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(Wall Street Cheat Sheet)   A list of 7 highly overrated classic movies includes Citizen Kane, 2001: A Space Odyssey, and a couple of good movies too   (wallstcheatsheet.com) divider line 119
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2014-05-11 06:02:03 PM
Since deslidify won't work here's the list.

Bonnie and Clyde
The Deer Hunter
Lawrence of Arabia
2001
Birth of a Nation
Ben-Hur
Citizen Kane
 
2014-05-11 06:11:19 PM
List all on the same page

Also, fark you subby.
 
2014-05-11 06:17:44 PM
"I don't like Citizen Kane because it isn't brainless eye candy."

No sh*t.
 
2014-05-11 06:18:43 PM
Picture of the author:

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2014-05-11 06:40:41 PM
Yeah, Deer Hunter and Bonnie and Clyde have no f*ckin business being on that list. The rest I don't care about.
 
2014-05-11 06:47:45 PM
Classic films without computer enhancement seem to confuse people. Too bad.
 
2014-05-11 07:07:42 PM
Have to disagree with a couple of these, most notably Ben-Hur, if only because I watched it again recently and, not only does it hold up, but, that run time flies the fark by.
 
2014-05-11 07:08:31 PM
2001 "not a crowd pleaser"?  That's weird.  This was the day of the one-screen theater, and it played here for over a year.
 
2014-05-11 07:09:41 PM
2001? My god, this author's full of sh**.
 
2014-05-11 07:11:30 PM
Also, "films made in the past which do not reflect today's sensibilities are worthless no matter how good they are".
 
2014-05-11 07:14:00 PM

jake_lex: Picture of the author:

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Yeah, this.

Lawrence of Arabia is my all-time favorite movie. Bonnie and Clyde, 2001, and Ben-Hur are also classics that should be on anybody's watch list. I respect Citizen Kane for its time, but I will suggest that a lot of its innovations have become cliche, and that reflects poorly on the original. (Casablanca has this problem as well.) I never liked The Deerhunter, so I'll grant that. And I haven't mustered up the effort needed yet to watch Birth of a Nation coherently.
 
2014-05-11 07:16:17 PM
Citizen Kane would have been better with more gungans and fart jokes.
 
2014-05-11 07:16:48 PM
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Blowed Up Real Good!
 
2014-05-11 07:24:14 PM

Billy Liar: Also, "films made in the past which do not reflect today's sensibilities are worthless no matter how good they are".


6 of the 7 entries on that list could be summed up by that.  His criticism over the long shot of the space station in 2001 in particular is pretty egregious on this point.  Yeah, nowadays we're all used to how space looks thanks to CGI effects porn, but back in the day that shot was farking mind-blowing.  If the film had cut away from it quickly people would have lamented how little of the grandeur of space the film shows.
 
2014-05-11 07:24:16 PM
In other news, it's possible to find someone who will shiat on Bladerunner. Or anything else.
 
2014-05-11 07:25:40 PM
Substitute any of those 7 with Gone With The Wind and I'm good with it.
 
2014-05-11 07:27:19 PM

Fark like a Barsoomian: In other news, it's possible to find someone who will shiat on Bladerunner.


Oh, hell yeah. Every chance I get.
 
2014-05-11 07:29:43 PM
RAMMING SPEED!
 
2014-05-11 07:32:23 PM
Article: The following movies are must-sees for those interested in film, but maybe are not the best choices to show friends of the non-film buff variety.

Subby and I have differing definitions of the term "highly overrated", I see.
 
2014-05-11 07:43:11 PM

Fark like a Barsoomian: In other news, it's possible to find someone who will shiat on Bladerunner. Or anything else.


Blade Runner was boring as all hell. Yup, I said it.

Also, have never seen any of these movies. Mostly because a fair amount came out before I was born and just didn't appeal to me, nor am I a "film buff" who must see every 'classic'.

I like what I like. Sometimes it's popular with the masses, sometimes not.
 
2014-05-11 07:50:22 PM
Deer Hunter was boring as all hell. Yup, I said it.

It would benefit from being trimmed by at least an hour, but 2 hours would be better. Its really that bad.
 
