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(NPR)   That beloved song played by ice cream trucks? Yeah, it's racist   ( npr.org) divider line
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2014-05-11 11:54:12 PM  
9 votes:
So, if I understand this article correctly...that means I can get watermelon ice cream?
2014-05-11 11:50:42 PM  
7 votes:
#boycotticecream

There. I solved the problem forever.
2014-05-12 03:46:57 AM  
6 votes:
Everytime I see the words "Minstrel Show" I get visions of women on their period doing performance art.
2014-05-12 03:27:18 AM  
5 votes:

gopher321: Well, thanks research guy. I never considered 'Turkey In the Straw' racist and hateful until now. Next time I have a rocky road double scoop, I'll call the NAACP first to ask if it's ok.


So it's okay when I only give the guy $3 for the $5 chocolate sundae?
2014-05-12 05:18:00 AM  
4 votes:
images.sodahead.com
2014-05-12 03:51:37 AM  
4 votes:
On top of old smokey is really about school shootings

On top of old smokey
all covered with blood
I shot my poor teacher
with a 44 slug
I went to her funeral
I went to her grave
everybody threw flowers
I threw a grenade
2014-05-12 05:38:18 AM  
3 votes:
Ice cream trucks, they sing this song:
Doo-dah!
Doo-dah!
Sellin' ice cream all day long
Oh, doo-dah day!
Goin' to freeze all night
Goin' to roam all day
They never ran a background check
You'd better stay away
2014-05-12 04:35:13 AM  
3 votes:
I knew of an ice cream truck that played the music of Jean-Baptiste Lully. One day though, by a tragic coincidence, the operator dropped a pointed sugar cone on his foot, and died five days later from gangrene.
2014-05-12 03:53:05 AM  
3 votes:
Joy to the world is really about cannibalism

Joy to the world, the teacher's dead
we barbecued her head!
What happened to the body?
We flushed it down the potty!
And round and round it went,
and round and round it went
and rouuund and round and round it went
2014-05-12 03:44:51 AM  
3 votes:
I never heard of the watermelon song until now and I hadn't heard it until a few minutes ago after reading the article and then going to youtube.
Catchy tune.

I wish ice cream trucks would play "fark the police" instead, however.
2014-05-12 02:15:50 AM  
3 votes:

Aarontology: #boycotticecream

There. I solved the problem forever.


Almost. You're one shoop away.
2014-05-12 12:19:33 AM  
3 votes:

That Guy What Stole the Bacon: dahmers love zombie: OK, so because some racist asswipe took "Turkey In The Straw" and wrote offensive lyrics for it, that's what all the ice cream trucks are playing?

I think I may possibly need a bit more evidence.  Like if the first ice cream trucks to play the song played it with the "N*gger Love a Watermelon" lyrics included, and if someone posts a video of that.  Then I'll buy the concept.  Otherwise, it's "Turkey in the Straw".  Which is weird-ass enough for an ice cream truck.

THIS.

In high school, they brought in a very angry lady to talk to (read: shout at) us about sexism in the media. I will never forget how she showed us a series of "Got Milk?" ads (you know, the milk moustache ones) and then, sly grin on her face, showed us a, shall we say, pornographically-influenced parody ad that left very little to the imagination. She spent the next ten minutes explaining to us that milk ads were really just money shot jokes and that we should all be ashamed of ourselves for not realizing this sooner and that milk is basically a misogynistic racket.

I wish I could say that even a small fraction of that was made up.

/yeah, yeah... csb...


Heh...in my copy classes in college we did an entire section on "foods with dipping sauce" advertisements. Every single one was supposedly some kind of phallic symbol with a money shot.  Before that class I never even thought about it. But now? It's all that I can picture when i see one. That class turned my mind into a perverted mess!
2014-05-11 11:31:50 PM  
3 votes:
wait, let me laugh even harder.
2014-05-12 10:14:40 AM  
2 votes:
I always thought it was just my local ice cream truck played Skrewdriver...
2014-05-12 08:25:36 AM  
2 votes:
And the most racist version of all . . .

img.fark.net

. . . he wearing white face!

/ they have wonderfully racist clam chowder there . . .
2014-05-12 08:18:38 AM  
2 votes:
I've always wondered how problematic it might be, having turkeys in the straw. Was it such a commonplace difficulty that someone could write a song about it?
*person listens to song, chuckles* "Aw, yeah. Them turkeys, alright. Always causing trouble with the straw."
2014-05-12 07:37:01 AM  
2 votes:
static.commercialmotor.com

I take it Mr Whippy franchises aren't going to expand into the US anytime soon.
2014-05-12 07:29:06 AM  
2 votes:
Where I live they play 'Greensleeves' and it's traditional for fathers to tell their kids that "they only play that music when they run out of ice cream," before cracking open another beer  and settling down to watch the cricket for the rest of the day.
2014-05-12 06:14:22 AM  
2 votes:
www.dharbin.com
2014-05-12 05:01:03 AM  
2 votes:

Iczer: The Entertainer is racist?!?


www.nashvillescene.com
2014-05-12 04:24:08 AM  
2 votes:
The one in my neighborhood plays "The Entertainer", written by renowned KKK grand wizard  Scott Joplin.
2014-05-12 04:08:15 AM  
2 votes:
"Turkey in the Straw" is also the underlying melody for "Do Your Boobs Hang Low?"

