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2014-05-11 11:31:50 PM  
wait, let me laugh even harder.
 
2014-05-11 11:41:17 PM  
 
2014-05-11 11:50:42 PM  
#boycotticecream

There. I solved the problem forever.
 
2014-05-11 11:52:00 PM  
OK, so because some racist asswipe took "Turkey In The Straw" and wrote offensive lyrics for it, that's what all the ice cream trucks are playing?

I think I may possibly need a bit more evidence.  Like if the first ice cream trucks to play the song played it with the "N*gger Love a Watermelon" lyrics included, and if someone posts a video of that.  Then I'll buy the concept.  Otherwise, it's "Turkey in the Straw".  Which is weird-ass enough for an ice cream truck.
 
2014-05-11 11:54:12 PM  
So, if I understand this article correctly...that means I can get watermelon ice cream?
 
2014-05-12 12:02:23 AM  

dahmers love zombie: OK, so because some racist asswipe took "Turkey In The Straw" and wrote offensive lyrics for it, that's what all the ice cream trucks are playing?

I think I may possibly need a bit more evidence.  Like if the first ice cream trucks to play the song played it with the "N*gger Love a Watermelon" lyrics included, and if someone posts a video of that.  Then I'll buy the concept.  Otherwise, it's "Turkey in the Straw".  Which is weird-ass enough for an ice cream truck.


THIS.

In high school, they brought in a very angry lady to talk to (read: shout at) us about sexism in the media. I will never forget how she showed us a series of "Got Milk?" ads (you know, the milk moustache ones) and then, sly grin on her face, showed us a, shall we say, pornographically-influenced parody ad that left very little to the imagination. She spent the next ten minutes explaining to us that milk ads were really just money shot jokes and that we should all be ashamed of ourselves for not realizing this sooner and that milk is basically a misogynistic racket.

I wish I could say that even a small fraction of that was made up.

/yeah, yeah... csb...
 
2014-05-12 12:14:23 AM  

dahmers love zombie: OK, so because some racist asswipe took "Turkey In The Straw" and wrote offensive lyrics for it, that's what all the ice cream trucks are playing?

I think I may possibly need a bit more evidence.  Like if the first ice cream trucks to play the song played it with the "N*gger Love a Watermelon" lyrics included, and if someone posts a video of that.  Then I'll buy the concept.  Otherwise, it's "Turkey in the Straw".  Which is weird-ass enough for an ice cream truck.


THIS.
 Any one of us could probably come up with offensive lyrics to damned near anything.
Mary blew a little lamb.
 
2014-05-12 12:19:33 AM  

That Guy What Stole the Bacon: dahmers love zombie: OK, so because some racist asswipe took "Turkey In The Straw" and wrote offensive lyrics for it, that's what all the ice cream trucks are playing?

I think I may possibly need a bit more evidence.  Like if the first ice cream trucks to play the song played it with the "N*gger Love a Watermelon" lyrics included, and if someone posts a video of that.  Then I'll buy the concept.  Otherwise, it's "Turkey in the Straw".  Which is weird-ass enough for an ice cream truck.

THIS.

In high school, they brought in a very angry lady to talk to (read: shout at) us about sexism in the media. I will never forget how she showed us a series of "Got Milk?" ads (you know, the milk moustache ones) and then, sly grin on her face, showed us a, shall we say, pornographically-influenced parody ad that left very little to the imagination. She spent the next ten minutes explaining to us that milk ads were really just money shot jokes and that we should all be ashamed of ourselves for not realizing this sooner and that milk is basically a misogynistic racket.

I wish I could say that even a small fraction of that was made up.

/yeah, yeah... csb...


Heh...in my copy classes in college we did an entire section on "foods with dipping sauce" advertisements. Every single one was supposedly some kind of phallic symbol with a money shot.  Before that class I never even thought about it. But now? It's all that I can picture when i see one. That class turned my mind into a perverted mess!
 
2014-05-12 12:28:25 AM  

Tellingthem: That Guy What Stole the Bacon: dahmers love zombie: OK, so because some racist asswipe took "Turkey In The Straw" and wrote offensive lyrics for it, that's what all the ice cream trucks are playing?

I think I may possibly need a bit more evidence.  Like if the first ice cream trucks to play the song played it with the "N*gger Love a Watermelon" lyrics included, and if someone posts a video of that.  Then I'll buy the concept.  Otherwise, it's "Turkey in the Straw".  Which is weird-ass enough for an ice cream truck.

THIS.

In high school, they brought in a very angry lady to talk to (read: shout at) us about sexism in the media. I will never forget how she showed us a series of "Got Milk?" ads (you know, the milk moustache ones) and then, sly grin on her face, showed us a, shall we say, pornographically-influenced parody ad that left very little to the imagination. She spent the next ten minutes explaining to us that milk ads were really just money shot jokes and that we should all be ashamed of ourselves for not realizing this sooner and that milk is basically a misogynistic racket.

I wish I could say that even a small fraction of that was made up.

/yeah, yeah... csb...

Heh...in my copy classes in college we did an entire section on "foods with dipping sauce" advertisements. Every single one was supposedly some kind of phallic symbol with a money shot.  Before that class I never even thought about it. But now? It's all that I can picture when i see one. That class turned my mind into a perverted mess!


Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar...
 
2014-05-12 12:49:52 AM  
Well, thanks research guy. I never considered 'Turkey In the Straw' racist and hateful until now. Next time I have a rocky road double scoop, I'll call the NAACP first to ask if it's ok.
 
2014-05-12 01:32:52 AM  
In my neighborhood, the ice cream truck played "Sailing, Sailing"/"Sinbad the Sailor."
 
2014-05-12 01:49:09 AM  

TommyymmoT: Mary blew a little lamb.


Jack and Jill went up the hill, each with a buck and a quarter.
Jill came back with two-fifty.

OH!!
 
2014-05-12 02:15:50 AM  

Aarontology: #boycotticecream

There. I solved the problem forever.


Almost. You're one shoop away.
 
2014-05-12 03:18:49 AM  
You know what Attractive and successful African Americans like? Deep fried turkey in the straw.

They also love watermelon. Don't be casting no aspersions. Watermelon is delicious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-eitsutpOc
 
2014-05-12 03:27:18 AM  

gopher321: Well, thanks research guy. I never considered 'Turkey In the Straw' racist and hateful until now. Next time I have a rocky road double scoop, I'll call the NAACP first to ask if it's ok.


So it's okay when I only give the guy $3 for the $5 chocolate sundae?
 
2014-05-12 03:27:48 AM  

TommyymmoT: Mary blew a little lamb.


go on....
 
2014-05-12 03:27:59 AM  
Yeah I'm pretty sure everyone knows it as Turkey in the Straw.
 
2014-05-12 03:30:11 AM  
it's cool, the ice cream man is taking it back.
 
2014-05-12 03:30:47 AM  
I dunno...if the fact that 99% of the oppressors don't realize its a racist song...does it really matter?
 
2014-05-12 03:31:02 AM  
Enni Minni Miney Moe...
 
2014-05-12 03:31:36 AM  
Local ice cream trucks around here play Pop Goes the Weasel a lot. (Damn racist monkey.)
 
2014-05-12 03:32:59 AM  
If you know it as "the ice cream truck song" and not "that racist version of turkey in the straw", you're not really perpetuating racism then are you?  You are responding to conditioning that makes you dash for your wallet and out to the street and there's nothing racist about green money.  Unless you're a frog offended at that association.  Or a pig, desperately in love with a frog who might be offended.  Though I always felt Ms. Piggy was a bit of a gold digger anyway.
 
Skr
2014-05-12 03:35:45 AM  

lewismarktwo: Enni Minni Miney Moe...


catch a 'tiger' by the toe
 
2014-05-12 03:36:25 AM  
Idiots should have more appropriately played:  "Rich nubians in Paris".
 
2014-05-12 03:36:44 AM  
I'm pretty sure that melody has existed longer than those lyrics, but even if he's right and it's not:

If everyone forgot that the song is racist, to the point that nobody is offended by it, what purpose does it serve to dredge up the old lyrics? Yay, now a cute little melody is ruined and people that were previously not offended are.

"There is simply no divorcing the song from the dozens of decades it was almost exclusively used for coming up with new ways to ridicule, and profit from, black people."? Well, either the article is redundant trash telling people what they already knew, or that assertion is false because people didn't know about those decades.
 
2014-05-12 03:39:41 AM  
 
2014-05-12 03:44:51 AM  
I never heard of the watermelon song until now and I hadn't heard it until a few minutes ago after reading the article and then going to youtube.
Catchy tune.

I wish ice cream trucks would play "fark the police" instead, however.
 
2014-05-12 03:44:55 AM  
Hickory, Dickory, Doc,
This chick was suckin' my...
 
2014-05-12 03:46:57 AM  
Everytime I see the words "Minstrel Show" I get visions of women on their period doing performance art.
 
2014-05-12 03:51:37 AM  
On top of old smokey is really about school shootings

On top of old smokey
all covered with blood
I shot my poor teacher
with a 44 slug
I went to her funeral
I went to her grave
everybody threw flowers
I threw a grenade
 
2014-05-12 03:53:05 AM  
Joy to the world is really about cannibalism

Joy to the world, the teacher's dead
we barbecued her head!
What happened to the body?
We flushed it down the potty!
And round and round it went,
and round and round it went
and rouuund and round and round it went
 
mhd
2014-05-12 03:54:59 AM  
So this is the swastika of ad jingles?
 
2014-05-12 03:55:45 AM  

Mad_Radhu: Now... Vader, he's a spiritual brother, y'know, down with the force and all that good shiat. Then this cracker, Skywalker, gets his hands on a light saber and the boy decides he's gonna run the farkin' universe; gets a whole clan of whites together. And they go and bust up Vader's hood, the Death Star. Now what the fark do you call that?


Intergalactic civil war?


/somebody had to
 
2014-05-12 03:55:50 AM  
s3.amazonaws.com

After reading this thread, I think Garrett has the right musical response.
 
2014-05-12 03:56:46 AM  
Turkey in the Straw is Public Domain.  *THATS* why it's the "ice cream truck song" Period. End of story.  If trucks had to pay royalties, they'd be broke.
 
2014-05-12 03:58:40 AM  
I don't care if it's racist or not. All I know is by June, I will so sick of that song I'll be tempted to get on the roof of my apartment with a rifle and go all Texas Book Depository on the Ice Cream Man's ass.

/live across the street from a park
//hear this song non-stop for about 5 months a year
 
2014-05-12 04:01:02 AM  

Snarfangel: So, if I understand this article correctly...that means I can get watermelon ice cream?


I does so loves me that JOLLY RANCHER WATERMELON ICE

/seriously, if you haven't visited and ice cream truck lately give it a go.
 
v15
2014-05-12 04:06:20 AM  
The lyrics were written to an existing tune. This racist version was released by Columbia Records which is owned by Sony. Sister companies include Arista, RCA, BMG, Epic, CBS, etc. I would suggest the author of the article dropping his grievance because it is beyond ridiculous now.
 
2014-05-12 04:07:19 AM  

Lorelle: In my neighborhood, the ice cream truck played "Sailing, Sailing"/"Sinbad the Sailor."


For some reason that came out in my head as 'Barnacle Bill the Sailor'. That would be the best ice cream man ever.
 
2014-05-12 04:08:15 AM  
"Turkey in the Straw" is also the underlying melody for "Do Your Boobs Hang Low?"

