gopher321: Well, thanks research guy. I never considered 'Turkey In the Straw' racist and hateful until now. Next time I have a rocky road double scoop, I'll call the NAACP first to ask if it's ok.
Aarontology: #boycotticecreamThere. I solved the problem forever.
That Guy What Stole the Bacon: dahmers love zombie: OK, so because some racist asswipe took "Turkey In The Straw" and wrote offensive lyrics for it, that's what all the ice cream trucks are playing?I think I may possibly need a bit more evidence. Like if the first ice cream trucks to play the song played it with the "N*gger Love a Watermelon" lyrics included, and if someone posts a video of that. Then I'll buy the concept. Otherwise, it's "Turkey in the Straw". Which is weird-ass enough for an ice cream truck.THIS.In high school, they brought in a very angry lady to talk to (read: shout at) us about sexism in the media. I will never forget how she showed us a series of "Got Milk?" ads (you know, the milk moustache ones) and then, sly grin on her face, showed us a, shall we say, pornographically-influenced parody ad that left very little to the imagination. She spent the next ten minutes explaining to us that milk ads were really just money shot jokes and that we should all be ashamed of ourselves for not realizing this sooner and that milk is basically a misogynistic racket.I wish I could say that even a small fraction of that was made up./yeah, yeah... csb...
Iczer: The Entertainer is racist?!?
TommyymmoT: Mary blew a little lamb.
dahmers love zombie: OK, so because some racist asswipe took "Turkey In The Straw" and wrote offensive lyrics for it, that's what all the ice cream trucks are playing?I think I may possibly need a bit more evidence. Like if the first ice cream trucks to play the song played it with the "N*gger Love a Watermelon" lyrics included, and if someone posts a video of that. Then I'll buy the concept. Otherwise, it's "Turkey in the Straw". Which is weird-ass enough for an ice cream truck.
Rex Kramer - Danger Seeker: Wow, sorry to hear that you were a slave slept through your history classes and didn't learn a goddamn thing, that must have sucked
Aigoo: Here's a thought: when you become so focused on your own "victimhood," you become what you claim to hate. Stop being a victim. Stop being the problem. Be the solution.
mike_d85: Lokkii: Uhm, this guy did little research and made a lot of assumptions.This link is to a PDF and I can't pull quotes from it.http://web.archive.org/web/20090205035547/http://homepages.nyu.edu/~ dt n2008/NeelySoftServe.pdfHowever, fundamentally, his theory is bullshiat.Apples and Oranges. That PDF (which I highly recommend others read btw) is exploring the technology and business strategy behind the music (and also explains the dozens of other songs used). What TFA is trying to convey is the particular connection of the melody of "Turkey in the Straw" to ice cream. Argument being that the music played in late Victorian ice cream parlors (mentioned in your PDF) were tunes made popular from contemporary performances which just so happened to be racist as fark.That particular tune being used to recall nostalgia from music boxes in late Victorian ice cream parlors (also noted in the article as being pioneered by Good Humor of California) would have been almost entirely associated with the racist minstrel pieces. Plus, that particular racist tune had a call and respond related to ice cream which would have made it more likely to be played at an ice cream parlor.
FarkaDark: So if I get this straight, anything associated with racism is forever tinged. Why stop at the song? Then no more trading cars, ice cream trucks, music, actors etc. But were good with rappers, ghetto dwellers and prefessional athletes throwing around nubian$ word.
Hermione_Granger: ILoveBurritos: Huh, the I've creams trucks around here played "The Entertainer"Most trucks around here play that too. But when I was growing up they used to play the Turkey in the Straw song. One summer they quit and most trucks play some other nameless tune.Dear White People,I know you all think that anyone who brings up the racist history behind a lot of things is overstating things greatly. However I think any reasonable human being would also give credence to the converse: That maybe white people understate racism and the impact that history has on the present.You think you're walking around as a white person, an individual - with no connection to a past that has anything to do with racist thought or behavior. Yet, if many of you examine your lives, and you're honest, you will find that your interactions with people of color are superficial at best. Even more, you would complete eschew any contact with people of color if you could.I also think white people underestimate how much hurt these things cause black people. Even the most enlightened white people remain brutally and callously uncaring about the every day hurt black people feel when they encounter racist and discriminatory behavior from white people.It's as if the entire country hung out a Welcome to Fark sign back in the 1700's. This country was built on the lie and the evil that only the thoughts, feelings and lives of white people matter.That is truly, insidiously evil, especially in the way it works it's way down to even something that should be as benign as buying ice cream.
Betep: Pop Goes the Weasel?It's about Lesbians.
lewismarktwo: Enni Minni Miney Moe...
ILoveBurritos: Huh, the I've creams trucks around here played "The Entertainer"
Lorelle: In my neighborhood, the ice cream truck played "Sailing, Sailing"/"Sinbad the Sailor."
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