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2014-05-10 10:39:18 AM  
0.89
 
2014-05-10 11:27:02 AM  
We're talking minimum, right?
 
2014-05-10 12:42:47 PM  

dahmers love zombie: We're talking minimum, right?


Dammit.
 
2014-05-10 02:06:47 PM  
Da blyat?
 
2014-05-10 02:11:36 PM  
BMP pretty sure. Not a tank.
 
2014-05-10 02:12:51 PM  
Boy , he must have been really *sunglasses on* tanked.
 
2014-05-10 02:23:41 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: dahmers love zombie: We're talking minimum, right?

Dammit.


<golf clap>
 
2014-05-10 03:31:54 PM  
This is why you always check before you follow the directions from the GPS to "Turn left NOW!"
 
2014-05-10 03:46:13 PM  
Umm, the text in the YouTube says the tank knocked down a billboard urging people to come to the May 11 referendum. Maybe the tank was opposed to the referendum.

Правила дорожного движения от Украинской армии. Мариуполь 09.05. 2014

На рекламном щите, который снесла техника находился призыв к Мариупольцам прийти на референдум 11 мая

Rules of the road from the Ukrainian army. Mariupol 09.05. 2014

On the billboard, which was demolished equipment Mariupol call to come to the May 11 referendum
 
2014-05-10 04:18:23 PM  
Boy , he must have been really *sunglasses on* tanked.

Maybe, he was just ..... gassed !
 
2014-05-10 07:43:40 PM  
No one saw the Ukrainian flag on the second tank?
 
2014-05-10 08:01:58 PM  
Reminds me of this day in San Diego:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnUoUKEIGoo  Police had to wait for him to high point it on the center divider when he tried to take down a pedestrian bridge.
 
2014-05-10 09:07:36 PM  

Daedalus27: Reminds me of this day in San Diego:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnUoUKEIGoo  Police had to wait for him to high point it on the center divider when he tried to take down a pedestrian bridge.


Oh right, thats where the police murdered the dude.
 
2014-05-10 09:10:41 PM  
Mariupol is in the Ukraine; and yes, 2nd tank has Ukraine Blue and Yellow flag flying from its aerial. And given the state of both the Ukraine regular Army, the called up reserves and the official Militia; having men snokered while serving in the front lines is normal... some times you fight the war with what shows up... and that includes alcoholic soldiers ( and those who think being called up is one big party, live ammo, vodak, and driving tanks thru road signs!) And remember, usually the most junior guy has to be the driver! So watch out when there is any military convoy on a street near your house!

PS:  Been in tanks which have hit houses, bridge abutments, slid off roads, and also seen tanks hit cars quite a few times... 25 yrs US Army (both Tank and Inf. Mech units!).
 
2014-05-10 09:31:12 PM  
Ourumov has escaped with Natalya.

/hitting reset
 
2014-05-10 10:09:20 PM  
3.2

There. Settled.

/next!
 
2014-05-10 11:12:14 PM  

spawn73: Daedalus27: Reminds me of this day in San Diego:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnUoUKEIGoo  Police had to wait for him to high point it on the center divider when he tried to take down a pedestrian bridge.

Oh right, thats where the police murdered the dude.


It wasn't murder, it was a justified shooting as the guy didn't surrender and was still trying to maneuver the tank off the center divider to do more damage and attempt to kill people which he certainly would have if he managed to make it to the wrong side of the freeway. He was rocking the tank as the officers were on it trying to gain access threatening their safety.  Every time an police officer uses deadly force doesn't make it murder.
 
2014-05-10 11:37:44 PM  

Swampmaster: Mariupol is in the Ukraine; and yes, 2nd tank has Ukraine Blue and Yellow flag flying from its aerial. And given the state of both the Ukraine regular Army, the called up reserves and the official Militia; having men snokered while serving in the front lines is normal... some times you fight the war with what shows up... and that includes alcoholic soldiers ( and those who think being called up is one big party, live ammo, vodak, and driving tanks thru road signs!) And remember, usually the most junior guy has to be the driver! So watch out when there is any military convoy on a street near your house!