/just sayin'
 
2014-05-12 04:16:51 AM  
Huh, the I've creams trucks around here played "The Entertainer"
 
2014-05-12 04:18:14 AM  

Frederick: TommyymmoT: Mary blew a little lamb.

go on....




Mary had a little sheep

And with the sheep she went to sleep

Mary had a little lamb


/ read on the bathroom wall in Jr High back in the 70's
 
2014-05-12 04:20:06 AM  
Reminds me of this.
 
2014-05-12 04:20:21 AM  

ILoveBurritos: Huh, the I've creams trucks around here played "The Entertainer"


Hmmmm, that is sort of minstrel flavored in a ragtime way.
 
2014-05-12 04:22:38 AM  

That Guy What Stole the Bacon: dahmers love zombie: OK, so because some racist asswipe took "Turkey In The Straw" and wrote offensive lyrics for it, that's what all the ice cream trucks are playing?

I think I may possibly need a bit more evidence.  Like if the first ice cream trucks to play the song played it with the "N*gger Love a Watermelon" lyrics included, and if someone posts a video of that.  Then I'll buy the concept.  Otherwise, it's "Turkey in the Straw".  Which is weird-ass enough for an ice cream truck.

THIS.

In high school, they brought in a very angry lady to talk to (read: shout at) us about sexism in the media. I will never forget how she showed us a series of "Got Milk?" ads (you know, the milk moustache ones) and then, sly grin on her face, showed us a, shall we say, pornographically-influenced parody ad that left very little to the imagination. She spent the next ten minutes explaining to us that milk ads were really just money shot jokes and that we should all be ashamed of ourselves for not realizing this sooner and that milk is basically a misogynistic racket.

I wish I could say that even a small fraction of that was made up.

/yeah, yeah... csb...


 You mean to tell me that the Got Milk ads  aren't money shot jokes snuck past an unwitting audience?
 
2014-05-12 04:24:08 AM  
The one in my neighborhood plays "The Entertainer", written by renowned KKK grand wizard  Scott Joplin.
 
2014-05-12 04:25:03 AM  
 
2014-05-12 04:35:13 AM  
I knew of an ice cream truck that played the music of Jean-Baptiste Lully. One day though, by a tragic coincidence, the operator dropped a pointed sugar cone on his foot, and died five days later from gangrene.
 
2014-05-12 04:50:35 AM  
So by the same twisted NPR liberturd logic since Joseph Haydn composed the music used for the Nazi anthem Deutschland Über Alles 1797 anyone listening to Haydn today is a Nazi. What a bunch of farking PC tards. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mZ8zUcg_Lks
 
2014-05-12 04:56:33 AM  
The Entertainer is racist?!?
 
2014-05-12 05:01:03 AM  

Iczer: The Entertainer is racist?!?


www.nashvillescene.com
 
2014-05-12 05:06:05 AM  
Things in the past need to stay in the past.  Otherwise you would not buy the Nissan Juke as in the past the common term for a whorehouse was a "Juke Joint" so the Nissan Juke is named after a whorehouse and that makes it a sin to buy it?  Give me a break.
 
2014-05-12 05:17:09 AM  

phojo1946: Things in the past need to stay in the past.  Otherwise you would not buy the Nissan Juke as in the past the common term for a whorehouse was a "Juke Joint" so the Nissan Juke is named after a whorehouse and that makes it a sin to buy it?  Give me a break.


Well, that was a wonderfully interesting, totally, made-up fact.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juke_joint
 
2014-05-12 05:18:00 AM  
images.sodahead.com
 
2014-05-12 05:18:08 AM  
♫♪ Do your balls hang low?
Do they swing to and fro?
Can you tie 'em in a knot?
Can you tie 'em in a bow?
Can you throw 'em over your shoulder like a continental soldier?
Do your balls hang low?  ♫♪
 
2014-05-12 05:18:55 AM  

The Southern Dandy: ♫♪ Do your balls hang low?
Do they swing to and fro?
Can you tie 'em in a knot?
Can you tie 'em in a bow?
Can you throw 'em over your shoulder like a continental soldier?
Do your balls hang low?  ♫♪


Yes, yes they do.
 
2014-05-12 05:26:59 AM  
Ours played "The Entertainer", so I'm less racist than ll of you.

rynthetyn: That Guy What Stole the Bacon: dahmers love zombie: OK, so because some racist asswipe took "Turkey In The Straw" and wrote offensive lyrics for it, that's what all the ice cream trucks are playing?

I think I may possibly need a bit more evidence.  Like if the first ice cream trucks to play the song played it with the "N*gger Love a Watermelon" lyrics included, and if someone posts a video of that.  Then I'll buy the concept.  Otherwise, it's "Turkey in the Straw".  Which is weird-ass enough for an ice cream truck.

THIS.

In high school, they brought in a very angry lady to talk to (read: shout at) us about sexism in the media. I will never forget how she showed us a series of "Got Milk?" ads (you know, the milk moustache ones) and then, sly grin on her face, showed us a, shall we say, pornographically-influenced parody ad that left very little to the imagination. She spent the next ten minutes explaining to us that milk ads were really just money shot jokes and that we should all be ashamed of ourselves for not realizing this sooner and that milk is basically a misogynistic racket.

I wish I could say that even a small fraction of that was made up.

/yeah, yeah... csb...

 You mean to tell me that the Got Milk ads  aren't money shot jokes snuck past an unwitting audience?


I hope not...
i.huffpost.com
 
2014-05-12 05:34:52 AM  
So this author was/is a USN officer, went to Harvard on line and spends his time sniffing out racism. Man up Nancy Boy.
 
2014-05-12 05:36:23 AM  
Dear Theodore R. Johnson, III
May I call you Theo?
"Yes, thank you.  I shall call you yoyo."
Would you like to make a good headline?
"Ok, how do I do that?"
Find something inane and commonly accepted.
"Oh, you mean maybe some piece of music that everyone knows?"
Sure, let's start with that.
"Uhmmmm  ok"
Now, call it racist!
"Oh . . . .  yeah . . . THAT'S RACIST!"
There you go son, now you made news!
Tahh daaaaa
 
2014-05-12 05:38:18 AM  
Ice cream trucks, they sing this song:
Doo-dah!
Doo-dah!
Sellin' ice cream all day long
Oh, doo-dah day!
Goin' to freeze all night
Goin' to roam all day
They never ran a background check
You'd better stay away
 
2014-05-12 05:39:40 AM  
You know, the song that directly mentions ice cream might have more of a chance to be the ice cream song than one about turkeys and straw...

Just sayin
 
2014-05-12 05:44:59 AM  

noazark: "Turkey in the Straw" is also the underlying melody for "Do Your Boobs Hang Low?"

/just sayin'


And when I was a boy scout some sixty years ago, we sang that song at camp outs with the lyrics "Do your ears hang low." Now I suppose all kids must quit singing that or be sexist or racist, depending on which version most offends.
 
2014-05-12 05:49:26 AM  
//Football is kinda racist too, I guess.
 
2014-05-12 05:54:16 AM  

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: Ours played "The Entertainer", so I'm less racist than ll of you.

rynthetyn: That Guy What Stole the Bacon: dahmers love zombie: OK, so because some racist asswipe took "Turkey In The Straw" and wrote offensive lyrics for it, that's what all the ice cream trucks are playing?

I think I may possibly need a bit more evidence.  Like if the first ice cream trucks to play the song played it with the "N*gger Love a Watermelon" lyrics included, and if someone posts a video of that.  Then I'll buy the concept.  Otherwise, it's "Turkey in the Straw".  Which is weird-ass enough for an ice cream truck.

THIS.

In high school, they brought in a very angry lady to talk to (read: shout at) us about sexism in the media. I will never forget how she showed us a series of "Got Milk?" ads (you know, the milk moustache ones) and then, sly grin on her face, showed us a, shall we say, pornographically-influenced parody ad that left very little to the imagination. She spent the next ten minutes explaining to us that milk ads were really just money shot jokes and that we should all be ashamed of ourselves for not realizing this sooner and that milk is basically a misogynistic racket.

I wish I could say that even a small fraction of that was made up.

/yeah, yeah... csb...

 You mean to tell me that the Got Milk ads  aren't money shot jokes snuck past an unwitting audience?

I hope not...


Priests drink milk, too.
 
2014-05-12 05:54:57 AM  

Mirandized: noazark: "Turkey in the Straw" is also the underlying melody for "Do Your Boobs Hang Low?"

/just sayin'

And when I was a boy scout some sixty years ago, we sang that song at camp outs with the lyrics "Do your ears hang low." Now I suppose all kids must quit singing that or be sexist or racist, depending on which version most offends.


Holy smokes Harvey!

60 years ago you were a Boy Scout?

What age does that make you today?

I'm just a cub compared to you.
 
2014-05-12 05:56:28 AM  
Around here the truck plays the other song that Irritates the hell out of me, HELLO!
 
2014-05-12 05:56:49 AM  

TommyymmoT: dahmers love zombie: OK, so because some racist asswipe took "Turkey In The Straw" and wrote offensive lyrics for it, that's what all the ice cream trucks are playing?

I think I may possibly need a bit more evidence.  Like if the first ice cream trucks to play the song played it with the "N*gger Love a Watermelon" lyrics included, and if someone posts a video of that.  Then I'll buy the concept.  Otherwise, it's "Turkey in the Straw".  Which is weird-ass enough for an ice cream truck.

THIS.
 Any one of us could probably come up with offensive lyrics to damned near anything.
Mary blew a little lamb.


Mary had a little lamb,
Her father shot it dead,
Now it goes to school with her
Between two cuts of bread.

But, damn that song is so over the top racist it's actually kind of funny. Hard to believe that was only 98 years ago.
 
2014-05-12 05:57:26 AM  
Late to the game but,


1. No ice cream truck I ever heard as a kid played that song.


2. Offensive lyrics are based on Turkey in the Straw, so it is not the tune that is offensive in any case


3. If you listen to the end you will hear some fine motorboating sounds.
 
2014-05-12 05:59:22 AM  
Just so I understand what I'm recapping....

If someone at any point made up offensive lyrics to any tune, as soon as it is known offensive lyrics were made up, that song is now immediately sexist/racist/homophobic/etc in all future playings.

Yoy........

FTFA:
"The first and natural inclination, of course, is to assume that the ice cream truck song is simply paying homage to "Turkey in the Straw," but the melody reached the nation only after it was appropriated by traveling blackface minstrel shows. There is simply no divorcing the song from the dozens of decades it was almost exclusively used for coming up with new ways to ridicule, and profit from, black people."

1.) Citation needed.
2.) In the modern era if everyone has forgotten that there ever were racist lyrics, then how can the song still be racist? (Also, music can't be racist, lyrics can be.)
3.) Is the plan here to actively teach people that there is a racist way to sing the song and we should never forget?
 
2014-05-12 06:01:33 AM  
Lot of a-holes on this thread, which yeah, yeah, welcome to Fark and all that.

He never said that the ice cream man is racist for having that tune (or ice cream companies for that matter) or to ban the use of that tune.  All he said was it was surprising or shocking to learn about the true origins of the tune - which is understandable.  It's an interesting bit of back history which I enjoyed reading.


OscarTamerz:  So by the same twisted NPR liberturd logic since Joseph Haydn composed the music used for the Nazi anthem Deutschland Über Alles 1797 anyone listening to Haydn today is a Nazi. What a bunch of farking PC tards.

