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(KSL Salt Lake City)   As Japanese continue to loudly disapprove of Gareth Edwards' Godzilla, Toho executive admits that if his studio ever makes a new Godzilla movie, they will ditch the rubber suit and use similar CGI to render him   (ksl.com ) divider line
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2014-05-12 08:17:58 AM  
Damn, they're worse than American fanboys.
 
2014-05-12 08:51:37 AM  
That's nothing...don't get them started on the fact that American porn doesn't pixelate genitals...
 
2014-05-12 09:15:27 AM  
They wonder if the Warner Bros. remake will be a tribute or an embarrassment for Japan's monstrous legacy.

Well then STFU and let it come out first.

And I know I'm being a massive hypocrite as I slam many remakes and reboots before they come out. But shiat, it looks like they did their homework this time and I'm gonna give them a chance.
 
2014-05-12 09:22:27 AM  
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2014-05-12 09:37:12 AM  
I'm holding off for a Gamera remake.

/He's really neat.
//He's full of meat.
 
2014-05-12 09:41:37 AM  

pacochu: I'm holding off for a Gamera remake.

/He's really neat.
//He's full of meat.


He is friend to all children!
 
2014-05-12 09:42:23 AM  
FTA: "I hope the day will come when a Japanese director can make a Godzilla movie again for the world," he said.


Dude, nobody is stopping you.
 
2014-05-12 09:43:23 AM  

UberDave: That's nothing...don't get them started on the fact that American porn doesn't pixelate genitals...


I've always been curious, do the savvier Japanese fappers try to get around that by downloading foreign porn or are they perfectly happy with 2 blurry dots bumping together?
 
2014-05-12 09:57:03 AM  

browntimmy: UberDave: That's nothing...don't get them started on the fact that American porn doesn't pixelate genitals...

I've always been curious, do the savvier Japanese fappers try to get around that by downloading foreign porn or are they perfectly happy with 2 blurry dots bumping together?


I don't know, but I'm betting there's an American in a fedora and cargo shorts out there who claims to prefer pixilated porn because it's Japanese.
 
2014-05-12 10:03:38 AM  

browntimmy: UberDave: That's nothing...don't get them started on the fact that American porn doesn't pixelate genitals...

I've always been curious, do the savvier Japanese fappers try to get around that by downloading foreign porn or are they perfectly happy with 2 blurry dots bumping together?


From my limited "first hand" research, the Adult Internet cafes were stocked with only pixalated porn.  The private rooms are equipped with PC (Windows XP) but all activity is supposedly tracked.  I can't quite remember but I do seem to recall that it could get out to sites outside the country.

The thing that really stood out to me was that there was almost no western looking woman in any of the videos.  I only saw one where the star wasn't Japanese.
 
2014-05-12 10:04:40 AM  
millionmonkeytheater.com
It's not a Godzilla movie without Rex Dart:  Eskimo Spy.
 
2014-05-12 10:04:53 AM  

browntimmy: UberDave: That's nothing...don't get them started on the fact that American porn doesn't pixelate genitals...

I've always been curious, do the savvier Japanese fappers try to get around that by downloading foreign porn or are they perfectly happy with 2 blurry dots bumping together?


It probably has something to do with hiding their famously small genitalia.  Thats probably also why the women make those dolphin squealing noises, as if his mighty 4 inches is just too much
 
2014-05-12 10:09:38 AM  

scottydoesntknow: They wonder if the Warner Bros. remake will be a tribute or an embarrassment for Japan's monstrous legacy.

Well then STFU and let it come out first.

And I know I'm being a massive hypocrite as I slam many remakes and reboots before they come out. But shiat, it looks like they did their homework this time and I'm gonna give them a chance.


Yeah, the trailers make it at least seem like it's attempting some of what the original was about.  Then again after Godzilla 2000 I don't blame them for being gunshy either.

give me doughnuts: FTA: "I hope the day will come when a Japanese director can make a Godzilla movie again for the world," he said.


Dude, nobody is stopping you.


I was thinking, man it wasn't that long ago that Godzilla Final Wars came out but it was like 10 years ago already.  Get on it Japan.
 
2014-05-12 10:13:44 AM  
I loved Final Wars. That was good times.

