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(National Post)   In an interesting twist, a heterosexual man files human rights complaint to get the same benefits afforded to homosexuals   (news.nationalpost.com) divider line 25
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2014-05-09 01:50:58 AM
14 votes:
Good.  Either parent should be able to claim "primary caregiver" rights to an infant and get the benefits that come from that.  It shouldn't be based on the parents' sex or sexual orientation.

/heterosexual who has no plans to have kids and, therefore, doesn't benefit from this in any fashion
2014-05-09 04:54:07 AM
7 votes:
I agree with him.

Mothers are not more important than fathers, and the guy said HE was going to be the primary caregiver.

If a company will give the extra leave to a gay man, then they are clearly discriminating against him based on his sexual orientation, which is illegal.
2014-05-09 06:28:22 AM
5 votes:

Luven: What about the single person who's paying higher rates and working longer hours so you can go fertilize your crotch fruit ?


Since you've chosen to forego your evolutionary duty and not produce offspring, your role in society as a sterile worker is to produce additional resources for the benefit of breeding pairs and thus improve the prospects of the community's young.
2014-05-09 05:06:21 AM
4 votes:

The more you eat the more you fart: I agree with him.

Mothers are not more important than fathers, and the guy said HE was going to be the primary caregiver.

If a company will give the extra leave to a gay man, then they are clearly discriminating against him based on his sexual orientation, which is illegal.


More like discriminating against lifestyle choice/circumstance.  Not that I'm calling gay a lifestyle choice, but whether a surrogate is used or adoption, and whether a single gay man or part of a couple, parental leave should be just that; I'm just saying that sexual orientation is kind of irrelevant to the leave, or should be anyway.  To give maternity leave and not paternity leave is discrimination based on gender, or such could be argued.
2014-05-09 05:04:12 AM
4 votes:
The HR director's argument that he can't give birth applies to gay men, too. I don't know how they thought fighting him was a good idea.
2014-05-09 08:27:37 AM
2 votes:
Okay. Equal rights for everyone. Good.
2014-05-09 06:56:12 AM
2 votes:
If you are a feminist and you support equalizing wages for women, and you do not support men being given paternity leave rights, then you are biting off your nose to spite your face. You can try all the wage-shoehorning you like, but the free market will get around it until we stop addressing the symptoms and start addressing the underlying causes. Women are at risk to take long leaves from work, while men are not. If men suddenly are seen as having the same risk, then employers will have to factor that completely out of the equation, and the relative value of women will increase, along with their compensation.
2014-05-09 06:52:08 AM
2 votes:

Luven: What about the single person who's paying higher rates and working longer hours so you can go fertilize your crotch fruit ?


You fertilize them BEFORE they become crotch fruit. If you do that after, the police will probably want a word with you.
2014-05-09 06:23:02 AM
2 votes:
It doesn't stop there. Keep fighting until true equality is achieved. Those of you heterosexuals who would join the military, make it clear that being segregated from the opposite sex in the barracks is a clear and indefensible denial of equal rights.
2014-05-09 05:14:23 AM
2 votes:
What about the single person who's paying higher rates and working longer hours so you can go fertilize your crotch fruit ?
2014-05-09 09:43:59 AM
1 votes:

hasty ambush: Parental/maternity leave is stupid. If you cannot afford to take the time off to commit parenthood (for the most part a voluntary decision) why should others, tax payers and/or employers, have to assume the financial burden of that decision?


Presumably because it is in society's interest (as a whole) that people generate more future taxpayers. Keeps the civilization running, and we'll have people to take over running the place when we're old and just want to watch Matlock all day.
2014-05-09 09:14:30 AM
1 votes:
This is over his employers top up plan. During maternity/parental leave the parents only get 60% of their salary from the government (up to $39,000/year). Many companies have benefits that top up the compensation on top of the federal ei payments.

When I adopted my son, I was told by my company that they only topped up the maternity portion of the leave (first 15 weeks that only biological mothers can take) and not the parental leave portion which adoptive parents and fathers can take.

Sounds like his company only tops up the maternity leave portion as well, but said the primary gay parent also gets to claim this benefit.

