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(Click On Detroit)   Apparently the FCC has no hangup about fining a political robocaller $3 million   (clickondetroit.com) divider line 52
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2014-05-10 09:51:01 AM  
More persecution of the GOP by the 0bummer administration. We stopped the IRS, I bet next they are going to use the FCC to shut down FOX News.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-05-10 11:29:48 AM  
Press release here: http://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-fine-online-co-29m-political-robocall s -cell-phones-0. The $2.9 million fine is for 184 phone calls. The link to the detailed explanation is broken. Not seeing evidence to the contrary, I assume that those phone calls were not meant to reach a cell phone and the FCC is fining the company for an accident. Putting out a press release before notifying the company being fined makes this look like a political stunt.

If he had good legal advice he arranged his operations so his LLC has no assets to pay the fine and he can dissolve and reform under a new name. That won't work forever, but it can work once.
 
2014-05-10 12:40:45 PM  
Great, con or lib we can all agree robocalls are irritating. Now can we find that company in Florida that blasts a cruiseship horn calling my cell every Friday night with a "contest award"?
 
2014-05-10 12:41:42 PM  
Good.

Robocalls should be illegal. They are akin to spam.
 
2014-05-10 12:43:30 PM  
thecarnivoreproject.typepad.com
 
2014-05-10 12:45:34 PM  
Now go get those asshole who keep calling with "free" cruises.
 
2014-05-10 12:49:18 PM  
I'm sure potential fines are already priced in and its still worth it.
 
2014-05-10 12:53:40 PM  

ZAZ: Not seeing evidence to the contrary, I assume that those phone calls were not meant to reach a cell phone and the FCC is fining the company for an accident


FTA:

"The Commission had previously cited Dialing Services for making more than 4.7 million robocalls to mobile phones without consumer permission during the 2012 election cycle."

This isn't an isolated incident.
 
2014-05-10 12:55:50 PM  

ZAZ: Press release here: http://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-fine-online-co-29m-political-robocall s -cell-phones-0. The $2.9 million fine is for 184 phone calls. The link to the detailed explanation is broken. Not seeing evidence to the contrary, I assume that those phone calls were not meant to reach a cell phone and the FCC is fining the company for an accident. Putting out a press release before notifying the company being fined makes this look like a political stunt.

If he had good legal advice he arranged his operations so his LLC has no assets to pay the fine and he can dissolve and reform under a new name. That won't work forever, but it can work once.

"a New Mexico-based firm that the FCC says continued to place robocalls over the past year despite having been warned against doing so in March of 2013"
 
2014-05-10 12:56:47 PM  
www.prwatch.org
 
2014-05-10 01:21:38 PM  
Let me know when the FCC can manage to make CallerID legit, and get that Rachel biatch from Card Services, as well as the guy who wants to give me a free home security system to stop calling me.
 
2014-05-10 01:21:51 PM  

ZAZ: Press release here: http://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-fine-online-co-29m-political-robocall s -cell-phones-0. The $2.9 million fine is for 184 phone calls. The link to the detailed explanation is broken. Not seeing evidence to the contrary, I assume that those phone calls were not meant to reach a cell phone and the FCC is fining the company for an accident. Putting out a press release before notifying the company being fined makes this look like a political stunt.

If he had good legal advice he arranged his operations so his LLC has no assets to pay the fine and he can dissolve and reform under a new name. That won't work forever, but it can work once.


Yeah, I'm sure he was bulk dialing cell phones by accident.

And not just by incompetent or apathy.
 
2014-05-10 01:22:19 PM  
CSB:  I one for a robocall attacking my friend's dad, who was the chair of the local DNC at the time.
 
2014-05-10 01:33:26 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-05-10 01:35:04 PM  
ZAZ: Press release here: http://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-fine-online-co-29m-political-robocall s -cell-phones-0. The $2.9 million fine is for 184 phone calls. The link to the detailed explanation is broken. Not seeing evidence to the contrary, I assume that those phone calls were not meant to reach a cell phone and the FCC is fining the company for an accident. Putting out a press release before notifying the company being fined makes this look like a political stunt.
If he had good legal advice he arranged his operations so his LLC has no assets to pay the fine and he can dissolve and reform under a new name. That won't work forever, but it can work once.


