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(Daily Mail)   Drinking water is a hell of a drug   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 57
    More: Scary, Britain, water treatment, drinking water, cocaine  
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2014-05-11 05:40:22 PM  
You would be dead from water intoxication long before you noticed any effect from the cocaine.
 
2014-05-11 05:42:33 PM  
Large traces of water can be found in beer.
 
2014-05-11 05:44:00 PM  
in moderation coke is probably healthier than caffeine... but who knows it's illegal to study it
 
2014-05-11 05:44:21 PM  
No one better fark with my precious bodily fluids.
 
2014-05-11 05:44:36 PM  
Definitely the stupid biggest rip-off of a drug ever synthesized.
 
2014-05-11 05:48:20 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-05-11 05:52:14 PM  
And the lady in blue stands and says, "None of this works that way".
 
2014-05-11 05:53:34 PM  
I like how the Daily Fail is pretending the UK is the only country where this is happening.
 
2014-05-11 05:54:18 PM  
So if water has memory, we can still get high on it, right?
 
2014-05-11 05:55:25 PM  
I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration,
Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion
and the international Communist conspiracy to
sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.
i1280.photobucket.com
Don't taze nuke me bro.
 
2014-05-11 05:57:50 PM  
Pfft, amateurs, water use is so widespread here, it can be found in our cocaine.
 
2014-05-11 06:05:01 PM  

vodka: in moderation coke is probably healthier than caffeine... but who knows it's illegal to study it


It has legitimate medical uses like meth and can be prescribed.  So studying it should not be as hard as something with no medicinal value like marijuana.
 
2014-05-11 06:07:02 PM  
Dihydrogen monoxide is a gateway drug.

Every potsmoker ever drank "water" (as the hippies call it) before they smoked pot.
 
2014-05-11 06:07:13 PM  

vodka: in moderation coke is probably healthier than caffeine... but who knows it's illegal to study it


it's really not

(dopamine full agonists are never going to be "safer" than ATP modifiers)
 
2014-05-11 06:12:43 PM  
Cocaine use in Britain so widespread it can be found in our DRINKING WATER

It MAKES US emphasize RANDOM WORDS!
 
2014-05-11 06:12:50 PM  
When robots and AI remove the need for labour and the financial sector, we are going to need drugs out of lack of anything else to do.
 
2014-05-11 06:13:37 PM  

sobriquet by any other name: vodka: in moderation coke is probably healthier than caffeine... but who knows it's illegal to study it

it's really not

(dopamine full agonists are never going to be "safer" than ATP modifiers)


"Well you don't need coke and you don't need speed, cause everything is better with a bag of weed" -Family Guy
 
2014-05-11 06:16:23 PM  
Hey, look on the bright side: at least cocaine isn't flammable.
 
2014-05-11 06:21:39 PM  

vodka: in moderation coke is probably healthier than caffeine... but who knows it's illegal to study it


where is it illegal to study?
 
2014-05-11 06:30:53 PM  
It's not the side-effects of the cocaine.  I'm thinking that it must be love.
 
2014-05-11 06:35:32 PM  

chitownmike: vodka: in moderation coke is probably healthier than caffeine... but who knows it's illegal to study it

where is it illegal to study?


It's definitely verboten at otolaryngology school.
 
2014-05-11 06:38:50 PM  
I had no idea cocaine was still so popular. I haven't used it in over 30 years, but I was shocked when I read not too long ago that the going price was $100/gram. That's what I seem to recall we paid for it back in the 80s. One thing I do remember about coke - it turns some people into bombastic idiots. When I first hear Rush Limbaugh, he reminded me of the kind of people I sometimes met at coke parties. I do, however, have some fond memories of some girls, and the things they would do if they knew you were holding.
 
2014-05-11 06:40:15 PM  

Atomic Spunk: I had no idea cocaine was still so popular. I haven't used it in over 30 years, but I was shocked when I read not too long ago that the going price was $100/gram.


Whoa. Price shot the fark up since I did any. I used to get eightballs for $125, and it was good stuff.
 
2014-05-11 06:41:05 PM  

grumpfuff: Atomic Spunk: I had no idea cocaine was still so popular. I haven't used it in over 30 years, but I was shocked when I read not too long ago that the going price was $100/gram.

Whoa. Price shot the fark up since I did any. I used to get eightballs for $125, and it was good stuff.


Though, as a side note, at the time I was living maybe 5 miles from Newark, so there's that.
 
2014-05-11 06:45:00 PM  
Fark needs an [OFFS] tag
 
2014-05-11 06:59:18 PM  

Dwight_Yeast: It's not the side-effects of the cocaine.  I'm thinking that it must be love.


It's too late. To be hateful.
 
2014-05-11 07:01:20 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Cocaine use in Britain so widespread it can be found in our DRINKING WATER

It MAKES US emphasize RANDOM WORDS!


LOUD NOISES!
 
2014-05-11 07:17:43 PM  
So, no actual cocaine was found - just minute, statistically insignificant amounts of the primary cocaine metabolite, benzoylecgonine.