PS:  Been in tanks which have hit houses, bridge abutments, slid off roads, and also seen tanks hit cars quite a few times... 25 yrs US Army (both Tank and Inf. Mech units!).


So this happened in Russia (according to subby)?
 
2014-05-10 11:48:56 PM  

Daedalus27: spawn73: Daedalus27: Reminds me of this day in San Diego:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnUoUKEIGoo  Police had to wait for him to high point it on the center divider when he tried to take down a pedestrian bridge.

Oh right, thats where the police murdered the dude.

It wasn't murder, it was a justified shooting as the guy didn't surrender and was still trying to maneuver the tank off the center divider to do more damage and attempt to kill people which he certainly would have if he managed to make it to the wrong side of the freeway. He was rocking the tank as the officers were on it trying to gain access threatening their safety.  Every time an police officer uses deadly force doesn't make it murder.


True, but that was murder.

They weren't in immidiate personal danger, but, *bang* *bang* *bang*.
 
2014-05-11 12:09:02 AM  

spawn73: Daedalus27: spawn73: Daedalus27: Reminds me of this day in San Diego:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnUoUKEIGoo  Police had to wait for him to high point it on the center divider when he tried to take down a pedestrian bridge.

Oh right, thats where the police murdered the dude.

It wasn't murder, it was a justified shooting as the guy didn't surrender and was still trying to maneuver the tank off the center divider to do more damage and attempt to kill people which he certainly would have if he managed to make it to the wrong side of the freeway. He was rocking the tank as the officers were on it trying to gain access threatening their safety.  Every time an police officer uses deadly force doesn't make it murder.

True, but that was murder.

They weren't in immidiate personal danger, but, *bang* *bang* *bang*.


Sure they were in immediate personal danger (not that that is the standard for use of deadly force but I will play with your standards).  On a rocking shifting tank balanced on the center divider with the tread rapidly moving as he attempted to rock the tank off to go murder dozens of commuters coming the other way on the freeway.  He was an imminent deadly threat to those officers and the public in general who the officers had to stop while they had the chance. He could have turned off the tank and surrendered, instead he tried to escape to cause more carnage and was stopped by law enforcement.
 
2014-05-11 12:09:34 AM  

spawn73: It wasn't murder, it was a justified shooting as the guy didn't surrender and was still trying to maneuver the tank off the center divider to do more damage and attempt to kill people which he certainly would have if he managed to make it to the wrong side of the freeway. He was rocking the tank as the officers were on it trying to gain access threatening their safety.  Every time an police officer uses deadly force doesn't make it murder.


True, but that was murder.

They weren't in immidiate personal danger, but, *bang* *bang* *bang*.


The tank was immobile with hatch open and the driver within view of the officer.  That was murder.
 
2014-05-11 12:19:02 AM  

lamric: spawn73: It wasn't murder, it was a justified shooting as the guy didn't surrender and was still trying to maneuver the tank off the center divider to do more damage and attempt to kill people which he certainly would have if he managed to make it to the wrong side of the freeway. He was rocking the tank as the officers were on it trying to gain access threatening their safety.  Every time an police officer uses deadly force doesn't make it murder.


True, but that was murder.

They weren't in immidiate personal danger, but, *bang* *bang* *bang*.

The tank was immobile with hatch open and the driver within view of the officer.  That was murder.