Cherry picking talking points while ignoring salient points makes this comment look like partisan hackery. Just sayin',
 
2014-05-10 01:35:46 PM  
We need a "Castle Doctrine" on computer-generated phone calls, with no exceptions, and violators taken out and shot by volunteer citizens' militia members. I'd sign up.
 
2014-05-10 02:17:25 PM  
I think one of my first campaign promises if I were ever running for office would be that my campaign will never robocall you.
You could even make an attack ad out of it

Deep narrator voice: Congressman Smith's campaign will robocall you when you are sitting down to dinner, interrupting what little family time you have, yet he claims to be pro-family.

Congressman Smith will robocall you when the baby is trying to sleep. Why does he hate the idea of babies napping?...
 
2014-05-10 02:37:52 PM  
Honestly with robocallers, once I get connected with a live person I hem and haw fumbling for credit card numbers that I can never seem to read correctly, and if it sounds like they're in a call center i ask them what time they're getting off work, and I tell them that I'll be waiting for them, but not to worry because I'm just going to follow them home and wait until they go to bed before I kill them and their family. You'd assume that eventually I'd be contacted by the police, but alas I haven't been.

If the coppers ever do show up, then that seems like an easy bust for the FCC. I know.. i know, on some level I feel sorry for them, but they all know what they're doing, and if anything, maybe my threat makes them think about another vocation. My defense will be that they've called me at least every other day for the past 5 years and that I finally snapped.
 
2014-05-10 02:44:04 PM  
This falls outside the concerns of those who own the regulatory capture. Mr Lobbyist doesn't mind doing his job sometimes.
 
2014-05-10 02:46:28 PM  

ZAZ: I assume that those phone calls were not meant to reach a cell phone and the FCC is fining the company for an accident.


While I understand that the FCC is supposed to enforce the laws and not my personal whims, I don't see much difference here. Either way, everyone involved should be sent to an extremely inhospitable deserted island and made to fight to the death for our amusement. The winner should be left on the island until such time as they realize that society was also a contestant and society won.
 
2014-05-10 03:15:32 PM  

JAYoung: We need a "Castle Doctrine" on computer-generated phone calls, with no exceptions, and violators taken out and shot by volunteer citizens' militia members. I'd sign up.


I wouldn't mind not receiving any more "This is your captain speaking" calls from "Blocked".  Also, it would be nice to stop getting calls from online pharmacies I've never heard of.
 
2014-05-10 03:32:37 PM  
Swell. So when are they going to fine the assholes robocalling me several times a day to talk to me about "energy plans"?
 
2014-05-10 03:54:55 PM  

FnkyTwn: Let me know when the FCC can manage to make CallerID legit, and get that Rachel biatch from Card Services, as well as the guy who wants to give me a free home security system to stop calling me.


The FTC got the Rachel company.
Try to keep up.

It takes many years because the perps need time to secure their villas in Costa Rica.
 
2014-05-10 04:42:32 PM  

jjorsett: Swell. So when are they going to fine the assholes robocalling me several times a day to talk to me about "energy plans"?


Is it your power company or someone associated with them? If yes, then absolutely never. Ever ever. They're not breaking a law.
 
2014-05-10 04:47:28 PM  
Robocalling should be legal, but it should also be legal to kidnap robocallers or other spammers, bring them to a deserted island, and hunt them for sport.
 
2014-05-10 04:59:23 PM  
So when is the Right-wing outrage going to begin, that the FCC is politically motivated to single out conservative groups like the IRS did?
 
2014-05-10 05:26:49 PM  

FnkyTwn: Let me know when the FCC can manage to make CallerID legit, and get that Rachel biatch from Card Services, as well as the guy who wants to give me a free home security system to stop calling me.


you too? i haven't answered my phone in ages. the answering machine does. what i love is the convoluted things companies do to claim they have a "relationship" and don't have to adhere to the do not call list.
 
