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2014-05-11 03:19:12 PM  
That is nice. While we are on the subject of fiction, I want the flying vehicle from Oblivion.
 
2014-05-11 03:20:26 PM  
It's been said a million times already, but nobody wants mass use of "flying cars" that are really just tiny prop planes.  They have to have gravity-defying technology that allows them to stay aloft when powerless (i.e., broken down or totaled).

The only possible scenario where millions of tiny planes could work is if they're completely automated, and humans are never allowed to drive (at least in the designated "highway" corridors).  They would have to be unhackable, with redundant systems that allow the AI to set the vehicle down in a safe place if anything goes wrong.
 
2014-05-11 03:23:01 PM  
I think fender benders will be a thing of the past with flying cars.
 
2014-05-11 03:23:17 PM  
The masses do not deserve flying cars. Bad enough as it is, I don't want to have to live in a cave to be safe from bad drivers.

Self driving cars that work with each other to create drafting trains on interstate highways (including negotiating how much time each car spends in the lead) would make for a better world.
 
2014-05-11 03:23:19 PM  
If you're looking for a flying car, try looking at the Sky Pad Apartments in Orbit City.  Ask for
Mr. Jetson.
 
2014-05-11 03:23:56 PM  

LargeCanine: That is nice. While we are on the subject of fiction, I want the flying vehicle from Oblivion.



With the weapons system included.
 
2014-05-11 03:25:00 PM  
Sturdy enough to survive a car crash or light enough to fly though the air. You can't have both.
 
2014-05-11 03:33:16 PM  
It looks nice, and I want it... but....... Those wings look awfully small for that vehicle. And there's also the small detail of them not having built and tested the farker yet. So it's still only theoretical.  Not that there haven't been flying cars in the past already. I think they had one way back in the 50's, it was just kind of crappy. Just these new, slick ones haven't been demonstrated yet.

And I'll take a driveable autogyro please. If it loses power, I just glide down...
 
2014-05-11 03:43:09 PM  
Only 30 years from concept to design....


ih2.redbubble.net
 
2014-05-11 03:45:22 PM  
FTA: "With speeds up to 200 miles per hour, the TF-X has a range of 500 miles but requires as few as five hours of training -- and an owner won't even need to convert his or her driveway into a runway."

i.imgur.com
 
2014-05-11 03:45:40 PM  

mongbiohazard: Those wings look awfully small for that vehicle.


I was going to post how it was probably an optical illusion but then I looked at the picture. Those aren't really wings, more like stubs. I don't see how that can work.
 
2014-05-11 03:45:45 PM  
i1.ytimg.com

is unavailable for comment.
 
2014-05-11 03:52:53 PM  
That machine totally has engineers on board and is in no way influence or completely created by graphics artists with no concept of how physics works.
 
2014-05-11 04:00:40 PM  
Just put a downpayment on this...

thefutureofthings.com


Had to sell my old one though.

media.popularmechanics.com
 
2014-05-11 04:07:40 PM  

AngryDragon: FTA: "With speeds up to 200 miles per hour, the TF-X has a range of 500 miles but requires as few as five hours of training -- and an owner won't even need to convert his or her driveway into a runway."


img84.imageshack.us
They knew what they were getting into. Let em crash.
 
2014-05-11 04:12:31 PM  
I don't know about "affordable", but it seems to me that helicopters do all the stuff that flying cars are supposed to do.
 
2014-05-11 04:15:05 PM  

Yankees Team Gynecologist: It's been said a million times already, but nobody wants mass use of "flying cars" that are really just tiny prop planes.  They have to have gravity-defying technology that allows them to stay aloft when powerless (i.e., broken down or totaled).

The only possible scenario where millions of tiny planes could work is if they're completely automated, and humans are never allowed to drive (at least in the designated "highway" corridors).  They would have to be unhackable, with redundant systems that allow the AI to set the vehicle down in a safe place if anything goes wrong.


This.  We can't drive in farking two dimensions now.
 
2014-05-11 04:30:39 PM  
Flying car?  Where the f$%k is my starship?
i126.photobucket.com
 
2014-05-11 04:30:41 PM  
Cars are built tough to withstand collisions.
Airplanes are built light to fly.

