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(Breitbart.com)   Obamacare has made medical care so affordable that Californians are traveling to Tijuana for things other than the Donkey Shows because it's cheaper   (breitbart.com) divider line 160
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2014-05-10 01:02:59 AM  

Mugato: I signed up for Obamacare because I'm in a period where I don't have corporate healthcare. So the list of healthcare providers on my plan aren't accepting new patients for the next three months, so I have to pay for healthcare that I can't use or else pay some fine or tax or whatever. I'll have healthcare from my company in a month anyway but I can see how some people might be pissed off at how this is all handled.


So did I. Until april 1 I was 'covered' by a high deductable (3.5k) HSA plan under WI HIRSP plan because I was denied private insuance due to flat feet. My wife was also under the same plan due to her various health issues. My 3 kids are guarenteed medicaid until they 18 because they are former foster children. Under our new plan, thanks to the health exchanges, the wife and I are on a PPO which costs so much less than the old plan, without a subdidy, because I make enough to support my family enough, so my wife can stay home and homeschool to bring our kids up to the academic level of their peers, that we also can afford vision ( all 5 of us wear glasses) and dental, for all 5 of us,for cheaper than what we paid before, and the PPO covers more.

I saw my PCD last monday for a physical. He even congradulated me on the new plan. Then again, my PCD is awesome. Doesn't talk down to me. Explains in detail. Shows me everything he inputs and reports on his laptop.

/please escuse typos and such. Im on the nook.
 
2014-05-10 01:03:24 AM  

UNC_Samurai: buzzcut73: Wait until they find out that there are a lot of Americans going to Mexico for dental care, and there are even some US based plans covering care in Mexico because the costs are so much more reasonable.

What health care reform in this country has yet to properly address, is the completely farking retarded concept that dental insurance should be separate from all other medical care.


HEY, they finally included MENTAL heathcare with physical healthcare!

Teeth and Eyes are next I guess.
LOL

What about feet?
Are podiatrists covered?
 
2014-05-10 01:05:33 AM  

Petey4335: Mugato: I signed up for Obamacare because I'm in a period where I don't have corporate healthcare. So the list of healthcare providers on my plan aren't accepting new patients for the next three months, so I have to pay for healthcare that I can't use or else pay some fine or tax or whatever. I'll have healthcare from my company in a month anyway but I can see how some people might be pissed off at how this is all handled.

So did I. Until april 1 I was 'covered' by a high deductable (3.5k) HSA plan under WI HIRSP plan because I was denied private insuance due to flat feet. My wife was also under the same plan due to her various health issues. My 3 kids are guarenteed medicaid until they 18 because they are former foster children. Under our new plan, thanks to the health exchanges, the wife and I are on a PPO which costs so much less than the old plan, without a subdidy, because I make enough to support my family enough, so my wife can stay home and homeschool to bring our kids up to the academic level of their peers, that we also can afford vision ( all 5 of us wear glasses) and dental, for all 5 of us,for cheaper than what we paid before, and the PPO covers more.

I saw my PCD last monday for a physical. He even congradulated me on the new plan. Then again, my PCD is awesome. Doesn't talk down to me. Explains in detail. Shows me everything he inputs and reports on his laptop.

/please escuse typos and such. Im on the nook.


Have you noticed that for EVER GOP scare story there are 1000s of AWESOME stories like this?
THANKS OBAMACARE!!!
Strange, why did the GOP think that calling it OBAMACARE would be an insult?
Now it will become its official name!
 
2014-05-10 01:05:50 AM  

Mugato: I signed up for Obamacare because I'm in a period where I don't have corporate healthcare. So the list of healthcare providers on my plan aren't accepting new patients for the next three months, so I have to pay for healthcare that I can't use or else pay some fine or tax or whatever. I'll have healthcare from my company in a month anyway but I can see how some people might be pissed off at how this is all handled.


1. You could have checked provider availability before buying insurance that locked you in to a list of preferred providers that aren't taking patients.

2. For routine office visits, just self-pay and go wherever.  Insurance is really there to protect you from having to pay for the $60,000 hospitalization, not the $60 office visit.
 
