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(The Atlantic)   Why Americans will never walk or bike to work, explained in a series of handy graphs. Basically the east coast has no use for bikes, the south has no use for walking, and 8 out of 10 people overall drive to work alone and always will   (theatlantic.com) divider line 471
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2014-05-09 08:26:24 AM
Yet biking to work in this area has doubled over the last several years.  Imagine that.  Cities build bike lanes and people actually use them.

I know.  Shocking!
 
2014-05-09 08:32:26 AM
It's not that we don't care for bikes on the East Coast (Boston), it's that the cars will murder you and it's not worth the stress.
 
2014-05-09 08:33:10 AM
I tried biking to work, but my wife freaked out when she saw all the tire tracks leading from the bedroom into the kitchen, and then on to my office.  The next time I did it, I wore a helmet, and she was happier.
 
2014-05-09 08:47:44 AM
Um...Smitty, I'm in Western Mass, and I bike 10 miles into work; I bike 10 miles back. You put in bike lanes, and folks use them. I average about 100 miles a week, and as a chef, that means that I'm not getting all soft in the middle. Yeah, there are a lot of spandex clad douchenozzles who tend to think that bike lanes are for folks to chat three abreast and take up most of a driving lane, and the odd folks who think that they should bike towards oncoming traffic, but overall folks who bike to and fro to actual work are making changes in lifestyle that are a dang sight healthier, and for damn sure it's a nice way to get ready for a day, and a good way to wind down after. I eat better, I sleep better, and it is a great way to reduce stress.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-05-09 08:51:37 AM
Good use of a non-truncated Y axis.

The strangest discrepancy: Newark finished in the top 15 in walking to work and in the bottom 20 for biking to work.

A bike is much more likely to be stolen than your feet.
 
2014-05-09 08:57:02 AM
I would happily bike to work if I had bike lanes to ride on. And a bike.  And a job.
 
2014-05-09 08:57:31 AM
I walk a block and a half to work. Suck it haters.
 
2014-05-09 08:58:55 AM
I work 25 miles from work and I have to wear a shirt and tie. Tripling my commute time and then having to take a whore's bath in the restroom when I get there isn't an option.
 
2014-05-09 09:03:58 AM

hubiestubert: Um...Smitty, I'm in Western Mass, and I bike 10 miles into work; I bike 10 miles back. You put in bike lanes, and folks use them.


western mass?  come on dude, your biggest threat out there on the mean streets of Sunderland is getting tangled in some crusty rasta's dreads.
 
2014-05-09 09:25:15 AM
I'd love to bike to work, but it's 11 miles and nowhere near flat.  Public transit doesn't exist here either.
 
2014-05-09 10:49:57 AM
I bike to and from work every day. Washington D.C. area.

This map is not realistic though. I find it hard to believe more people bike to and from work in freezing cold empty Montana than in warm year round crowded Florida. And Montana also ranks as one of the highest walk to work states? LOL. Must mean they are all ranchers and walk from their front door to their back yard.

www.washingtoncitypaper.com
 
2014-05-09 11:08:46 AM

Walker: I bike to and from work every day. Washington D.C. area.

This map is not realistic though. I find it hard to believe more people bike to and from work in freezing cold empty Montana than in warm year round crowded Florida. And Montana also ranks as one of the highest walk to work states? LOL. Must mean they are all ranchers and walk from their front door to their back yard.

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I live in WY.

I guess you'd be surprised to see how many people are riding bikes in the middle of January. I will ride unless the farking wind is howling 50 mph which, unfortunately, is most days during winter months.
 
2014-05-09 11:13:58 AM
Also just noticed Alaska is one of the highest states for walking to work. The polar bears appreciate this, as the walkers were delicious.
 
2014-05-09 11:19:52 AM
I bike because I'm too scared to drive. People are crazy out there.
 
2014-05-09 12:00:12 PM
Cycling from my home to my workplace is impractical. However, I support computers across multiple buildings and I frequently bring my bicycle to work so that I am able to travel to those buildings without use of an automobile.
 