Not a single article actually provides a link to the cited report (DWI 70/2/231,  found here), or actually mentions the minute amounts involved - we're talking single nanograms per liter. For those of you rusty on conversion, 1 nanogram per liter is 1 part per trillion. Yeah, with a "t". The friggin' World Health Organization - the folks paranoid about drinking water quality, among other things - considers this amount so low as to be safe to ignore for human health. Their quote:

Currently, analysis of the available data indicates that there is a substantial margin of safety between the very low concentrations of pharmaceuticals that would be consumed in drinking-water and the minimum therapeutic doses, which suggests a very low risk to human health. Based on this finding, the development of formal health-based guideline values for pharmaceuticals in the World Health Organization's (WHO) Guidelines for drinking-water quality is currently not considered to be necessary.

How low are we talking, here? The research involves 4 tested sites. Across all four sites, the water before treatment had varying mean benzoylecgonine amounts, ranging from a low mean of 1.2 nanograms per liter (ng/L) to a high mean of 9.8 ng/L. The water after treatment had negligible amounts - 3 of the 4 tested sites couldn't register a statistically useful amount, while the 4th site averaged 1.98 ng/L after treatment.

In other words, a rational mind would've read that and said "huh - they're detecting minute amounts of a metabolite, and water treatment appears to nail most, if not all of it." The NY Daily News, Daily Mail, and every other friggin' rag pushing a "the chavs are abusing drugs again" agenda read that and said "THE WATER'S CONTAMINATED WITH COCAINE!"

This. This is why reading the Daily Fail (or quite a few other rags) is a waste of time.
 
2014-05-11 07:18:27 PM  
Somebody's been peeing in the reservoir again?
 
2014-05-11 07:20:33 PM  
STILL not as interesting as the Cesspool of Sex Megachurch article on the same page.

I'd have injected the recovering heroin addict, IYKWIM.
 
2014-05-11 07:31:12 PM  
In homeopathy, a 1 part per trillion solution (a 6C dilution) is supposedly somewhat efficacious. To those lunatics, the more you dilute a substance, the stronger the effect. In a 6C dilution, you stand a pretty good chance of ingesting a single molecule, if you chug an entire liter - but, hey, we're talking lunatics, so, to them, a 6C solution is considered reasonably powerful medicine.

Just to frame the discussion, the highest mean amount of cocaine metabolite detected in treated tap water in the UK study was 1.98 parts per trillion. It's just under a 6C solution. It's ideal for a homeopathic high, not so much for actual concern.

UK homeopaths must be terrified by this report. According to DWI, they're all going to die - strung out on everything from cocaine to Advil - from drinking treated tap water.
 
2014-05-11 07:31:49 PM  

vodka: in moderation coke is probably healthier than caffeine...



Perhaps the leaves, but not sure about that substance that is derived from those leaves.  I would never try coke, but I wouldn't mind trying out those leaves some time.

Interesting fact: Coca Cola still uses cocaine flavoring, they receive it from the process that makes liquid cocaine for medical procedures.
 
2014-05-11 07:32:37 PM  
On a positive note, their local Coca-Cola bottling plant can now call it original recipe.
 
2014-05-11 07:33:57 PM  

Jeng: vodka: in moderation coke is probably healthier than caffeine...


Perhaps the leaves, but not sure about that substance that is derived from those leaves.  I would never try coke, but I wouldn't mind trying out those leaves some time.

Interesting fact: Coca Cola still uses cocaine flavoring, they receive it from the process that makes liquid cocaine for medical procedures.


Argh, less than a minute.

/shakes tiny, jittery fist
 
2014-05-11 07:35:38 PM  
is this from the same people that promoted a stock photo as a Welsh hottie/nascent scientist?

Yeah, about that looking for clicks thing.
 
2014-05-11 07:36:32 PM  
whiskey will do that to you.

/Want to know how they age it?
//Click here for that one special internet thing!
 
2014-05-11 07:38:57 PM  
Worth pointing out that you'd probably find 100x the level o the chemical in round-up, antidepressants, etc....
 
2014-05-11 07:45:38 PM  

Somaticasual: Worth pointing out that you'd probably find 100x the level o the chemical in round-up, antidepressants, etc....


anti-depressants made me homicidal, can the people I saved by not taking them sue the state(THE STATE) for endangering, but not actually damaging, can I sue them because I didn't get to kill, kill, kill, I want to kill, eat dead burnt bodies, veins in my teeth I want to kill Kill Kill Kill......

/Kill, Kill Kill!
 
2014-05-11 07:50:57 PM  

albatros183: Somaticasual: Worth pointing out that you'd probably find 100x the level o the chemical in round-up, antidepressants, etc....

anti-depressants made me homicidal, can the people I saved by not taking them sue the state(THE STATE) for endangering, but not actually damaging, can I sue them because I didn't get to kill, kill, kill, I want to kill, eat dead burnt bodies, veins in my teeth I want to kill Kill Kill Kill......

/Kill, Kill Kill!


So sad no-one likes me :) no more TFD :)

If you believe in a true republic, you would do it.