Yeah, that was exactly the writer's point. If you buy an ice cream, you hate black people.  [rolls eyes]
 
2014-05-12 06:07:24 AM  
Yes, racism is bad - but,
i18.photobucket.com
 
2014-05-12 06:07:56 AM  

SirEattonHogg: He never said that the ice cream man is racist for having that tune (or ice cream companies for that matter) or to ban the use of that tune.  All he said was it was surprising or shocking to learn about the true origins of the tune - which is understandable.  It's an interesting bit of back history which I enjoyed reading.


Yeah, this.  Jesus guys not everything has an agenda.
 
2014-05-12 06:12:16 AM  

Biner: I don't care if it's racist or not. All I know is by June, I will so sick of that song I'll be tempted to get on the roof of my apartment with a rifle and go all Texas Book Depository on the Ice Cream Man's ass.

/live across the street from a park
//hear this song non-stop for about 5 months a year


Sell your house to a pedophile and move away then
 
2014-05-12 06:13:41 AM  

noazark: "Turkey in the Straw" is also the underlying melody for "Do Your Boobs Hang Low?"

/just sayin'


Until this post I wasn't sure what tune they were talking about. Never heard of Turkey in the Straw
 
2014-05-12 06:14:22 AM  
www.dharbin.com
 
2014-05-12 06:19:04 AM  
b0rg9:

"Sike"?
 
2014-05-12 06:38:41 AM  
All I know is music from farking ice cream trucks is farking annoying. I don't know how those drivers don't go insane.
 
2014-05-12 06:39:19 AM  

lionfish: Turkey in the Straw is Public Domain.  *THATS* why it's the "ice cream truck song" Period. End of story.  If trucks had to pay royalties, they'd be broke.


Well, yeah, but NPR is in the middle of their pledge drive. I love NPR, but that doesn't generate pledges like "the ice cream truck song is racist!"
 
2014-05-12 06:40:34 AM  
Hey, whats going on in this thread?
 
2014-05-12 06:46:06 AM  

ransack.: b0rg9:

"Sike"?


yeah, I balked at that too

Is turkey in the straw the same thing as farmer in the dell?
 
2014-05-12 06:47:58 AM  
If a racist asshole makes jokes in the woods and nobody hears, NOBODY CARES WORRY ABOUT CHILDREN GETTING BLOWN UP BY DRONES IN YEMEN

GODDAMN
 
2014-05-12 06:49:40 AM  
Oldiron_79:   Hey, whats going on in this thread?

Oh you know.  Fark outrage over nothing.  As usual.
 
2014-05-12 06:56:13 AM  
This is a distraction from the important issues of the day. Like Benghazi.
 
2014-05-12 06:58:56 AM  
A song can be racist, a tune can't be. Unless the ice-cream guy was singing it, it's just an instrumental.
 
2014-05-12 07:07:57 AM  
So does Good Humor have to sell their NBA franchise now?
 
2014-05-12 07:12:41 AM  
Greensleeves?

That's what they play around here.
 
2014-05-12 07:12:46 AM  

ransack.: b0rg9:

"Sike"?


3.bp.blogspot.com

Apparently, Eddie Murphy was a big Alien Nation fan... (Six years before it was released!)
 
2014-05-12 07:29:06 AM  
Where I live they play 'Greensleeves' and it's traditional for fathers to tell their kids that "they only play that music when they run out of ice cream," before cracking open another beer  and settling down to watch the cricket for the rest of the day.
 
2014-05-12 07:30:51 AM  

Mugato: All I know is music from farking ice cream trucks is farking annoying. I don't know how those drivers don't go insane.


There are two that come through my neighborhood. One plays"You Light Up My Life", and the other plays "It's a Small World".
I don't really care for either one.
 
2014-05-12 07:34:25 AM  
The ice cream truck in our neighborhood plays WaKko's America.
 
2014-05-12 07:35:27 AM  
Cool fact: "The Battle Hymn of the Republic" was the cause for school shootings.

Our eyes have seen the glory
Of the burning of the school.
We have tortured all the teachers
And have broken all the rules.
We marched to the office
And we shot the principal.
Our troops go marchin' on....
 
2014-05-12 07:36:40 AM  
"Mommy, can I have some ice cream?"

"NO. Ice cream is racist, because early American ice cream parlors played racist minstrel show tunes to lure in customers. Enlightened folk only eat foods with no connection to historical injustice."

"... Mommy, mayn't we even live in America, seeing as it was built by slaves? On lands emptied by genocide?"

"Indeed we may dear, provided we spend every waking moment feeling profound shame and spreading misery to all we meet.  It is the only way,"
 
2014-05-12 07:37:01 AM  
static.commercialmotor.com

I take it Mr Whippy franchises aren't going to expand into the US anytime soon.
 
2014-05-12 07:44:37 AM  
Is it code switch? It's probably code switch.

/checks

Yep. Code switch is the worst farking drivel I've seen come out of NPR in years.
 
2014-05-12 07:44:41 AM  

lewismarktwo: Enni Minni Miney Moe...


At least there's still One Potato, Two Potato- aww, f*cking Irish.
 
2014-05-12 07:57:58 AM  
God damn earworm.
 
2014-05-12 08:10:27 AM  
Fark this politics and just gimme a Fujikkle.
 
2014-05-12 08:15:38 AM  
"Rocket Sauce" is racist?!
 
2014-05-12 08:15:49 AM  
I was wracking my brain to figure out how Mr. Softee could be racist. I mean, I figured it was possible, certainly plenty of easy jokes to make... but racist?

Then yeah, they played Turkey in the Straw.

This world... is a weird world.
 
2014-05-12 08:17:41 AM  
*wanders off to eat ice cream anyway*

The internet, itunes, and fark didn't exist when ice cream trucks started playing that catchy little instrumental song.  Possibly half of the drivers didn't know it had words.
 
2014-05-12 08:17:42 AM  

Mister Pleco: Cool fact: "The Battle Hymn of the Republic" was the cause for school shootings.

Our eyes have seen the glory
Of the burning of the school.
We have tortured all the teachers
And have broken all the rules.
We marched to the office
And we shot the principal.
Our troops go marchin' on....


You forgot the chorus!

Glory, glory, hallelujah
Teacher hit me with a ruler
Hid behind her door with a loaded .44
And the teacher don't teach no more!
 
2014-05-12 08:18:38 AM  
I've always wondered how problematic it might be, having turkeys in the straw. Was it such a commonplace difficulty that someone could write a song about it?
*person listens to song, chuckles* "Aw, yeah. Them turkeys, alright. Always causing trouble with the straw."
 
2014-05-12 08:19:30 AM  
Pop Goes the Weasel?
It's about Lesbians.
 
2014-05-12 08:25:22 AM  

GungFu: Decades old racist records in the media trifecta in play!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2625248/BBC-sacks-DJ-playing -T he-Sun-Has-Got-His-Hat-On-didnt-know-original-features-N-word-Clarkson -wasnt-fired-actually-saying-it.html


The Sun Has Got His Hat On:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDIpkz6DOi8



I dance Lindy Hop and I hear a lot of old songs with racist lyrics being played here in Spain. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AYSigcYyLo 

"Clap Your Hands on the Afterbeat" features the lovely lyric "corny jiggaboos" sung by a white chick. Regarless of that, it's a nice song to dance to.

"That's why the Chinks do it, Japs do it, ..." From Peggy Lee's version of "Let's Do It, Let's Fall In Love"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgfNgeWQAAg

And the list goes on.
 
2014-05-12 08:25:36 AM  
And the most racist version of all . . .

img.fark.net

. . . he wearing white face!

/ they have wonderfully racist clam chowder there . . .
 
2014-05-12 08:25:40 AM  

Lapdance: Around here the truck plays the other song that Irritates the hell out of me, HELLO!


Huh. I had to look at your profile, because that drives me nuts, too. Turns out we're both in the Baltimore area.. I wonder if anyone else has the irritating, "HELLOOO!" at the end of their ice cream truck songs?
 
2014-05-12 08:31:53 AM  
CSB

While working near Orlando, I could frequently hear the ice cream truck roaming the nearby neighborhoods around lunchtime.

It was conspicuous when it stopped playing 'Turkey in the Straw" and started playing hip-hop as it transitioned from one demographic zone to another.

Now it makes a bit more sense.
 
2014-05-12 08:36:46 AM  
Some people are just assholes and they WILL NOT be happy till even one else is as miserable as they are. Fark whoever wrote that BS article they need to go DIAF.
 
2014-05-12 08:37:57 AM  

Betep: Pop Goes the Weasel?
It's about Lesbians.


Right, and next you'll be telling me that Puff the Magic Dragon is about pot.
 
2014-05-12 08:44:09 AM  

cornfed78: Lapdance: Around here the truck plays the other song that Irritates the hell out of me, HELLO!

Huh. I had to look at your profile, because that drives me nuts, too. Turns out we're both in the Baltimore area.. I wonder if anyone else has the irritating, "HELLOOO!" at the end of their ice cream truck songs?


Here in Southern California we get the annoying "HELLOOOO!"  At least in Hell Cajon, that is.  My favorite ice cream truck is the one with ground-effect lighting that rolls through after dark, year-round...even on cold winter days.  He likes to park in the same sketchy-ass apartment complexes for several minutes, and then doesn't bother to make more stops on the block after those.  I've never approached it to ask for ice cream, but I can imagine there's more than ice cream for sale.
 
2014-05-12 08:49:30 AM  

ILoveBurritos: Huh, the I've creams trucks around here played "The Entertainer"


Most trucks around here play that too. But when I was growing up they used to play the Turkey in the Straw song. One summer they quit and most trucks play some other nameless tune.

Dear White People,

I know you all think that anyone who brings up the racist history behind a lot of things is overstating things greatly. However I think any reasonable human being would also give credence to the converse: That maybe white people understate racism and the impact that history has on the present.

You think you're walking around as a white person, an individual - with no connection to a past that has anything to do with racist thought or behavior. Yet, if many of you examine your lives, and you're honest, you will find that your interactions with people of color are superficial at best. Even more, you would complete eschew any contact with people of color if you could.

I also think white people underestimate how much hurt these things cause black people. Even the most enlightened white people remain brutally and callously uncaring about the every day hurt black people feel when they encounter racist and discriminatory behavior from white people.

It's as if the entire country hung out a Welcome to Fark sign back in the 1700's. This country was built on the lie and the evil that only the thoughts, feelings and lives of white people matter.

That is truly, insidiously evil, especially in the way it works it's way down to even something that should be as benign as buying ice cream.
 
2014-05-12 08:50:45 AM  
This just in, if a song is old enough it's a guarantee that someone has penned a version with racist/sexist/offensive/juvenile lyrics to go with the melody.

It doesn't take away from the song. It means you should simply skip that version.

/jingle bells, batman smells, robin laid an egg...
//hitler has only got one ball, Goring has two but they are very small
 
2014-05-12 08:50:54 AM  

The Southern Dandy: ♫♪ Do your balls hang low?
Do they swing to and fro?
Can you tie 'em in a knot?
Can you tie 'em in a bow?
Can you throw 'em over your shoulder like a continental soldier?
Do your balls hang low?  ♫♪


Oh great, so ice cream men are racist  and misogynist. What more can you say of white men giving white phallic symbols to little boys and girls to lick and suck?
 