2014-05-10 05:38:46 PM  

netringer: FnkyTwn: Let me know when the FCC can manage to make CallerID legit, and get that Rachel biatch from Card Services, as well as the guy who wants to give me a free home security system to stop calling me.

The FTC got the Rachel company.
Try to keep up.

It takes many years because the perps need time to secure their villas in Costa Rica.


Christ, what I wouldn't give to get my hands on the Rachel from Card Services people.
 
2014-05-10 06:09:26 PM  

ZAZ: I assume


So f*cking perfect...
 
2014-05-10 07:13:18 PM  

FnkyTwn: Honestly with robocallers, once I get connected with a live person I hem and haw fumbling for credit card numbers that I can never seem to read correctly, and if it sounds like they're in a call center i ask them what time they're getting off work, and I tell them that I'll be waiting for them, but not to worry because I'm just going to follow them home and wait until they go to bed before I kill them and their family. You'd assume that eventually I'd be contacted by the police, but alas I haven't been.

If the coppers ever do show up, then that seems like an easy bust for the FCC. I know.. i know, on some level I feel sorry for them, but they all know what they're doing, and if anything, maybe my threat makes them think about another vocation. My defense will be that they've called me at least every other day for the past 5 years and that I finally snapped.


so even telemarketers don't take you seriously :\
 
2014-05-10 07:34:20 PM  
Congressman Bill Cassidy is running for the U.S. Senate in Louisiana. I know this because that scum-sucking son of a biatch has his farking robot call me EVERY SINGLE FARKING DAY. I'm on every DNC list there is, and the damned politicians could not care less.
 
2014-05-10 07:37:45 PM  

FnkyTwn: Let me know when the FCC can manage to make CallerID legit, and get that Rachel biatch from Card Services, as well as the guy who wants to give me a free home security system to stop calling me.


I have the same problem, plus several others. The problem appears to be that the robo-callers are based outside the U.S., in the Philippines or somewhere. Even if the FCC could locate them, they would have to get the CIA to use their drones on the call center.

Not a bad idea, actually. And we should threaten to withhold all foreign aid from any nation who hosts these SOBs.
 
2014-05-10 07:51:01 PM  

mksmith: Congressman Bill Cassidy is running for the U.S. Senate in Louisiana. I know this because that scum-sucking son of a biatch has his farking robot call me EVERY SINGLE FARKING DAY. I'm on every DNC list there is, and the damned politicians could not care less.


Set fire to one of his reelection offices for every phone call you get from his campaign.
 
2014-05-10 08:16:38 PM  
Make CallerID mandatory for cell phones and explicitly prohibit the "unavailable" crap. You want to call me, I want to be able to call you back.
 
2014-05-10 08:22:19 PM  

mksmith: any nation who hosts these SOBs.


img.fark.net
 
2014-05-10 08:45:02 PM  

thurstonxhowell: jjorsett: Swell. So when are they going to fine the assholes robocalling me several times a day to talk to me about "energy plans"?

Is it your power company or someone associated with them? If yes, then absolutely never. Ever ever. They're not breaking a law.


Those calls are illegal if you're on the Do Not Call list. Those guys are not the your power company or someone associated with them.  They're scum, cons, and thieves trying to rope you into overpaying alternate power providers.  You have no business relationship with them.
 
2014-05-10 08:46:20 PM  
So, you clowns voted for people who lied about Iraq, and make robocalls to you.

You're just trolling now, aren't you?
 
2014-05-10 09:18:03 PM  
Let me know when they get to nailing "Cardholder Services."
 
2014-05-10 10:29:54 PM  

ZAZ: The link to the detailed explanation is broken. Not seeing evidence to the contrary, I assume that those phone calls were not meant to reach a cell phone and the FCC is fining the company for an accident. Putting out a press release before notifying the company being fined makes this look like a political stunt.


Here, I fixed it for you.

Look at paragraphs 7, 8, and 9.  The document (and the press release) makes it clear:  this was not an accident. Honestly, though, this was not hard to fix...
PROTIP:  When the link looks like this:

http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-14-
59A1.pdf

put it all on one line.
 
