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(Entertainment Weekly)   It seems JJ Abrams has passed the Star Trek director's lensflare on to Roberto Orci   (popwatch.ew.com ) divider line
    More: Followup, Roberto Orci, Star Trek, J.J. Abrams, Star Trek 3, Alex Kurtzman, Star Trek Into Darkness, Damon Lindelof, Sleepy Hollow  
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2014-05-10 04:56:03 PM  
Well, doing one high profile "Star ____" movie kind of leaves little time to do the other high profile "Star ____" movie...
 
2014-05-10 05:04:38 PM  
Alright nerds, tell me: should I be outraged or ecstatic?
 
2014-05-10 05:08:23 PM  

HMS_Blinkin: Alright nerds, tell me: should I be outraged or ecstatic?


whaynotboth.jif
 
2014-05-10 05:13:22 PM  
Would Paramount be dumb enough to pass on the franchise to a guy who has never directed?

Okay, that's a stupid question. Of course they are. But, seriously, they wouldn't try to get someone else?
 
2014-05-10 05:15:43 PM  
At first I was like, "The guy who directed Gravity? Sweet!"

But now I'm sad.
 
2014-05-10 05:34:10 PM  
approximate picture of director

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2014-05-10 05:34:13 PM  
Isnt Orci a huge Star Trek geek himself? I mean I'm no trekkie but my guess is that the problems the nerds have might all be Lindelof's doing.
 
2014-05-10 05:36:27 PM  
Looking at IMDB this guy already seems to have A LOT on his plate.
 
2014-05-10 06:23:23 PM  
Aaaaand I just got a massive... soft-on.
 
2014-05-10 06:24:15 PM  
I would ask when Orci and the other two clowns who write for JJ sold their soul to Satan but I think Satan has more integrity than that. But if he's busy doing the fake Star trek movies he won't have time to fark with Star Wars.
 
2014-05-10 06:49:52 PM  

HMS_Blinkin: Alright nerds, tell me: should I be outraged or ecstatic?


Neither. You should be glad you aren't a nerd, because nerds are both depressed and resigned at this development.
 
2014-05-10 06:57:48 PM  

HMS_Blinkin: Alright nerds, tell me: should I be outraged or ecstatic?


For nerds, all occasions are occasions for outrage.

/nerd
//waiting for more info before outraging, but will most likely rage over something
 
2014-05-10 06:59:45 PM  
Orci is a TV guy first and a movie guy second.
 
2014-05-10 07:07:21 PM  

Any Pie Left: Orci is a TV guy first and a movie guy second.


I think something like three JJ Abrams TV shows just got cancelled. How many of those was he involved with? He might not be very busy at the moment.
 
2014-05-10 07:24:51 PM  

Enfenestrate: Any Pie Left: Orci is a TV guy first and a movie guy second.

I think something like three JJ Abrams TV shows just got cancelled. How many of those was he involved with? He might not be very busy at the moment.


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As I mentioned earlier, he seems pretty goddamn busy already.
 
2014-05-10 07:40:16 PM  
I wonder if he'll keep the magic warp device that can transfer a starship from the Moon to LEO in three lines of dialogue.
 
2014-05-10 07:45:20 PM  
Ugh, where else is there to go with Star Trek? You had your origin story and then a spin off of Wrath of Khan...where else can you go in a movie? There might be potential to do some kind of build up to a war with Klingons or even Romulans. I think the destruction of Vulcan left a lot of possible opportunities to create stories but not with just a single movie. I would say maybe a movie where the Enterprise is on their 5 year deep space mission and they find something might be interesting. But Star Trek 2 basically ruined any drama of having the Enterprise damaged beyond repair or it's crew dying. The crew were basically throw-aways despite how much Kirk said he cared for his crew.

I think the best route would be a movie leading up to a war. Kirk and his crew get involved in something, action happens, the plot is resolved but in the end they couldn't stop the Klingons or Romulans from declaring war on the Federation.
 
2014-05-10 08:07:57 PM  

Any Pie Left: Orci is a TV guy first and a movie guy second.


Actually he's neither. What he is first apparently involves knee pads.
 
2014-05-10 08:09:16 PM  
LOL - Orci has basically failed his way up through Hollywood's ranks.  This is hilarious.  "I wrote the Transformers movies" - Nice resume, douchebag.  ROTFLMAO.

He probably rolls around in a bed of money, but I wouldn't trade my life with him for a minute.  What a joke.
 