It was not immobilized, it was hung up on the center divider but he was attempting to rock it off and the concrete was grinding down when they got the hatch open and opened fire.  I mean jeez, what do you want them to do, stand back while he gets the tank free to continue driving over anything in his path.  The driver of the tank had ever opportunity to surrender and he didn't, he made the choice and law enforcement had to end the situation before it got worse. This tank wasn't in an open field, it was in the middle of a busy freeway slowly working it's way off a k-rail, they didn't have the luxury of waiting.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shawn_Nelson

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2014-05-11 01:19:33 AM  

Daedalus27: spawn73: Daedalus27: spawn73: Daedalus27: Reminds me of this day in San Diego:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnUoUKEIGoo  Police had to wait for him to high point it on the center divider when he tried to take down a pedestrian bridge.

Oh right, thats where the police murdered the dude.

It wasn't murder, it was a justified shooting as the guy didn't surrender and was still trying to maneuver the tank off the center divider to do more damage and attempt to kill people which he certainly would have if he managed to make it to the wrong side of the freeway. He was rocking the tank as the officers were on it trying to gain access threatening their safety.  Every time an police officer uses deadly force doesn't make it murder.

True, but that was murder.

They weren't in immidiate personal danger, but, *bang* *bang* *bang*.

Sure they were in immediate personal danger (not that that is the standard for use of deadly force but I will play with your standards).  On a rocking shifting tank balanced on the center divider with the tread rapidly moving as he attempted to rock the tank off to go murder dozens of commuters coming the other way on the freeway.  He was an imminent deadly threat to those officers and the public in general who the officers had to stop while they had the chance. He could have turned off the tank and surrendered, instead he tried to escape to cause more carnage and was stopped by law enforcement.


The policeman was standing on top of the tank, with the hatch open, and could see the inside.

But, as I said. *bang* *bang* *bang*
 
2014-05-11 01:48:03 AM  

spawn73: Daedalus27: spawn73: Daedalus27: spawn73: Daedalus27: Reminds me of this day in San Diego:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnUoUKEIGoo  Police had to wait for him to high point it on the center divider when he tried to take down a pedestrian bridge.

Oh right, thats where the police murdered the dude.

It wasn't murder, it was a justified shooting as the guy didn't surrender and was still trying to maneuver the tank off the center divider to do more damage and attempt to kill people which he certainly would have if he managed to make it to the wrong side of the freeway. He was rocking the tank as the officers were on it trying to gain access threatening their safety.  Every time an police officer uses deadly force doesn't make it murder.

True, but that was murder.

They weren't in immidiate personal danger, but, *bang* *bang* *bang*.

Sure they were in immediate personal danger (not that that is the standard for use of deadly force but I will play with your standards).  On a rocking shifting tank balanced on the center divider with the tread rapidly moving as he attempted to rock the tank off to go murder dozens of commuters coming the other way on the freeway.  He was an imminent deadly threat to those officers and the public in general who the officers had to stop while they had the chance. He could have turned off the tank and surrendered, instead he tried to escape to cause more carnage and was stopped by law enforcement.

The policeman was standing on top of the tank, with the hatch open, and could see the inside.

But, as I said. *bang* *bang* *bang*


Yes, they can see inside as the tank continues to rock and move about.  What now oh fearless expert on law enforcement ending the threat of a rampaging tank? Put yourself on the rocking tank and what are you expecting the police to do now as they see it continuing to lurch trying to free itself as the driver ignores you and oncoming traffic continues to flow by? Are they supposed to ask him nicely and wait him out as the tank continues to try and free itself? Are they supposed to reach and allow themselves to be cut by a potential knife or shot in the cramped drivers compartment all while the tank continues to rock and potentially unfree itself on top of the k-rail and lurch into oncoming freeway traffic?  If you read that wiki link on the topic I sent you they didn't want to use tear gas for fear of having him stuck on the throttle without having access leaving it moving forward in an uncontrolled manner.  Just because the tank was stuck at the moment, doesn't mean it would continue to be as the concrete failed so this potentially was their only chance to end the threat.