2014-05-10 01:07:38 AM  
Ummmmm, isn't EVERYTHING cheaper in Mexico.
 
2014-05-10 01:08:12 AM  

namatad: UNC_Samurai: buzzcut73: Wait until they find out that there are a lot of Americans going to Mexico for dental care, and there are even some US based plans covering care in Mexico because the costs are so much more reasonable.

What health care reform in this country has yet to properly address, is the completely farking retarded concept that dental insurance should be separate from all other medical care.

HEY, they finally included MENTAL heathcare with physical healthcare!

Teeth and Eyes are next I guess.
LOL

What about feet?
Are podiatrists covered?


It tends to be the ear/eye/nose/throat systems that aren't fully integrated.
 
2014-05-10 01:13:14 AM  

FlashHarry: i believe medical tourism has been going on for quite some time, concernmitter.


Certainly as long as I've been living in California, going to Tijuana for medical has been a "thing". Which means 30 years and that's just what I know, so that proves 0bamacare is a failure and Sarah Palindrome should have been president.

/In modern times, medical tourism to Thailand, India, Costa Rica, etc can save so much money on certain medical or dental procedures to more than balance out the cost of the vacation.
//Ditto for clothing tourism in Thailand like if you suddenly need like 5 suit jackets upon graduation.
///not valid for sex tourism. You'll spend your money but have nothing to show for it (but memories and maybe VD if you play unsafely).
 
2014-05-10 01:20:25 AM  
There goes Fartin' Breitbart again.
 
2014-05-10 01:27:37 AM  
This has been going on since the 1970's, I believe...

/not brietbart, that farker is dead.
 
2014-05-10 01:28:29 AM  

Mantour: FTA: "A 2009 study found that half a million Mexican immigrants living in California get their medical care in Mexico because their green cards allow them to travel back and forth across the border easily. "

Obamacare (The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act) was signed into law by Fartbongo on March 23, 2010.

Your blog sucks!



You forgot about Obama's time machine
 
2014-05-10 01:31:59 AM  
It's cheap but it's not free
 
2014-05-10 01:32:25 AM  
jjorsett:  Deficits don't matter except when Republicans are President.

"You know, Paul, Reagan proved that deficits don't matter. We won the mid-term elections, this is our due."
- Dick Cheney to Paul O'Neill, former Bush Treasury Secretary

Nope, they apparently don't matter then either.
 
2014-05-10 01:35:06 AM  

SilentStrider: Is there a reliable source for this? Or just Breitbart?


I'm just some guy on the internet, but it was going on 20 years ago.  Had a lady with a chronic infection problem she had gotten from getting cheap dental work done in Mexico.  She was in the hospital 3 times over my 2 year career with problems stemming from it.

Weird part is the infection ended up affecting her replaced knee, something about the opportunistic bug just finding whatever spots it could breed in and setting up shop.

Actually I *say* 20 years ago, I think it was only 10-15...
 
2014-05-10 01:38:41 AM  
I guess being able to speak to your doctor in Spanish might have some up side.
 
2014-05-10 01:39:27 AM  
And like Beitbart's corpse, all the bodies are chock full of donkey spluge.
 
2014-05-10 01:40:19 AM  

mrshowrules: Sgt Otter: SilentStrider: Is there a reliable source for this? Or just Breitbart?

It's sourced from a USA Today article.  It's still the absurdity of Bretibart.com being "concerned" that not enough Mexican immigrants are buying ACA plans.

You can imagine the desperation around whatever counts for a boardroom table at Breibart.

"What do we got on Obamacare folks?"

"we have a lady who says her doctor won't treat her anymore because of Obama, the details are sketchy, she might be related to Gohmert"

"What else?"

"A woman thinks the ACA website gave her cat feline aids."

"Do we have photos? No?  What else?"

"Mexicans still going to see their doctors in Mexico.

"Let's roll"


It isn't just Mexicans, but it's been going on since forever.  It also isn't just Mexico, medical tourism has a lot of places, some very odd indeed.  Cuba is actually a *really* good place to go if you have money, because they sank a shiat-ton of government money into making their medical care (well, the rich people's medical care) really good.

