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(Digital Trends)   Science borrows techniques learned from bombardier beetles and porn to safeguard ATMs against tampering, promises skimmers could soon get a faceful of hot DNA if they tamper with machines   (digitaltrends.com ) divider line
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2014-05-10 11:28:07 AM  
Uncertain if can fap to this...
 
2014-05-10 11:28:10 AM  
imageshack.com
 
2014-05-10 12:38:52 PM  
You mean an ATM machine could shoot DNA acid at me?!
 
2014-05-10 12:42:07 PM  

zamboni: You mean an ATM machine could shoot DNA acid at me?!

img.fark.net
 
2014-05-10 12:46:27 PM  
Sometimes, in the heat of the moment, it's forgiveable to go ATM.
 
2014-05-10 12:55:01 PM  
Porn and hot DNA on your face?  Come again?
 
2014-05-10 02:33:18 PM  
umm.. how do you tamper with an ATM successfully and enough times that this is a problem that needs a solution?
 
2014-05-10 02:40:23 PM  
ATMs having orgasms. We are closer to artificial intelligence than I thought.
 
2014-05-10 02:40:48 PM  
Geez just use a skimmer like a normal person.
 
2014-05-10 02:43:24 PM  
1. Get a hot load in the face

2. Receive money

Nothing new.
 
2014-05-10 02:52:00 PM  
So, subby has no idea how skimmers work.

/Hint: they aren't breaking into the ATM, they are gluing crap on the front of it.
//I don't want to know how they manufacture the "DNA nanoparticles"
 
2014-05-10 02:54:30 PM  

dahmers love zombie: Uncertain if can fap to this...


Tamper with my Y-fronts and you can expect a similar outcome.
 
2014-05-10 03:13:45 PM  

fang06554: So, subby has no idea how skimmers work.

/Hint: they aren't breaking into the ATM, they are gluing crap on the front of it.
//I don't want to know how they manufacture the "DNA nanoparticles"


It's a three-letter word beginning with an "f."
 
2014-05-10 03:21:54 PM  
This is meant to discourage tampering, right?
 
2014-05-10 03:43:19 PM  
Still want to know why this is ok, but rigging a shotgun filled with rock-salt to my door isn't?
 
2014-05-10 03:49:50 PM  
the coming together of the two chemicals causes "a violent reaction that produces water vapor, oxygen and heat," with the sprayed foam reaching a temperature of as high as 80 degrees.

So they get sprayed in the face with warm water? OH THE HORROR!

/heh
 
2014-05-10 03:55:16 PM  
Once people learn of this I doubt the film could last for a day without accidentally getting scratched on purpose.
 
2014-05-10 03:58:46 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: the coming together of the two chemicals causes "a violent reaction that produces water vapor, oxygen and heat," with the sprayed foam reaching a temperature of as high as 80 degrees.

So they get sprayed in the face with warm water? OH THE HORROR!

/heh


I suspect that is in Celsius.
 
2014-05-10 04:01:29 PM  

ReverendJynxed: Still want to know why this is ok, but rigging a shotgun filled with rock-salt to my door isn't?


I suspect the same reason money laundering for a drug cartel lands you in jail, unless you're HSBC.
 
2014-05-10 04:31:10 PM  

Yaw String: ArcadianRefugee: the coming together of the two chemicals causes "a violent reaction that produces water vapor, oxygen and heat," with the sprayed foam reaching a temperature of as high as 80 degrees.

So they get sprayed in the face with warm water? OH THE HORROR!

/heh

I suspect that is in Celsius.


I didn't think it was in Kelvin.

/jokes and all that
 
2014-05-10 05:15:35 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: Yaw String: ArcadianRefugee: the coming together of the two chemicals causes "a violent reaction that produces water vapor, oxygen and heat," with the sprayed foam reaching a temperature of as high as 80 degrees.

So they get sprayed in the face with warm water? OH THE HORROR!

/heh

I suspect that is in Celsius.

I didn't think it was in Kelvin.

/jokes and all that


You know... that was my first thought... but 80 C is pretty damned hot. Imagine getting that foam sprayed in your face. Bad enough on skin, but what about eyes, nasal cavities, etc.

That's 176 degrees F. McDonalds got sued because they served coffee at 180-190 F and a woman got 3rd degree burns when she spilled it on herself. Just imagine 80 C foam sticking to your face and eyes, then on your hands and going down your throat as you scream in pain and try to wipe it away.

The Swiss must have absolutely no personal injury lawyers. grumpycatgood.jpg

Of course, 80 F wouldn't be unpleasant enough. Sounds like a good shaving foam temperature or the temperature that the British prefer their beer.

/if I could work tipping and bacon into this... it could've been epic
 
2014-05-10 07:11:24 PM  

zamboni: ArcadianRefugee: Yaw String: ArcadianRefugee: the coming together of the two chemicals causes "a violent reaction that produces water vapor, oxygen and heat," with the sprayed foam reaching a temperature of as high as 80 degrees.

So they get sprayed in the face with warm water? OH THE HORROR!

/heh

I suspect that is in Celsius.

I didn't think it was in Kelvin.

/jokes and all that

You know... that was my first thought... but 80 C is pretty damned hot. Imagine getting that foam sprayed in your face. Bad enough on skin, but what about eyes, nasal cavities, etc.

That's 176 degrees F. McDonalds got sued because they served coffee at 180-190 F and a woman got 3rd degree burns when she spilled it on herself. Just imagine 80 C foam sticking to your face and eyes, then on your hands and going down your throat as you scream in pain and try to wipe it away.

The Swiss must have absolutely no personal injury lawyers. grumpycatgood.jpg

Of course, 80 F wouldn't be unpleasant enough. Sounds like a good shaving foam temperature or the temperature that the British prefer their beer.

/if I could work tipping and bacon into this... it could've been epic


Heh.

I'm thinking that the liquid, when created slash first mixed, is 80C, but that since it is being ejected as a "foam" that by the time it hits your face ~2' away it has cooled quite a bit. Also, there is the simple fact that it is a foam and not a simlarly-volumed jet of liquid -- less mass, so less energy to impart and thus not as nasty a burn.
 
2014-05-10 07:24:07 PM  

ReverendJynxed: Still want to know why this is ok, but rigging a shotgun filled with rock-salt to my door isn't?


Appropriate force doctrine.
 
2014-05-10 08:12:47 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: Heh.

I'm thinking that the liquid, when created slash first mixed, is 80C, but that since it is being ejected as a "foam" that by the time it hits your face ~2' away it has cooled quite a bit. Also, there is the simple fact that it is a foam and not a simlarly-volumed jet of liquid -- less mass, so less energy to impart and thus not as nasty a burn.


Also true. And, I get what you mean.

But I guess I think of foam being a bit more... tenacious. Plus, it's filled with the heated gas that created it. Quickly. And what's in the foam fercrissakes? I cry when I get shampoo in the eyes. (Why not pepper spray with dye? We already have that.... that would discourage me. Look for a screaming purple guy!)
 
2014-05-10 08:23:43 PM  

kvinesknows: umm.. how do you tamper with an ATM successfully and enough times that this is a problem that needs a solution?


Well, I think protecting consumers is a worthwhile goal, even if tampering is rare. But why the "revenge" response? If the ATM can detect tampering, then a) record the perp, b) alert the ATM owner and police, and c) shut down the ATM to protect the money and people's identities until it can be repaired.
 
2014-05-11 07:47:02 AM  
So the banks are now literally pissing on you as part of the transaction, sadly I am not surprised.
 
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