2014-05-12 08:56:12 AM  

Thats_right_ALL_the_tea: I'm pretty sure that melody has existed longer than those lyrics, but even if he's right and it's not:

If everyone forgot that the song is racist, to the point that nobody is offended by it, what purpose does it serve to dredge up the old lyrics? Yay, now a cute little melody is ruined and people that were previously not offended are.

"There is simply no divorcing the song from the dozens of decades it was almost exclusively used for coming up with new ways to ridicule, and profit from, black people."? Well, either the article is redundant trash telling people what they already knew, or that assertion is false because people didn't know about those decades.


Well that was a cake walk.
 
2014-05-12 08:56:29 AM  

SubBass49: Here in Southern California we get the annoying "HELLOOOO!" At least in Hell Cajon, that is. My favorite ice cream truck is the one with ground-effect lighting that rolls through after dark, year-round...even on cold winter days. He likes to park in the same sketchy-ass apartment complexes for several minutes, and then doesn't bother to make more stops on the block after those. I've never approached it to ask for ice cream, but I can imagine there's more than ice cream for sale


tokesignals.com
 
2014-05-12 08:56:29 AM  

Thats_right_ALL_the_tea: I'm pretty sure that melody has existed longer than those lyrics, but even if he's right and it's not:

If everyone forgot that the song is racist, to the point that nobody is offended by it, what purpose does it serve to dredge up the old lyrics? Yay, now a cute little melody is ruined and people that were previously not offended are.

"There is simply no divorcing the song from the dozens of decades it was almost exclusively used for coming up with new ways to ridicule, and profit from, black people."? Well, either the article is redundant trash telling people what they already knew, or that assertion is false because people didn't know about those decades.


FTA: Mr. Browne was fairly creative in his lyrics, the song's premise and its melody are nearly as old as America itself.

So he even admits in the article that the tune, the only part of the song that actually comes out of the ice cream truck, is actually older than the racist song that he found.

He's literally acting like a racist Weird Al version of the song is the definitive version that the ice cream trucks are all playing and he admits as much right in the article.
 
2014-05-12 08:56:41 AM  
Uhm, this guy did little research and made a lot of assumptions.

This link is to a PDF and I can't pull quotes from it.

http://web.archive.org/web/20090205035547/http://homepages.nyu.edu/~ dt n2008/NeelySoftServe.pdf

However, fundamentally, his theory is bullshiat.
 
2014-05-12 08:59:39 AM  

Hermione_Granger: ILoveBurritos: Huh, the I've creams trucks around here played "The Entertainer"

Most trucks around here play that too. But when I was growing up they used to play the Turkey in the Straw song. One summer they quit and most trucks play some other nameless tune.

Dear White People,

I know you all think that anyone who brings up the racist history behind a lot of things is overstating things greatly. However I think any reasonable human being would also give credence to the converse: That maybe white people understate racism and the impact that history has on the present.

You think you're walking around as a white person, an individual - with no connection to a past that has anything to do with racist thought or behavior. Yet, if many of you examine your lives, and you're honest, you will find that your interactions with people of color are superficial at best. Even more, you would complete eschew any contact with people of color if you could.

I also think white people underestimate how much hurt these things cause black people. Even the most enlightened white people remain brutally and callously uncaring about the every day hurt black people feel when they encounter racist and discriminatory behavior from white people.

It's as if the entire country hung out a Welcome to Fark sign back in the 1700's. This country was built on the lie and the evil that only the thoughts, feelings and lives of white people matter.

That is truly, insidiously evil, especially in the way it works it's way down to even something that should be as benign as buying ice cream.


Hey don't lecture white people on racism. We invented it!

PS: Your post is BS.   I think it's lovely how from one sid of your mouth you chastize people for being closed racist, as well as point out they could never know what it feels like, you claim to understand thier motives and feelings.
 
2014-05-12 09:00:58 AM  

dahmers love zombie: OK, so because some racist asswipe took "Turkey In The Straw" and wrote offensive lyrics for it, that's what all the ice cream trucks are playing?

I think I may possibly need a bit more evidence.  Like if the first ice cream trucks to play the song played it with the "N*gger Love a Watermelon" lyrics included, and if someone posts a video of that.  Then I'll buy the concept.  Otherwise, it's "Turkey in the Straw".  Which is weird-ass enough for an ice cream truck.


You should read more of the article.  It goes on to talk about how that song (along with a lot of other songs from minstrel shows) was really popular in the ice cream parlors of the day, and thus was one of the first songs used in the music boxes on the first ice cream trucks.

Of course, I don't think anybody who drives an ice cream truck really knows why they play Turkey in the Straw; it's just a catchy little jingle to get kids' attention.  Hell, the ice cream truck that used to go through my neighborhood played nothing but Christmas music, which was really jarring in the middle of July.

/it also had Paper Mario art on the driver's side, for some reason
 
2014-05-12 09:02:42 AM  

Theory Of Null: Everytime I see the words "Minstrel Show" I get visions of women on their period doing performance art.


That sound suspiciously like my year at a women's college.
 
2014-05-12 09:05:32 AM  

Tchernobog: Is it code switch? It's probably code switch.

/checks

Yep. Code switch is the worst farking drivel I've seen come out of NPR in years.


Came here to say basically this. Someone up thread speculated that NPR has an agenda. Code switch definitely had an agenda.
 
2014-05-12 09:10:32 AM  

Hermione_Granger: ILoveBurritos: Huh, the I've creams trucks around here played "The Entertainer"

Most trucks around here play that too. But when I was growing up they used to play the Turkey in the Straw song. One summer they quit and most trucks play some other nameless tune.

Dear White People,

I know you all think that anyone who brings up the racist history behind a lot of things is overstating things greatly. However I think any reasonable human being would also give credence to the converse: That maybe white people understate racism and the impact that history has on the present.

You think you're walking around as a white person, an individual - with no connection to a past that has anything to do with racist thought or behavior. Yet, if many of you examine your lives, and you're honest, you will find that your interactions with people of color are superficial at best. Even more, you would complete eschew any contact with people of color if you could.

I also think white people underestimate how much hurt these things cause black people. Even the most enlightened white people remain brutally and callously uncaring about the every day hurt black people feel when they encounter racist and discriminatory behavior from white people.

It's as if the entire country hung out a Welcome to Fark sign back in the 1700's. This country was built on the lie and the evil that only the thoughts, feelings and lives of white people matter.

That is truly, insidiously evil, especially in the way it works it's way down to even something that should be as benign as buying ice cream.


I am over forty years old and never knew of this obscure racist version of a tune I have always associated with "Turkey in the Straw" or "Do Your Ears Hang Low?" or even, "ICE CREAM!", but thank you for pointing out how that makes me an awful human being. It must be a heavy burden to possess such enlightenment.
 
2014-05-12 09:10:46 AM  

Hermione_Granger: ILoveBurritos: Huh, the I've creams trucks around here played "The Entertainer"

Most trucks around here play that too. But when I was growing up they used to play the Turkey in the Straw song. One summer they quit and most trucks play some other nameless tune.

Dear White People,

I know you all think that anyone who brings up the racist history behind a lot of things is overstating things greatly. However I think any reasonable human being would also give credence to the converse: That maybe white people understate racism and the impact that history has on the present.

You think you're walking around as a white person, an individual - with no connection to a past that has anything to do with racist thought or behavior. Yet, if many of you examine your lives, and you're honest, you will find that your interactions with people of color are superficial at best. Even more, you would complete eschew any contact with people of color if you could.

I also think white people underestimate how much hurt these things cause black people. Even the most enlightened white people remain brutally and callously uncaring about the every day hurt black people feel when they encounter racist and discriminatory behavior from white people.

It's as if the entire country hung out a Welcome to Fark sign back in the 1700's. This country was built on the lie and the evil that only the thoughts, feelings and lives of white people matter.

That is truly, insidiously evil, especially in the way it works it's way down to even something that should be as benign as buying ice cream.


How the hell did you stray away from tumblr?
 
2014-05-12 09:12:03 AM  

Hermione_Granger: ILoveBurritos: Huh, the I've creams trucks around here played "The Entertainer"

Most trucks around here play that too. But when I was growing up they used to play the Turkey in the Straw song. One summer they quit and most trucks play some other nameless tune.

Dear White People,

I know you all think that anyone who brings up the racist history behind a lot of things is overstating things greatly. However I think any reasonable human being would also give credence to the converse: That maybe white people understate racism and the impact that history has on the present.

You think you're walking around as a white person, an individual - with no connection to a past that has anything to do with racist thought or behavior. Yet, if many of you examine your lives, and you're honest, you will find that your interactions with people of color are superficial at best. Even more, you would complete eschew any contact with people of color if you could.

I also think white people underestimate how much hurt these things cause black people. Even the most enlightened white people remain brutally and callously uncaring about the every day hurt black people feel when they encounter racist and discriminatory behavior from white people.

It's as if the entire country hung out a Welcome to Fark sign back in the 1700's. This country was built on the lie and the evil that only the thoughts, feelings and lives of white people matter.

That is truly, insidiously evil, especially in the way it works it's way down to even something that should be as benign as buying ice cream.


Um, how about no?
 
2014-05-12 09:12:23 AM  

Hermione_Granger: Dear White People,

I know you all think that anyone who brings up the racist history behind a lot of things is overstating things greatly. However I think any reasonable human being would also give credence to the converse: That maybe white people understate racism and the impact that history has on the present.

You think you're walking around as a white person, an individual - with no connection to a past that has anything to do with racist thought or behavior. Yet, if many of you examine your lives, and you're honest, you will find that your interactions with people of color are superficial at best. Even more, you would complete eschew any contact with people of color if you could.

I also think white people underestimate how much hurt these things cause black people. Even the most enlightened white people remain brutally and callously uncaring about the every day hurt black people feel when they encounter racist and discriminatory behavior from white people.

It's as if the entire country hung out a Welcome to Fark sign back in the 1700's. This country was built on the lie and the evil that only the thoughts, feelings and lives of white people matter.

That is truly, insidiously evil, especially in the way it works it's way down to even something that should be as benign as buying ice cream.


Dear Black People.

If the only tool you have in your tool box is the hammer of accusations of racism, then every single thing you see will look like a ten-penny nail forged by the KKK.

On the other hand, if you are willing to give people the benefit of the doubt before assuming that their actions are based upon racial bias, then you may just help to foster the closer relations you seek.

Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.

Also, it doesn't matter anyway, because they're been flouridating children's ice cream for years in an attempt to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids, so if "Turkey in the Straw" offends you, and you refuse to let your kids eat the ice cream, well, they're probably better off for it anyway.
 
2014-05-12 09:15:01 AM  
So if I get this straight, anything associated with racism is forever tinged. Why stop at the song? Then no more trading cars, ice cream trucks, music, actors etc. But were good with rappers, ghetto dwellers and prefessional athletes throwing around n!&&a$ word.
 
2014-05-12 09:16:12 AM  
Last time I got treats from an ice cream truck, I paid more per treat than an entire box of the same stuff costs at the grocery store. How the fark did they get up too $3.50 for a sad pre-packaged ice cream cone?
 
2014-05-12 09:17:54 AM  

Hermione_Granger: ILoveBurritos: Huh, the I've creams trucks around here played "The Entertainer"

Most trucks around here play that too. But when I was growing up they used to play the Turkey in the Straw song. One summer they quit and most trucks play some other nameless tune.

