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(KOIN Portland)   Oregon school district survey given to parents asks, "are you gay?"   (koin.com) divider line 111
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2014-05-10 07:57:44 PM  
I wonder how many students are helpfully filling out this form for their parents?
 
2014-05-10 08:02:26 PM  
I see the don't have an option of "None of your goddamned business".
 
2014-05-10 08:08:34 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: I see the don't have an option of "None of your goddamned business".


It's marked optional, so, just don't answer it if you don't want to share.

It's an optional question on an anonymous survey, the answer to which may provide helpful demographic data in some sort of fashion.  There's really nothing to be outraged over here.
 
2014-05-10 08:10:34 PM  
It took this many posts to point out that it's the Beaverton School District??
 
2014-05-10 08:18:17 PM  

Pocket Ninja: It took this many posts to point out that it's the Beaverton School District??


I would have made a Beavertown joke, but I live near there.
 
2014-05-10 08:21:11 PM  
Well, no

/at the moment I'm a little depressed
//but thanks for asking
 
2014-05-10 08:37:19 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: Benevolent Misanthrope: I see the don't have an option of "None of your goddamned business".

It's marked optional, so, just don't answer it if you don't want to share.

It's an optional question on an anonymous survey, the answer to which may provide helpful demographic data in some sort of fashion.  There's really nothing to be outraged over here.


There is a bit of a difference between staying silent and telling someone that they've asked a question that overstepped.
 
2014-05-10 08:39:28 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: Benevolent Misanthrope: I see the don't have an option of "None of your goddamned business".

It's marked optional, so, just don't answer it if you don't want to share.

It's an optional question on an anonymous survey, the answer to which may provide helpful demographic data in some sort of fashion.  There's really nothing to be outraged over here.


Stop being reasonable!!!
 
2014-05-10 08:41:15 PM  

fusillade762: Pocket Ninja: It took this many posts to point out that it's the Beaverton School District??

I would have made a Beavertown joke, but I live near there.


I spent a whole week in 'Beavertown' once.  Good times.  '
 
2014-05-10 08:42:20 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: TuteTibiImperes: Benevolent Misanthrope: I see the don't have an option of "None of your goddamned business".

It's marked optional, so, just don't answer it if you don't want to share.

It's an optional question on an anonymous survey, the answer to which may provide helpful demographic data in some sort of fashion.  There's really nothing to be outraged over here.

There is a bit of a difference between staying silent and telling someone that they've asked a question that overstepped.


How is giving someone the option of identifying their sexual orientation on an anonymous survey overstepping?
 
2014-05-10 08:49:50 PM  

fusillade762: Pocket Ninja: It took this many posts to point out that it's the Beaverton School District??

I would have made a Beavertown joke, but I live near there.


Isn't that the town that's just up the road from Littlemanontheboatshire?
 
2014-05-10 08:54:55 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: Benevolent Misanthrope: TuteTibiImperes: Benevolent Misanthrope: I see the don't have an option of "None of your goddamned business".

It's marked optional, so, just don't answer it if you don't want to share.

It's an optional question on an anonymous survey, the answer to which may provide helpful demographic data in some sort of fashion.  There's really nothing to be outraged over here.

There is a bit of a difference between staying silent and telling someone that they've asked a question that overstepped.

How is giving someone the option of identifying their sexual orientation on an anonymous survey overstepping?


From my point of view, as someone who has been asked that question as a means of exclusion from schooling or employment, the very idea that a school district wants to know - whether or not they know my name - is going beyond what they need to know to educate a child.  I'm sure there was no malicious intent there - but come on.  A survey like that is pretty-much meaningless for data gathering anyway.

Of course, I can't understand why they ask about parents' race, either.
 
2014-05-10 09:25:58 PM  
How dare they pry into people's private lives like that by asking directly.

They should do like the federal government and all the corporations do -- track it with your purchases, your GPS locations, your phone habits, e-mail surveillance, and thousands of tracking cookies on the web.
 
2014-05-10 10:16:56 PM  
Why do you ask?  You offering?
 
2014-05-10 10:19:54 PM  
i1.ytimg.com
 
2014-05-10 10:22:12 PM  

fusillade762: I wonder how many students are helpfully filling out this form for their parents?


"They grounded me for leaving my phone at Claire's dad's girlfriend's pool party.  They are so totally gay."
 