This isn't a simulator where you can try different things and hope it works out.  You have to end the lethal threat immediately so that innocent people are not harmed by this suspect. The police have to protect the innocent members of society and themselves over tank driving rampage man. Of course you would be exactly the same type criticizing the same officers if they didn't use force and the tank freed itself and went on to run over a bus full of kindergarteners. Sometimes the criminal has to die to end the threat and this situation above many others required that.
 
2014-05-11 02:05:40 AM  

Daedalus27: spawn73: Daedalus27: spawn73: Daedalus27: spawn73: Daedalus27: Reminds me of this day in San Diego:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnUoUKEIGoo  Police had to wait for him to high point it on the center divider when he tried to take down a pedestrian bridge.

Oh right, thats where the police murdered the dude.

It wasn't murder, it was a justified shooting as the guy didn't surrender and was still trying to maneuver the tank off the center divider to do more damage and attempt to kill people which he certainly would have if he managed to make it to the wrong side of the freeway. He was rocking the tank as the officers were on it trying to gain access threatening their safety.  Every time an police officer uses deadly force doesn't make it murder.

True, but that was murder.

They weren't in immidiate personal danger, but, *bang* *bang* *bang*.

Sure they were in immediate personal danger (not that that is the standard for use of deadly force but I will play with your standards).  On a rocking shifting tank balanced on the center divider with the tread rapidly moving as he attempted to rock the tank off to go murder dozens of commuters coming the other way on the freeway.  He was an imminent deadly threat to those officers and the public in general who the officers had to stop while they had the chance. He could have turned off the tank and surrendered, instead he tried to escape to cause more carnage and was stopped by law enforcement.

The policeman was standing on top of the tank, with the hatch open, and could see the inside.

But, as I said. *bang* *bang* *bang*

Yes, they can see inside as the tank continues to rock and move about.  What now oh fearless expert on law enforcement ending the threat of a rampaging tank? Put yourself on the rocking tank and what are you expecting the police to do now as they see it continuing to lurch trying to free itself as the driver ignores you and oncoming traffic continues to flow by? Are they supposed to ask him nicely and ...


Oh you of the wall of text.

I'd farking crawl in the tank. He's in full view, the tank is stuck, he doesn't have any weapons. There's no danger.
 
2014-05-11 02:15:36 AM  
I hearby award  spawn73the Fark Medal of Valor for distinguishing himself in the imaginary line of duty in a twenty-year old incident.

Bravo sir! If only there had been more like you, back then, in a situation you were no where near.
 
2014-05-11 03:41:10 AM  

scalpod: I hearby award  spawn73the Fark Medal of Valor for distinguishing himself in the imaginary line of duty in a twenty-year old incident.

Bravo sir! If only there had been more like you, back then, in a situation you were no where near.


And second, we have Scalpod that feels shooting a man that poses no immidiate threat to anyone is an appropiate response.
 
2014-05-11 03:42:38 AM  

spawn73: Daedalus27: spawn73: Daedalus27: spawn73: Daedalus27: spawn73: Daedalus27: Reminds me of this day in San Diego:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnUoUKEIGoo  Police had to wait for him to high point it on the center divider when he tried to take down a pedestrian bridge.

Oh right, thats where the police murdered the dude.

It wasn't murder, it was a justified shooting as the guy didn't surrender and was still trying to maneuver the tank off the center divider to do more damage and attempt to kill people which he certainly would have if he managed to make it to the wrong side of the freeway. He was rocking the tank as the officers were on it trying to gain access threatening their safety.  Every time an police officer uses deadly force doesn't make it murder.

True, but that was murder.

They weren't in immidiate personal danger, but, *bang* *bang* *bang*.

Sure they were in immediate personal danger (not that that is the standard for use of deadly force but I will play with your standards).  On a rocking shifting tank balanced on the center divider with the tread rapidly moving as he attempted to rock the tank off to go murder dozens of commuters coming the other way on the freeway.  He was an imminent deadly threat to those officers and the public in general who the officers had to stop while they had the chance. He could have turned off the tank and surrendered, instead he tried to escape to cause more carnage and was stopped by law enforcement.