2014-05-09 12:02:42 PM
Yeah, i'm moving to within 8 miles from work this weekend (previous commute 40miles one way), but riding that 8miles is a death trap.
 
2014-05-09 12:02:47 PM
I'm quitting my job for Christmas this year. Maybe sooner. That will be why I refuse to bike or walk to work. As for now, I rode my bike and the train to work like a good little socialist.
 
2014-05-09 12:03:07 PM
Well when you consider the average commute to work being about an hour drive, imagine walking or biking that. That's most of your day just getting to and from work. Not to mention that alot of areas roads aren't exactly bicycle friendly and I'd personally be worried about some non driving fark hitting me. Feel way safer in a car. Unless you are just a couple miles away from your work, walking and biking just isn't practical these days. Honestly I'd love to walk to work, but my 20 minute drive, most of which is interstate driving, would equal a few hours easy of walking.
 
2014-05-09 12:04:10 PM

Walker: I bike to and from work every day. Washington D.C. area.

This map is not realistic though. I find it hard to believe more people bike to and from work in freezing cold empty Montana than in warm year round crowded Florida. And Montana also ranks as one of the highest walk to work states? LOL. Must mean they are all ranchers and walk from their front door to their back yard.

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Its probably because when it is 100 degress and 100% humidity no one is walking or biking anywhere.
 
2014-05-09 12:04:45 PM
In Minnesota, try riding a bike or walking when it's -20F outside.

/ yes, anything is theoretically possible, but it'd be absolutely miserable
 
2014-05-09 12:04:50 PM
If Pittsburgh, Madison, and Minneapolis are in the top 10 the rest of you mooks have no excuse because those are some of the worst weather cities in the country.
 
2014-05-09 12:05:12 PM
As someone who lives in Portland, I'm here to tell you that the 6.1% number is BS.  That's measuring wishful thinking, or the number of people who have biked to work at least once in the past year.  Despite blowing irrational amounts of time and money ruining roads for cars by making them friendly to bikes, there still aren't anywhere near as many bikes on the roads as there are cars, and certainly nowhere near 6 out of 100.  Even the few hardcore bicycle enthusiasts I know drive a lot more often than they ride, because it's cold & rainy much of the year.
 
2014-05-09 12:05:21 PM

Gecko Gingrich: I work 25 miles from work and I have to wear a shirt and tie. Tripling my commute time and then having to take a whore's bath in the restroom when I get there isn't an option.


I hate having to wear a shirt to work, which is part of why I'm done with this BS.
 
2014-05-09 12:05:32 PM
I drive only 18 miles to work.  But since there is no bike friendly route for pretty much the intire way, biking is rather impossible.
But if I worked closer, I would love to.

Interseting tid bit...
When I was in high school, I had my license for my entire senior year.  I still took the bus every day.  I really didn't see much of a point in driving since I had a free ride.  And I didn't have to deal with parking.
 
2014-05-09 12:06:32 PM

jaybeezey: Yeah, i'm moving to within 8 miles from work this weekend (previous commute 40miles one way), but riding that 8miles is a death trap.


I think this is the real barrier to increased adoption of bicycling as a mode of practical transportation. Even if the distances are feasible, the infrastructure in many places was not designed to accommodate both Bikes and vehicle traffic. So yeah, bicycling is allowed on roads, and some people do it, but I would not ride my bike on most of the main routes in my area, it would be too harrowing with all the cars (for which the roads already cannot adequately handle the volume).

And in an already developed area, shoehorning a bike path in does not seem very likely.
 
2014-05-09 12:06:59 PM
Workers in Los Angeles are more likely to bike to the office than workers in New York City. In fact, at 0.8 percent, NYCers are as (un)likely to bike to work as Atlanta workers.

Hard to believe a city with the country's most comprehensive subway system and fluctuating weather would have fewer bike riders than one with a dry, mild climate and worthless mass transit.
 
2014-05-09 12:07:45 PM
It's a great idea, for people who don't work 45 miles from home. Even at 15mph avg, it'd take me 3 hours each way and I'd be dead when I got there. Flyover country.