Best plastic surgeons are in Thailand and Iran, the two countries with the most gender-change surgeries.
That's all I can remember off the top of my head, and it all depends on what the customer wants, cheaper or better (or both).
 
2014-05-10 02:44:15 AM  
Back in 2006, I had a roommate who talked about how he would fly to Costa Rica for medical and dental care because even with the added costs of airfare, it was cheaper there and the care was just as good.
 
2014-05-10 02:53:40 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: Mugato: I signed up for Obamacare because I'm in a period where I don't have corporate healthcare. So the list of healthcare providers on my plan aren't accepting new patients for the next three months, so I have to pay for healthcare that I can't use or else pay some fine or tax or whatever. I'll have healthcare from my company in a month anyway but I can see how some people might be pissed off at how this is all handled.

That has nothing to do with Obamacare.


Or, he can use the Romney/Ryan plan.....

media.tumblr.com
 
2014-05-10 02:59:16 AM  

namatad: Mentat: Lionel Mandrake: Well then,  it's about time we seriously consider the Republican plan...

...and what was that,again?

I thought it was ObamaCare.

I have been collecting SOME of the many complaints about Obamacare.

The GOP Plan
The GOP has not officially released their health care plan, but we have been able to figure out some of the details by listening to their complaints about Obamacare.

1) Your rates can never go up.  You will pay the same or less than what you are currently paying.
2) You never have to change doctors, in fact, doctors will be required to take you as a patient.
3) You can never be dropped or denied for pre-existing conditions.
4) Birth control is covered for free.
5) All doctors will be in all networks
6) The government website with details about this plan will be available 24 x 7 x 365. It will work flawlessly on day one and never be slow, no matter how many people try to use it at one time.
7) Insurance companies will be banned from ever dropping a plan.
8) Only 8 million people signed up for Obamacare, the GOP plan would have many many more people covered.
9) Some number of people lost their coverage, that will be undone with GOPcare. They will get their old plans back, at the same premium.
10) All medicines will be covered, no matter what the cost.

No seriously.
We have been told, over and over, that these are the TERRIBLE things about Obamacare.
And the GOP keeps telling us that they will repeal Obamacare and replace it with something better.
Right?

/left me know here or in email any major GOP PLAN features that I might have left out.


And people say there's no support for single payer in the GOP
 
2014-05-10 03:57:43 AM  
Ha. People have been going to Mexico for cheap medical expenses before Obama care.
 
2014-05-10 04:01:53 AM  

Summoner101: And people say there's no support for single payer in the GOP


That would help poor people a lot and is therefor a non-starter for the GOP.
 
2014-05-10 04:05:05 AM  

2wolves: Lionel Mandrake: Well then,  it's about time we seriously consider the Republican plan...

...and what was that,again?

Dieing young.


RIP

img.fark.net
 
2014-05-10 04:12:40 AM  

namatad: Mentat: Lionel Mandrake: Well then,  it's about time we seriously consider the Republican plan...

...and what was that,again?

I thought it was ObamaCare.

I have been collecting SOME of the many complaints about Obamacare.

The GOP Plan
The GOP has not officially released their health care plan, but we have been able to figure out some of the details by listening to their complaints about Obamacare.

1) Your rates can never go up.  You will pay the same or less than what you are currently paying.
2) You never have to change doctors, in fact, doctors will be required to take you as a patient.
3) You can never be dropped or denied for pre-existing conditions.
4) Birth control is covered for free.
5) All doctors will be in all networks
6) The government website with details about this plan will be available 24 x 7 x 365. It will work flawlessly on day one and never be slow, no matter how many people try to use it at one time.
7) Insurance companies will be banned from ever dropping a plan.
8) Only 8 million people signed up for Obamacare, the GOP plan would have many many more people covered.
9) Some number of people lost their coverage, that will be undone with GOPcare. They will get their old plans back, at the same premium.
10) All medicines will be covered, no matter what the cost.

No seriously.
We have been told, over and over, that these are the TERRIBLE things about Obamacare.
And the GOP keeps telling us that they will repeal Obamacare and replace it with something better.
Right?