The policeman was standing on top of the tank, with the hatch open, and could see the inside.

But, as I said. *bang* *bang* *bang*

Yes, they can see inside as the tank continues to rock and move about.  What now oh fearless expert on law enforcement ending the threat of a rampaging tank? Put yourself on the rocking tank and what are you expecting the police to do now as they see it continuing to lurch trying to free itself as the driver ignores you and oncoming traffic continues to flow by? Are they supposed to ask him ...


How do you know he doesn't have a knife down by his boot?  Or something in his pocket in your quick evaluation as the tank is moving about? You are going to stick your head down in the narrow compartment where you are exposed to drag him out based upon a hunch that he isn't armed? What if he reaches up and just bangs your head on the small metal hatch stunning you or knocking you out so he can deal with you easily? Maybe your partners pull you out in time, maybe not, but you are taking a hell of a risk and giving the tank driver more time to free his vehicle.  Remember, you are not only gambling with your life here, but the lives of the drivers on the freeway he is trying to move to.

Someone has been playing way too many videos games where the penalty for stupidity is you just respawn in a few seconds later or have to wait for the next round to start. There is no Konami code for real life and the penalty for making a mistake may be your family and colleagues grieving over a casket.  Or worse, you having to explain why you didn't shoot to families grieving because you were unwilling to pull the trigger and the tank broke free continuing the wrong way down the freeway, colliding with vehicles, and killing the occupants. Remember, it isn't just your life you can throw away, since that may be acceptable to you, but the lives of others you are putting at risk because you are not ending the threat.
 
2014-05-11 06:26:32 AM  
That street light was annoying.   Thank you tank driving man.
 
2014-05-11 07:29:58 AM  

spawn73: I'd farking crawl in the tank. He's in full view, the tank is stuck, he doesn't have any weapons. There's no danger.


Your definition of danger trolling is different than the rest of the world's.

PS - A 60 ton tank is a weapon, last time I checked.
 
2014-05-11 09:08:39 AM  
 
2014-05-11 02:29:53 PM  

fatbear: spawn73: I'd farking crawl in the tank. He's in full view, the tank is stuck, he doesn't have any weapons. There's no danger.

Your definition of danger trolling is different than the rest of the world's.

PS - A 60 ton tank is a weapon, last time I checked.


To the policeman actually on the tank?
 
2014-05-11 02:51:25 PM  
Why do people bother responding to spawn73 anymore? The guy is one of the most obvious trolls.
 
2014-05-11 03:59:37 PM  
I am a tank , clankety clank ., I GO WHEREVER THE HELLL I WANT !
 
2014-05-11 04:44:28 PM  
The San Diego tank guy had it coming.

Had he made it over the barrier, and the wrong way against the stopped freeway traffic, it would have been apocalyptic.
 
2014-05-11 05:28:10 PM  

spawn73: fatbear: spawn73: I'd farking crawl in the tank. He's in full view, the tank is stuck, he doesn't have any weapons. There's no danger.

Your definition of danger trolling is different than the rest of the world's.

PS - A 60 ton tank is a weapon, last time I checked.

To the policeman actually on the tank?


Here is a hint, it isn't just about the police on the tank, it is about the threat to the general public if the tank breaks free and moves into oncoming traffic.  Police have to protect not only themselves but the general public and the tank moving on the k-rail continued to pose a threat until the driver was neutralized. The driver chose not to surrender so the police were justified in using lethal force to end the threat.
 
2014-05-11 06:11:48 PM  

spawn73: fatbear: spawn73: I'd farking crawl in the tank. He's in full view, the tank is stuck, he doesn't have any weapons. There's no danger.

Your definition of danger trolling is different than the rest of the world's.

PS - A 60 ton tank is a weapon, last time I checked.

To the policeman actually on the tank?


Absolutely! Haven't you ever seen the video of the cop who was on the hood of the car and shot the driver? Exact same scenario.
 