/ -20F winters would be doubleplus suckage
 
2014-05-09 12:08:21 PM

Gecko Gingrich: I work 25 miles from work and I have to wear a shirt and tie. Tripling my commute time and then having to take a whore's bath in the restroom when I get there isn't an option.


Ditto.  We live midway between my wife's job and mine so bike range isn't really possible even though I'd like it to be.

Anyway, I like riding bikes even though I'm not particularly good at it.  People who will announce to you that they're a "cyclist" are usually just the worst.  Unless you're on a meaningful team or a bike messenger or something, you're just some dingus who hops on a bike like anyone else who does.  Defining yourself by it is a clear sign that you suck.

/I've noticed this a lot with Bikes and Rock Climbing.  They're not sports or competitions or whatever, somehow they become who you are.
 
2014-05-09 12:09:22 PM

TheManMythLegend: Walker: I bike to and from work every day. Washington D.C. area.

This map is not realistic though. I find it hard to believe more people bike to and from work in freezing cold empty Montana than in warm year round crowded Florida. And Montana also ranks as one of the highest walk to work states? LOL. Must mean they are all ranchers and walk from their front door to their back yard.

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Its probably because when it is 100 degress and 100% humidity no one is walking or biking anywhere.


This.  I try to bike most days for some exercise, not as much as I should.  But here, south of I-10, from April to October, you need to shower once you are done.  There are no showers near enough to work where I would not get nasty again just going from a gym to work.  Biking home when its 95 and high humidity is not much fun either.   Add to that there are hardly any bike paths or lanes, and you put your life into the hands of all the drivers, which are usually occupied by cells phones.
 
2014-05-09 12:09:52 PM
i don't walk or bike to work here, mainly because i live 22 or more miles (haven't actually measured it) from work. to be within what i consider walking distance (within a mile) the housing is far too expensive for our budget, and too urban for our liking. biking would take far too long...
AND...
it's texas. i sweat doing any activity at all anytime the temp is above 70. the LOW today was above 70, and it's not summer yet. there's no way i'm doing that much sweating in work clothes, and i'm not changing and feeling all sweaty all day
 
2014-05-09 12:11:17 PM

jylcat: It's not that we don't care for bikes on the East Coast (Boston), it's that the cars will murder you and it's not worth the stress.



In Russia (probably many countries), they commonly have cheap video cameras that record on a loop.  The idea -- as I understand it -- is to put them in a car window to record traffic accidents and provide objective proof in case of trouble.  Why not put those on your bike?  They're about $50-something and record in HD, so you'd get license plate information in the even of a car-strike.

If more people did that, hit and runs would be impossible.  Yes, it wouldn't help the first guy who got flattened, but if it became known that dangerous driving was being watched and anonymity wasn't possible, more politeness might ensue.

/ e.g.: http://www.amazon.com//dp/B00FONBG1A
 
2014-05-09 12:11:38 PM
I'd have to leave an hour and a half earlier, get home an hour and a half later, sit in a pool of my own seat all day, and be unable to drop off and pick up my very young children. This does not compute.
 
2014-05-09 12:11:40 PM
Cycling to work just isn't even a possible option for most people; it's just too far.  And how do you go to the store on the way home?
 
2014-05-09 12:11:50 PM

TheManMythLegend: Its probably because when it is 100 degress and 100% humidity no one is walking or biking anywhere.


I do. Biking comes with a built-in breeze.
 
Skr
2014-05-09 12:11:55 PM
Work is far away and weather is moody. Pretty simple.
 
2014-05-09 12:12:16 PM

robodog: If Pittsburgh, Madison, and Minneapolis are in the top 10 the rest of you mooks have no excuse because those are some of the worst weather cities in the country.


I rode my bike to class in Minneapolis in the winter once.

Once.
 
2014-05-09 12:12:26 PM

Iszael: And how do you go to the store on the way home?


Backpack.
 
2014-05-09 12:12:58 PM
I'd love to be able to walk or bike or bus to work. Instead I have a 30 mile drive from one suburb with no mass transit service to speak of, to another suburb with no mass transit service to speak of.