2014-05-10 10:23:00 PM  
Maybe the school board is thinking about fabulous-ing up their schools a little and wondered if anyone would notice.
 
2014-05-10 10:26:40 PM  
Bend over and let's find out!
 
2014-05-10 10:29:38 PM  
It's almost like all the times I was asked what my race was on different applications and surveys.  Sure, they generally say it's optional too, but the weird thing was "human" was never an option.

Actually, I'm not outraged by an optional question like this on an anonymous survey.

What's the problem?  If everybody says they're straight, do you think they'll start with the gay bashing?
 
2014-05-10 10:31:04 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: TuteTibiImperes: Benevolent Misanthrope: TuteTibiImperes: Benevolent Misanthrope: I see the don't have an option of "None of your goddamned business".

It's marked optional, so, just don't answer it if you don't want to share.

It's an optional question on an anonymous survey, the answer to which may provide helpful demographic data in some sort of fashion.  There's really nothing to be outraged over here.

There is a bit of a difference between staying silent and telling someone that they've asked a question that overstepped.

How is giving someone the option of identifying their sexual orientation on an anonymous survey overstepping?

From my point of view, as someone who has been asked that question as a means of exclusion from schooling or employment, the very idea that a school district wants to know - whether or not they know my name - is going beyond what they need to know to educate a child.  I'm sure there was no malicious intent there - but come on.  A survey like that is pretty-much meaningless for data gathering anyway.

Of course, I can't understand why they ask about parents' race, either.


There are intergration rules floating around, so race does make sense in showing they aren't trying to restart Jim Crow (and I have lived in places that are still butthurt lynching isn't seen as Saturday entertainment, so no, worries about Jim Crow coming back aren't baseless).
 
2014-05-10 10:31:30 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Well, no

/at the moment I'm a little depressed
//but thanks for asking


I was going to say: "Yes! It's the merry merry month of May!"
 
2014-05-10 10:32:32 PM  
"School district officials said the survey is anonymous."

Mr. Swampmaster, we noticed your anonymous complaint in the manager's inbox says you think this company has boundary issues, doesn't trust its employees, and you think the managers snoop... How could you write to complain about this?
 
2014-05-10 10:32:58 PM  

gfid: It's almost like all the times I was asked what my race was on different applications and surveys.  Sure, they generally say it's optional too, but the weird thing was "human" was never an option.

Actually, I'm not outraged by an optional question like this on an anonymous survey.

What's the problem?  If everybody says they're straight, do you think they'll start with the gay bashing?

Well, Kentucky sees gay bashing as a legitimate govermental function, so: yes

 
2014-05-10 10:33:44 PM  

gfid: It's almost like all the times I was asked what my race was on different applications and surveys.  Sure, they generally say it's optional too, but the weird thing was "human" was never an option.

Actually, I'm not outraged by an optional question like this on an anonymous survey.

What's the problem?  If everybody says they're straight, do you think they'll start with the gay bashing?


Why not just write it in? I do.
 
2014-05-10 10:35:47 PM  
Why do you need that information to create a welcome and inclusive learning environment? Can't you just go ahead and create a welcome and inclusive learning environment?
 
2014-05-10 10:36:50 PM  
Race and religion were pretty common questions on school and government forms in the 70's. I used to make things up to fill in the blanks.
 
2014-05-10 10:43:12 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: TuteTibiImperes: Benevolent Misanthrope: TuteTibiImperes: Benevolent Misanthrope: I see the don't have an option of "None of your goddamned business".

It's marked optional, so, just don't answer it if you don't want to share.

It's an optional question on an anonymous survey, the answer to which may provide helpful demographic data in some sort of fashion.  There's really nothing to be outraged over here.

There is a bit of a difference between staying silent and telling someone that they've asked a question that overstepped.

How is giving someone the option of identifying their sexual orientation on an anonymous survey overstepping?

From my point of view, as someone who has been asked that question as a means of exclusion from schooling or employment, the very idea that a school district wants to know - whether or not they know my name - is going beyond what they need to know to educate a child.  I'm sure there was no malicious intent there - but come on.  A survey like that is pretty-much meaningless for data gathering anyway.

Of course, I can't understand why they ask about parents' race, either.