There is no intersection of those two roles.
 
2014-05-11 04:33:52 PM  
4.bp.blogspot.com

Not impressed.

Don't Touch Lola.
 
2014-05-11 04:34:12 PM  
The flying car has been "just around the corner!" for 90 years.

lh6.googleusercontent.com
 
2014-05-11 04:50:18 PM  

Arkanaut: I don't know about "affordable", but it seems to me that helicopters do all the stuff that flying cars are supposed to do.


The thing is, by making it an airplane, when things break, you have a good chance of a safe landing. Airplanes naturally want to fly. Helicopters, however, don't want to fly and will attempt to collide with the ground at every opportunity.
 
2014-05-11 04:55:47 PM  

teto85: Flying car?  Where the f$%k is my starship?
[i126.photobucket.com image 363x323]


That is one gaping hole.

phrasing
 
2014-05-11 04:58:05 PM  
F*** flying cars, I want my hoverbike!
 
2014-05-11 05:04:37 PM  

Tobin_Lam: Arkanaut: I don't know about "affordable", but it seems to me that helicopters do all the stuff that flying cars are supposed to do.

The thing is, by making it an airplane, when things break, you have a good chance of a safe landing. Airplanes naturally want to fly. Helicopters, however, don't want to fly and will attempt to collide with the ground at every opportunity.


Possibly, but look at where people want to drive their theoretical flying cars. Most of those places don't have safe landing areas that aren't full of other cars.
 
2014-05-11 05:08:49 PM  

Tobin_Lam: mongbiohazard: Those wings look awfully small for that vehicle.

I was going to post how it was probably an optical illusion but then I looked at the picture. Those aren't really wings, more like stubs. I don't see how that can work.


markosun.files.wordpress.com

Very high takeoff speeds.
 
2014-05-11 05:13:20 PM  
I've seen the way most people drive. I don't want them ABOVE me, too.
 
2014-05-11 05:13:24 PM  

teto85: Flying car?  Where the f$%k is my starship?
[i126.photobucket.com image 363x323]


Christian Dark Ages?  I'm pretty sure it was the pagan barbarians that sacked Rome and caused her downfall.  In reality, outside of the Muslim empires under Saladin (who were quite enlightened).  Catholicism was the only bastion of learning anywhere in Europe for almost a thousand years.  So in reality, without religion civilization may have collapsed entirely.

Oh wait, this was a religion bashing circlejerk you were trying to start.  Carry on.

/agnostic
//can't stand revisionist history though
 
2014-05-11 05:20:36 PM  

teto85: Flying car?  Where the f$%k is my starship?


Well that's the most ignorant thing I've seen today.
 
2014-05-11 05:22:46 PM  

Arkanaut: Tobin_Lam: Arkanaut: I don't know about "affordable", but it seems to me that helicopters do all the stuff that flying cars are supposed to do.

The thing is, by making it an airplane, when things break, you have a good chance of a safe landing. Airplanes naturally want to fly. Helicopters, however, don't want to fly and will attempt to collide with the ground at every opportunity.

Possibly, but look at where people want to drive their theoretical flying cars. Most of those places don't have safe landing areas that aren't full of other cars.


Further proof that, for now, flying cars are a stupid idea. I wish they weren't, but they are.
 
2014-05-11 05:35:56 PM  

Yankees Team Gynecologist: It's been said a million times already, but nobody wants mass use of "flying cars" that are really just tiny prop planes.  They have to have gravity-defying technology that allows them to stay aloft when powerless (i.e., broken down or totaled).


So if your gravity-defying car loses power and you're 15 or 20 feet off the ground, you just have to sit there forever, hoping someone comes to rescue you?
 
2014-05-11 05:41:36 PM  

Yankees Team Gynecologist: It's been said a million times already, but nobody wants mass use of "flying cars" that are really just tiny prop planes.  They have to have gravity-defying technology that allows them to stay aloft when powerless (i.e., broken down or totaled).

The only possible scenario where millions of tiny planes could work is if they're completely automated, and humans are never allowed to drive (at least in the designated "highway" corridors).  They would have to be unhackable, with redundant systems that allow the AI to set the vehicle down in a safe place if anything goes wrong.