Dear White People,

I know you all think that anyone who brings up the racist history behind a lot of things is overstating things greatly. However I think any reasonable human being would also give credence to the converse: That maybe white people understate racism and the impact that history has on the present.

You think you're walking around as a white person, an individual - with no connection to a past that has anything to do with racist thought or behavior. Yet, if many of you examine your lives, and you're honest, you will find that your interactions with people of color are superficial at best. Even more, you would complete eschew any contact with people of color if you could.

I also think white people underestimate how much hurt these things cause black people. Even the most enlightened white people remain brutally and callously uncaring about the every day hurt black people feel when they encounter racist and discriminatory behavior from white people.

It's as if the entire country hung out a Welcome to Fark sign back in the 1700's. This country was built on the lie and the evil that only the thoughts, feelings and lives of white people matter.

That is truly, insidiously evil, especially in the way it works it's way down to even something that should be as benign as buying ice cream.


You know it's human nature to associate most with those similar to you, right? That's not something white people do specifically.

And as a white person who spent middle school as a minority, I can tell you completely random, unfounded racism goes both ways. As an 11 year old, whose family came here as poor Irish in the early 20th century, no, I didn't and don't have any connection to the institution of racism you're claiming every white person maliciously, yet unknowingly, participates in.

Kindly fark yourself.
 
2014-05-12 09:21:36 AM  

Twist2005: Theory Of Null: Everytime I see the words "Minstrel Show" I get visions of women on their period doing performance art.

That sound suspiciously like my year at a women's college.


Testify, sister.
 
2014-05-12 09:21:38 AM  

Hermione_Granger: ILoveBurritos: Huh, the I've creams trucks around here played "The Entertainer"

Most trucks around here play that too. But when I was growing up they used to play the Turkey in the Straw song. One summer they quit and most trucks play some other nameless tune.

Dear White People,

I know you all think that anyone who brings up the racist history behind a lot of things is overstating things greatly. However I think any reasonable human being would also give credence to the converse: That maybe white people understate racism and the impact that history has on the present.

You think you're walking around as a white person, an individual - with no connection to a past that has anything to do with racist thought or behavior. Yet, if many of you examine your lives, and you're honest, you will find that your interactions with people of color are superficial at best. Even more, you would complete eschew any contact with people of color if you could.

I also think white people underestimate how much hurt these things cause black people. Even the most enlightened white people remain brutally and callously uncaring about the every day hurt black people feel when they encounter racist and discriminatory behavior from white people.

It's as if the entire country hung out a Welcome to Fark sign back in the 1700's. This country was built on the lie and the evil that only the thoughts, feelings and lives of white people matter.

That is truly, insidiously evil, especially in the way it works it's way down to even something that should be as benign as buying ice cream.



If you're gonna beat a hornet's nest with a stick, don't acted shocked when you start getting stung.
 
2014-05-12 09:27:18 AM  
Hermione_Granger:

Dear White People,

Uh-oh...here comes an enormous, sweeping generalization.

"I know you all think..."

Yup. I was right.
 
2014-05-12 09:36:11 AM  
Where I live, and everywhere else I have lived, ice cream trucks play "Union Maid" aka "Red Wing", not "Turkey in the Straw".

Since most of them are recorded now instead of using actual bells, why not play an assortment of many tunes instead of the same few bars over and over?
 
2014-05-12 09:38:54 AM  
They should all play "I'm Fat" by Weird Al.
 
2014-05-12 09:39:51 AM  
The ice cream truck in my neighborhood plays "Helter Skelter"
 
2014-05-12 09:41:45 AM  
"there is simply no divorcing the song from the dozens of decades it was almost exclusively used for coming up with new ways to ridicule, and profit from, black people. "

Since no one knew about it, including you, until you dug around for it... I can say that you're wrong about that.
 
2014-05-12 09:44:15 AM  

log_jammin: Joy to the world is really about cannibalism

Joy to the world, the teacher's dead
we barbecued her head!
What happened to the body?
We flushed it down the potty!
And round and round it went,
and round and round it went
and rouuund and round and round it went


I've long forgotten that song....Thanks for the memory!!!
 
2014-05-12 09:47:04 AM  

ransack.: b0rg9:

"Sike"?


Realize most 8 year-olds cannot spell "psych" and do not understand the etymology of the word. It's just a phonetic recitation -- usually spelled "sike".
 
2014-05-12 09:48:20 AM  
If I had kids I wouldn't let them be around an ice cream truck. I'd be afraid the driver would be either the Clown from Spawn or Big Worm.

i23.photobucket.com
 
2014-05-12 09:49:46 AM  

NicoFinn: I dance Lindy Hop and I hear a lot of old songs with racist lyrics being played here in Spain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AYSigcYyLo

"Clap Your Hands on the Afterbeat" features the lovely lyric "corny jiggaboos" sung by a white chick. Regarless of that, it's a nice song to dance to.


Suddenly, I'm really curious what the translation of that into Spanish would be.
 
2014-05-12 09:56:11 AM  

Biner: I don't care if it's racist or not. All I know is by June, I will so sick of that song I'll be tempted to get on the roof of my apartment with a rifle and go all Texas Book Depository on the Ice Cream Man's ass.

/live across the street from a park
//hear this song non-stop for about 5 months a year


I live next door to a building w/ a lot of rug rats.  Every night around 

Biner: I don't care if it's racist or not. All I know is by June, I will so sick of that song I'll be tempted to get on the roof of my apartment with a rifle and go all Texas Book Depository on the Ice Cream Man's ass.

/live across the street from a park
//hear this song non-stop for about 5 months a year


I live next to a large building w/ a bunch of rug rats.  Every evening around 7-8ish, the ice cream truck parks in front of said building and plays 'Turkey in the Straw' non stop, for 30-45 minutes.... all year long! (and I live in NYC).

I feel your pain.
 
2014-05-12 09:58:47 AM  
The ice cream truck in my neighborhood plays Dixie, so this whole racist song thing isn't a problem...
 
2014-05-12 09:59:34 AM  
This far in an no one has posted the ghetto-ass ice cream truck?

http://youtu.be/yQfzyz1LFGQ?t=56s

Just go ahead and assume it's NSFW.
 
2014-05-12 10:00:44 AM  

Researcher: I was wracking my brain to figure out how Mr. Softee could be racist. I mean, I figured it was possible, certainly plenty of easy jokes to make... but racist?

Then yeah, they played Turkey in the Straw.

This world... is a weird world.


http://www.mistersoftee.com/userfiles/file/sheetmusic.pdf
 
2014-05-12 10:01:43 AM  
That beloved song played at Obama's inauguration? Yeah, it's British.
 
2014-05-12 10:02:46 AM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: It was conspicuous when it stopped playing 'Turkey in the Straw" and started playing hip-hop as it transitioned from one demographic zone to another.


If it's this one, it's still "Turkey in the Straw".
 
2014-05-12 10:11:00 AM  
Has anyone mentioned that a MELODY once upon a time co-opted for racist purposes doesn't not constitute a racist SONG??
 
2014-05-12 10:12:49 AM  

log_jammin: op of old smokey
all covered with blood
I shot my poor teacher
with a 44 slug


Very popular when I was young, probably get suspended today.
 
2014-05-12 10:12:59 AM  

FarkaDark: So if I get this straight, anything associated with racism is forever tinged. Why stop at the song? Then no more trading cars, ice cream trucks, music, actors etc. But were good with rappers, ghetto dwellers and prefessional athletes throwing around nubian$ word.


It's basically a way for the parents to let loose the kids of war for a few minutes.  They might get tired for 30 minutes after that.

Or I assume it's a way since I was one of the kids handed a few dollars by my stressed parents, then ran down the street waving the money like a flag in order to take the ice cream hostage.
 
2014-05-12 10:14:40 AM  
I always thought it was just my local ice cream truck played Skrewdriver...
 
2014-05-12 10:16:59 AM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I always thought it was just my local ice cream truck played Skrewdriver...


*blink* I thought the drivers had to drink screwdrivers just to be able to handle the kids.
 
2014-05-12 10:17:47 AM  
I miss the days when Ice Cream Trucks used to go "brrrrring brrrrring" instead of playing insipid digitized music.
 
2014-05-12 10:20:21 AM  
Even David Allan Coe would be offended by that song.
 
2014-05-12 10:21:09 AM  
I always thought the song was turkey in the straw. Shrug.
 
2014-05-12 10:22:26 AM  

vonster: Has anyone mentioned that a MELODY once upon a time co-opted for racist purposes doesn't not constitute a racist SONG??


It's the internet, where any dickhead's freshman sociology paper can be regurgitated as journalism.

by THEODORE R. JOHNSON, III

Oh, STFU you pretentious twat. Go back to Gilligan's Island.
 
2014-05-12 10:26:56 AM  
I can't believe no one's mentioned that Jingle Bells is actually about Batman's poor hygiene
 
2014-05-12 10:32:53 AM  

tricycleracer: Even David Allan Coe would be offended by that song.



Johnny Rebel, however, thought it was kinda bland.
 
2014-05-12 10:33:19 AM  
Obviously, the government needs a program to build a time machine, go back in time, erase/prosecute all emblems of our past that anyone finds offensive, starting with slavery/racism. But what would people like this writer, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton have to get offended over? I hear them complain about racist America but why aren't they over saving those 300 Nigerian girls that were kidnapped as (sexual) slaves? Oh, wait: There is no white liberal guilt money to be had over there. And if all vestiges of racism were erased here, they would have to get real jobs.

/Michelle Obama DID put a picture on Twitter showing her solidarity. That meant a lot to those girls and their families, I'm sure.
 
2014-05-12 10:33:58 AM  
ICE KEEM MAAAAN!
 
2014-05-12 10:36:28 AM  
Applying this same logic, isn't this like saying all Ford vehicles are anti-Jewish.

Or since my great grandfather could have held a whip at one point, I am a cracker too.
 
2014-05-12 10:40:49 AM  
Is it racist if I sing "Do your [whatever] hang low", when the truck goes by?
 
2014-05-12 10:47:44 AM  
160 comments and not one post of this?

i536.photobucket.com
 
2014-05-12 10:48:47 AM  
I've always known that song as "I Had a Chicken".

Well, I had a little chicken
And she wouldn't lay an egg
So I poured hot water all around her leg
And the little chicken hollered and the little chicken begged
And the gosh darn chicken laid a hard boiled egg!


Those are the lyrics in my mind whenever I hear that song.
 
2014-05-12 10:52:28 AM  
So, it appears this article being really really stupid has already been covered.

So I'll just link to the really creepy music the ice cream trucks here play...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU41N6N2hfU

Actually, for me all ice cream trucks only have a creepy pedophile association, there were never any around when I was a kid, so I never actually got any ice cream from one.  Now I see these beaten to shiat vans with creepy looking guys driving them, and just have to wonder who would want a kid near one.  Even if the driver isn't a pedophile I'd be worried about food poisoning.
 
2014-05-12 10:52:45 AM  

Lee451: Obviously, the government needs a program to build a time machine, go back in time, erase/prosecute all emblems of our past that anyone finds offensive, starting with slavery/racism. But what would people like this writer, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton have to get offended over? I hear them complain about racist America but why aren't they over saving those 300 Nigerian girls that were kidnapped as (sexual) slaves? Oh, wait: There is no white liberal guilt money to be had over there. And if all vestiges of racism were erased here, they would have to get real jobs.