/left me know here or in email any major GOP PLAN features that I might have left out.


This is the best post I've seen all week.  Good on you, sir.
 
2014-05-10 04:50:11 AM  

Tellingthem: buzzcut73: Wait until they find out that there are a lot of Americans going to Mexico for dental care, and there are even some US based plans covering care in Mexico because the costs are so much more reasonable.

Yep I knew lots of people who went to Mexico for all sorts of treatments. It was usually much cheaper than in America even if you had insurance most of the time. I had my friend bring me back some antibiotics once because I had an infection and it was cheaper for her to get them in Mexico than for myself to fill the prescription here.


Given the cheap cost of transatlantic flights, it would be cheaper for many people to fly to London and get their entire monthly prescription filled for £7.50 at a branch of Boots.
 
2014-05-10 04:58:17 AM  
" However, according to  USA Today, "Mexican immigrants living in California, Arizona, Texas and New Mexico have long sought health care in border cities such as Tijuana, Mexicali and Nogales. The Affordable Care Act won't change that, experts said."

WTF.

If Obamacare is so bad, why do the farktards need to grasp at bullshiat like this?
 
2014-05-10 05:18:45 AM  

jjorsett: Sgt Otter: SilentStrider: Is there a reliable source for this? Or just Breitbart?

It's sourced from a USA Today article.  It's still the absurdity of Bretibart.com being "concerned" that not enough Mexican immigrants are buying ACA plans.

It's a valid concern. Dragooning the young and healthy -- which immigrants tend to be -- into Obamacare is how they planned to offset costs from the older and sicker. Not that Democrats really care about balancing the books; if they have to spend many unexpected billions more than planned, that'll be hunky dory with them. Deficits don't matter except when Republicans are President.


That's because they know how to really rack it up. Reagen was one of the best, with george h as a close 2nd. Just because you hide the cost of defence doesn't mean it goes away. The people still pay the debt of war, even if you hide it or delay it.
 
2014-05-10 05:20:09 AM  

Petey4335: Mugato: I signed up for Obamacare because I'm in a period where I don't have corporate healthcare. So the list of healthcare providers on my plan aren't accepting new patients for the next three months, so I have to pay for healthcare that I can't use or else pay some fine or tax or whatever. I'll have healthcare from my company in a month anyway but I can see how some people might be pissed off at how this is all handled.

So did I. Until april 1 I was 'covered' by a high deductable (3.5k) HSA plan under WI HIRSP plan because I was denied private insuance due to flat feet. My wife was also under the same plan due to her various health issues. My 3 kids are guarenteed medicaid until they 18 because they are former foster children. Under our new plan, thanks to the health exchanges, the wife and I are on a PPO which costs so much less than the old plan, without a subdidy, because I make enough to support my family enough, so my wife can stay home and homeschool to bring our kids up to the academic level of their peers, that we also can afford vision ( all 5 of us wear glasses) and dental, for all 5 of us,for cheaper than what we paid before, and the PPO covers more.

I saw my PCD last monday for a physical. He even congradulated me on the new plan. Then again, my PCD is awesome. Doesn't talk down to me. Explains in detail. Shows me everything he inputs and reports on his laptop.

/please escuse typos and such. Im on the nook.


Say what?
 
2014-05-10 05:21:13 AM  

jjorsett: Sgt Otter: SilentStrider: Is there a reliable source for this? Or just Breitbart?

It's sourced from a USA Today article.  It's still the absurdity of Bretibart.com being "concerned" that not enough Mexican immigrants are buying ACA plans.

It's a valid concern. Dragooning the young and healthy -- which immigrants tend to be -- into Obamacare is how they planned to offset costs from the older and sicker. Not that Democrats really care about balancing the books; if they have to spend many unexpected billions more than planned, that'll be hunky dory with them. Deficits don't matter except when Republicans are President.


Why is it you lie every time you post? What is it with Republicans and their pathological need to lie?
 
2014-05-10 05:46:22 AM  

ghare: jjorsett: Sgt Otter: SilentStrider: Is there a reliable source for this? Or just Breitbart?

It's sourced from a USA Today article.  It's still the absurdity of Bretibart.com being "concerned" that not enough Mexican immigrants are buying ACA plans.

