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(KRQE News)   Sheriff that pushed civil forfeiture ordinance finds that having your property seized when you didn't commit the crime really sucks   (krqe.com) divider line 98
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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-05-10 03:30:55 PM
I want to seize submitter's posting privileges for not using the [Ironic] tag.

A lot of repeat offenders are not driving cars they own. In many cases they have long term license suspensions and are not allowed to register cars in their own name. So they grab the keys from the table by the front door and go in wife's / parent's / girlfriend's car. (Yeah, this driver is female, but the stories I read are more often about guys.) It's a gray area under the unauthorized use law, because she never said "here are the keys, go drive" and she never took effective measures to stop him.

In the long term the car won't start unless you are an authorized user with a valid license and all relevant bills, taxes, tolls, fees, surcharges, and tips marked fully paid up in the DMV database.
 
2014-05-10 03:31:10 PM
Solano says the whole process felt "boilerplate" and that the outcome was predetermined. He's now changed his tune on DWI vehicle seizure laws.

"This has changed my perspective on it a lot," Solano said. "Not just because my car was taken but because the whole process just seemed so stacked against you and seemed so unfair."



We have all learned valuable lessons, that's the important thing... *rolls eyes *
 
2014-05-10 03:34:28 PM
Welcome to being a citizen in the world you created, citizen.  Now pick up that can.

ZAZ: I want to seize submitter's posting privileges for not using the [Ironic] tag.


Yeah, appropriate chances to use the Ironic tag are too few to pass up.
 
2014-05-10 04:00:51 PM

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2014-05-10 05:22:13 PM
Well obviously he didn't intend the law to apply to HIM, he figured there would be an exception or something.
 
2014-05-10 05:25:47 PM
What an asshole...
 
2014-05-10 05:26:24 PM
Yes.... YES... More rules! More laws! Ahhhahahahahaha!
 
2014-05-10 05:27:37 PM
Asshole Sheriff seizes other people's property on bogus charges, then sells off the loot.

Wasn't this the premise for a Chuck Norris movie that Rifftrax recently spoofed?

www.zarban.com
 
2014-05-10 05:28:36 PM
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2014-05-10 05:28:44 PM
c1.staticflickr.com

I know it's already here, but the URL is in my clipboard, so
 
2014-05-10 05:30:05 PM

Weaver95: Well obviously he didn't intend the law to apply to HIM, he figured there would be an exception or something.


Most cops think this way dude.

"What?! Speed limit?! Wtf is THAT??!"
 
2014-05-10 05:30:28 PM
FTA:  "On this night I hadn't loaned it to her," said Greg Solano. "I didn't know she was taking it."

I'd call that theft. Charge her! And crush the car so that it's never stolen again.
 
2014-05-10 05:30:46 PM
FTFA:  the city kept the wrecked car under the city's DWI forfeiture law and moved to seize and sell it.

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Sweet Jesus, what a delicious article.  It's so rare to see karma come back, but when it does, sweetness.
 
2014-05-10 05:30:57 PM
" fully confident the city's ordinance is constitutional and will hold up in court. " Like being an assistant, not actually having to think.
We don't care for Santa Fe much, think that other than a few celebs and artisty types, the city is a real scum hole overall. Got the Santa Fe Century coming up, but on the plus side, you're riding out of town. No problems there.
 
2014-05-10 05:32:26 PM

Candygram4Mongo: Solano says the whole process felt "boilerplate" and that the outcome was predetermined. He's now changed his tune on DWI vehicle seizure laws.

"This has changed my perspective on it a lot," Solano said. "Not just because my car was taken but because the whole process just seemed so stacked against you and seemed so unfair."


We have all learned valuable lessons, that's the important thing... *rolls eyes *


It's unfortunate there's no way to foresee the possibility of seizure laws coming back to bite you in the ass.
 
2014-05-10 05:34:30 PM
"This has changed my perspective on it a lot," Solano said. "Not just because my car was taken but because the whole process just seemed so stacked against you and seemed so unfair."


Aaaaaaaaahhhhahahahahahahahaha *snort* hahahahahahahaha!!
 
2014-05-10 05:39:30 PM
Seriously...i think i got a chubby from this article.

Bastard dirty cop works to get a law passed that allows the city to just take someones car. I can just SEE him in news interviews behind a desk being all smug and self-righteous about taking people's vehicles and how its about keeping the public safe from criminals, etc.

Fast forward a bit

"Wait what?! Not MY car! You mean theres NOTHING i can do about it?!?! Waaaaahhhh!"

Omg this seriously made my month lol
 
2014-05-10 05:39:45 PM
As good as this sounds, I hope he wins his court case because it is an unjust law.

And while we're at it, let's do away with all civil forfeiture before a conviction.
 
2014-05-10 05:41:34 PM
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2014-05-10 05:41:53 PM

gfid: As good as this sounds, I hope he wins his court case because it is an unjust law.

And while we're at it, let's do away with all civil forfeiture before a conviction.


Nah..repeal it after his car is sold off.