/Michelle Obama DID put a picture on Twitter showing her solidarity. That meant a lot to those girls and their families, I'm sure.


Whew, I was starting to get worried that my, every thread about racism will include attacks against Jesse Jackson and/or Al Sharpton even though they are in no way involved theory was going to be busted by this thread.

Those two have nothing to do with this, they don't speak for everyone and your attempts to marginalize race issues are transparent.  Is the melody racist? Nope. Is the song he linked to? Yup.  Is anybody actually trying to do something with this knowledge? Nope.  So why do you give flying fark if somebody else talks about it?  Even if they were trying to ban the farking ice cream truck song why are you emotionally invested in the survival of the farking ice cream truck song at all anyway?
 
2014-05-12 10:55:58 AM  

Lokkii: Uhm, this guy did little research and made a lot of assumptions.

This link is to a PDF and I can't pull quotes from it.

http://web.archive.org/web/20090205035547/http://homepages.nyu.edu/~ dt n2008/NeelySoftServe.pdf

However, fundamentally, his theory is bullshiat.


Apples and Oranges.  That PDF (which I highly recommend others read btw) is exploring the technology and business strategy behind the music (and also explains the dozens of other songs used).  What TFA is trying to convey is the particular connection of the melody of "Turkey in the Straw" to ice cream.  Argument being that the music played in late Victorian ice cream parlors (mentioned in your PDF) were tunes made popular from contemporary performances which just so happened to be racist as fark.

That particular tune being used to recall nostalgia from music boxes in late Victorian ice cream parlors (also noted in the article as being pioneered by Good Humor of California) would have been almost entirely associated with the racist minstrel pieces.  Plus, that particular racist tune had a call and respond related to ice cream which would have made it more likely to be played at an ice cream parlor.
 
2014-05-12 11:01:02 AM  
This thread is a classic and concrete example of why race relations are still so farked up in this country.
It's not just that racism still exists here, although less than in the past, it's that the larger (white) community
refuses to acknowledge it's presence. The first step toward fixing the present is to find out why it's broken,
and that reason is always in the past.

Most white people aren't racist, yet still shake their heads in disbelief when racism is pointed out to them.
The only reason I can think of for that is that the people who perpetrate this foulness are, shall we say, "too close to home"...
the thought of someone who is so much like themselves in appearance and social standing having such views
elicits a protective response, manifesting in denial. In the back of their minds the thought "If they are like that... could I be like that?"
floats unbidden, forming a wall between reality and their psyches.

tl;dr - Racist sh*t happened in the past. Racist sh*t is happening now. Knowledge is the key to fighting it. Don't dismiss what people are trying to tell you.
 
2014-05-12 11:03:41 AM  

Snarfangel: So, if I understand this article correctly...that means I can get watermelon ice cream?


At Sonic they can do a watermelon slush/soft serve ice cream combo and it's divine. The grape one is a little better though.
 
2014-05-12 11:04:18 AM  

This text is now purple: Vlad_the_Inaner: It was conspicuous when it stopped playing 'Turkey in the Straw" and started playing hip-hop as it transitioned from one demographic zone to another.

If it's this one, it's still "Turkey in the Straw".


I'm not where I can play audio.  But there was no turkey in the straw melody embedded in the hip-hop if that's the implication.  (that I could hear)

/but that would be a cool transition.  Traditional, yet sensitive to environment.
 
2014-05-12 11:06:35 AM  

pirho451: The ice cream truck in my neighborhood plays "Helter Skelter"


I used to live in a neighborhood where the ice cream truck played a music box version of Pink Floyd's "The Wall".  It was rather brilliant on their part.  You have kids and pot heads excited.

/I believe they might have sold marijuana.
 
2014-05-12 11:08:48 AM  

The Southern Dandy: ♫♪ Do your balls hang low?
Do they swing to and fro?
Can you tie 'em in a knot?
Can you tie 'em in a bow?
Can you throw 'em over your shoulder like a continental soldier?
Do your balls hang low?  ♫♪


There are entire tumblr blogs dedicated to this, you should research them.
 
2014-05-12 11:09:39 AM  

BigBooper: Last time I got treats from an ice cream truck, I paid more per treat than an entire box of the same stuff costs at the grocery store. How the fark did they get up too $3.50 for a sad pre-packaged ice cream cone?

 
He asks, regarding the country where people frequently pay $2 for 20 oz of chilled  tap water in a disposable bottle.

/my theory, the parents are not buying ice cream, they are buying silencing of the "WE WANT ICE CREAM!" chants
 
2014-05-12 11:09:54 AM  

fusillade762: So Mickey Mouse is a racist?


Yeah, early mouse cartoons were basically minstrel shows:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dw06K0dG1Zw 
I've always heard the Mister Softee Jingle and Chimes tune:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzodaDCD798
 
2014-05-12 11:10:54 AM  
Ice cream trucks should change their songs to "Bangarang". Link
 
2014-05-12 11:31:39 AM  
173 comments and not one of these?

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FARK, I am disappoint.
 
2014-05-12 11:34:22 AM  

Hermione_Granger: ILoveBurritos: Huh, the I've creams trucks around here played "The Entertainer"


Most trucks around here play that too. But when I was growing up they used to play the Turkey in the Straw song. One summer they quit and most trucks play some other nameless tune.


Dear White People,


I know you all think that anyone who brings up the racist history behind a lot of things is overstating things greatly. However I think any reasonable human being would also give credence to the converse: That maybe white people understate racism and the impact that history has on the present.


This was great. Just a pleasure to start a Monday off with and I compliment the professionalism and polish. One point deducted for not taking the risk and slipping "you people" in there. Sure, you'd have gotten busted quicker, but the overall scintillation would have been greatly enhanced. 7.89/10

The Guild will issue a Notation of Specific Thanks in the mail tomorrow. Have a great rest of the week! ^>^
 
2014-05-12 11:43:28 AM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: BigBooper: Last time I got treats from an ice cream truck, I paid more per treat than an entire box of the same stuff costs at the grocery store. How the fark did they get up too $3.50 for a sad pre-packaged ice cream cone?
 
He asks, regarding the country where people frequently pay $2 for 20 oz of chilled  tap water in a disposable bottle.

/my theory, the parents are not buying ice cream, they are buying silencing of the "WE WANT ICE CREAM!" chants


Got ice cream for $1/$1.50 just last month where I am. The non creepy ice cream truck plays turkey in the straw. The creepy one which is just a regular van modified with a bullhorn plays classical music.
 
2014-05-12 11:48:34 AM  
In my neighborhood, the Ice Cream Truck just plays a recording of this guy:
i1.ytimg.com
 
2014-05-12 11:50:00 AM  
Mary had a little sheepAnd with the sheep she went to sleepBut the sheep turned out to be a ramSo Mary had a little lamb.
 
2014-05-12 11:51:11 AM  

mike_d85: Lokkii: Uhm, this guy did little research and made a lot of assumptions.

This link is to a PDF and I can't pull quotes from it.

http://web.archive.org/web/20090205035547/http://homepages.nyu.edu/~ dt n2008/NeelySoftServe.pdf

However, fundamentally, his theory is bullshiat.

Apples and Oranges.  That PDF (which I highly recommend others read btw) is exploring the technology and business strategy behind the music (and also explains the dozens of other songs used).  What TFA is trying to convey is the particular connection of the melody of "Turkey in the Straw" to ice cream.  Argument being that the music played in late Victorian ice cream parlors (mentioned in your PDF) were tunes made popular from contemporary performances which just so happened to be racist as fark.

That particular tune being used to recall nostalgia from music boxes in late Victorian ice cream parlors (also noted in the article as being pioneered by Good Humor of California) would have been almost entirely associated with the racist minstrel pieces.  Plus, that particular racist tune had a call and respond related to ice cream which would have made it more likely to be played at an ice cream parlor.


No, he's right.  According to this essay, written by an ethnomusicologist, no less, ice cream parlors had all kinds of popular music being played in them, and where an early site for coin operated jukeboxes.


The choice of music for ice cream trucks was specifically a) ice cream oriented b)written by the ice cream vendors c)recognizable orchestral snippets(e.g. Tannhauser, from the article) or d)kiddie music, which, by the time Turkey in the Straw became popular for trucks, it most certainly was. It's been a kid's campfire song for probably close to a century now in the Northeast


The alternative is everyone in America selling ice cream out of trucks in the 60s and 70s collectively decided that they needed to find that one song about n**gers and watermelon they might have heard their grandad sing before he died and make it into a coded statement about making fun of black people and tie it to the traveling ice cream industry.


But the MOST IMPORTANT part of the ice cream music is that it was chimes, because chimes make us happy. the tune is not important. It's arbitrary. So if all you can think of when you here Turkey in the Straw is a single racist novelty song from the olden days, you have only yourself to blame.


This is now officially, thoroughly, debunked. Class A garbage reporting and evidence of nothing more than pure shiftless laziness on the part of the writer.
 
2014-05-12 11:56:22 AM  
Stupid phone.

Mary had a little sheep
And with the sheep she went to sleep
But the sheep turned out to be a ram
So Mary had a little lamb.

/Heard that in high school.
 
2014-05-12 11:57:18 AM  
Well to be fair, they do love watermelon. Then again, so do I.
 
2014-05-12 12:03:16 PM  

rewind2846: This thread is a classic and concrete example of why race relations are still so farked up in this country.
It's not just that racism still exists here, although less than in the past, it's that the larger (white) community
refuses to acknowledge it's presence. The first step toward fixing the present is to find out why it's broken,
and that reason is always in the past.

Most white people aren't racist, yet still shake their heads in disbelief when racism is pointed out to them.
The only reason I can think of for that is that the people who perpetrate this foulness are, shall we say, "too close to home"...
the thought of someone who is so much like themselves in appearance and social standing having such views
elicits a protective response, manifesting in denial. In the back of their minds the thought "If they are like that... could I be like that?"
floats unbidden, forming a wall between reality and their psyches.

tl;dr - Racist sh*t happened in the past. Racist sh*t is happening now. Knowledge is the key to fighting it. Don't dismiss what people are trying to tell you.


On the off chance you're not trolling...

Yeah, racist shiat happened in the past, is happening now, and will unfortunately keep happening in the future.  It would be great if it would all stop, and I'm all about trying to stop it.

But the wordless tune played by ice cream trucks isn't racism.  Plenty of the teabaggers are racists.  The Republican party has quite a few racists.  Racism in hiring is still a huge problem in this country.  The police in this country may be more racist now than any time since the '60s.  I've encountered it in my personal life, and I've told friends to knock it the fark off.  Racism is real, it's serious, and it's wrong.

But looking for racism where it doesn't exist is stupid and counterproductive.  What do you suppose the chances are that anyone hearing it now thinks of "Zip Coon"?  I'd say it's damn near nil.  I'd never heard of it before today, and I've probably heard that tune thousands of times.  And the origin of the tune is older than this country, and isn't related to racism at all.

So now we know.  The tune was once entangled with racism.  But that time is over, the entanglement is gone, time and other uses of the tune have erased it from our collective memory, and now it's just a somewhat annoying tune played by ice cream trucks, and that some of us actually associate more with the Apple II than anything else.

In short...

