I still have a Wyoming license."
"Why would someone from Wyoming want to go to DePaul?"
"Why would I want to stay in Wyoming?"

IIRC this was some douchey bar in Wrigleyville, so it wasn't a big loss. We just we next door and got hammered.


Pre 9/11, me and 3 other guys from Florida were crossing from Detroit into Windsor.  The Canadian border guard indirectly accused our IDs of being fake by sarcastically commenting "Why would anyone from Florida be on vacation in Detroit?"
 
2014-05-12 03:28:44 PM  
I had a fake ID, worked great for a couple of weeks, until I got cocky and decided to hit up the bar at the new hotel in town, already sporting a buzz. The ID worked great, bartender brought me a cold brew. Looked to the left to check out the ladies (hah), looked to the right, only to be staring at my pissed off dad who was three bar stools away.
Good times.......
 
2014-05-12 03:28:57 PM  
I prefer the wow factor that Dogecoin has.
 
2014-05-12 03:30:37 PM  

DrSansabeltNoShiatSlacks: Who cares if kids get fake ID's? Yet, Drew is continuing to pump for more TotalFark $5 idiots. THAT'S the true shame.


Wow, modmins must be asleep at the wheel today.
 
2014-05-12 03:31:18 PM  

tricycleracer: "Why would anyone from Florida be on vacation in Detroit?"



As valid a question today as it was back then.
 
2014-05-12 03:35:59 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Delay: That doesn't make sense. It's generally accepted that when you want to engage in an illegal transaction you use cash. Not that I would do that, I'm an angel.

Bitcoin is as untraceable as cash, and you don't need to make the transaction in person.


And completely unhackable.
 
2014-05-12 03:39:46 PM  
FTA:
"The immediate first impression was that even if it wasn't a cartoon character, the colors were kind of off," Tri said. "You could tell it wasn't 100 percent passable."
Bartenders and bouncers generally agreed with him. (This wasn't a perfect test, though, as the people he asked knew what they were about to see was fake.)

The hell you say!  When you tell someone they are about to see a fake ID they magically can tell it's a fake ID.  Let me show you my shock face.
 
2014-05-12 03:40:19 PM  

Anastacya: Siberian Khatru: mama2tnt: jaylectricity: InterruptingQuirk: Is this so I can pretend to be someone else on Fark?

Oops sorry I logged in with the wrong account.

Okay, this is the right one now.

Damn, I think my wife found out my password

Well shiat, how did I lose Totalfark?


Identity stolen, then sold for bitcoins?
 
2014-05-12 03:52:02 PM  
Meanwhile in Canada, you can walk down to the corner store and buy fake novelty ID. My understanding is for an extra $100 they'll even program it, so when it's run through a card reader it looks totally legit.
 
2014-05-12 03:57:52 PM  
Can someone explain to me why bitcoins aren't completely stupid, assuming that I have no desire to engage in illegal transactions and do not wear a tinfoil hat?
 
2014-05-12 04:16:17 PM  

RTOGUY: tricycleracer: "Why would anyone from Florida be on vacation in Detroit?"


As valid a question today as it was back then.


One of the guys in the car went to UM.  The other 3 of us drove up to see him and hit casinos in Windsor as we were all 20 at the time.
 
2014-05-12 04:35:11 PM  

Jument: Can someone explain to me why bitcoins aren't completely stupid, assuming that I have no desire to engage in illegal transactions and do not wear a tinfoil hat?


At least in theory, bitcoins allow you to transfer money between two people over the Internet without any central authority to mediate and/or take a cut.  I remember a guy in a previous bitcoin thread told a story about how he got stuck in a foreign country with no cash in the local currency, and was able to trade bitcoins for local currency from a fellow traveler.  I have also heard that bitcoin is popular in places with unstable or untrusted local currencies, such as Cypress, but that says more about those local currencies than it does about bitcoin.

That being said, bitcoin as a currency has a lot of the same limitations that gold coins do, such as inflexible supply and vulnerability to speculation, which makes their value far less stable than most fiat currencies (notice that bitcoin's most vocal supporters also tend to be big fans of the gold standard).  In addition, it takes so long to validate a bitcoin transaction that it's infeasible for a typical brick-and-mortar retailer to accept payments in them.  And in the case of the lost traveler from the previous thread, it later came out that he could have easily gotten cash from American Express (most credit cards offer some level of complimentary travel insurance if you use them to pay for airline tickets and such), but he hadn't done his research before traveling and therefore didn't know.
 
2014-05-12 05:01:32 PM  

ChipNASA: Here's 5 bitcoins....

Please to be giving me infinite Total Fark

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I really like how in nearly every Bitcoin article there is a picture of what bitcoins look like.  As if it's something that I can exchange for dollars at the bank, and have a pocket full of bitcoins.
 
2014-05-12 05:17:03 PM  

anfrind: Jument: Can someone explain to me why bitcoins aren't completely stupid, assuming that I have no desire to engage in illegal transactions and do not wear a tinfoil hat?

At least in theory, bitcoins allow you to transfer money between two people over the Internet without any central authority to mediate and/or take a cut.  I remember a guy in a previous bitcoin thread told a story about how he got stuck in a foreign country with no cash in the local currency, and was able to trade bitcoins for local currency from a fellow traveler.  I have also heard that bitcoin is popular in places with unstable or untrusted local currencies, such as Cypress, but that says more about those local currencies than it does about bitcoin.

That being said, bitcoin as a currency has a lot of the same limitations that gold coins do, such as inflexible supply and vulnerability to speculation, which makes their value far less stable than most fiat currencies (notice that bitcoin's most vocal supporters also tend to be big fans of the gold standard).  In addition, it takes so long to validate a bitcoin transaction that it's infeasible for a typical brick-and-mortar retailer to accept payments in them.  And in the case of the lost traveler from the previous thread, it later came out that he could have easily gotten cash from American Express (most credit cards offer some level of complimentary travel insurance if you use them to pay for airline tickets and such), but he hadn't done his research before traveling and therefore didn't know.


Yeah, personally I would dismiss that first example instantly. That's a case of "every problem looks like a nail". As you said there are many options in that scenario, and even if some of then involve paying a fee that's not sufficient justification to invent a brand new currency.

At least gold has intrinsic value. At some point you rely on the willingness of people to trade money for gold but there's a lot of history and a pretty good chance that the demand for gold is solid. I don't get how anyone can place that level of trust in a bits that already have a sordid history of being lost or stolen.

So... it's basically just the tinfoil hat lunatics?
 
2014-05-12 06:32:41 PM  

jst3p: CSB: When I was in high school there was a place in San Fran called "Locks, Keys and IDs" that sold novelty IDs. It worked like a charm at so many liquor stores in California where the guy who owned the place didn't speak English and just wanted to see the cash. The damn thing had "NOT A GOVERNMENT DOCUMENT" stamped across it diagonally, but it still worked.


It used to be, or so I heard, that ID's like this would be double laminated, with something like that, or Novelty, and enterprising people would just cut off the outer lamination that had that stamp on it.  Of course this was before most of the states went to the credit card plastic type ID's we have now.   Who knows what people do now.
 
2014-05-12 10:47:42 PM  

Sim Tree: Fark like a Barsoomian: bitcoin are the underworld currency of me and I would be open to the imitating of you

I will have many dancings of this day and later it will be many bits OF COINS before I will drunkenly try the sex of you

Are you Meow?


I think that's the joke, meow.
 
2014-05-13 01:34:53 PM  
I submitted this with a better headline.
//modmins
 
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