Serves him right. He IS the one that pushed for this bullshiat law, and no telling how many people had THEIR cars taken...he deserves the same fate if for nothing else than being a fascist pig.
 
2014-05-10 05:45:14 PM
Greg Solano was Santa Fe County sheriff for eight years, resigning in 2010 after he was caught stealing and selling department equipment on eBay.

www.therockatbc.com
One more, for that.
 
2014-05-10 05:45:51 PM
So if he did not say she could use the car, then have him sign an affidavit to that effect and be willing testify against his daughter when they add a count of felony theft on top of the DUI. Then MAYBE I'll believe his story that he did not know she was taking the car...  This would also have the advantage of getting his car replaced by his insurance company as it was stolen.  - I won't hold my breath for that.

/still all forfeiture laws are nothing but government sanctioned theft.
 
2014-05-10 05:46:29 PM
Thing is wouldn't they have to charge his daughter with Grand theft if he didn't give permission to drive his car? She took it without permission and isn't supposed to be driving at all I imagine.
 
2014-05-10 05:46:53 PM
What is it about New Mexico cops that makes them extra-awful?  Between administering enemas, and whining about forfeiture, they're making Tennessee look better.
 
2014-05-10 05:50:52 PM

Just in case you're over there:


lh6.googleusercontent.com

 
2014-05-10 05:51:23 PM

TV's Vinnie: Wasn't this the premise for a Chuck Norris movie that Rifftrax recently spoofed?


I like the fact that one of the angry truckers is crashing into things with a tanker truck. What could possibly go wrong?
 
2014-05-10 05:55:45 PM

The more you eat the more you fart: gfid: As good as this sounds, I hope he wins his court case because it is an unjust law.

And while we're at it, let's do away with all civil forfeiture before a conviction.

Nah..repeal it after his car is sold off.

Serves him right. He IS the one that pushed for this bullshiat law, and no telling how many people had THEIR cars taken...he deserves the same fate if for nothing else than being a fascist pig.


While I want bad things to happen to this asshole, it would be better for the ordinance to be ruled unconstitutional.  Ideally, with the judge ordering the city to return everything they've ever stolen with it, and making them responsible for finding, buying back, and returning to original condition anything they've already sold.  (I know, that'll never happen, but it would be justice.)
 
2014-05-10 05:55:47 PM

Huggermugger: What is it about New Mexico cops that makes them extra-awful?  Between administering enemas, and whining about forfeiture, they're making Tennessee look better.


Lack of oversight. Ask ten strangers at random if New Mexico is part of the United States. More people know what gluten is.
 
2014-05-10 06:00:43 PM
Lmfao this just gets better and better. Looks like the apple didnt fall far from the tree.

So...counterfeiting and drunk driving. She needs to be in prison.


Former sheriff's daughter faces counterfeiting charges: http://youtu.be/0l1w7fCrGiU
 
2014-05-10 06:02:16 PM
"This has changed my perspective on it a lot," Solano said. "Not just because my car was taken but because the whole process just seemed so stacked against you and seemed so unfair."

Riiiiight. I'm sure you can to that conclusion after witnessing it countless times in the 8 years you were selling stolen gear on ebay enforcing it. It's not at all fishy that you're coming out against it, once it's been brought to bear against YOU.
 
2014-05-10 06:03:47 PM
Seems like a metaphor for all Republican moves and people who support them:

I didn't know things would be terrible because we allowed rich guys to buy and sell politicians.
I didn't know things would be awful because we removed all safeguards that protect our environment.
I didn't know out kids would die in huge quantities because we didn't believe in science.
etc.
 
2014-05-10 06:04:07 PM
Solano says while he doesn't regret that law's effect keeping some drunk drivers off the road, he now believes a lot of innocent people are losing their cars because of the law.

If you thought that before it impacted you, I might have had some sympathy. Some.

As it is...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
 
2014-05-10 06:05:17 PM

gfid: And while we're at it, let's do away with all civil forfeiture before a conviction.


I'd go one more step - eliminate all civil forfeiture.  Make it criminal forfeiture, period.  If the government wants to take property from you, they should have to provide a public defender and run it past a court.
 
2014-05-10 06:05:35 PM
Came for Nelson, leaving very happy.
 
2014-05-10 06:07:42 PM
"Solano said. "Not just because my car was taken but because the whole process just seemed so stacked against you and seemed so unfair.""

Now that it's your turn, you don't like it.

Fark you, you coonting ex pig.

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2014-05-10 06:08:08 PM
DEAL WITH IT!


You hypocritical piece of trash, pig.
 
2014-05-10 06:09:26 PM
Still not nearly enough.

TFA: Greg Solano was Santa Fe County sheriff for eight years, resigning in 2010 after he was caught stealing and selling department equipment on eBay.

This asshat steals from the cops and is allowed to just resign? WTF?

/I don't know... or care enough to find out if he got probation or something as a 1st time offender.
 
2014-05-10 06:11:31 PM
Sweet, sweet irony.

Also:

Greg Solano was Santa Fe County sheriff for eight years, resigning in 2010 after he was caught stealing and selling department equipment on eBay.