But if they do not maintain the man in suit movies I will be very very sad. Part of the charm is watching minatures get destroyed and spotting the wire rigs.
 
2014-05-12 10:15:17 AM  

scottydoesntknow: They wonder if the Warner Bros. remake will be a tribute or an embarrassment for Japan's monstrous legacy.

Well then STFU and let it come out first.

And I know I'm being a massive hypocrite as I slam many remakes and reboots before they come out. But shiat, it looks like they did their homework this time and I'm gonna give them a chance.


They do have some reason to be apprehensive.
 
2014-05-12 10:18:00 AM  
What a coincidence. A non-news story about apprehension over a movie that will be released in... 5 days?
 
2014-05-12 10:19:41 AM  
Just remember - Gozilla is inside of all of us.
 
2014-05-12 10:21:09 AM  

give me doughnuts: FTA: "I hope the day will come when a Japanese director can make a Godzilla movie again for the world," he said.


Dude, nobody is stopping you.


That quote sounds like it's from a bizarre version of MLK's "I Have A Dream" speech.
 
2014-05-12 10:25:06 AM  
 FTA: "I hope the day will come when a Japanese director can make a Godzilla movie again for the world," he said.

WTF, is "the world" really clamoring for another Godzilla remake? How many different times do they need to tell this story?
 
2014-05-12 10:31:37 AM  
Rubber suit or no, "Godzilla: Final Wars" tanked.  So a terrifying force-of-nature Godzilla like the '54 original is likely to be an improvement both critically and financially.
 
2014-05-12 10:34:04 AM  

Barricaded Gunman: FTA: "I hope the day will come when a Japanese director can make a Godzilla movie again for the world," he said.

WTF, is "the world" really clamoring for another Godzilla remake? How many different times do they need to tell this story?


As many as possible.  Godzilla movies are awesome.
 
2014-05-12 10:36:14 AM  
Okay, I'm not a Godzilla fan and the 2000 one came out when I was pretty young, so I don't understand. Can someone (calmly) explain what was so objectively bad and why the other ones were so much better? Because honestly, just about anything I've seen out of the original studio looks like a Japanese Troma movie.
 
2014-05-12 10:40:02 AM  
All I get from that is that they're clamoring for Godzilla to look less scary and less realistic. In a movie based in reality in which I assume thousands of people die and cities get destroyed I'm going to go ahead and say scary and realistic is a good choice.
 
2014-05-12 10:46:20 AM  
They wonder if the Warner Bros. remake will be a tribute or an embarrassment for Japan's monstrous legacy.

Yeah, God forbid those damn Americans sully the characters good name...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQC0QFiVNHk


STFU.
 
2014-05-12 10:56:36 AM  

CarnySaur: give me doughnuts: FTA: "I hope the day will come when a Japanese director can make a Godzilla movie again for the world," he said.


Dude, nobody is stopping you.

That quote sounds like it's from a bizarre version of MLK's "I Have A Dream" speech.


I just heard in MLK's voice.

Laughing when you have a hot tea in your mouth is kind of hard on the nasal passages.
 
2014-05-12 11:06:58 AM  

Son of Thunder: pacochu: I'm holding off for a Gamera remake.

/He's really neat.
//He's full of meat.

He is friend to all children!


True story, out of the blue last night my 65 year old, whitebread conservative father asked who the flying turtle that "hung around with Godzilla" was.  I felt a twinge of pride in being able to answer his question.
 
2014-05-12 11:08:58 AM  

Mentat: Damn, they're worse than American fanboys.


They are. That's a country where the idle '2/10 would not bang' stuff that gets thrown around here becomes official policy. One single act that makes it look like you might possibly come off the market one day and it's RUINED FOREVER and your career goes into an immediate nosedive.
 
2014-05-12 11:15:17 AM  

scottydoesntknow: They wonder if the Warner Bros. remake will be a tribute or an embarrassment for Japan's monstrous legacy.

Well then STFU and let it come out first.

And I know I'm being a massive hypocrite as I slam many remakes and reboots before they come out. But shiat, it looks like they did their homework this time and I'm gonna give them a chance.