2014-05-11 07:03:34 PM  

Daedalus27: spawn73: fatbear: spawn73: I'd farking crawl in the tank. He's in full view, the tank is stuck, he doesn't have any weapons. There's no danger.

Your definition of danger trolling is different than the rest of the world's.

PS - A 60 ton tank is a weapon, last time I checked.

To the policeman actually on the tank?

Here is a hint, it isn't just about the police on the tank, it is about the threat to the general public if the tank breaks free and moves into oncoming traffic.  Police have to protect not only themselves but the general public and the tank moving on the k-rail continued to pose a threat until the driver was neutralized. The driver chose not to surrender so the police were justified in using lethal force to end the threat.


Here's a hint. Try googling if I'm the only one that thinks it was unjustifiable.

Or look up this thread. [as in scroll back]


Your arguments are not convincing me at all.

How about, instead of asking me what I would have done. Ask yourself.
 
2014-05-11 07:36:44 PM  

spawn73: Try googling if I'm the only one that thinks it was unjustifiable.


I did. Which one is you?

blog.curry.com
 
2014-05-11 10:07:39 PM  

spawn73: scalpod: I hearby award  spawn73the Fark Medal of Valor for distinguishing himself in the imaginary line of duty in a twenty-year old incident.

Bravo sir! If only there had been more like you, back then, in a situation you were no where near.

And second, we have Scalpod that feels shooting a man that poses no immidiate threat to anyone is an appropiate response.


And third, we have spawn73 who thinks a man in a stolen tank driving down the freeway isn't a threat to anybody. Also, he thinks that someone saying that he wasn't there and wasn't responsible for the safety of any of the other people on that freeway and thus didn't have to make the call means that said person believes it's okay to shoot people who aren't committing crimes and putting other peoples' lives in danger.

In other words, he's a completely reasonable guy who thoughtfully analyzes every situation before jumping to illogical conclusions and making hasty decisions he might regret later.
 
2014-05-11 10:19:13 PM  

scalpod: spawn73: scalpod: I hearby award  spawn73the Fark Medal of Valor for distinguishing himself in the imaginary line of duty in a twenty-year old incident.

Bravo sir! If only there had been more like you, back then, in a situation you were no where near.

And second, we have Scalpod that feels shooting a man that poses no immidiate threat to anyone is an appropiate response.

And third, we have spawn73 who thinks a man in a stolen tank driving down the freeway isn't a threat to anybody. Also, he thinks that someone saying that he wasn't there and wasn't responsible for the safety of any of the other people on that freeway and thus didn't have to make the call means that said person believes it's okay to shoot people who aren't committing crimes and putting other peoples' lives in danger.

In other words, he's a completely reasonable guy who thoughtfully analyzes every situation before jumping to illogical conclusions and making hasty decisions he might regret later.


Nicely done Scalpod.

Do we have a 4th for you who thinks its OK to stand up on a tank, which is stuck, open the hatch, hey, the tank is stuck, and shoot the person you can see inside because.


OMG, its comming at right me!
 
2014-05-11 10:19:16 PM  

spawn73: Daedalus27: spawn73: fatbear: spawn73: I'd farking crawl in the tank. He's in full view, the tank is stuck, he doesn't have any weapons. There's no danger.

Your definition of danger trolling is different than the rest of the world's.

PS - A 60 ton tank is a weapon, last time I checked.

To the policeman actually on the tank?

Here is a hint, it isn't just about the police on the tank, it is about the threat to the general public if the tank breaks free and moves into oncoming traffic.  Police have to protect not only themselves but the general public and the tank moving on the k-rail continued to pose a threat until the driver was neutralized. The driver chose not to surrender so the police were justified in using lethal force to end the threat.

Here's a hint. Try googling if I'm the only one that thinks it was unjustifiable.

Or look up this thread. [as in scroll back]


Your arguments are not convincing me at all.