2014-05-10 08:22:47 PM  
Nerd tears are so sweet. Yes, cry about how everything is ruined forever.
 
2014-05-10 08:23:13 PM  

HMS_Blinkin: Alright nerds, tell me: should I be outraged or ecstatic?


It depends. If you think cohesive plot lines are a hindrance to movies and you want more "stuff happens, then magic blood" you are in for a treat. If not, you may want to save your money when number 3 hits the theaters.

SunsetLament: LOL - Orci has basically failed his way up through Hollywood's ranks.  This is hilarious.  "I wrote the Transformers movies" - Nice resume, douchebag.  ROTFLMAO.

He probably rolls around in a bed of money, but I wouldn't trade my life with him for a minute.  What a joke.


I honestly have no idea how Orci keeps getting work. The only explanation I can come up with is his movies do well internationally because what he writes is so god awful.
 
2014-05-10 08:23:26 PM  

SunsetLament: LOL - Orci has basically failed his way up through Hollywood's ranks.  This is hilarious.  "I wrote the Transformers movies" - Nice resume, douchebag.  ROTFLMAO.

He probably rolls around in a bed of money, but I wouldn't trade my life with him for a minute.  What a joke.


That would explain the way Kirk is handled in the rebooted franchise. Spock, Sulu, McCoy, Chekov, Scotty and Uhura are all either better or as good as the original versions of the characters.
 
2014-05-10 08:29:21 PM  

fusillade762: As I mentioned earlier, he seems pretty goddamn busy already.


He's almost pure schlock. He's the crystallized capsaicin  of schlock media, so he's going to be busy till he is laying on his deathbed. The western world is imploding culturally so he'll be worked to death as opposed to die poor, penniless and alone.
 
2014-05-10 08:36:35 PM  
If this means he's too busy to "write" then I say heck, let him star in it, too!
 
2014-05-10 08:37:22 PM  
Oh look, another lens flare joke. That wasn't even funny the first time I heard it.

Never heard of this Orci dude. From this thread it sounds like a younger version of Michael Bay. So haha, serves you Trek nerds right!

And don't forget, we took JJ away because Star Wars will always be better than Star Trek because lightsabers motherfarkers.
 
2014-05-10 08:46:08 PM  

Cymbal: Oh look, another lens flare joke. That wasn't even funny the first time I heard it.

Never heard of this Orci dude. From this thread it sounds like a younger version of Michael Bay. So haha, serves you Trek nerds right!

And don't forget, we took JJ away because Star Wars will always be better than Star Trek because lightsabers motherfarkers.


Wait... you think having JJ is a good thing?
 
2014-05-10 09:14:44 PM  

Cymbal: Oh look, another lens flare joke. That wasn't even funny the first time I heard it.

Never heard of this Orci dude. From this thread it sounds like a younger version of Michael Bay. So haha, serves you Trek nerds right!

And don't forget, we took JJ away because Star Wars will always be better than Star Trek because lightsabers motherfarkers.


Oh look, another bash Trek nerds comment. That wasn't even funny the first time I heard it.
 
2014-05-10 09:20:12 PM  

MightyPez: HMS_Blinkin: Alright nerds, tell me: should I be outraged or ecstatic?

It depends. If you think cohesive plot lines are a hindrance to movies and you want more "stuff happens, then magic blood" you are in for a treat. If not, you may want to save your money when number 3 hits the theaters.



So, the magic blood was not believable, but the device that can break people down to a molecular level, then instantaneoulsy transport them to somewhere miles away is perfectly cohesive?

There's a reason Trekkies are mocked.

And yes, I enjoyed the "stuff happens" aspect of the latest movies. Way better than the old ones, which often played out with all the excitement of a city council meeting in space.
 
2014-05-10 09:22:36 PM  
I can't not think of "Orci" as the Ball Man. Polyorchidism vs. monorchidism. It's all balls to me.
 
2014-05-10 09:28:11 PM  
Trek is over. Trek is dead.  Drowned in the rising tide of moronic culture and the oncoming Idiocracy.

Western Civilization was good while it lasted....

/the future will be powered by large clear tubes of water
 
2014-05-10 09:41:44 PM  

mark12A: Trek is over. Trek is dead.  Drowned in the rising tide of moronic culture and the oncoming Idiocracy.

Western Civilization was good while it lasted....