Yeah.  I've seen practically every Godzilla film and have been a lifelong fan.  I had seen Monster when it first came out and thought: with a budget and a slightly better cast, Gareth Edwards can do some awesome stuff.  I just don't see being let down by this new Godzilla.  People are gonna biatch about it for a variety of reasons, but Toho is okay with the shiatload of money they're about to make, and the Japanese fanboys need to understand they haven't had a decent film/creating since the films introducing Kiryu.

Toho should have been punished for releasing the shiat that was Final Wars.
 
2014-05-12 11:18:23 AM  
"I am the original, the real thing," he said, stressing that later Godzilla are mere imitations. "If Godzilla can't walk properly, it's nothing but a freak show."

You sir, are an icon, and I respect your position in the lexicon of filmmaking.  But your Godzilla ALWAYS looked like a guy in a rubber suit.
 
2014-05-12 11:21:47 AM  

LandOfChocolate: browntimmy: UberDave: That's nothing...don't get them started on the fact that American porn doesn't pixelate genitals...

I've always been curious, do the savvier Japanese fappers try to get around that by downloading foreign porn or are they perfectly happy with 2 blurry dots bumping together?

It probably has something to do with hiding their famously small genitalia.  Thats probably also why the women make those dolphin squealing noises, as if his mighty 4 inches is just too much


The pixelation has to do with actual laws preventing the showing of genitalia iirc.
Which is why hentai became a thing since it got around those laws (at least the non human variety).
 
2014-05-12 11:23:46 AM  
Anyone?
 
2014-05-12 11:27:53 AM  

browntimmy: UberDave: That's nothing...don't get them started on the fact that American porn doesn't pixelate genitals...

I've always been curious, do the savvier Japanese fappers try to get around that by downloading foreign porn or are they perfectly happy with 2 blurry dots bumping together?


There's a lot of weird things about the porn industry in Japan, and the porn itself may be the least of it. Been here 7.5 years and I still can't quite explain how the industry manages to be as mainstream and vibrant as it is - far more healthier than the US industry, for example.

As for your questions, the internet has allowed enterprising Japanese studios to set up a shell company in the US and then sell uncensored videos online. It's not that hard to find these days if you put in a bit of effort.

So why won't it become widespread? Because in a country as politically conservative as Japan, you're never going to find a brave Diet member who stands up and declares that he wants easier access to naughty bits. He'd probably be accused of trying to keep Japan's gruesomely low birthrate down.

Mentalpatient87: Okay, I'm not a Godzilla fan and the 2000 one came out when I was pretty young, so I don't understand. Can someone (calmly) explain what was so objectively bad and why the other ones were so much better? Because honestly, just about anything I've seen out of the original studio looks like a Japanese Troma movie.


It's not my scene, but fans of tokusatsu (the Japanese word for FX, which covers series like Godzilla, Ultraman, Kamen Rider etc) have this combination of an appreciation of practical effects (actual rubber suits, elaborate model cities, etc), and a sort of cheesy nostalgia for the shows they enjoyed as a kid. So they grow up and they continue to enjoy the exact same thing, and to hell with anyone who wants to modernize it.
 
2014-05-12 11:30:46 AM  
Here's the thing, Japan. Godzilla movies are terrible. They're awesome at being terrible though so they have a fanbase.
 
2014-05-12 11:33:06 AM  

Gunny Highway: Barricaded Gunman: FTA: "I hope the day will come when a Japanese director can make a Godzilla movie again for the world," he said.

WTF, is "the world" really clamoring for another Godzilla remake? How many different times do they need to tell this story?

As many as possible.  Godzilla movies are awesome.


Seriously? They inspire awe?
 
2014-05-12 11:34:49 AM  

dokool: It's not my scene, but fans of tokusatsu (the Japanese word for FX, which covers series like Godzilla, Ultraman, Kamen Rider etc) have this combination of an appreciation of practical effects (actual rubber suits, elaborate model cities, etc), and a sort of cheesy nostalgia for the shows they enjoyed as a kid. So they grow up and they continue to enjoy the exact same thing, and to hell with anyone who wants to modernize it.


So, it sounds like when I said "Japanese Troma" I was on the right track. Right? Godzilla is just the JP version of the Toxic Avenger.
 
2014-05-12 11:36:24 AM  

Barricaded Gunman: Gunny Highway: Barricaded Gunman: FTA: "I hope the day will come when a Japanese director can make a Godzilla movie again for the world," he said.