/just sayin'
2014-05-12 03:58:40 AM  
2 votes:
I don't care if it's racist or not. All I know is by June, I will so sick of that song I'll be tempted to get on the roof of my apartment with a rifle and go all Texas Book Depository on the Ice Cream Man's ass.

/live across the street from a park
//hear this song non-stop for about 5 months a year
2014-05-12 03:32:59 AM  
2 votes:
If you know it as "the ice cream truck song" and not "that racist version of turkey in the straw", you're not really perpetuating racism then are you?  You are responding to conditioning that makes you dash for your wallet and out to the street and there's nothing racist about green money.  Unless you're a frog offended at that association.  Or a pig, desperately in love with a frog who might be offended.  Though I always felt Ms. Piggy was a bit of a gold digger anyway.
2014-05-12 03:31:36 AM  
2 votes:
Local ice cream trucks around here play Pop Goes the Weasel a lot. (Damn racist monkey.)
2014-05-12 03:30:11 AM  
2 votes:
it's cool, the ice cream man is taking it back.
2014-05-12 03:27:48 AM  
2 votes:

TommyymmoT: Mary blew a little lamb.


go on....
2014-05-12 03:18:49 AM  
2 votes:
You know what Attractive and successful African Americans like? Deep fried turkey in the straw.

They also love watermelon. Don't be casting no aspersions. Watermelon is delicious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-eitsutpOc
2014-05-12 01:49:09 AM  
2 votes:

TommyymmoT: Mary blew a little lamb.


Jack and Jill went up the hill, each with a buck and a quarter.
Jill came back with two-fifty.

OH!!
2014-05-12 12:14:23 AM  
2 votes:

dahmers love zombie: OK, so because some racist asswipe took "Turkey In The Straw" and wrote offensive lyrics for it, that's what all the ice cream trucks are playing?

I think I may possibly need a bit more evidence.  Like if the first ice cream trucks to play the song played it with the "N*gger Love a Watermelon" lyrics included, and if someone posts a video of that.  Then I'll buy the concept.  Otherwise, it's "Turkey in the Straw".  Which is weird-ass enough for an ice cream truck.


THIS.
 Any one of us could probably come up with offensive lyrics to damned near anything.
Mary blew a little lamb.
2014-05-11 11:52:00 PM  
2 votes:
OK, so because some racist asswipe took "Turkey In The Straw" and wrote offensive lyrics for it, that's what all the ice cream trucks are playing?

I think I may possibly need a bit more evidence.  Like if the first ice cream trucks to play the song played it with the "N*gger Love a Watermelon" lyrics included, and if someone posts a video of that.  Then I'll buy the concept.  Otherwise, it's "Turkey in the Straw".  Which is weird-ass enough for an ice cream truck.
2014-05-12 04:27:50 PM  
1 vote:

Rex Kramer - Danger Seeker: Wow, sorry to hear that you were a slave slept through your history classes and didn't learn a goddamn thing, that must have sucked


just for you
2014-05-12 02:53:17 PM  
1 vote:

Aigoo: Here's a thought: when you become so focused on your own "victimhood," you become what you claim to hate. Stop being a victim. Stop being the problem. Be the solution.


Yeah, it's all black peoples fault. Jim Crow, segregation, slavery, beating, lynchings, job/loan discrimination... yup, we did it all to ourselves. On purpose. Really truly.
Some idiot decides to be an asshole to me because of the color of my skin, how the fark am I supposed to "solve" that short of kicking them in the mouth? I suppose you're going to tell us to "stop hitting ourselves" next.

Another example of someone who refuses to see the problem because "it ain't them". "Be the solution"... moron.
2014-05-12 01:14:03 PM  
1 vote:
1.bp.blogspot.com

hey guys, has anyone posted this yet?
2014-05-12 11:51:11 AM  
1 vote:

mike_d85: Lokkii: Uhm, this guy did little research and made a lot of assumptions.

This link is to a PDF and I can't pull quotes from it.

http://web.archive.org/web/20090205035547/http://homepages.nyu.edu/~ dt n2008/NeelySoftServe.pdf

However, fundamentally, his theory is bullshiat.