I promise to beg every morning

/No I lie
//I will promise to punch you in the face
///At least over the inter tubes
 
2014-05-11 07:56:29 PM  

FormlessOne: In homeopathy, a 1 part per trillion solution (a 6C dilution) is supposedly somewhat efficacious. To those lunatics, the more you dilute a substance, the stronger the effect...

 UK homeopaths must be terrified by this report. According to DWI, they're all going to die - strung out on everything from cocaine to Advil - from drinking treated tap water.

You're forgetting the OTHER part of the crazy though - that the effect is OPPOSITE what the undiluted substance does.  For example, to treat a fever they give a dilution of something that CAUSES a fever - "like cures like".  Rather than being strung out on water therefore, they must imagine that drinking water will bring you back down?

Like you said - lunatics

/ I WANT to get in a LITTLE more random emphasis TOO!
 
2014-05-11 08:29:22 PM  

Somaticasual: Worth pointing out that you'd probably find 100x the level o the chemical in round-up, antidepressants, etc....


There's cocaine in my antidepressants???

[runs to check]

Well....not really, no...
 
2014-05-11 08:44:02 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Somaticasual: Worth pointing out that you'd probably find 100x the level o the chemical in round-up, antidepressants, etc....

There's cocaine in my antidepressants???

[runs to check]

Well....not really, no...


Well, you see you're making a classic mistake. You should be using the cocaine AS an anti-depressant...

//not seriously advocating that
//a joke about rick james here?
 
2014-05-11 08:49:47 PM  

vodka: in moderation coke is probably healthier than caffeine.


No. No way.

Its difficult to even find literature that states that caffeine is adverse with high daily consumption. If you do come across something, you will almost surely find a study that negates its findings.
 
2014-05-11 08:54:04 PM  

Capt.Plywood: FormlessOne: In homeopathy, a 1 part per trillion solution (a 6C dilution) is supposedly somewhat efficacious. To those lunatics, the more you dilute a substance, the stronger the effect...
 UK homeopaths must be terrified by this report. According to DWI, they're all going to die - strung out on everything from cocaine to Advil - from drinking treated tap water.

You're forgetting the OTHER part of the crazy though - that the effect is OPPOSITE what the undiluted substance does.  For example, to treat a fever they give a dilution of something that CAUSES a fever - "like cures like".  Rather than being strung out on water therefore, they must imagine that drinking water will bring you back down?

Like you said - lunatics


Yep. Never understood homeopathy. I wonder what the opposite effect of consuming a cocaine metabolite, ibuprofen, and other pharmaceuticals would be... sedated, inflamed, and sick people?

/ I WANT to get in a LITTLE more random emphasis TOO!

Hey, I'm with you - random emphasis is AWESOME!
 
2014-05-11 09:40:26 PM  

Marcintosh: is this from the same people that promoted a stock photo as a Welsh hottie/nascent scientist?

Yeah, about that looking for clicks thing.


One of the Fark Gods has an annoying hardon for one of the worst publications in English history. We'd best not speak ill of it.
 
2014-05-11 09:45:22 PM  
Well, when you make banking the cornerstone of your economy, what do you expect?
 
2014-05-11 10:49:41 PM  

BenJammin: Somebody's been peeing in the reservoir again?


Yeah, that's pretty much what I got from TFA.
 
2014-05-11 11:14:21 PM  

novalord2: vodka: in moderation coke is probably healthier than caffeine.

No. No way.

Its difficult to even find literature that states that caffeine is adverse with high daily consumption. If you do come across something, you will almost surely find a study that negates its findings.


LD50 of caffeine in rats is 192 milligrams per kilogram of body mass.  LD50 of cocaine in mice is 95.1 mg/kg.

Yes, caffeine can kill you if you take enough of it.  The average human is 70kg.  A typical caffeine pill is 200 mg.  Don't take 35 of them, if you're average weight you'd have a 50% chance of death.
 
2014-05-11 11:22:28 PM  

Somaticasual: Gyrfalcon: Somaticasual: Worth pointing out that you'd probably find 100x the level o the chemical in round-up, antidepressants, etc....

There's cocaine in my antidepressants???

[runs to check]

Well....not really, no...

Well, you see you're making a classic mistake. You should be using the cocaine AS an anti-depressant...

//not seriously advocating that
//a joke about rick james here?


I did that once.

Spent a week in the psych ward after the suicide attempt. Coke is a rotten antidepressant
 
2014-05-11 11:36:00 PM  

DarkVader: novalord2: vodka: in moderation coke is probably healthier than caffeine.

No. No way.

Its difficult to even find literature that states that caffeine is adverse with high daily consumption. If you do come across something, you will almost surely find a study that negates its findings.

LD50 of caffeine in rats is 192 milligrams per kilogram of body mass.  LD50 of cocaine in mice is 95.1 mg/kg.

Yes, caffeine can kill you if you take enough of it.  The average human is 70kg.  A typical caffeine pill is 200 mg.  Don't take 35 of them, if you're average weight you'd have a 50% chance of death.


Not sure what this has to do with my comment. I'm not talking about feeding lab rats mega doses of pure drugs. Yes, there is a toxic dose for everything.
 
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