It's a valid concern. Dragooning the young and healthy -- which immigrants tend to be -- into Obamacare is how they planned to offset costs from the older and sicker. Not that Democrats really care about balancing the books; if they have to spend many unexpected billions more than planned, that'll be hunky dory with them. Deficits don't matter except when Republicans are President.

Why is it you lie every time you post? What is it with Republicans and their pathological need to lie?


I don't think he's a republican. Just a troll. Although it's hard to tell them apart at times, i'll give you that.
 
2014-05-10 07:16:17 AM  
hangouthangten.files.wordpress.com /Aw crap, not again!
//Wait... This is serious...
 
2014-05-10 07:50:16 AM  
Jeepers farking creepers, is this all they have on "Obamacare"?  The Affordable Care Act must be working even better than I thought if the right wing are now concerned about the plight of Mexican Immigrants getting proper medical care.

It is amazing how conservatives have made a 180 degree turn on their views regarding Mexican immigrants and the ACA.  At one time conservatives were worried about Mexican nationals getting healthcare from ACA approved insurance on the exchanges.  Of course if you took these conservatives aside, agreed it was a problem, and suggest you work together to fix the problem, and you will be accused of wanting "amnesty".
 
2014-05-10 08:11:58 AM  

Tellingthem: It was also common to go to Canada back in the day. I went there in the 90's to get an opinion on Lasik becuase it was much cheaper there than here. Couldn't get the surgery but i did get some Cubans.


....I assume you're talking about cigars.
 
2014-05-10 08:19:54 AM  
I read the headline as "Obamacare has made medical marijuana so affordable...".  I need to have my eyes checked.
 
2014-05-10 08:29:32 AM  

Fupac: I need to have my eyes checked.


I hear it's cheaper if you do it in Mexico.
 
2014-05-10 08:46:55 AM  
How about a big hearty, heart-felt "F#CK YOU!!! to the GOP.
 
2014-05-10 08:48:40 AM  

ds615: Fupac: I need to have my eyes checked.

I hear it's cheaper if you do it in Mexico.


Ha! Very nice.
 
2014-05-10 08:51:36 AM  
I've been doing that for years and I live in Texas.

Kidney stone in Texas? 8000+ dollars
Kidney stone in Mexico? 300 dollars.
 
2014-05-10 08:52:44 AM  
But as long as they're there, might as well go see a donkey show, right?
 
2014-05-10 08:59:26 AM  
My mother in law had to get crowns on 8 teeth at $2,500 a pop.  Her Canadian dental plan only covered $2,500 a year so she got one done.  She made a vacation of it and went to China for the other 7 which I think were about $400 each.  The trip cost her about $5K.

So instead of $17,500 for crowns.  She paid about $7,800 ($10K in savings) and got a nice free trip out of it as well.  A year after that, one crown failed (the one she had done in Canada).
 
2014-05-10 09:12:08 AM  
Irma Montalvo tells  USA Today seeing a Tijuana doctor only costs $15 and that she likes her some figs, likes 'em good.
 
2014-05-10 09:28:37 AM  
OOOOOOOO BOMB AHHHHHHH
 
2014-05-10 09:28:40 AM  

jjorsett: Sgt Otter: SilentStrider: Is there a reliable source for this? Or just Breitbart?

It's sourced from a USA Today article.  It's still the absurdity of Bretibart.com being "concerned" that not enough Mexican immigrants are buying ACA plans.

It's a valid concern. Dragooning the young and healthy -- which immigrants tend to be -- into Obamacare is how they planned to offset costs from the older and sicker. Not that Democrats really care about balancing the books; if they have to spend many unexpected billions more than planned, that'll be hunky dory with them. Deficits don't matter except when Republicans are President.


*ahem* Iraq war.

How many people could have been insured for life with the "unexpected" trillion or so we spent on that adventure?
 
2014-05-10 10:02:54 AM  

FlashHarry: i believe medical tourism has been going on for quite some time, concernmitter.


