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(ABA Journal)   Got your expensive new law degree? It's now good enough for a job at Walmart   (abajournal.com) divider line 9
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6517 clicks; posted to Main » on 09 May 2014 at 4:38 PM (32 weeks ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2014-05-09 04:54:19 PM  
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farking good. The cost of legal services is way too high. The courts are a public resource that we all pay for, but only the wealthy can afford to utilize them. Big Law might not be happy about it, but everyone recognizes that with the flood of attorneys pouring in to a shrinking work pool, the prices have to come down.

Most of the attorneys I know would be fine with taking a significant cut in their hourly rate if they could get dependable volume and guaranteed payment. Unfortunately, for those that CAN afford legal services, a lower price is a signal of inferior skill, so an attorney that tries to drop their price is likely to find their clients going elsewhere.

It is going to take a large scale institution to open up the low cost legal services market in a way that is efficient enough to be economically viable. If Walmart is willing to make a run at it, more power to them.
2014-05-09 09:30:48 PM  
1 votes:
Hate to break it to you, but it's been like that for a while now. Patent/IP is still in demand, but general practitioners and other specialists have been going out of work for a while now.
2014-05-09 09:27:43 PM  
1 votes:

Jclark666: charlesmartel11235: CSB but I'm a double major in English Literature and Computer Science and a lot of people have told me that i should go into patent law with that combo. And my cousin went to state school law school and does patent law now and he seems to do fine. Does that check out?

A technical background is a terrible handicap to being a patent attorney. (This isn't snark.) It means you'll be inclined to be better at finding possible prior art which leaves you in the position of either including that information on your clients' patent applications, or being an unethical dumbass who's eventually going to get caught deliberately leaving information off of applications.

So, you're thinking, that means I'd be better as an offensive patent attorney, challenging ridiculous patents. No, understanding a technical issue generally means you think about it on an entirely different level than a potential juror who works the third shift at Wal-Mart. You actually speak a different language than them. It's even harder, because the defense will defend against your prior art with convoluted nuances that they'll deliberately float way above the jury's head. You have to explain how those nuances don't make a difference and to do so, you actually have to make them understand what those nuances are. You spend your entire rebuttal explaining the defense's case for them, and to Bob the night stocker, it sounds like you're agreeing with them.

This is because you will try to win the case on the fact that you're technically correct, while the other side will win on the fact that people are fairly easy to manipulate when they don't understand something but want to look like they do. They'll agree with you because you nod and smile and make agreement seem obvious, right?


Um, apparently you're not aware that a technical background is a requirement to be a patent lawyer?
2014-05-09 06:48:21 PM  
1 votes:
This is Wal Mart, so I would assume they are importing the lawyers for almost nothing from china then marking them up.
2014-05-09 05:51:11 PM  
1 votes:
Not sure why Wal-Mart's ultimate goal is to become a mall. There are malls already. Just buy a mall.
2014-05-09 05:25:41 PM  
1 votes:

salvador.hardin: farking good. The cost of legal services is way too high. The courts are a public resource that we all pay for, but only the wealthy can afford to utilize them. Big Law might not be happy about it, but everyone recognizes that with the flood of attorneys pouring in to a shrinking work pool, the prices have to come down.

Most of the attorneys I know would be fine with taking a significant cut in their hourly rate if they could get dependable volume and guaranteed payment. Unfortunately, for those that CAN afford legal services, a lower price is a signal of inferior skill, so an attorney that tries to drop their price is likely to find their clients going elsewhere.

It is going to take a large scale institution to open up the low cost legal services market in a way that is efficient enough to be economically viable. If Walmart is willing to make a run at it, more power to them.


Hogwash.  Most lawyers are not employed by big law firms, and most don't make that much money - or charge unreasonable fees. A lower rate than a big firm does not in any way signal inferior skill.  The same people that believe that big firm = better lawyer are the ones who will flip out at having to pay a thousand dollars to a lawyer to represent them in a divorce.  For some reason, people believe they are entitled to inexpensive legal work.  Why is that?  Yes, the system very much favors those with means but that does not mean that the people already struggling to make ends meet and serve everyone else should have to take even lower fees, while the big law rates keep going up.
2014-05-09 04:42:08 PM  
1 votes:

El Supe: $25 to get a document notarized in Canada, that seems awfully high, I've gotten it done at a public library in the USA  for a nominal fee


Don't most banks offer notarization, if you're an account holder?
2014-05-09 03:38:55 PM  
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$25 to get a document notarized in Canada, that seems awfully high, I've gotten it done at a public library in the USA  for a nominal fee
2014-05-09 03:11:25 PM  
1 votes:
See, the next step is WalMart stepping in as legal aid for people on trial and getting a government contract to provide that service. Mark my words.
 
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