That will work well until one of the AIs driving the cars develops a case of epilepsy due to having the Declaration of Independence loaded into its operating system.

g-ecx.images-amazon.com
 
2014-05-11 05:42:26 PM  

Nix Nightbird: I've seen the way most people drive. I don't want them ABOVE me, too.


That.

/people have a hard time driving in two dimensions, so what do you think will happen when you add a third?
 
2014-05-11 05:45:47 PM  

AngryDragon: teto85: Flying car?  Where the f$%k is my starship?
[i126.photobucket.com image 363x323]

Christian Dark Ages?  I'm pretty sure it was the pagan barbarians that sacked Rome and caused her downfall.  In reality, outside of the Muslim empires under Saladin (who were quite enlightened).  Catholicism was the only bastion of learning anywhere in Europe for almost a thousand years.  So in reality, without religion civilization may have collapsed entirely.

Oh wait, this was a religion bashing circlejerk you were trying to start.  Carry on.

/agnostic
//can't stand revisionist history though



One thing that always bugs me with his argument is why did no other civilization pick up after the Romans the way the Europeans did once they got Romes old books from the Moors?
 
2014-05-11 05:51:00 PM  
Flying cars will likely happen within the next 25-30 years, but most likely it will be another 1% plaything.

One day driving in Southern California is proof that there will never be widespread use of them.
 
2014-05-11 05:53:26 PM  
Wasn't this in a Tom and Gerry cartoon 60 years ago?
 
2014-05-11 05:58:05 PM  

AngryDragon: FTA: "With speeds up to 200 miles per hour, the TF-X has a range of 500 miles but requires as few as five hours of training -- and an owner won't even need to convert his or her driveway into a runway."

[i.imgur.com image 460x396]

Agreed.

( just imagine seeing all of the morons that are out there

AngryDragon: teto85: Flying car?  Where the f$%k is my starship?
[i126.photobucket.com image 363x323]

Christian Dark Ages?  I'm pretty sure it was the pagan barbarians that sacked Rome and caused her downfall.  In reality, outside of the Muslim empires under Saladin (who were quite enlightened).   Catholicism was the only bastion of learning anywhere in Europe for almost a thousand years. So in reality, without religion civilization may have collapsed entirely.

Oh wait, this was a religion bashing circlejerk you were trying to start.  Carry on.

/agnostic
//can't stand revisionist history though


?

What about the Byzantine Empire?

/ granted, they took a turn downhill after 1071 AD....
 
2014-05-11 06:06:21 PM  

teto85: Flying car?  Where the f$%k is my starship?

img.fark.net

What are you biatchin' about?  We've clearly reach the upper limit of knowledge...it's right there at the top of the graph!
 
2014-05-11 06:24:15 PM  

MacWizard: So if your gravity-defying car loses power and you're 15 or 20 feet off the ground, you just have to sit there forever, hoping someone comes to rescue you?


Really?  You can't think of at least 5 solutions to the stranded scenario that are not only 1000x better than the alternative (plummeting to the ground), but also decent enough on their own?

Let's start with the "someone comes to rescue you" solution: yes, you could call a friend, or some AAA equivalent.  Even if moving from one vehicle to another mid-air is not safe, you could be towed.  This is not much different from how things work today, just in 3 dimensions.
 
2014-05-11 06:39:26 PM  
That graph image has been around for years now.  Occasionally someone on one of these threads will say it's incorrect, but then not post any "correct" graph to show their version of the course of scientific advancement.

This Babylonian tablet from around 1,700 BC shows the square root of two, in base 60:

ocw.nd.edu

The value is accurate to approximately six decimal places, and precise enough for most engineering calculations today.

Humanity had a great start going.

WTF happened?
 
2014-05-11 06:43:18 PM  

wildcardjack: Tobin_Lam: mongbiohazard: Those wings look awfully small for that vehicle.

I was going to post how it was probably an optical illusion but then I looked at the picture. Those aren't really wings, more like stubs. I don't see how that can work.

[markosun.files.wordpress.com image 510x395]

Very high takeoff speeds.