WTF, is "the world" really clamoring for another Godzilla remake? How many different times do they need to tell this story?

As many as possible.  Godzilla movies are awesome.

Seriously? They inspire awe?


zenecho.com
 
2014-05-12 11:50:27 AM  

Mentalpatient87: Okay, I'm not a Godzilla fan and the 2000 one came out when I was pretty young, so I don't understand. Can someone (calmly) explain what was so objectively bad and why the other ones were so much better? Because honestly, just about anything I've seen out of the original studio looks like a Japanese Troma movie.


It's misguided sentiment, especially in regard to the Emmerich movie. Yes it was bad. What do you expect, Kurosawa?

After the first 2-3 movies, Godzilla changed and started getting campier. Don't forget, in later films he flew by using his breath as a jet engine. Then they introduced Son of Godzilla, where dad taught Jr. how to breathe fire by stomping on his tail. Gareth Edwards didn't fall for the camp trap. He made a seriously scary, badass zilla and people whose sentiment is stronger than their memories are having tantrums over a movie they haven't farking seen yet.

And don't think for a minute the Japanese have to do it to do it right. They made a lot of shiatty Godzilla films and they also pooched their own material. The live action 'Space Battleship Yamato' (or 'Starblazers' to some Americans) was atrocious and the upcoming live action 'Kiki's Delivery Service' sounds like a disgrace to Miyazaki.

Sentiment always makes things better than they actually were. I used to be seriously sentimental about the old 'Thunderbirds' series. Then they came out on DVD and I realized they were best left to my childhood.
 
2014-05-12 11:54:01 AM  
I'll always have a fondness for Godzilla movies because I was a kid before cable TV was a thing. I'd come home from school, and there would be a Godzilla movie (or Planet of the Apes movie, or Universal monster movie) on at 4:30 PM every day on one of the three local channels... After cartoons and before the local news.

So I watched them all. As a kid my favorite was Godzila versus Megalon, because dammit I thought Jet Jaguar was cooooool! As an adult I see he was cheesy as hell, but back then he was awesome. We used to mimic the fights in that movies, and all the kids argued over who got to be Jet Jaguar, Godzilla, and Gigan.

Nobody wanted to be Magalon... And when we did a full-on monster battle with all monsters available to choose from, NOBODY ever picked Hedora. Also, being Anguirus was hard because you had to crawl all the time.

/They also played the old Flash Gordon serials and reruns of Gilligan's Island and 1960's Batman.
 
2014-05-12 11:55:36 AM  
mEgalon
 
2014-05-12 11:58:34 AM  

Mentalpatient87: dokool: It's not my scene, but fans of tokusatsu (the Japanese word for FX, which covers series like Godzilla, Ultraman, Kamen Rider etc) have this combination of an appreciation of practical effects (actual rubber suits, elaborate model cities, etc), and a sort of cheesy nostalgia for the shows they enjoyed as a kid. So they grow up and they continue to enjoy the exact same thing, and to hell with anyone who wants to modernize it.

So, it sounds like when I said "Japanese Troma" I was on the right track. Right? Godzilla is just the JP version of the Toxic Avenger.


You're just too young to know, is all. You  grew up in a world where CGI was already here and doing cool things. Those of us who were around, watching monster movies before computers were used to make them, were pretty impressed  at the time  when practical effects made a giant lizard able to smash Tokyo.

You just had to be there.
 
2014-05-12 12:11:28 PM  
"As Japanese continue to loudly disapprove of Gareth Edwards' Godzilla, Toho executive admits that if his studio ever makes a new Godzilla movie, they will ditch the rubber suit and use similar CGI to render him"

As Japanese.... lunatics, retards, scientists, porn stars, etc.  don't leave me hanging here.
 
2014-05-12 12:35:38 PM  
 
2014-05-12 12:59:13 PM  

Barricaded Gunman: Gunny Highway: Barricaded Gunman: FTA: "I hope the day will come when a Japanese director can make a Godzilla movie again for the world," he said.

WTF, is "the world" really clamoring for another Godzilla remake? How many different times do they need to tell this story?

As many as possible.  Godzilla movies are awesome.

Seriously? They inspire awe?


Semantic change. Seriously.