The race question ties into testing and demographics. When the school breaks down the state test scores it looks at different groups to see if there are differences. You can have gap groups of minority students or ones that are low-income or have disabilities. If their scores are significantly lower, than it's something to consider.

It's crunching numbers to identify which student populations need more support.
 
2014-05-10 10:45:55 PM  

phalamir: Benevolent Misanthrope: TuteTibiImperes: Benevolent Misanthrope: TuteTibiImperes: Benevolent Misanthrope: I see the don't have an option of "None of your goddamned business".

It's marked optional, so, just don't answer it if you don't want to share.

It's an optional question on an anonymous survey, the answer to which may provide helpful demographic data in some sort of fashion.  There's really nothing to be outraged over here.

There is a bit of a difference between staying silent and telling someone that they've asked a question that overstepped.

How is giving someone the option of identifying their sexual orientation on an anonymous survey overstepping?

From my point of view, as someone who has been asked that question as a means of exclusion from schooling or employment, the very idea that a school district wants to know - whether or not they know my name - is going beyond what they need to know to educate a child.  I'm sure there was no malicious intent there - but come on.  A survey like that is pretty-much meaningless for data gathering anyway.

Of course, I can't understand why they ask about parents' race, either.

There are intergration rules floating around, so race does make sense in showing they aren't trying to restart Jim Crow (and I have lived in places that are still butthurt lynching isn't seen as Saturday entertainment, so no, worries about Jim Crow coming back aren't baseless).


I was thinking it's just the first year of a long term demographic change study.  If the district sees the percentage of children of same-sex couples increasing, that's useful information to have.  It may mean altering the health/sex-ed curriculum to help dispel myths about same-sex couples so that the kids don't develop biases, or it may mean training the teachers to be careful about saying 'your mom and dad' when talking to students about their parents and using gender-neutral terms instead.

There are plenty of legitimate reasons for the school district to want more detailed demographic information about the families of the kids enrolled.
 
2014-05-10 10:48:21 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: TuteTibiImperes: Benevolent Misanthrope: TuteTibiImperes: Benevolent Misanthrope: I see the don't have an option of "None of your goddamned business".

It's marked optional, so, just don't answer it if you don't want to share.

It's an optional question on an anonymous survey, the answer to which may provide helpful demographic data in some sort of fashion.  There's really nothing to be outraged over here.

There is a bit of a difference between staying silent and telling someone that they've asked a question that overstepped.

How is giving someone the option of identifying their sexual orientation on an anonymous survey overstepping?

From my point of view, as someone who has been asked that question as a means of exclusion from schooling or employment, the very idea that a school district wants to know - whether or not they know my name - is going beyond what they need to know to educate a child.  I'm sure there was no malicious intent there - but come on.  A survey like that is pretty-much meaningless for data gathering anyway.

Of course, I can't understand why they ask about parents' race, either.


If you don't have anything to hide...

I'm not ashamed to tell people I prefer Formula 1 to NASCAR. I don't care if some people think it's racist.
 
2014-05-10 10:52:37 PM  
If the Government asks a question you answer it immediately and with confidence it's going to be used for benevolent purposes. Everyone knows that.
 
2014-05-10 10:56:43 PM  
Far from it.
Faaarr from it.

/Why, why, Manti?
//The feelings the pain that was all real
///Sorry, everybody
 
2014-05-10 10:59:18 PM  
Why do you ask?

i60.tinypic.com
 
2014-05-10 11:02:06 PM  

nekom: TuteTibiImperes: Benevolent Misanthrope: I see the don't have an option of "None of your goddamned business".

It's marked optional, so, just don't answer it if you don't want to share.

It's an optional question on an anonymous survey, the answer to which may provide helpful demographic data in some sort of fashion.  There's really nothing to be outraged over here.

Stop being reasonable!!!


I hate it when people get all reasonable.
 
2014-05-10 11:03:12 PM  

nekom: TuteTibiImperes: Benevolent Misanthrope: I see the don't have an option of "None of your goddamned business".

It's marked optional, so, just don't answer it if you don't want to share.

It's an optional question on an anonymous survey, the answer to which may provide helpful demographic data in some sort of fashion.  There's really nothing to be outraged over here.

Stop being reasonable!!!


I am more outraged over the terrible website. I couldn't read the article cause their shiatty header covered have my phone screen.
 