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-05-12 12:06:46 PM  
Here is Boston, they took down a sign for the NE Aquarium that displayed some penguins with the slogan "the original hip hoppers" because someone thought it was racist.
How on Earth could that possibly be racist??
Pathetic attention whore losers know no racial boundaries....
 
2014-05-12 12:51:52 PM  

Mugato: All I know is music from farking ice cream trucks is farking annoying. I don't know how those drivers don't go insane.


How do you know they don't?
 
2014-05-12 01:08:12 PM  
There are no lyrics played by the ice cream trucks. So which of the musical notes of the melody are racist?
 
2014-05-12 01:14:03 PM  
1.bp.blogspot.com

hey guys, has anyone posted this yet?
 
2014-05-12 01:16:29 PM  
Political Correctness: Doing its part every year to make some part of children's innocent fun inherently bigoted.
 
2014-05-12 01:24:01 PM  
I will not be boycotting Ice Cream.

I will drink every time I hear National Anthem!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3l-n64NWHS4
 
2014-05-12 01:29:28 PM  

yoyopro: Mirandized: noazark: "Turkey in the Straw" is also the underlying melody for "Do Your Boobs Hang Low?"

/just sayin'

And when I was a boy scout some sixty years ago, we sang that song at camp outs with the lyrics "Do your ears hang low." Now I suppose all kids must quit singing that or be sexist or racist, depending on which version most offends.

Holy smokes Harvey!

60 years ago you were a Boy Scout?

What age does that make you today?

I'm just a cub compared to you.


Get off my lawn and take your watermelon with you.
 
2014-05-12 01:33:27 PM  
I knew about Turkey In The Straw's roots in minstrel music hand't heard that version though.  That was pretty interesting/disturbing.  It's also easy to forget that at one point the Stephen Foster-styled minstrel tune was by far THE most popular genre music in America.

The go-to for ice-cream trucks in my area is the loving ode to erectile dysfunction.  Unlike a lot of other ice cream truck music, which is lifted from folk or classic tunes (look Ma, no royalties!)  The Mr. Softee theme was an original written to promote the Mr. Softee experience.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0rGNLd6tdw

The company was based in the Northeast which probably explains the prevalence of their trucks in the NYC area.  I always thought the lyrics should be "This is the song I hear all day that makes me want to blow my head off, this is the song I hear all day that makes me want to blow my head off."
 
2014-05-12 01:33:41 PM  

That Guy What Stole the Bacon: Tellingthem: That Guy What Stole the Bacon: dahmers love zombie: OK, so because some racist asswipe took "Turkey In The Straw" and wrote offensive lyrics for it, that's what all the ice cream trucks are playing?

I think I may possibly need a bit more evidence.  Like if the first ice cream trucks to play the song played it with the "N*gger Love a Watermelon" lyrics included, and if someone posts a video of that.  Then I'll buy the concept.  Otherwise, it's "Turkey in the Straw".  Which is weird-ass enough for an ice cream truck.

THIS.

In high school, they brought in a very angry lady to talk to (read: shout at) us about sexism in the media. I will never forget how she showed us a series of "Got Milk?" ads (you know, the milk moustache ones) and then, sly grin on her face, showed us a, shall we say, pornographically-influenced parody ad that left very little to the imagination. She spent the next ten minutes explaining to us that milk ads were really just money shot jokes and that we should all be ashamed of ourselves for not realizing this sooner and that milk is basically a misogynistic racket.

I wish I could say that even a small fraction of that was made up.

/yeah, yeah... csb...

Heh...in my copy classes in college we did an entire section on "foods with dipping sauce" advertisements. Every single one was supposedly some kind of phallic symbol with a money shot.  Before that class I never even thought about it. But now? It's all that I can picture when i see one. That class turned my mind into a perverted mess!

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar...


Unless it's a Lewinsky brand cigar.
 
2014-05-12 02:12:41 PM  

Thats_right_ALL_the_tea: I'm pretty sure that melody has existed longer than those lyrics, but even if he's right and it's not:

If everyone forgot that the song is racist, to the point that nobody is offended by it, what purpose does it serve to dredge up the old lyrics? Yay, now a cute little melody is ruined and people that were previously not offended are.

"There is simply no divorcing the song from the dozens of decades it was almost exclusively used for coming up with new ways to ridicule, and profit from, black people."? Well, either the article is redundant trash telling people what they already knew, or that assertion is false because people didn't know about those decades.


Honestly, I'm a bit of a history buff and this is the first time I've heard that. I always knew it as Turkey in the Straw. Only about half the trucks play it anymore--most in the neighborhoods I've lived in for about the past fifteen years or so are playing Pop Goes the Weasel now anyway, but I guess if somebody has to feel guilty, more power to them. Personally, I wasn't involved in slavery or oppression of blacks, Chinese, or anyone else (nor do I know anyone who was directly involved, since I don't know any Guiness record holders who've lived a hundred and thirty to a hundred and sixty-ish years), so I'm just gonna enjoy ice cream and encourage children to do the same.
 
2014-05-12 02:26:25 PM  
That's funny.  In my neighborhood the ice cream truck plays "It's a small world after all".  After reading those lyrics I almost got them to fit the cadence.  Then I saw they were talking about turkey in the straw.
 
2014-05-12 02:27:11 PM  

Tchernobog: Hermione_Granger: ILoveBurritos: Huh, the I've creams trucks around here played "The Entertainer"

Most trucks around here play that too. But when I was growing up they used to play the Turkey in the Straw song. One summer they quit and most trucks play some other nameless tune.

Dear White People,

I know you all think that anyone who brings up the racist history behind a lot of things is overstating things greatly. However I think any reasonable human being would also give credence to the converse: That maybe white people understate racism and the impact that history has on the present.

You think you're walking around as a white person, an individual - with no connection to a past that has anything to do with racist thought or behavior. Yet, if many of you examine your lives, and you're honest, you will find that your interactions with people of color are superficial at best. Even more, you would complete eschew any contact with people of color if you could.

I also think white people underestimate how much hurt these things cause black people. Even the most enlightened white people remain brutally and callously uncaring about the every day hurt black people feel when they encounter racist and discriminatory behavior from white people.

It's as if the entire country hung out a Welcome to Fark sign back in the 1700's. This country was built on the lie and the evil that only the thoughts, feelings and lives of white people matter.

That is truly, insidiously evil, especially in the way it works it's way down to even something that should be as benign as buying ice cream.

You know it's human nature to associate most with those similar to you, right? That's not something white people do specifically.

And as a white person who spent middle school as a minority, I can tell you completely random, unfounded racism goes both ways. As an 11 year old, whose family came here as poor Irish in the early 20th century, no, I didn't and don't have any connection to the institut ...


Scots-Irish and American Indian. So, not entirely white and seen plenty of anti-Irish racism and plenty more anti-Indian racism. Lived in Chicago for five years, so I've seen my fair share of racism against whites.

It fascinates me, this "you don't know how it feels" thing blacks have going on.

Here's a thought: when you become so focused on your own "victimhood," you become what you claim to hate. Stop being a victim. Stop being the problem. Be the solution.

Or shut the fark up.
 
2014-05-12 02:31:04 PM  

Mad_Radhu: Now... Vader, he's a spiritual brother, y'know, down with the force and all that good shiat. Then this cracker, Skywalker, gets his hands on a light saber and the boy decides he's gonna run the farkin' universe; gets a whole clan of whites together. And they go and bust up Vader's hood, the Death Star. Now what the fark do you call that?


Intergalactic Civil War?
 
2014-05-12 02:33:31 PM  

dahmers love zombie: OK, so because some racist asswipe took "Turkey In The Straw" and wrote offensive lyrics for it, that's what all the ice cream trucks are playing?

I think I may possibly need a bit more evidence.  Like if the first ice cream trucks to play the song played it with the "N*gger Love a Watermelon" lyrics included, and if someone posts a video of that.  Then I'll buy the concept.  Otherwise, it's "Turkey in the Straw".  Which is weird-ass enough for an ice cream truck.


^This.
 
2014-05-12 02:53:17 PM  

Aigoo: Here's a thought: when you become so focused on your own "victimhood," you become what you claim to hate. Stop being a victim. Stop being the problem. Be the solution.


Yeah, it's all black peoples fault. Jim Crow, segregation, slavery, beating, lynchings, job/loan discrimination... yup, we did it all to ourselves. On purpose. Really truly.
Some idiot decides to be an asshole to me because of the color of my skin, how the fark am I supposed to "solve" that short of kicking them in the mouth? I suppose you're going to tell us to "stop hitting ourselves" next.

Another example of someone who refuses to see the problem because "it ain't them". "Be the solution"... moron.
 
2014-05-12 03:01:29 PM  

DarkVader: So now we know.


And should we not also know the history that so many are desperately trying to forget? That was the point of the article and it's research.
The roots of this issue run deep withing this nation's history and psyche, and has never been resolved because too many of those who actually did some this dirt would rather not have their skeletons shown the light of day.
History can teach us why a society is great, but it can also teach us why that same society should be humble. Welcome to humility.
 
2014-05-12 03:03:23 PM  
Late to the party(?), but on a lighter note, I always thought it would be a great safety feature if the music were somehow linked, mechanically, to the tachometer - the higher the RPMs, the faster the music plays. So kids could tell if the truck was speeding up or slowing down. Imagine after he gets on the interstate...
 
2014-05-12 03:32:36 PM  

rewind2846: Aigoo: Here's a thought: when you become so focused on your own "victimhood," you become what you claim to hate. Stop being a victim. Stop being the problem. Be the solution.

Yeah, it's all black peoples fault. Jim Crow, segregation, slavery, beating, lynchings, job/loan discrimination... yup, we did it all to ourselves. On purpose. Really truly.
Some idiot decides to be an asshole to me because of the color of my skin, how the fark am I supposed to "solve" that short of kicking them in the mouth? I suppose you're going to tell us to "stop hitting ourselves" next.

Another example of someone who refuses to see the problem because "it ain't them". "Be the solution"... moron.


Wow, sorry to hear that you were a slave, that must have sucked. Glad you survived the lynching though! Are you one of those 5%'ers I keep hearing about?
 
2014-05-12 03:41:20 PM  
I bet it's hard to listen to music with all those dog whistles in your ears.

And now here's the downside of the internet making all information available for all time: every time. No matter how much a word or song meaning may change over time, there will be someone that can summon a list of ancient definitions that no one has heard in a...age.
 
2014-05-12 03:46:26 PM  
Around here, we only have Schwan's frozen substance delivery trucks, which are a thing you have to sign up for, so they neither have nor need an attract mode.
 
2014-05-12 04:27:50 PM  

Rex Kramer - Danger Seeker: Wow, sorry to hear that you were a slave slept through your history classes and didn't learn a goddamn thing, that must have sucked


just for you
 
2014-05-12 04:34:08 PM  
This article must reference newer ice cream trucks.  The ones from my youth only had a manually-operated bell.  I was wondering how the heck "ding-ding-ding" was racist.
 
2014-05-12 05:51:54 PM  

WalMartian: This article must reference newer ice cream trucks.  The ones from my youth only had a manually-operated bell.  I was wondering how the heck "ding-ding-ding" was racist.


You're most of the way there.  Add a few "Chings" and "Dongs" and you're golden

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2014-05-12 06:00:17 PM  

JonnyBGoode: Local ice cream trucks around here play Pop Goes the Weasel a lot. (Damn racist monkey.)


Was trying to figure out how that was offensive. Maybe "weasel" was code?