WTF? lol!
 
2014-05-10 06:12:06 PM
Awesome! The foot's on the other shoe now asshole.
 
2014-05-10 06:13:23 PM
The more you eat the more you fart:
Seriously...i think i got a chubby from this article.

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Also:

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2014-05-10 06:17:58 PM

Snarfangel: Solano says while he doesn't regret that law's effect keeping some drunk drivers off the road, he now believes a lot of innocent people are losing their cars because of the law.

If you thought that before it impacted you, I might have had some sympathy. Some.

As it is...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


Why do we hate people for learning things the hard way? If you're going to be an ass to someone for coming over to your side later than you liked, don't be surprised if they stopped coming at all.
 
2014-05-10 06:18:54 PM

Alonjar: Sweet, sweet irony.

Also:

Greg Solano was Santa Fe County sheriff for eight years, resigning in 2010 after he was caught stealing and selling department equipment on eBay.

WTF? lol!



This restores my faith in karma, and I can only hope a movie comes out about it.
 
2014-05-10 06:20:12 PM
Some details on his stealing stuff:

http://sfcrime.wordpress.com/2011/10/28/former-sheriff-greg-solano-h as -officially-been-released-from-jail/

He served 6 weeks of a 12 week sentence for FIVE FELONY FRAUD CONVICTIONS!

Wow.
 
2014-05-10 06:20:33 PM

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: Just in case you're over there:
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I guffawed
 
2014-05-10 06:21:38 PM

weapon13: "Solano said. "Not just because my car was taken but because the whole process just seemed so stacked against you and seemed so unfair.""

Now that it's your turn, you don't like it.

Fark you, you coonting ex pig.

HAHA.jpeg


The entire crux of the "conservative problem." A lack of empathy, coupled to a sense of righteousness, and you end up watching people in authority creating such rules - after all, those rules will never be applied to them, because they are righteous, and those rules should be applied without fail or mitigation, because they don't have to care.

The second, the nanosecond, that they are subject to those rules? Yeah, suddenly it's "but it's not fair" and "but I didn't really do anything," as they discover what it's like to be on the other side of the wall they so righteously, so ruthlessly constructed.
 
2014-05-10 06:23:37 PM

gfid: Some details on his stealing stuff:

http://sfcrime.wordpress.com/2011/10/28/former-sheriff-greg-solano-h as -officially-been-released-from-jail/

He served 6 weeks of a 12 week sentence for FIVE FELONY FRAUD CONVICTIONS!

Wow.


Bc..cops.

/thin blue line bullshiat
 
2014-05-10 06:24:37 PM

LoneWolf343: Snarfangel: Solano says while he doesn't regret that law's effect keeping some drunk drivers off the road, he now believes a lot of innocent people are losing their cars because of the law.

If you thought that before it impacted you, I might have had some sympathy. Some.

As it is...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Why do we hate people for learning things the hard way? If you're going to be an ass to someone for coming over to your side later than you liked, don't be surprised if they stopped coming at all.


If a granny pushes for Prohibition, don't expect me to cry when she's busted for bathtub gin. The time to reflect on the consequences of a law are before you advocate it, not after it affects you.

/The more I hear about this story, the funnier it is.
 
2014-05-10 06:26:36 PM

Snarfangel: LoneWolf343: Snarfangel: Solano says while he doesn't regret that law's effect keeping some drunk drivers off the road, he now believes a lot of innocent people are losing their cars because of the law.

If you thought that before it impacted you, I might have had some sympathy. Some.

As it is...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Why do we hate people for learning things the hard way? If you're going to be an ass to someone for coming over to your side later than you liked, don't be surprised if they stopped coming at all.

If a granny pushes for Prohibition, don't expect me to cry when she's busted for bathtub gin. The time to reflect on the consequences of a law are before you advocate it, not after it affects you.

/The more I hear about this story, the funnier it is.


Agreed. Lol
 
2014-05-10 06:27:02 PM

FormlessOne: weapon13: "Solano said. "Not just because my car was taken but because the whole process just seemed so stacked against you and seemed so unfair.""

Now that it's your turn, you don't like it.

Fark you, you coonting ex pig.

HAHA.jpeg

The entire crux of the "conservative problem." A lack of empathy, coupled to a sense of righteousness, and you end up watching people in authority creating such rules - after all, those rules will never be applied to them, because they are righteous, and those rules should be applied without fail or mitigation, because they don't have to care.

The second, the nanosecond, that they are subject to those rules? Yeah, suddenly it's "but it's not fair" and "but I didn't really do anything," as they discover what it's like to be on the other side of the wall they so righteously, so ruthlessly constructed.


He's a Democrat.

I know, this is where you tell me that Democrats can be conservative too, right?
 
2014-05-10 06:27:35 PM

Snarfangel: Solano says while he doesn't regret that law's effect keeping some drunk drivers off the road, he now believes a lot of innocent people are losing their cars because of the law.

If you thought that before it impacted you, I might have had some sympathy. Some.

As it is...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


Whole Lotta this.
 
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