Apples and Oranges.  That PDF (which I highly recommend others read btw) is exploring the technology and business strategy behind the music (and also explains the dozens of other songs used).  What TFA is trying to convey is the particular connection of the melody of "Turkey in the Straw" to ice cream.  Argument being that the music played in late Victorian ice cream parlors (mentioned in your PDF) were tunes made popular from contemporary performances which just so happened to be racist as fark.

That particular tune being used to recall nostalgia from music boxes in late Victorian ice cream parlors (also noted in the article as being pioneered by Good Humor of California) would have been almost entirely associated with the racist minstrel pieces.  Plus, that particular racist tune had a call and respond related to ice cream which would have made it more likely to be played at an ice cream parlor.


No, he's right.  According to this essay, written by an ethnomusicologist, no less, ice cream parlors had all kinds of popular music being played in them, and where an early site for coin operated jukeboxes.


The choice of music for ice cream trucks was specifically a) ice cream oriented b)written by the ice cream vendors c)recognizable orchestral snippets(e.g. Tannhauser, from the article) or d)kiddie music, which, by the time Turkey in the Straw became popular for trucks, it most certainly was. It's been a kid's campfire song for probably close to a century now in the Northeast


The alternative is everyone in America selling ice cream out of trucks in the 60s and 70s collectively decided that they needed to find that one song about n**gers and watermelon they might have heard their grandad sing before he died and make it into a coded statement about making fun of black people and tie it to the traveling ice cream industry.


But the MOST IMPORTANT part of the ice cream music is that it was chimes, because chimes make us happy. the tune is not important. It's arbitrary. So if all you can think of when you here Turkey in the Straw is a single racist novelty song from the olden days, you have only yourself to blame.


This is now officially, thoroughly, debunked. Class A garbage reporting and evidence of nothing more than pure shiftless laziness on the part of the writer.
2014-05-12 11:48:34 AM  
1 vote:
In my neighborhood, the Ice Cream Truck just plays a recording of this guy:
i1.ytimg.com
2014-05-12 10:47:44 AM  
1 vote:
160 comments and not one post of this?

i536.photobucket.com
2014-05-12 10:40:49 AM  
1 vote:
Is it racist if I sing "Do your [whatever] hang low", when the truck goes by?
2014-05-12 10:26:56 AM  
1 vote:
I can't believe no one's mentioned that Jingle Bells is actually about Batman's poor hygiene
2014-05-12 10:12:59 AM  
1 vote:

FarkaDark: So if I get this straight, anything associated with racism is forever tinged. Why stop at the song? Then no more trading cars, ice cream trucks, music, actors etc. But were good with rappers, ghetto dwellers and prefessional athletes throwing around nubian$ word.


It's basically a way for the parents to let loose the kids of war for a few minutes.  They might get tired for 30 minutes after that.

Or I assume it's a way since I was one of the kids handed a few dollars by my stressed parents, then ran down the street waving the money like a flag in order to take the ice cream hostage.
2014-05-12 09:58:47 AM  
1 vote:
The ice cream truck in my neighborhood plays Dixie, so this whole racist song thing isn't a problem...
2014-05-12 09:10:46 AM  
1 vote:

Hermione_Granger: ILoveBurritos: Huh, the I've creams trucks around here played "The Entertainer"

Most trucks around here play that too. But when I was growing up they used to play the Turkey in the Straw song. One summer they quit and most trucks play some other nameless tune.

Dear White People,

I know you all think that anyone who brings up the racist history behind a lot of things is overstating things greatly. However I think any reasonable human being would also give credence to the converse: That maybe white people understate racism and the impact that history has on the present.

You think you're walking around as a white person, an individual - with no connection to a past that has anything to do with racist thought or behavior. Yet, if many of you examine your lives, and you're honest, you will find that your interactions with people of color are superficial at best. Even more, you would complete eschew any contact with people of color if you could.

I also think white people underestimate how much hurt these things cause black people. Even the most enlightened white people remain brutally and callously uncaring about the every day hurt black people feel when they encounter racist and discriminatory behavior from white people.

It's as if the entire country hung out a Welcome to Fark sign back in the 1700's. This country was built on the lie and the evil that only the thoughts, feelings and lives of white people matter.

That is truly, insidiously evil, especially in the way it works it's way down to even something that should be as benign as buying ice cream.


How the hell did you stray away from tumblr?
2014-05-12 08:37:57 AM  
1 vote:

Betep: Pop Goes the Weasel?
It's about Lesbians.


Right, and next you'll be telling me that Puff the Magic Dragon is about pot.
2014-05-12 08:19:30 AM  
1 vote:
Pop Goes the Weasel?
It's about Lesbians.
2014-05-12 07:44:41 AM  
1 vote:

lewismarktwo: Enni Minni Miney Moe...