How about, instead of asking me what I would have done. Ask yourself.


Why bother when it's so fun and easy to make hasty generalizations and pin labels on people you don't know because of a back-and-forth in Fark comments? For example, I've decided you're a total whackadoo who thinks people should be free to drive tanks around their neighborhoods for kicks until they kill someone and then (and only then) should the police be able to do anything about it short of giving them a ticket and a stern warning.
 
2014-05-11 10:20:36 PM  
Because you know the tank isn't suddenly going to lurch, come free and being terrorizing people because, well, because, you're a tank expert, having undergone all that tank training at Police Academy.
 
2014-05-11 10:21:25 PM  
Second guessing with 20/20 hindsight is fun and so very rewarding.
 
2014-05-11 10:44:27 PM  

scalpod: spawn73: Daedalus27: spawn73: fatbear: spawn73: I'd farking crawl in the tank. He's in full view, the tank is stuck, he doesn't have any weapons. There's no danger.

Your definition of danger trolling is different than the rest of the world's.

PS - A 60 ton tank is a weapon, last time I checked.

To the policeman actually on the tank?

Here is a hint, it isn't just about the police on the tank, it is about the threat to the general public if the tank breaks free and moves into oncoming traffic.  Police have to protect not only themselves but the general public and the tank moving on the k-rail continued to pose a threat until the driver was neutralized. The driver chose not to surrender so the police were justified in using lethal force to end the threat.

Here's a hint. Try googling if I'm the only one that thinks it was unjustifiable.

Or look up this thread. [as in scroll back]


Your arguments are not convincing me at all.

How about, instead of asking me what I would have done. Ask yourself.

Why bother when it's so fun and easy to make hasty generalizations and pin labels on people you don't know because of a back-and-forth in Fark comments? For example, I've decided you're a total whackadoo who thinks people should be free to drive tanks around their neighborhoods for kicks until they kill someone and then (and only then) should the police be able to do anything about it short of giving them a ticket and a stern warning.


And I think you're a pussy.
 
2014-05-11 11:20:02 PM  

spawn73: scalpod: spawn73: Daedalus27: spawn73: fatbear: spawn73: I'd farking crawl in the tank. He's in full view, the tank is stuck, he doesn't have any weapons. There's no danger.

Your definition of danger trolling is different than the rest of the world's.

PS - A 60 ton tank is a weapon, last time I checked.

To the policeman actually on the tank?

Here is a hint, it isn't just about the police on the tank, it is about the threat to the general public if the tank breaks free and moves into oncoming traffic.  Police have to protect not only themselves but the general public and the tank moving on the k-rail continued to pose a threat until the driver was neutralized. The driver chose not to surrender so the police were justified in using lethal force to end the threat.

Here's a hint. Try googling if I'm the only one that thinks it was unjustifiable.

Or look up this thread. [as in scroll back]


Your arguments are not convincing me at all.

How about, instead of asking me what I would have done. Ask yourself.

Why bother when it's so fun and easy to make hasty generalizations and pin labels on people you don't know because of a back-and-forth in Fark comments? For example, I've decided you're a total whackadoo who thinks people should be free to drive tanks around their neighborhoods for kicks until they kill someone and then (and only then) should the police be able to do anything about it short of giving them a ticket and a stern warning.

And I think you're a pussy.


And I think you're a troll

/Epic and subtle, if true
 
2014-05-11 11:53:41 PM  

ein125: spawn73: scalpod: spawn73: Daedalus27: spawn73: fatbear: spawn73: I'd farking crawl in the tank. He's in full view, the tank is stuck, he doesn't have any weapons. There's no danger.

Your definition of danger trolling is different than the rest of the world's.

PS - A 60 ton tank is a weapon, last time I checked.

To the policeman actually on the tank?