/the future will be powered by large clear tubes of water


The only thing we are is what we were. Read Suetonius, and the Plinys. As a species we're losing skills and brain mass.
 
2014-05-10 09:54:03 PM  
Just as long as they retain the Deus Ex Machina writing form then Star Trek will never die.
 
2014-05-10 09:59:36 PM  

stoli n coke: MightyPez: HMS_Blinkin: Alright nerds, tell me: should I be outraged or ecstatic?

It depends. If you think cohesive plot lines are a hindrance to movies and you want more "stuff happens, then magic blood" you are in for a treat. If not, you may want to save your money when number 3 hits the theaters.


So, the magic blood was not believable, but the device that can break people down to a molecular level, then instantaneoulsy transport them to somewhere miles away is perfectly cohesive?

There's a reason Trekkies are mocked.

And yes, I enjoyed the "stuff happens" aspect of the latest movies. Way better than the old ones, which often played out with all the excitement of a city council meeting in space.


It's not the technical feasibility of "magic blood" it's that he is using it in all his movies now. And "stuff happens" is a kind way of saying "no points of the movie connect together in a way to have any of them make sense." It isn't a trekkie thing, it's a "this guy is an awful story teller" thing.
 
Skr
2014-05-10 10:12:44 PM  

ActionJoe: Ugh, where else is there to go with Star Trek? You had your origin story and then a spin off of Wrath of Khan...where else can you go in a movie? There might be potential to do some kind of build up to a war with Klingons or even Romulans. I think the destruction of Vulcan left a lot of possible opportunities to create stories but not with just a single movie. I would say maybe a movie where the Enterprise is on their 5 year deep space mission and they find something might be interesting. But Star Trek 2 basically ruined any drama of having the Enterprise damaged beyond repair or it's crew dying. The crew were basically throw-aways despite how much Kirk said he cared for his crew.

I think the best route would be a movie leading up to a war. Kirk and his crew get involved in something, action happens, the plot is resolved but in the end they couldn't stop the Klingons or Romulans from declaring war on the Federation.


Next step will be time travel. It is always time travel.
 
2014-05-10 10:16:26 PM  

Skr: ActionJoe: Ugh, where else is there to go with Star Trek? You had your origin story and then a spin off of Wrath of Khan...where else can you go in a movie? There might be potential to do some kind of build up to a war with Klingons or even Romulans. I think the destruction of Vulcan left a lot of possible opportunities to create stories but not with just a single movie. I would say maybe a movie where the Enterprise is on their 5 year deep space mission and they find something might be interesting. But Star Trek 2 basically ruined any drama of having the Enterprise damaged beyond repair or it's crew dying. The crew were basically throw-aways despite how much Kirk said he cared for his crew.

I think the best route would be a movie leading up to a war. Kirk and his crew get involved in something, action happens, the plot is resolved but in the end they couldn't stop the Klingons or Romulans from declaring war on the Federation.

Next step will be time travel. It is always time travel.


I thought that was the first step in this reboot series?
 
2014-05-10 10:43:59 PM  
What they really need to do now is a gritty "Batman Begins" style re-boot and call it "Star Trek Wars" and wait for the internet to collapse.
 
2014-05-10 10:45:45 PM  

stoli n coke: MightyPez: HMS_Blinkin: Alright nerds, tell me: should I be outraged or ecstatic?

It depends. If you think cohesive plot lines are a hindrance to movies and you want more "stuff happens, then magic blood" you are in for a treat. If not, you may want to save your money when number 3 hits the theaters.


So, the magic blood was not believable, but the device that can break people down to a molecular level, then instantaneoulsy transport them to somewhere miles away is perfectly cohesive?

There's a reason Trekkies are mocked.

And yes, I enjoyed the "stuff happens" aspect of the latest movies. Way better than the old ones, which often played out with all the excitement of a city council meeting in space.


The reason you're being mocked is because you have bad taste and are ignorant of the fact that real scientists in the real world have teleported real atoms across real space.  So yeah, the Transporter is perfectly cohesive and the magic blood isn't believable.
 
2014-05-10 10:57:31 PM  
I love threads like this.  Really puts things into perspective when you see people getting enraged over silly shiat like this.
 
2014-05-10 11:12:03 PM  

mark12A: Trek is over. Trek is dead.  Drowned in the rising tide of moronic culture and the oncoming Idiocracy.

Western Civilization was good while it lasted....