(Buses 'round here tend to mostly service the places where poor people live. And malls.)

My rent is cheap as hell, and if I move my housemate'll probably kill me.

So get out of my way. I've drivin' here.
 
2014-05-09 12:13:18 PM

Confabulat: TheManMythLegend: Its probably because when it is 100 degress and 100% humidity no one is walking or biking anywhere.

I do. Biking comes with a built-in breeze.


Funny fact: if it is literally 100 degrees and 100% humidity, a breeze would actually make you hotter.
 
2014-05-09 12:13:34 PM
I would love to bike to work, but the drivers here are terrifying, and the weather six months out of the year doesn't improve matters. In fact, I don't even like to drive to work. I tend to take public transportation instead.

/Boston
 
2014-05-09 12:13:37 PM
My job's 43 miles from home.  I don't really have enough hours in the day to walk or bike it, though I'd love to.  The gas is killin' me, financially.
 
2014-05-09 12:13:46 PM
I walk to the train, then walk to my office from the train.  I'm not sure if I count as a walker or using rail.

/rain, snow, sleet and polar vortices
 
2014-05-09 12:13:52 PM
My commute to work is a 5-minute bike ride along the harbor, then a 20 minute high speed ferry with an amazing view, then another 5 minute bike ride to the office.  A whole lot better than driving in at rush hour, and trying to find a place to park.
 
2014-05-09 12:14:13 PM

BunkyBrewman: Yet biking to work in this area has doubled over the last several years.  Imagine that.  Cities build bike lanes and people actually use them.

I know.  Shocking!


Doubling from 1% to 2% ride share isn't impressive.
 
2014-05-09 12:14:29 PM

jylcat: It's not that we don't care for bikes on the East Coast (Boston), it's that the cars will murder you and it's not worth the stress.


I don't live in Boston but this is my sentiment exactly.
 
2014-05-09 12:14:35 PM

Nick Nostril: It's a great idea, for people who don't work 45 miles from home


And as gas prices increase, 45 mile commutes will become financially ruinous enough that they will cease. Our biggest problem is that we are too damn spread out, but it will be self correcting, eventually.
 
2014-05-09 12:14:58 PM
I can explain it all in one pic:

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2014-05-09 12:15:28 PM

hubiestubert: Um...Smitty, I'm in Western Mass, and I bike 10 miles into work; I bike 10 miles back. You put in bike lanes, and folks use them. I average about 100 miles a week, and as a chef, that means that I'm not getting all soft in the middle. Yeah, there are a lot of spandex clad douchenozzles who tend to think that bike lanes are for folks to chat three abreast and take up most of a driving lane, and the odd folks who think that they should bike towards oncoming traffic, but overall folks who bike to and fro to actual work are making changes in lifestyle that are a dang sight healthier, and for damn sure it's a nice way to get ready for a day, and a good way to wind down after. I eat better, I sleep better, and it is a great way to reduce stress.


Year round?  I used to bike to work in the Spring and Fall when I lived in Winchester and worked in downtown Boston, about eight miles each way.  In the summer the heat/ humidity would murder me though, and I'd show up smelling like a Turkish prison by the time I arrived.  In the winter...  well, you know New England winters, that was just a no-go.  So about 3/4 of the year I took the train in.

Out here in the land of fruits and nuts, the problem is distance.  A thirty mile commute is not considered abnormal.
 
2014-05-09 12:16:23 PM
If you're going to do a study like, shouldn't you also include the distance of the commute?  This type of study is just to give instant gratification to the person doing the study that Americans are lazy.  I travel 30 mile/50 minutes each way.  I would never be home and awake...
 
2014-05-09 12:17:34 PM
At over 50 miles a day round trip for work I am unlikely to walk/ride a bike to work anytime soon and mass transit if it was available, is for losers.

Prefer sitting in my truck by myself, even if stuck occasionally in traffic than being crowed into a metal box with people of questionable, at best, mental stability and personal hygiene practices.


Could move closer to work but prefer living on a "lot" measured in acres than square feet.

Work as a free fitness center , exercise there.
 
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