Until mail order prescriptions (and Part D) became common there would be busloads of people, mostly elderly, that would take an overnight trip to Canada to fill their prescriptions. Granted, Windsor Ontario wasn't the most scenic place to visit but if it saved you hundreds of dollars, why not?
 
2014-05-10 10:03:48 AM  

namatad: Mentat: Lionel Mandrake: Well then,  it's about time we seriously consider the Republican plan...

...and what was that,again?

I thought it was ObamaCare.

I have been collecting SOME of the many complaints about Obamacare.

The GOP Plan
The GOP has not officially released their health care plan, but we have been able to figure out some of the details by listening to their complaints about Obamacare.

1) Your rates can never go up.  You will pay the same or less than what you are currently paying.
2) You never have to change doctors, in fact, doctors will be required to take you as a patient.
3) You can never be dropped or denied for pre-existing conditions.
4) Birth control is covered for free.
5) All doctors will be in all networks
6) The government website with details about this plan will be available 24 x 7 x 365. It will work flawlessly on day one and never be slow, no matter how many people try to use it at one time.
7) Insurance companies will be banned from ever dropping a plan.
8) Only 8 million people signed up for Obamacare, the GOP plan would have many many more people covered.
9) Some number of people lost their coverage, that will be undone with GOPcare. They will get their old plans back, at the same premium.
10) All medicines will be covered, no matter what the cost.

No seriously.
We have been told, over and over, that these are the TERRIBLE things about Obamacare.
And the GOP keeps telling us that they will repeal Obamacare and replace it with something better.
Right?

/left me know here or in email any major GOP PLAN features that I might have left out.


Nice.

/*golf clap*
 
2014-05-10 10:14:30 AM  

Mrtraveler01: jjorsett: Deficits don't matter except when Republicans are President.

Talk about projection.

And hasn't this been going on long before Obamacare? What am I missing exactly?


Deficits happen under all administrations in recent times. The only time the Democrats seem to care is when the guy in the O is from the GOP. Personally, I'd like to see us do something about it, regardless of who gets the credit, before we hit the wall.
 
2014-05-10 10:14:34 AM  

Lionel Mandrake: Well then,  it's about time we seriously consider the Republican plan...

...and what was that,again?


Die quickly, unless you're rich.
 
2014-05-10 10:20:24 AM  

jjorsett: Mrtraveler01: jjorsett: Deficits don't matter except when Republicans are President.

Talk about projection.

And hasn't this been going on long before Obamacare? What am I missing exactly?

Deficits happen under all administrations in recent times. The only time the Democrats seem to care is when the guy in the O is from the GOP. Personally, I'd like to see us do something about it, regardless of who gets the credit, before we hit the wall.


Strange, I remember there was a president between the two Bushes when deficits went down. Indded some say we actually had a small surplus. I wonder what party that President belonged to.
 
2014-05-10 10:25:44 AM  

Kevin72: FlashHarry: i believe medical tourism has been going on for quite some time, concernmitter.

Certainly as long as I've been living in California, going to Tijuana for medical has been a "thing". Which means 30 years and that's just what I know, so that proves 0bamacare is a failure and Sarah Palindrome should have been president.

/In modern times, medical tourism to Thailand, India, Costa Rica, etc can save so much money on certain medical or dental procedures to more than balance out the cost of the vacation.
//Ditto for clothing tourism in Thailand like if you suddenly need like 5 suit jackets upon graduation.
///not valid for sex tourism. You'll spend your money but have nothing to show for it (but memories and maybe VD if you play unsafely).


Was going to mention dental / cosmetic surgery tourism to Thailand... I know the dental is crazy cheap / good, and I'm pretty sure a zillion ladyboys could vouch for the cosmetic surgeons.
 
2014-05-10 10:26:57 AM  

jjorsett: The only time the Democrats seem to care is when the guy in the O is from the GOP.


Objection, complete strawman. Democrats propose budget after budget in this administration that lowers the deficit by the CBO score. The GOP shot every one down because they don't want to raise taxes. The GOP is for a deficit as long as they don't have to raise taxes on the top 1%.
 
2014-05-10 10:39:52 AM  
So,
What we're saying here is that the ACA lowered the costs but not lower than Mexico.
 
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