/the future will be powered by large clear tubes of water


Um, there's a shiatload of good stuff to read and watch these days, so much so that It is hard to keep up. Sure, there is a lot of crap, but it has always been that way. There's more great stuff out there, though.
 
2014-05-10 11:16:51 PM  

Infernalist: I love threads like this.  Really puts things into perspective when you see people getting enraged over silly shiat like this.


fark you, fark lenseflare, fark TREK/WARS BS... gimmi a Mudd (hell even sub plot), and I'm in like a fat kid on a smartie. I don't care who directs it, if the writer doesn't shiat the bed...
 
2014-05-10 11:40:10 PM  

HawgWild: Would Paramount be dumb enough to pass on the franchise to a guy who has never directed?

Okay, that's a stupid question.


Of course it's a stupid question.

gallerytheimage.com
 
2014-05-11 12:03:27 AM  
To Star Wars fans,
From Star Trek fans:

livingincinema.com
YOU'RE NEXT! YOU'RE NEXT!
 
2014-05-11 12:10:59 AM  

B.L.Z. Bub: HawgWild: Would Paramount be dumb enough to pass on the franchise to a guy who has never directed?

Okay, that's a stupid question.

Of course it's a stupid question.

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IMDB says he directed 10 episodes of TJ Hooker before that, fwiw.
 
2014-05-11 12:43:53 AM  
Star Trek 3 is going to be worse than cancer...
 
2014-05-11 01:09:02 AM  

stoli n coke: MightyPez: HMS_Blinkin: Alright nerds, tell me: should I be outraged or ecstatic?

It depends. If you think cohesive plot lines are a hindrance to movies and you want more "stuff happens, then magic blood" you are in for a treat. If not, you may want to save your money when number 3 hits the theaters.


So, the magic blood was not believable, but the device that can break people down to a molecular level, then instantaneoulsy transport them to somewhere miles away is perfectly cohesive?

There's a reason Trekkies are mocked.

And yes, I enjoyed the "stuff happens" aspect of the latest movies. Way better than the old ones, which often played out with all the excitement of a city council meeting in space.


The reason "magic blood" is not believable is because Star Wars is a Fantasy story in space. Sure, it has some space technology and everything, but at its core it is a Fantasy story. "Magic blood" goes against that.

Transporters work in Star Trek because Star Trek is a Sci-Fi story.
 
2014-05-11 01:27:26 AM  

Empty H: The reason "magic blood" is not believable is because Star Wars is a Fantasy story in space. Sure, it has some space technology and everything, but at its core it is a Fantasy story. "Magic blood" goes against that.


Wait, magic goes against fantasy?
 
2014-05-11 01:44:24 AM  

B.L.Z. Bub: Empty H: The reason "magic blood" is not believable is because Star Wars is a Fantasy story in space. Sure, it has some space technology and everything, but at its core it is a Fantasy story. "Magic blood" goes against that.

Wait, magic goes against fantasy?


I was using the OPs false terminology in an effort not to lose him in the explanation. What he refereed to as "magic blood" was actually just normal blood with added organelles. Adding these organelles removed the fantasy.
 
2014-05-11 02:34:51 AM  

B.L.Z. Bub: Empty H: The reason "magic blood" is not believable is because Star Wars is a Fantasy story in space. Sure, it has some space technology and everything, but at its core it is a Fantasy story. "Magic blood" goes against that.

Wait, magic goes against fantasy?


Lizard poisons Spock.
 
2014-05-11 04:47:20 AM  
I mainly just want to know how this trio went from making (what used to be, anyway) one of Fark's favorite TV series (Fringe) to being treated like a mole that fell off Kim Kardashian's ass. I mean, I get the recent hate but really want to understand what happened. Bad LSD? Lack there-of? Being associated with Trek?

/and Cloverfield was one of the best giant monster movies in ages
//sorry you're too old to tolerate 'found footage' films
 
2014-05-11 04:48:07 AM  

CyberKultist: I mainly just want to know how this trio went from making (what used to be, anyway) one of Fark's favorite TV series (Fringe) to being treated like a mole that fell off Kim Kardashian's ass. I mean, I get the recent hate but really want to understand what happened. Bad LSD? Lack there-of? Being associated with Trek?

/and Cloverfield was one of the best giant monster movies in ages
//sorry you're too old to tolerate 'found footage' films


*Trek reboot. Learn to finish a thought dipshiat.
 
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