2014-05-11 07:55:55 PM
Missing the Godfather
 
2014-05-11 07:59:37 PM

moothemagiccow: Missing the Godfather


I'm pregnant
 
2014-05-11 08:00:27 PM

Straight Outta Wells Branch: moothemagiccow: Missing the Godfather

I'm pregnant


Must be a new filter that I'm not aware of.
 
2014-05-11 08:02:37 PM

Billy Liar: 2001 "not a crowd pleaser"?  That's weird.  This was the day of the one-screen theater, and it played here for over a year.


2001 is really dated in some ways, SLOW pacing, no sound in space ( ;-)  ), dialog, little or no action.
On the other hand, it is probably something that I will rewatch once a decade for the rest of my life.

I got to see Lawrence of Arabia on an OLD MASSIVE screen, when they cleaned it up and re-released it.
Without a doubt one of the best films ever. 
Just Massive.
 
2014-05-11 08:08:28 PM
2001 : Not nearly as good as the book.
 
2014-05-11 08:10:48 PM

Fark like a Barsoomian: In other news, it's possible to find someone who will shiat on Bladerunner. Or anything else.


Say it isn't so!

/ swoons
 
2014-05-11 08:11:35 PM

John Buck 41: Fark like a Barsoomian: In other news, it's possible to find someone who will shiat on Bladerunner.

Oh, hell yeah. Every chance I get.


Bite the big one, heathen philistine

/ slashies
 
2014-05-11 08:12:26 PM
The negative reaction I have seen towards Kane seems to usually be "but it's in black and white!"

Citizen Kane is a visual film and had it been shot in color would have lost much of the artistic value because with color you cannot achieve "true black".

"But it's in black and white...!"

/yeesh.
 
2014-05-11 08:13:48 PM
Citizen Kane overrated? I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

/Birth of a Nation is correct though
//it's a punishing 4-hour slog
 
2014-05-11 08:17:50 PM

Funbags: Deer Hunter was boring as all hell. Yup, I said it.

It would benefit from being trimmed by at least an hour, but 2 hours would be better. Its really that bad.


I love The Deer Hunter, but yeah, you could slash an hour.  You could slash 30-45 minutes from before they leave alone.
 
2014-05-11 08:20:56 PM
Forrest Gump

Quite probably the furthest away from the pulsebeat of popular opinion as I've ever been.

Like being powdered with chiggers.


You dig it (and odds are you do)? Carry on with your bad selves. I just loathe every simpering, bombastic, intelligence-insulting, jingoistic frame of it.
 
2014-05-11 08:22:12 PM

Straight Outta Wells Branch: Straight Outta Wells Branch: moothemagiccow: Missing the Godfather

I'm pregnant

Must be a new filter that I'm not aware of.


Grade him higher than a zero and that won't happen.
 
2014-05-11 08:24:46 PM

jake_lex: Picture of the author:

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That picture resembles Subby more than the author, who is not calling these films "overrated," but simply acknowledging that they are more popular with critics and film lovers than with the general public. Unless you believe that the box office is the final judge of quality and that therefore Adam Sandler is the greatest actor of his generation, that doesn't mean "overrated." Quite the opposite; I'd say most of these films were underappreciated.

Personally, I couldn't care less what "most people" think.
 
2014-05-11 08:25:49 PM
Lawrence of Arabia?  fark you, list.

2001 and Citizen Kane were groundbreaking for their time.
 
2014-05-11 08:26:23 PM

yukichigai: Billy Liar: Also, "films made in the past which do not reflect today's sensibilities are worthless no matter how good they are".

6 of the 7 entries on that list could be summed up by that.  His criticism over the long shot of the space station in 2001 in particular is pretty egregious on this point.  Yeah, nowadays we're all used to how space looks thanks to CGI effects porn, but back in the day that shot was farking mind-blowing.  If the film had cut away from it quickly people would have lamented how little of the grandeur of space the film shows.


I know.  When I first saw 2001, I felt like it was the first film actually shot in space.
 
2014-05-11 08:30:07 PM

Straight Outta Wells Branch: Straight Outta Wells Branch: moothemagiccow: Missing the Godfather

I'm pregnant

Must be a new filter that I'm not aware of.