Yeah, about 200 mph. *THIS* car has even smaller wings and a speed of 200 mph.
 
2014-05-11 06:50:43 PM  

Forbidden Doughnut: AngryDragon: FTA: "With speeds up to 200 miles per hour, the TF-X has a range of 500 miles but requires as few as five hours of training -- and an owner won't even need to convert his or her driveway into a runway."

[i.imgur.com image 460x396]

Agreed.

( just imagine seeing all of the morons that are out thereAngryDragon: teto85: Flying car?  Where the f$%k is my starship?
[i126.photobucket.com image 363x323]

Christian Dark Ages?  I'm pretty sure it was the pagan barbarians that sacked Rome and caused her downfall.  In reality, outside of the Muslim empires under Saladin (who were quite enlightened).   Catholicism was the only bastion of learning anywhere in Europe for almost a thousand years.  So in reality, without religion civilization may have collapsed entirely.

Oh wait, this was a religion bashing circlejerk you were trying to start.  Carry on.

/agnostic
//can't stand revisionist history though

?

What about the Byzantine Empire?

/ granted, they took a turn downhill after 1071 AD....


The Byzantines were really the Middle East and Balkans.  Kinda hard to consider the Balkans part of Europe, even today.
 
2014-05-11 06:54:19 PM  

studebaker hoch: That graph image has been around for years now.  Occasionally someone on one of these threads will say it's incorrect, but then not post any "correct" graph to show their version of the course of scientific advancement.

This Babylonian tablet from around 1,700 BC shows the square root of two, in base 60:

[ocw.nd.edu image 275x275]

The value is accurate to approximately six decimal places, and precise enough for most engineering calculations today.

Humanity had a great start going.

WTF happened?


Carl Sagan on "Cosmos" pointed this out as well. The Ionian Greeks were at the cusp of adopting the Scientific Method, and then Plato & Pythagoras came along and mucked it all up...

/ maybe our intellectual development as a species is always going to be moving in brief fits & starts....and not always forward
 
2014-05-11 06:56:55 PM  
AngryDragon:
?

What about the Byzantine Empire?

/ granted, they took a turn downhill after 1071 AD....

The Byzantines were really the Middle East and Balkans.   Kinda hard to consider the Balkans part of Europe, even today.


Given recent history, you have a good point here...
 
2014-05-11 06:57:18 PM  
I'm sceptical of the Terrafugia. Meanwhile, the Martin Jetpack http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtRUtJlacBI  and the Solotrek http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdX8bkyvpyo are proven technologies.
 
2014-05-11 07:21:08 PM  

Yankees Team Gynecologist: MacWizard: So if your gravity-defying car loses power and you're 15 or 20 feet off the ground, you just have to sit there forever, hoping someone comes to rescue you?

Really?  You can't think of at least 5 solutions to the stranded scenario that are not only 1000x better than the alternative (plummeting to the ground), but also decent enough on their own?


Actually, the solution that immediately came to mind was that upon losing power, the gravity-defying feature slowly fades, lowering you slowly to the ground. Of course, if you were flying above water or say, the Grand Canyon, this could have drawbacks of its own. Buildings and trees could also present problems.

I suppose some sort of cable system for you to escape safely and just leave your flying car where it is would work, too.
 
2014-05-11 07:28:28 PM  

MacWizard: I suppose some sort of cable system for you to escape safely and just leave your flying car where it is would work, too.


I believe Acme makes such a product.

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-05-11 07:50:33 PM  

Yankees Team Gynecologist: It's been said a million times already, but nobody wants mass use of "flying cars"


Period. fark that.

Between 1990 and 2009 there were, annually, some 11 million accidents. And this is with people needing to master all of two dimensions; no way in fark do I want most people having to try to workout three dimensional driving.
 
2014-05-11 08:00:13 PM  
oh jesus just build shiat closer together and that will cut your commute in half
 
2014-05-11 08:11:23 PM  

moothemagiccow: oh jesus just build shiat closer together and that will cut your commute in half


Let's just rebuild everything so it is closer together! That'll create a whole bunch of jobs and solve the unemployment problem, too! Brilliant!
 
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