Here is a hint, it isn't just about the police on the tank, it is about the threat to the general public if the tank breaks free and moves into oncoming traffic.  Police have to protect not only themselves but the general public and the tank moving on the k-rail continued to pose a threat until the driver was neutralized. The driver chose not to surrender so the police were justified in using lethal force to end the threat.

Here's a hint. Try googling if I'm the only one that thinks it was unjustifiable.

Or look up this thread. [as in scroll back]


Your arguments are not convincing me at all.

How about, instead of asking me what I would have done. Ask yourself.

Why bother when it's so fun and easy to make hasty generalizations and pin labels on people you don't know because of a back-and-forth in Fark comments? For example, I've decided you're a total whackadoo who thinks people should be free to drive tanks around their neighborhoods for kicks until they kill someone and then (and only then) should the police be able to do anything about it short of giving them a ticket and a stern warning.

And I think you're a pussy.

And I think you're a troll

/Epic and subtle, if true


No you don't
 
2014-05-12 12:57:45 AM  

spawn73: Daedalus27: spawn73: fatbear: spawn73: I'd farking crawl in the tank. He's in full view, the tank is stuck, he doesn't have any weapons. There's no danger.

Your definition of danger trolling is different than the rest of the world's.

PS - A 60 ton tank is a weapon, last time I checked.

To the policeman actually on the tank?

Here is a hint, it isn't just about the police on the tank, it is about the threat to the general public if the tank breaks free and moves into oncoming traffic.  Police have to protect not only themselves but the general public and the tank moving on the k-rail continued to pose a threat until the driver was neutralized. The driver chose not to surrender so the police were justified in using lethal force to end the threat.

Here's a hint. Try googling if I'm the only one that thinks it was unjustifiable.

Or look up this thread. [as in scroll back]


Your arguments are not convincing me at all.

How about, instead of asking me what I would have done. Ask yourself.


I am not a police officer so I wouldn't be in that position and instead I would be thanking them for dealing with the dangerous situation.  Now if you are for some reason making me a deputy sheriff and putting me on that road, I would have shot the tank driver as soon as I had a clear shot if he didn't respond to the immediate command to turn off the tank and come out with his hands up as the officers in that situation did.  I would sleep soundly at night and could completely articulate my reasons for taking such an action at the review board and investigation and I would enjoy my administrative leave relaxing knowing that I did the right thing.  Any nutjobs (such as yourself spawn73) can show up and claim wrongdoing,but what did the investigation find, was any officer indicted or disciplined for their action?  No, then guess what, it was seen as justified action to end an imminent threat.
 
2014-05-12 01:59:17 AM  

spawn73: scalpod: spawn73: Daedalus27: spawn73: fatbear: spawn73: I'd farking crawl in the tank. He's in full view, the tank is stuck, he doesn't have any weapons. There's no danger.

Your definition of danger trolling is different than the rest of the world's.

PS - A 60 ton tank is a weapon, last time I checked.

To the policeman actually on the tank?

Here is a hint, it isn't just about the police on the tank, it is about the threat to the general public if the tank breaks free and moves into oncoming traffic.  Police have to protect not only themselves but the general public and the tank moving on the k-rail continued to pose a threat until the driver was neutralized. The driver chose not to surrender so the police were justified in using lethal force to end the threat.

Here's a hint. Try googling if I'm the only one that thinks it was unjustifiable.

Or look up this thread. [as in scroll back]


Your arguments are not convincing me at all.

How about, instead of asking me what I would have done. Ask yourself.

Why bother when it's so fun and easy to make hasty generalizations and pin labels on people you don't know because of a back-and-forth in Fark comments? For example, I've decided you're a total whackadoo who thinks people should be free to drive tanks around their neighborhoods for kicks until they kill someone and then (and only then) should the police be able to do anything about it short of giving them a ticket and a stern warning.

And I think you're a pussy.


So what? I think you suffer from an intellectual disability, which I suppose makes me a real meanie for picking on you, but do I care? Boo me!
 
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