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(Yahoo)   Happy 40th to the Mel Brooks classic, Blazing Saddles. A film that simply could not be made in this "enlightened" era   (movies.yahoo.com) divider line 231
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2014-05-09 07:25:32 AM
It could be made, instead of Blazing Saddles we get Seth MacFarlane's unfunny racism and dick jokes in a western. It's about marketing, and comedies are marketed to 15-25 men instead of adults.
 
2014-05-09 07:31:11 AM
Heh, no subby, no it couldn't.
 
2014-05-09 07:32:23 AM
And if your argument is that it couldn't be made because there would be a massive public backlash due to the strong racism of the characters in the first half of the movie than how did Django Unchained win a damned Oscar?
 
2014-05-09 07:33:58 AM

WTF Indeed: And if your argument is that it couldn't be made because there would be a massive public backlash due to the strong racism of the characters in the first half of the movie than how did Django Unchained win a damned Oscar?


To be fair most of the cast is dead, so subby is technically correct
 
2014-05-09 07:40:52 AM

WTF Indeed: And if your argument is that it couldn't be made because there would be a massive public backlash due to the strong racism of the characters in the first half of the movie than how did Django Unchained win a damned Oscar?


Quentin Tarantino for some reason has a free pass to put racism and "the N word" in all his films. Except maybe Kill Bill. But I'm pretty sure there were only 2 black people in both films so there wasn't much of an opportunity.
 
2014-05-09 07:44:53 AM
Mongo just pawn in game of life.
 
2014-05-09 07:46:18 AM

WTF Indeed: how did Django Unchained win a damned Oscar?


You have an unusual idea of what constitutes a comedy.
 
2014-05-09 07:52:28 AM
Go do that voodoo that you do so well.
 
2014-05-09 07:58:49 AM

Gulper Eel: WTF Indeed: how did Django Unchained win a damned Oscar?

You have an unusual idea of what constitutes a comedy.


So do the people who make shiat like Not Another Teen Movie. Which is the sort of slapstick humorless toned down BS it would be made as.
 
2014-05-09 08:05:25 AM

Mugato: Heh, no subby, no it couldn't.


One could argue that it doesn't *NEED* to be made today.

Back in 1974, there were a lot more out-right racists, but it was that "sweet spot" where there were enough racists that making fun of them like that was relevant, but not so many that the movie couldn't be made because of the potential backlash from them.

I would argue that in a time when the president of the United States is a black man, who has been elected to a second term, that while racism might exist, it's marginalized to the point where it just isn't a significant force in American politics anymore.  There's no *NEED* for a film like Blazing Saddles to be made (and BTW, it's probably my favorite Mel Brooks film, with Young Frankenstein coming in second).

If you were to make that film today, who would you be poking fun at?   The Taggarts of this country are so utterly marginalized and few in number that it wouldn't make any sense.  It wouldn't have the political bite today that it had in 1974.
 
2014-05-09 08:18:46 AM
Racism today is by proxy, code words, and outright denial. The Cold War of racism, if you will.
 
2014-05-09 08:20:06 AM

Mugato: Quentin Tarantino for some reason has a free pass to put racism and "the N word" in all his films.


Okay, I'll bite. How in heck was "Jackie Brown" racist?
 
2014-05-09 08:24:48 AM
Sure it couldn't be made but not for the reason most would assume. The jokes weren't made in bad taste but as critical commentary on modern society. Little has changed since except our propensity to pretend it's all gone away.

The likes of those boot strappy town citizens, complete with their terrible attitudes, still exist today in large numbers. But they would never let this movie happen with their unrelenting complaints of being unfairly tarred and feathered for exercising their free speech rights. They would "grass roots" themselves all over the money people threatening boycotts and encouraging their numbers to attend the screenings of rival studios films in ever greater numbers. Etc.
 
2014-05-09 08:27:36 AM
De camp town ladies?
 
2014-05-09 08:41:14 AM
Subby is a ni**BONG**.
 
2014-05-09 08:42:14 AM
dittybopper:

If you were to make that film today, who would you be poking fun at?   The Taggarts of this country are so utterly marginalized and few in number that it wouldn't make any sense.  It wouldn't have the political bite today that it had in 1974.

Oh, I think there's a lot more of them than you realize.
 
2014-05-09 08:44:33 AM
Geeze, we're here to celebrate the 40th of a hi-larry-us movie and all you guys can talk about is racism?  Get on with the one liners from the film already!

/You said rape twice.
 
2014-05-09 08:44:33 AM
Thats why the reboot of The Bad News Bears sucked. There is nothing funnier than a 70s era fouled mouth racist. homophobe child. You were one of a kind Tanner Boyle!
 
2014-05-09 08:46:32 AM

dittybopper: Mugato: Heh, no subby, no it couldn't.

One could argue that it doesn't *NEED* to be made today.

Back in 1974, there were a lot more out-right racists, but it was that "sweet spot" where there were enough racists that making fun of them like that was relevant, but not so many that the movie couldn't be made because of the potential backlash from them.

I would argue that in a time when the president of the United States is a black man, who has been elected to a second term, that while racism might exist, it's marginalized to the point where it just isn't a significant force in American politics anymore.  There's no *NEED* for a film like Blazing Saddles to be made (and BTW, it's probably my favorite Mel Brooks film, with Young Frankenstein coming in second).

If you were to make that film today, who would you be poking fun at?   The Taggarts of this country are so utterly marginalized and few in number that it wouldn't make any sense.  It wouldn't have the political bite today that it had in 1974.


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2014-05-09 08:46:45 AM

stupiddream: Geeze, we're here to celebrate the 40th of a hi-larry-us movie and all you guys can talk about is racism?  Get on with the one liners from the film already!

/You said rape twice.


I like rape!
 