Also #wewantapologies
 
2014-05-12 06:32:02 PM  
Vas?? "Fur elise" ist rrrrrrrrrasist?
 
2014-05-12 08:24:30 PM  
Huh. I always thought it was the melody to Do Your Ears Hang Low (or whatever it's called.)

In any case, I'm glad to not work in such an ice cream truck. I think I'd go insane having to listen to that damn tune for 8 hours straight.
 
2014-05-12 09:56:31 PM  
And then there's those murder victims hidden in the ice, your scoop of pistachio chip perhaps resting on a head-shot goomba's stomach......

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2014-05-12 11:21:31 PM  

rewind2846: Aigoo: Here's a thought: when you become so focused on your own "victimhood," you become what you claim to hate. Stop being a victim. Stop being the problem. Be the solution.

Yeah, it's all black peoples fault. Jim Crow, segregation, slavery, beating, lynchings, job/loan discrimination... yup, we did it all to ourselves. On purpose. Really truly.
Some idiot decides to be an asshole to me because of the color of my skin, how the fark am I supposed to "solve" that short of kicking them in the mouth? I suppose you're going to tell us to "stop hitting ourselves" next.

Another example of someone who refuses to see the problem because "it ain't them". "Be the solution"... moron.


And American Indian genocide is something my ancestors did to themselves? As is the racism that persists in some places even today?

Grow up and stop calling people morons. You know exactly what it is that I am referring to. Jim Crow laws have been struck down. Segregation only exists when you allow it to (and yes, blacks do segregate themselves deliberately). Slavery is illegal and prosecuted viciously when found.

You're living in the past--a past that you yourself were not a part of unless you, like Condoleeza Rice, were present when churches in Birmingham were bombed or unless you yourself were actually present at any point during or prior to the 1960's (and by that, I mean old enough to have your own memories and to have taken part in that part of history in some way--reading about it doesn't count). Stop living there and be part of the present and future.

I could live there, too, if I wanted, and blame white, Anglo Saxon Protestants from Europe for the attempted genocide of my mother's race. (let that sink in Mr "oh poor me, my ancestors were slaves." Because living as slaves is a far cry from being killed for having been born a certain race. At least as slaves--which other African tribes sold their neighbors/rivals into--yes, life was awful, but it was a chance to have a life, no matter how terrible.) But I wasn't alive at that time, nor were any of the people who are alive today. It would be petty, ridiculous, pointless, and a waste of my time and energy to go around angry and bitter at everyone who isn't American Indian (not to mention self-loathing since my father is white) because long before I was ever born, human beings did awful things to other human beings.

Guess what? Human beings do awful and terrible things to other human beings--and race doesn't matter one good god damn in the reasoning. Get over yourself and make the decision to be a human being that does not do awful and terrible things to other human beings and yes, be the farking solution. It's not hard to make a decision and act on it, it doesn't make a damned bit of difference what your skin color, religion, gender, sexual orientation, or anything else is--or what anyone else's is. Treating a human being as a human being, with respect, courtesy, and decency doesn't depend on any of that: it depends on you--and only you--making a decision to do that and acting on it and not feeling sorry for yourself because...reasons.

And yeah, it really is just that easy to be the solution. But it's easier to make up bullshiat excuses to justify your inaction. Believe me, I know--I did it for years.
 
2014-05-12 11:34:10 PM  
I haven't read all of the posts, and someone else may have said this already, but the words I know to that tune are about animal torture!

"Oh, I had a little chicken and it wouldn't lay an egg, so I poured hot water up and down it's leg. Oh, the little chicken cried and the little chicken begged, then the little chicken laid me a hard-boiled egg."

Guess my family was just cruel to animals and not racist!
 
2014-05-13 12:01:13 AM  

That Guy What Stole the Bacon: dahmers love zombie: OK, so because some racist asswipe took "Turkey In The Straw" and wrote offensive lyrics for it, that's what all the ice cream trucks are playing?

I think I may possibly need a bit more evidence.  Like if the first ice cream trucks to play the song played it with the "N*gger Love a Watermelon" lyrics included, and if someone posts a video of that.  Then I'll buy the concept.  Otherwise, it's "Turkey in the Straw".  Which is weird-ass enough for an ice cream truck.

THIS.

In high school, they brought in a very angry lady to talk to (read: shout at) us about sexism in the media. I will never forget how she showed us a series of "Got Milk?" ads (you know, the milk moustache ones) and then, sly grin on her face, showed us a, shall we say, pornographically-influenced parody ad that left very little to the imagination. She spent the next ten minutes explaining to us that milk ads were really just money shot jokes and that we should all be ashamed of ourselves for not realizing this sooner and that milk is basically a misogynistic racket.

I wish I could say that even a small fraction of that was made up.

/yeah, yeah... csb...


My own CSB: freshman year of college,1981, the grad student teaching my communications class was wearing a button that said "WAL". When asked what it meant she said "Women Against Ladies". She used this as permission to go on a rant that went so many places that I can't remember them all now. Suffice it to say her tirade ended with women should not wear makeup because lipstick's purpose is to make mouths look like vaginas.

Since the tender age of 18 every time I see lipstick on a woman's mouth I am reminded.

What does this have to do with anything?

Well. You know what I'll be thinking when the ice cream truck rolls by from now on.

Swear, that thought had never occurred to me before.

/ will not boycott watermelon
// nor ice cream
/// nor mouths
//// nor vaginas
 
2014-05-13 12:09:46 AM  

Aigoo: You're living in the past--a past that you yourself were not a part of unless you, like Condoleeza Rice, were present when churches in Birmingham were bombed or unless you yourself were actually present at any point during or prior to the 1960's (and by that, I mean old enough to have your own memories and to have taken part in that part of history in some way--reading about it doesn't count).


I was born in 1962. In North Carolina. I was there when they finally pained over the "white" and "colored" water fountains. I was there when Dr King was killed and our father drove us out to his mother's house to escape the mayhem in the streets. I watched my mother cry when Malcolm X was killed, and did not understand why. I was part of that past. Do not presume to lecture me on "history", as I've seen with my own eyes things a child should not see... and see some of the same sh*t happening today.

The past can only be the past if it's not still happening.
 
2014-05-13 12:11:45 AM  

SirRepetitious: That Guy What Stole the Bacon: dahmers love zombie: OK, so because some racist asswipe took "Turkey In The Straw" and wrote offensive lyrics for it, that's what all the ice cream trucks are playing?

I think I may possibly need a bit more evidence.  Like if the first ice cream trucks to play the song played it with the "N*gger Love a Watermelon" lyrics included, and if someone posts a video of that.  Then I'll buy the concept.  Otherwise, it's "Turkey in the Straw".  Which is weird-ass enough for an ice cream truck.

THIS.

In high school, they brought in a very angry lady to talk to (read: shout at) us about sexism in the media. I will never forget how she showed us a series of "Got Milk?" ads (you know, the milk moustache ones) and then, sly grin on her face, showed us a, shall we say, pornographically-influenced parody ad that left very little to the imagination. She spent the next ten minutes explaining to us that milk ads were really just money shot jokes and that we should all be ashamed of ourselves for not realizing this sooner and that milk is basically a misogynistic racket.

I wish I could say that even a small fraction of that was made up.

/yeah, yeah... csb...

My own CSB: freshman year of college,1981, the grad student teaching my communications class was wearing a button that said "WAL". When asked what it meant she said "Women Against Ladies". She used this as permission to go on a rant that went so many places that I can't remember them all now. Suffice it to say her tirade ended with women should not wear makeup because lipstick's purpose is to make mouths look like vaginas.

Since the tender age of 18 every time I see lipstick on a woman's mouth I am reminded.

What does this have to do with anything?

Well. You know what I'll be thinking when the ice cream truck rolls by from now on.

Swear, that thought had never occurred to me before.

/ will not boycott watermelon
// nor ice cream
/// nor mouths
//// nor vaginas


Wow, it just occurs to me there is a Streisand Effect version of racism/sexism/whathaveyou offensiveness. Nope, I never thought something was racist, but damned if I can't avoid thinking about it now, thanks, pal.
 
2014-05-13 01:29:24 AM  

rewind2846: Aigoo: You're living in the past--a past that you yourself were not a part of unless you, like Condoleeza Rice, were present when churches in Birmingham were bombed or unless you yourself were actually present at any point during or prior to the 1960's (and by that, I mean old enough to have your own memories and to have taken part in that part of history in some way--reading about it doesn't count).

I was born in 1962. In North Carolina. I was there when they finally pained over the "white" and "colored" water fountains. I was there when Dr King was killed and our father drove us out to his mother's house to escape the mayhem in the streets. I watched my mother cry when Malcolm X was killed, and did not understand why. I was part of that past. Do not presume to lecture me on "history", as I've seen with my own eyes things a child should not see... and see some of the same sh*t happening today.

The past can only be the past if it's not still happening.


I just had a genuine checking of assumptions/ privilege moment.....as a black guy born in '62, do you consider yourself a Boomer?

Cultural blindness like this can erase the real past waaaay more effectively than almost anything other than forced illiteracy.
 
2014-05-13 03:19:43 AM  
 
2014-05-13 03:39:14 AM  

cornfed78: Lapdance: Around here the truck plays the other song that Irritates the hell out of me, HELLO!

Huh. I had to look at your profile, because that drives me nuts, too. Turns out we're both in the Baltimore area.. I wonder if anyone else has the irritating, "HELLOOO!" at the end of their ice cream truck songs?


That "HELLOOOO" thing is all over.  Weirder is the fact that a decent number ice cream trucks have various Christmas tunes on rotation.  This would be okay, I suppose, in the southern hemisphere, but I'm talking about the US.
 
2014-05-13 03:49:13 AM  

Pwnzor: I miss the days when Ice Cream Trucks used to go "brrrrring brrrrring" instead of playing insipid digitized music.


In and around Bakersfield California, there is La Rosa Ice Cream and Fruit Bars Company.  These are typically sold from push carts.  Their bells are real and quite distinctive.  http://www.larosafruitbars.com/
 
2014-05-13 09:14:47 AM  

LaughingRadish: Pwnzor: I miss the days when Ice Cream Trucks used to go "brrrrring brrrrring" instead of playing insipid digitized music.

In and around Bakersfield California, there is La Rosa Ice Cream and Fruit Bars Company.  These are typically sold from push carts.  Their bells are real and quite distinctive.  http://www.larosafruitbars.com/


I've heard ALL about those California fruit bars, and me and my wife Irene are just flabbergasted.  Flabbergasted, I say.

Buncha degenerates.  Why, in MY day...
 
2014-05-13 09:43:34 AM  

LaughingRadish: cornfed78: Lapdance: Around here the truck plays the other song that Irritates the hell out of me, HELLO!

Huh. I had to look at your profile, because that drives me nuts, too. Turns out we're both in the Baltimore area.. I wonder if anyone else has the irritating, "HELLOOO!" at the end of their ice cream truck songs?

That "HELLOOOO" thing is all over.  Weirder is the fact that a decent number ice cream trucks have various Christmas tunes on rotation.  This would be okay, I suppose, in the southern hemisphere, but I'm talking about the US.


That's been weirding me out here lately, hearing Silver Bells and other Christmas tunes. What gives?
 
2014-05-13 01:00:53 PM  
I knew there were some diehard racists on Fark. Everyone who responded to my post here, please pick up your sheet and hood to the right.
 
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