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(AOL (UK))   Heavy truck drivers take bicycling lessons to make them more aware of cyclists, learn their weaknesses so they can more easily run them off the road   (cars.aol.co.uk) divider line 20
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2014-05-09 02:56:54 PM  
7 votes:
So... naturally... the cyclists should have to learn how to drive large trucks so that they realize they don't turn and stop on a dime, as well as having huge blind spots?
2014-05-09 01:02:29 PM  
7 votes:
Cyclists should be forced to take a physics class or three, till they get it.
2014-05-09 04:09:30 PM  
3 votes:
Look.  I'm a bicyclist.  I have near-collisions with trucks and cars almost every day.

Please, motorists.  Keep your eyes open for cyclists like me, who ride 30 miles per hour through a red light at a blind intersection at nine p.m. while wearing dark clothing before zipping the wrong way across seven lanes of traffic.

Share the road.
2014-05-09 03:10:18 PM  
3 votes:
How about just don't  use roads built for commerce as work out equipment and everyone would be better off. If you use your bike for actual transportation rock on.
2014-05-09 03:02:52 PM  
2 votes:

toadist: JPINFV: So... naturally... the cyclists should have to learn how to drive large trucks so that they realize they don't turn and stop on a dime, as well as having huge blind spots?

Yes,  I think that should also be required.


Given the way many car drivers behave around semis, EVERYONE should have to learn how to drive one.
2014-05-09 02:53:16 PM  
2 votes:
Yeah, cyclists are scum.
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-05-09 10:10:19 AM  
2 votes:
If you turn right (in America) in an urban area you're liable to have a big mess to hose off your truck or bus. Trucks slow down a lot for right turns and bikes pass them on the right.
2014-05-09 09:17:29 PM  
1 votes:
I live in an area where it's really not safe to ride a bike...two-lane back roads with hardly any shoulders, plenty of hills.  Had to drive around a cyclist today in my town who was practically in the middle of the road.

They say you should never honk at them because they may get startled and do something stupid.

Yeah, you gotta share the road, but no one ever said you had to like putting up with them and them holding up traffic because they won't get as far over to the right as possible....
2014-05-09 07:30:46 PM  
1 votes:
I will happily leave room when I pass a cyclist... once. If they pass me on the right while I'm at a red light I don't leave any room when I pass them again.
2014-05-09 05:03:26 PM  
1 votes:
When I owned a scooter rental, many of my customers had never been on motorized 2 wheels before.  Upon returning at the end of the day, many would comment about how they had a new respect for those who rode motorcycles, and had a better understanding why people loved to ride.
2014-05-09 04:39:58 PM  
1 votes:

Lamberts Ho Man: Cardinal rule - don't piss people off.

1. Stop for stop signs and signals.
2. Ride single file when there is traffic.
3. When riding in large groups, signal when it's safe for following traffic to pass.
4. When you get to a light, don't ride past all the people who were just delayed passing you on the past stretch.  It pisses them off to have to do it again.


Here's the thing.  When I'm on my bike, I don't have any obligation to follow any rules of the road whatsoever.  I can change lanes without looking and blow through stop signs with impunity.

And when I'm on my bike, I'm also a pedestrian and I have right of way and everyone else in the world must accommodate me.
2014-05-09 04:32:57 PM  
1 votes:
By the way ... for the non-cyclist drivers out there.  Here are a few cyclist behaviours you might not be familiar with that are practised by sane, responsible riders just trying to preserve their own lives.

1. Riding at least a foot to the left of the white line/shoulder/curb.

First rule of the road for safe cycling is to be predictable.  The edge of the road is often full of trash, glass, potholes, etc.  Hit a hole or flip a stick into your spokes at speed and you'll likely end up in traffic.  Or you spot it soon enough and you have to dart left quickly to avoid it.  Both put you where drivers weren't expecting you to be.

2. Taking the full lane on a narrow bridge, cresting a hill or going into a blind turn.

You can't see what's around that turn/over that hill.  But you probably have enough room to sneak by right?  Just quick, you'll hardly cross the line at all.  But when that truck comes the other way, who's going to get the shiatty end of the stick?  I'm guessing you won't think twice about jerking the wheel to the right to avoid a head on with him.  So I'm going to take the lane and make you understand that you're going into a blind turn in the wrong lane.