2014-05-10 11:15:03 PM  
17a. Are you gay?


17b. Does your mother know you are gay?
 
2014-05-10 11:15:38 PM  

flucto: If the Government asks a question you answer it immediately and with confidence it's going to be used for benevolent purposes. Everyone knows that.


So are you gay or what?
 
2014-05-10 11:17:29 PM  
Running a dating service out of the administration research office? Not that there's anything wrong with that.
 
2014-05-10 11:21:57 PM  

mjjt: i60.tinypic.com


I have that fondue pot.
 
2014-05-10 11:23:01 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: Benevolent Misanthrope: I see the don't have an option of "None of your goddamned business".

It's marked optional, so, just don't answer it if you don't want to share.

It's an optional question on an anonymous survey, the answer to which may provide helpful demographic data in some sort of fashion.  There's really nothing to be outraged over here.


And it will be helpful in what way, pray tell?
 
2014-05-10 11:32:36 PM  

fusillade762: Pocket Ninja: It took this many posts to point out that it's the Beaverton School District??

I would have made a Beavertown joke, but I live near there.


Portlanders call it "Beavertron," or "The 'tron"
 
2014-05-10 11:34:40 PM  

CigaretteSmokingMan: TuteTibiImperes: Benevolent Misanthrope: I see the don't have an option of "None of your goddamned business".

It's marked optional, so, just don't answer it if you don't want to share.

It's an optional question on an anonymous survey, the answer to which may provide helpful demographic data in some sort of fashion.  There's really nothing to be outraged over here.

And it will be helpful in what way, pray tell?


So they know how many copies of "The Boy With Two Daddies" to get for the school library.
 
2014-05-10 11:40:17 PM  
26. (Optional) Do you even lift?
O Yes.
O No.
 
2014-05-10 11:42:02 PM  

CigaretteSmokingMan: TuteTibiImperes: Benevolent Misanthrope: I see the don't have an option of "None of your goddamned business".

It's marked optional, so, just don't answer it if you don't want to share.

It's an optional question on an anonymous survey, the answer to which may provide helpful demographic data in some sort of fashion.  There's really nothing to be outraged over here.

And it will be helpful in what way, pray tell?


Policy adjustments and/or yearly figures. If a group in the school district wants to expand gay friendly or gender neutral events or policies they would include something like "Students' parents reporting as homosexual or bisexual increased from 3% to 5% in 2012-13; In the coming years the X School District must consider alternative student and community activities that are of interest and importance to those not identifying as heterosexual."
 
2014-05-10 11:43:34 PM  
ts1.mm.bing.net
Feeling left out.
 
2014-05-10 11:44:23 PM  

Krieghund: CigaretteSmokingMan: TuteTibiImperes: Benevolent Misanthrope: I see the don't have an option of "None of your goddamned business".

It's marked optional, so, just don't answer it if you don't want to share.

It's an optional question on an anonymous survey, the answer to which may provide helpful demographic data in some sort of fashion.  There's really nothing to be outraged over here.

And it will be helpful in what way, pray tell?

So they know how many copies of "The Boy With Two Daddies" to get for the school library.


That joke is so old the comedian who made it has since died.

//Carrot Top, still alive!
 
2014-05-10 11:44:31 PM  
"Are you gay?"

www.totalprosports.com
 
2014-05-10 11:49:17 PM  

djRykoSuave: fusillade762: Pocket Ninja: It took this many posts to point out that it's the Beaverton School District??

I would have made a Beavertown joke, but I live near there.

Portlanders call it "Beavertron," or "The 'tron"


Weird, I lived in Portland most of my life and I don't know anyone who calls it that.
 
2014-05-10 11:51:44 PM  
Well? Are you?
 
2014-05-10 11:52:39 PM  

flucto: mjjt: i60.tinypic.com

I have that fondue pot.


i57.tinypic.com
 
2014-05-10 11:53:29 PM  
"Are you gay?" a pretty (and pretty ditzy) little Russian barmaid once asked me, probably because I was wearing a pink t-shirt and a pearl necklace with a big pink topaz pendant.

"I used to be, dear. But when the homosexuals took over the word 'gay' I switched to being Joyful."

"No, I mean do you like penis?"

"Indeed!  I've been firmly attached to one all my life; wanna see it?"

She gave up and went to get my drink.
 
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