A new low for Fark.com.
 
2014-05-12 01:06:34 PM  
Gee, I wonder why the Japanese would have hang ups when the Americans remake one of Japan's most important anti-nuclear pieces of art. I wonder why that could be...
 
2014-05-12 01:26:59 PM  
Gunny Highway:   Semantic change. Seriously.

ScottyDoesn'tKnow: pedant.pdf


Not being intentionally pedantic, just genuinely baffled how anyone - anyone - can enjoy a Godzilla movie beyond the age of 7 or 8. In what way is any Godzilla movie any better than any episode of UltraMan, or any episode of  Johnny Socko and His Flying Robot? Same crap acting, same weak special effects, same basic plotline of giant monsters fighting.

Hell, I enjoy the Three Stooges, but at least they mix it up a little... sometimes they're plumbers, sometimes they're doctors, sometimes they're hobos. But Godzilla movies? Same tired old dreck every time.
 
2014-05-12 01:27:28 PM  

Trocadero: Gee, I wonder why the Japanese would have hang ups when the Americans remake one of Japan's most important anti-nuclear pieces of art. I wonder why that could be...


Maybe because an anti-nuclear piece of art is the opposite of what some of them want.

On one hand: "[director Gareth] Edwards says he grew up watching Godzilla films and has great respect for their deeper meaning, such as raising questions about nuclear weapons."

And on the other: "Yumiko Yamashiata, 40, a welfare worker, thinks Godzilla must be lovable".

There's no pleasing everybody.
 
2014-05-12 01:33:43 PM  

Trocadero: Gee, I wonder why the Japanese would have hang ups when the Americans remake one of Japan's most important anti-nuclear pieces of art. I wonder why that could be...


Godzilla hasn't been an anti-nuclear work since the 50's though, so I really don't think that's the problem anyone is having here.
 
2014-05-12 01:34:30 PM  

Nix Nightbird: Mentalpatient87: dokool: It's not my scene, but fans of tokusatsu (the Japanese word for FX, which covers series like Godzilla, Ultraman, Kamen Rider etc) have this combination of an appreciation of practical effects (actual rubber suits, elaborate model cities, etc), and a sort of cheesy nostalgia for the shows they enjoyed as a kid. So they grow up and they continue to enjoy the exact same thing, and to hell with anyone who wants to modernize it.

So, it sounds like when I said "Japanese Troma" I was on the right track. Right? Godzilla is just the JP version of the Toxic Avenger.

You're just too young to know, is all. You  grew up in a world where CGI was already here and doing cool things. Those of us who were around, watching monster movies before computers were used to make them, were pretty impressed  at the time  when practical effects made a giant lizard able to smash Tokyo.

You just had to be there.


Kind of this. I'm 35, so I'm sort of in between when Model effects were still cool, and when Jurassic Park came and blew our minds. But I can't think of anyone I grew up with who DIDN'T see a model train set and immediately wanted to dress up in a Godzilla suit and stomp that shiat.
 
2014-05-12 01:41:23 PM  

Barricaded Gunman: Gunny Highway:   Semantic change. Seriously.

ScottyDoesn'tKnow: pedant.pdf


Not being intentionally pedantic, just genuinely baffled how anyone - anyone - can enjoy a Godzilla movie beyond the age of 7 or 8. In what way is any Godzilla movie any better than any episode of UltraMan, or any episode of  Johnny Socko and His Flying Robot? Same crap acting, same weak special effects, same basic plotline of giant monsters fighting.

Hell, I enjoy the Three Stooges, but at least they mix it up a little... sometimes they're plumbers, sometimes they're doctors, sometimes they're hobos. But Godzilla movies? Same tired old dreck every time.


And yet here I am enjoying the movies.
 
2014-05-12 02:42:33 PM  

Barricaded Gunman: FTA: "I hope the day will come when a Japanese director can make a Godzilla movie again for the world," he said.

WTF, is "the world" really clamoring for another Godzilla remake? How many different times do they need to tell this story?


All of them. All movies will now be Godzilla movies. Avengers 3, Avengers Vs. Godzilla, Generic Rom Com #235465990, I love Godzilla,Generic family comedy #4958302398,  Meet the Godzillas, all movies all Godzilla all the time.
 
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