2014-05-11 12:56:46 AM  

netringer: FnkyTwn: Let me know when the FCC can manage to make CallerID legit, and get that Rachel biatch from Card Services, as well as the guy who wants to give me a free home security system to stop calling me.

The FTC got the Rachel company.
Try to keep up.

It takes many years because the perps need time to secure their villas in Costa Rica.


No, "Rachel from Card Services" is back. The FCC shut them down and like a weed they returned less than a year later. Problem is that most of these scammers are operating at off-shore call centers, well out of the reach of the FCC.
 
2014-05-11 01:31:30 AM  

EvilEgg: More persecution of the GOP by the 0bummer administration. We stopped the IRS, I bet next they are going to use the FCC to shut down FOX News.


Oh, you're just saying that to get our hopes up.
 
2014-05-11 01:40:07 AM  

mksmith: FnkyTwn: Let me know when the FCC can manage to make CallerID legit, and get that Rachel biatch from Card Services, as well as the guy who wants to give me a free home security system to stop calling me.

I have the same problem, plus several others. The problem appears to be that the robo-callers are based outside the U.S., in the Philippines or somewhere. Even if the FCC could locate them, they would have to get the CIA to use their drones on the call center.

Not a bad idea, actually. And we should threaten to withhold all foreign aid from any nation who hosts these SOBs.


DING DING DING DING DING!

We have a WINNER!!!
 
2014-05-11 07:43:48 AM  
For the government primary elections we have been getting hundreds of 10x6" photo stock printed ads in the mail. And they are also hand delivered from out of state folks. Got visited by someone from virginia in the Ozarks, asking me to vote for person X.
 
2014-05-11 07:49:43 AM  
At Peak Solar Panels, I was fielding ten or more phone calls per week; that cured me of being polite to anyone who calls who's not a friend or relative. I also severed my relationship with DirecTV when they went all Glenn Close on me.
 
2014-05-11 02:56:41 PM  

mofa: At Peak Solar Panels, I was fielding ten or more phone calls per week; that cured me of being polite to anyone who calls who's not a friend or relative. I also severed my relationship with DirecTV when they went all Glenn Close on me.


Better Glenn Close than Glenn Beck.
 
2014-05-11 04:12:18 PM  
Robocalls make me very irrational.

On top of my NORMAL every day type irrationality.
 
2014-05-11 04:48:25 PM  

FnkyTwn: Honestly with robocallers, once I get connected with a live person I hem and haw fumbling for credit card numbers that I can never seem to read correctly, and if it sounds like they're in a call center i ask them what time they're getting off work, and I tell them that I'll be waiting for them, but not to worry because I'm just going to follow them home and wait until they go to bed before I kill them and their family. You'd assume that eventually I'd be contacted by the police, but alas I haven't been.

If the coppers ever do show up, then that seems like an easy bust for the FCC. I know.. i know, on some level I feel sorry for them, but they all know what they're doing, and if anything, maybe my threat makes them think about another vocation. My defense will be that they've called me at least every other day for the past 5 years and that I finally snapped.


This is like blaming the concession stand clerk for the high price of Sour Patch Kids.

They've got a job to do, it takes 3 seconds to hang up on them.
 
2014-05-11 05:23:07 PM  

Kittypie070: Robocalls make me very irrational.

On top of my NORMAL every day type irrationality.


"Hello, this is Sarah Palin. How you all likin' that hopey changey thing? "
 
2014-05-11 05:46:24 PM  
Hope they haven't called Oregon because they'll get dinged twice. Not only are robocalls to cell phones illegal, but in Oregon robocalls to landlines are illegal as well. This applies to both political & business-related robocalls.
 
2014-05-11 06:41:01 PM  

whidbey: Kittypie070: Robocalls make me very irrational.

On top of my NORMAL every day type irrationality.


"Hello, this is Sarah Palin. How you all likin' that hopey changey thing? "


The entire state of Alaska just fking disappeared, the guys on the ISS felt a funky little hiccup in the whole structure, a huge tsunami is gonna trash a buttload of Pacific coastal lands about six to ten hours from now, and I have a migraine that's making my ears bleed.
 
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