3. Staying in the through lane instead of all the way to the right at an intersection with a turn lane.

Yes, this pisses some people off.  Should be pretty obvious though - if I'm not turning, I shouldn't be in the turn lane.  It's a good way to get hit by somebody who is turning.

4. Using the left turn lane or left side of the lane when turning left.

See #3  You don't want to be turning left from the right side with through traffic.  Judgement is called for of course - if it's a busy road, I'll often go straight across and then cross with traffic from the other road.

5. Not riding on sidewalks and some bike paths.

This is a fantastic way to get hit by turning traffic which isn't expecting somebody to enter the intersection fast and without good sight lines.  Most bike paths aren't fit for more then a family outing with the kids on training wheels - incredibly poorly designed for actual riding.

Now a few for the cyclists.

Cardinal rule - don't piss people off.

1. Stop for stop signs and signals.
2. Ride single file when there is traffic.
3. When riding in large groups, signal when it's safe for following traffic to pass.
4. When you get to a light, don't ride past all the people who were just delayed passing you on the past stretch.  It pisses them off to have to do it again.


/ flame away...
2014-05-09 04:25:48 PM  
1 votes:

Suckmaster Burstingfoam: Yeah, cyclists are scum.


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2014-05-09 04:13:19 PM  
1 votes:
When I'm a pedestrian on a cross walk and some cyclist tries to ignore a red I take pleasure in farking with them.  Grabbing their arm tightly in 'shock' as they buzz in front of me is a riot, every damn time.
2014-05-09 04:04:18 PM  
1 votes:
As a former truck drive all I can do is to shake my head at this story.  From day ONE commercial drivers have it drilled into their minds that you must watch virtually everything at all times.  We get trained that we MUST maintain a feild of awareness that extends several truck lengths in from of the truck as well as from side to side.

Honestly I love to see this situation be applied in the opposite direct, here in the US.  Training for EVERYONE to NOT do stupid things in front of truckers.  'Big Rigs' are 80,000 pound ballistic missiles.  The laws of physics do not allow them to just stop for any nimrod that's in a hurry.  If you accelerate in front of a rig, dodge across three lanes of a traffic to make a turn, then stop for the red light you're probably going to get massed flat.  That's a story from my own book of idiotic highway stories.  I didn't mass the idiot.  But I did jack knife the truck across three lanes of traffic.  I'm still amazed that I didn't hit anyone at all in that mess.
2014-05-09 03:33:56 PM  
1 votes:

Norwegian Squirrel: I must admit I'm always fascinated by these cyclists threads on fark, are really cyclists so loathed?


Welcome to Fark. Most of these fatass keyboard commandos don't get out of the basement.
2014-05-09 03:23:52 PM  
1 votes:
I've logged alot of road miles all over the country on all kinds of roads.  Well into 5 figures.

The professional drivers - tractor trailers, etc. - don't scare me.  I've never had an issue with them.  They generally know where they are, where you are, and make sure those don't intersect.

The things that scare the shiat out of me on the road are, in ascending order:

1. All cars
2. Drivers with cell phones
3. RV drivers who spend 50 weeks out of the year in the Lexus, then drive HWY 1 in something the size of a greyhound bus pulling a trailer the other 2 weeks.  They have no fscking idea where they are.
4. 5th wheel drivers who have no idea just how far their mirrors stick out.

/NCSB
// waited in the rain for an hour for an ambulance holding a poncho over a guy who got his shoulder destroyed by one of these

5. Redneck asshole in car
6. Redneck asshole in pickup truck
7. Redneck asshole & friends in pickup truck

#7 combines the general asshole redneck tendencies with the "Hey y'all, watch this" phenomena and the stupid people in groups multipliers in full effect.  Have been intentionally run off the road, things thrown at me etc.  This was pretty rare when I started touring in the 80s and 90s, but it seems to have gotten much worse.

Haven't been much of a road rider for years, would like to do it again.  Mountain bikes are great, but there's something about hammering big gears with a tailwind on the open road.  But if I do, I'll have a gopro and be conspicuously armed.
2014-05-09 03:17:58 PM  
1 votes:
I really worry about cyclists on the road...scratching the chrome on the front bumper of my truck.
2014-05-09 02:59:07 PM  
1 votes:
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*DING*

aaaand ROUND TWO!
2014-05-09 02:56:05 PM  
1 votes:
Subby is a bit of a psychopath. Or does he think being crushed by a truck is a bit like a paper cut?
 
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