2014-05-09 08:47:16 AM
Baby, you're sucking on my elbow.
 
2014-05-09 08:47:50 AM
Somebody go get a shiat load of dimes!
 
2014-05-09 08:47:58 AM
Mongo is impressed ......... by the movie.

Let's not quibble over whether it could be made today or not, the fact is, it is made, and its a great movie.

Just got bored about two weeks ago and watched it again.
 
2014-05-09 08:51:22 AM
Up yours, subby!
 
2014-05-09 08:51:42 AM
I dunno, I think there's a huge market for making fun of backwoods idiots.
 
2014-05-09 08:52:10 AM

edmo: The jokes weren't made in bad taste but as critical commentary on modern society. Little has changed since except our propensity to pretend it's all gone away.


What is the difference?

No, I'm seriously asking, how would you tell the difference between a society that by and large isn't racist*, and one that is very racist but it's suppressed to the point where, except in very unusual circumstances, overtly acting racist gets you in trouble.

How could you measure the difference between the two?

How do you know when the battle has been won?

I mean, it's pretty obvious that you're *NEVER* going to completely suppress it.  There will always be overtly racist assholes out there, and in a way, like all fringe movements (especially hate based ones), they actually serve a couple of useful purposes:

First, they remind us of our past, so that we never go back.  We look at them and see what could happen if we aren't vigilant.  They are the living embodiment of "Sometimes your purpose in life is to serve as a warning to others".

Second, they serve as the canary in the coal mine on Free Speech issues:  We all hate Illinois Nazis, but I guarantee you that you'd hate a government that could imprison you for speaking your mind a whole lot more.

*Not the same thing as saying that racism or individual racists don't exist.
 
2014-05-09 08:54:33 AM

HotWingConspiracy: I dunno, I think there's a huge market for making fun of backwoods idiots.


Yes, but they've taken it over for themselves.  See:  Blue Collar Comedy Tour.
 
2014-05-09 08:55:30 AM

HotWingConspiracy: I dunno, I think there's a huge market for making fun of backwoods idiots.


The 'common clay of the new west' get outraged if you talk about them... well, they're outraged at all times anyway, so carry on..
 
2014-05-09 08:56:36 AM
Blazing Saddles. A film that simply could not be made in this "enlightened " era

It's twue! It's twue!
 
2014-05-09 08:57:31 AM
I just watched this yesterday (thanks Netflix!). Mel Brooks' commentary was mildly enjoyable. The movie brought back great memories. Thanks, Dad, for being cool and letting me watch this when I was seven.
 
2014-05-09 08:57:45 AM
Somebody's gotta go back and get a shiatload o' dimes!
 
2014-05-09 08:58:10 AM
I miss Madeline Kahn.
 
2014-05-09 08:58:13 AM

foo monkey: stupiddream: Geeze, we're here to celebrate the 40th of a hi-larry-us movie and all you guys can talk about is racism?  Get on with the one liners from the film already!

/You said rape twice.

I like rape!


Who doesn't ?
 
2014-05-09 08:59:06 AM
Chappelle Show was pretty popular.  Or is that from a bygone era too?
 
2014-05-09 09:00:04 AM
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2014-05-09 09:00:44 AM
Send a wire to the main office, and tell them I said OWWWWW
 
2014-05-09 09:01:05 AM

WTF Indeed: It could be made, instead of Blazing Saddles we get Seth MacFarlane's unfunny racism and dick jokes in a western. It's about marketing, and comedies are marketed to 15-25 men instead of adults.


He is so smart, and we are so DUMB
 
2014-05-09 09:01:17 AM

Onkel Buck: There is nothing funnier than a 70s era fouled mouth racist. homophobe child.


Well, until they get elected to public office.
 
2014-05-09 09:03:13 AM
Taggart looks like that Gov from Texas.
 
2014-05-09 09:04:12 AM
Too Jewish?
 
2014-05-09 09:04:24 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2014-05-09 09:05:17 AM

Hawnkee: Subby is a ni**BONG**.


Subby is near?
 
2014-05-09 09:06:11 AM
Badges?
 
2014-05-09 09:06:17 AM
The only thing that could be made as a "Blazing Saddles" today would be something that made fun of the Muslim faith.  Even Mel Brooks isn't that brave or crazy!

/You know... being a Jew.
 
2014-05-09 09:07:13 AM
Excuse me while I whip this out.
 
2014-05-09 09:07:36 AM
A lot of entertainment like Blazing Saddles is a product of its era. Not only was it full of the sort of social and racial commentary that others have mentioned, but it was a form of subversive comedy that was not available anywhere else. On TV you had All in the Family, but that was pretty much it. Hell, Saturday Night Live, which came out a year later, was considered "subversive." Today, you can find programming on any basic cable station that covers the same ground as Blazing Saddles did.
 
2014-05-09 09:09:05 AM

real_headhoncho: The only thing that could be made as a "Blazing Saddles" today would be something that made fun of the Muslim faith.  Even Mel Brooks isn't that brave or crazy!

/You know... being a Jew.


Making fun of a religion?  No.  Blazing Saddles made fun of bigotry.. you wouldn't make a pro-bigotry version of it.
 
2014-05-09 09:09:34 AM

WTF Indeed: It could be made, instead of Blazing Saddles we get Seth MacFarlane's unfunny racism and dick jokes in a western. It's about marketing, and comedies are marketed to 15-25 men instead of adults.


Well, there was also all the gay jokes.
 
2014-05-09 09:11:42 AM
It was the era of Archie Bunker.
That shiat would get 500 people fired in a heartbeat nowadays.
 
2014-05-09 09:11:47 AM
Oh, and I'm not exactly going out on a limb here, but in case anyone didn't know/forgot, Gene Wilder is a comedic genius.
 
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