At least there's still One Potato, Two Potato- aww, f*cking Irish.
2014-05-12 07:36:40 AM  
1 vote:
"Mommy, can I have some ice cream?"

"NO. Ice cream is racist, because early American ice cream parlors played racist minstrel show tunes to lure in customers. Enlightened folk only eat foods with no connection to historical injustice."

"... Mommy, mayn't we even live in America, seeing as it was built by slaves? On lands emptied by genocide?"

"Indeed we may dear, provided we spend every waking moment feeling profound shame and spreading misery to all we meet.  It is the only way,"
2014-05-12 07:34:25 AM  
1 vote:
The ice cream truck in our neighborhood plays WaKko's America.
2014-05-12 06:49:40 AM  
1 vote:
Oldiron_79:   Hey, whats going on in this thread?

Oh you know.  Fark outrage over nothing.  As usual.
2014-05-12 06:07:24 AM  
1 vote:
Yes, racism is bad - but,
i18.photobucket.com
2014-05-12 05:39:40 AM  
1 vote:
You know, the song that directly mentions ice cream might have more of a chance to be the ice cream song than one about turkeys and straw...

Just sayin
2014-05-12 05:18:08 AM  
1 vote:
♫♪ Do your balls hang low?
Do they swing to and fro?
Can you tie 'em in a knot?
Can you tie 'em in a bow?
Can you throw 'em over your shoulder like a continental soldier?
Do your balls hang low?  ♫♪
2014-05-12 04:56:33 AM  
1 vote:
The Entertainer is racist?!?
2014-05-12 04:22:38 AM  
1 vote:

That Guy What Stole the Bacon: dahmers love zombie: OK, so because some racist asswipe took "Turkey In The Straw" and wrote offensive lyrics for it, that's what all the ice cream trucks are playing?

I think I may possibly need a bit more evidence.  Like if the first ice cream trucks to play the song played it with the "N*gger Love a Watermelon" lyrics included, and if someone posts a video of that.  Then I'll buy the concept.  Otherwise, it's "Turkey in the Straw".  Which is weird-ass enough for an ice cream truck.

THIS.

In high school, they brought in a very angry lady to talk to (read: shout at) us about sexism in the media. I will never forget how she showed us a series of "Got Milk?" ads (you know, the milk moustache ones) and then, sly grin on her face, showed us a, shall we say, pornographically-influenced parody ad that left very little to the imagination. She spent the next ten minutes explaining to us that milk ads were really just money shot jokes and that we should all be ashamed of ourselves for not realizing this sooner and that milk is basically a misogynistic racket.

I wish I could say that even a small fraction of that was made up.

/yeah, yeah... csb...


 You mean to tell me that the Got Milk ads  aren't money shot jokes snuck past an unwitting audience?
2014-05-12 04:20:21 AM  
1 vote:

ILoveBurritos: Huh, the I've creams trucks around here played "The Entertainer"


Hmmmm, that is sort of minstrel flavored in a ragtime way.
2014-05-12 04:07:19 AM  
1 vote:

Lorelle: In my neighborhood, the ice cream truck played "Sailing, Sailing"/"Sinbad the Sailor."


For some reason that came out in my head as 'Barnacle Bill the Sailor'. That would be the best ice cream man ever.
2014-05-12 03:31:02 AM  
1 vote:
Enni Minni Miney Moe...
2014-05-12 12:49:52 AM  
1 vote:
Well, thanks research guy. I never considered 'Turkey In the Straw' racist and hateful until now. Next time I have a rocky road double scoop, I'll call the NAACP first to ask if it's ok.
2014-05-12 12:02:23 AM  
1 vote:

dahmers love zombie: OK, so because some racist asswipe took "Turkey In The Straw" and wrote offensive lyrics for it, that's what all the ice cream trucks are playing?

I think I may possibly need a bit more evidence.  Like if the first ice cream trucks to play the song played it with the "N*gger Love a Watermelon" lyrics included, and if someone posts a video of that.  Then I'll buy the concept.  Otherwise, it's "Turkey in the Straw".  Which is weird-ass enough for an ice cream truck.


THIS.

In high school, they brought in a very angry lady to talk to (read: shout at) us about sexism in the media. I will never forget how she showed us a series of "Got Milk?" ads (you know, the milk moustache ones) and then, sly grin on her face, showed us a, shall we say, pornographically-influenced parody ad that left very little to the imagination. She spent the next ten minutes explaining to us that milk ads were really just money shot jokes and that we should all be ashamed of ourselves for not realizing this sooner and that milk is basically a misogynistic racket.

I wish I could say that even a small fraction of that was made up.

/yeah, yeah... csb...
 
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