It's zero-divided-by-ten in fraction form.  You know

3/10
2/10
1/10
I'm pregnant
 
2014-05-11 08:31:45 PM
I have seen Bonnie and Clyde, nothing wrong with it.
2001, kind of slow moving, but okay
Deer Hunter, way too long, especially the wedding scene.
 
2014-05-11 08:38:05 PM
Yes, many of those films are too boring for modern mainstream audiences because their attention spans are virtually nonexistent. We have a generation raised on MTV and it's no coincidence many current directors started out with music videos. Most audiences these days will not tolerate a slowly developing scene or just pausing for a moment to dwell on a beautifully framed shot.
 
2014-05-11 08:41:17 PM
And, yeah, people who refuse to watch black + white movies just because they have been filmed in black + white are as confounding to me as people who refuse to watch subtitled films just because they're films with subtitled.
 
2014-05-11 08:42:14 PM
substitles.

damn half-blind fingers.
 
2014-05-11 08:43:54 PM
Most of these films are highly rated less for what they are than for what they DID:

Birth of a Nation literally invented motion pictures as we know them today;
2001 popularized the non-narrative, non-expository film;
Bonny & Clyde was one of the first (and first popular) mainstream violent and anti-hero pictures;
Citizen Kane proved that the non-linear "frame" story could be a viable method of storytelling;
Deer Hunter broke the hammerlock of "heroic US heroes fighting heroic wars" cinema;

And so on. Besides most of those being great films.
 
2014-05-11 09:03:36 PM

Straight Outta Wells Branch: Straight Outta Wells Branch: moothemagiccow: Missing the Godfather

I'm pregnant

Must be a new filter that I'm not aware of.


I think it's a reference to the movie Rosemarys Baby which is on right now .

: /   or maybe not
 
2014-05-11 09:05:53 PM

flaminio: And I haven't mustered up the effort needed yet to watch Birth of a Nation coherently.


germ78: /Birth of a Nation is correct though
//it's a punishing 4-hour slog


It was a KKK propaganda film but it pretty much invented basic filmmaking techniques. So there's no reason to watch it unless you're in film school.
 
2014-05-11 09:07:36 PM

Billy Liar: Also, "films made in the past which do not reflect today's sensibilities are worthless no matter how good they are".


Same argument has been made against the writings of Mark Twain (who was a borderline radical in his day).

That said, all of those films really do run too long, sometimes blurring an excellent story.  One more pass on the editing table would have improved them all.
 
2014-05-11 09:10:08 PM

Mugato: flaminio: And I haven't mustered up the effort needed yet to watch Birth of a Nation coherently.

germ78: /Birth of a Nation is correct though
//it's a punishing 4-hour slog

It was a KKK propaganda film but it pretty much invented basic filmmaking techniques. So there's no reason to watch it unless you're in film school.


Griffith even sensed his monumental screw-up and followed up "Birth of a Nation" with the much more positive "Intolerance," but even that had a backhanded retort to his critics in the title. They are both remarkable set pieces, but "Intolerance" ended up setting the high water mark for a century for expensive set designs and casting thousands of extras.
 
2014-05-11 09:13:23 PM
In other news, most people today have the attention span and the patience of a concussed vole.
 
2014-05-11 09:15:47 PM

Sinbox: Forrest Gump

Quite probably the furthest away from the pulsebeat of popular opinion as I've ever been.

Like being powdered with chiggers.

You dig it (and odds are you do)? Carry on with your bad selves. I just loathe every simpering, bombastic, intelligence-insulting, jingoistic frame of it.


Don't forget the anti-drug, anti-"free love" moralizing.
 
2014-05-11 09:23:40 PM
I just want to mention something about 2001 that I read which might not have been noticed by everyone.  Kubrick was fond of chess and in one seen HAL is playing chess with one of the astronauts.  HAL incorrectly calls a checkmate which was supposed to be a subtle clue about its instability.
 
2014-05-11 09:43:21 PM

namatad: SLOW pacing, no sound in space ( ;-)  ),


You mean I can't hear X-Wing and TIE fighters whooshing through space, punctuated with the sounds of laser canons and explosions?
 
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