As an adoptive female parent who had heard all about my company's amazing benefit package for parents and didn't get squat because I didn't squeeze my son out of my body, I'd get all Sue-y too if they said Jimmy got them because he was married to Bob.
2014-05-09 09:11:44 AM
1 votes:

Tommy Moo: The more you eat the more you fart: Luven: What about the single person who's paying higher rates and working longer hours so you can go fertilize your crotch fruit ?

Its not a new parent's fault that you cant get someone to fark you.

Paying for your kids also isn't his problem.


That's how group insurance works. I also pay for other people who end up with cancer, heart disease, ALS....
2014-05-09 08:42:14 AM
1 votes:

Syrrh: They already have the benefit of choosing when it's going to happen so they can plan a time for it that won't be too disruptive. They don't need to stay home to recover from an exhausting hospital stay, a ruined cooch, and several hours a day of breastfeeding.


You pretty obviously know nothing about the adoption process.

I'll give you a hint: there isn't a big silo full of babies where you can drop by whenever you want.
2014-05-09 08:26:08 AM
1 votes:
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2014-05-09 08:21:50 AM
1 votes:
It's bullshiat.
Yeah, I don't see why *adopting* parents of any sort need a leave. Take some farking vacation time and get over it.

They already have the benefit of choosing when it's going to happen so they can plan a time for it that won't be too disruptive. They don't need to stay home to recover from an exhausting hospital stay, a ruined cooch, and several hours a day of breastfeeding.
2014-05-09 08:08:26 AM
1 votes:
Parental/maternity leave is stupid. If you cannot afford to take the time off to commit parenthood (for the most part a voluntary decision) why should others, tax payers and/or employers, have to assume the financial burden of that decision?
2014-05-09 07:11:33 AM
1 votes:

zzrhardy: Luven: What about the single person who's paying higher rates and working longer hours so you can go fertilize your crotch fruit ?

I remained parasite free and was able to retire at 42. Have no qualms whatsoever about throwing a bit more into the kitty, to ensure when I am in the nursing home there is someone around who speaks English to tell the foreign workers to wipe my arse front to back, and not the other way around.


Yeah, I'm sure that the drug addicted ghetto thug that is making minimum wage to take care of you will have all kinds of respect for the fact that you paid some money a long time ago. If there is nobody there who cares to look out for you, they can and will do whatever they want to you - and the richer and whiter you used to be, the harder they will laugh at you. Hell is the place where people go who put their faith in money.
2014-05-09 07:04:29 AM
1 votes:

Luven: What about the single person who's paying higher rates and working longer hours so you can go fertilize your crotch fruit ?


I remained parasite free and was able to retire at 42. Have no qualms whatsoever about throwing a bit more into the kitty, to ensure when I am in the nursing home there is someone around who speaks English to tell the foreign workers to wipe my arse front to back, and not the other way around.
2014-05-09 06:42:11 AM
1 votes:

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: Luven: What about the single person who's paying higher rates and working longer hours so you can go fertilize your crotch fruit ?

Since you've chosen to forego your evolutionary duty and not produce offspring, your role in society as a sterile worker is to produce additional resources for the benefit of breeding pairs and thus improve the prospects of the community's young.


I'd argue that with current population, not breeding is actually doing a service  to our species in and of itself. Besides, breeding should only be done with those whose genes stand to benefit the whole in the longterm. Only way to get rid of bad genes (genetic illness, etc) is to prevent said genes from being bred forward.
2014-05-09 06:06:18 AM
1 votes:

Luven: What about the single person who's paying higher rates and working longer hours so you can go fertilize your crotch fruit ?


Who cares about really ugly people anyway? Get back to work.
2014-05-09 05:36:23 AM
1 votes:

Luven: What about the single person who's paying higher rates and working longer hours so you can go fertilize your crotch fruit ?


Its not a new parent's fault that you cant get someone to fark you.
2014-05-09 05:33:41 AM
1 votes:

Luven: What about the single person who's paying higher rates and working longer hours so you can go fertilize your crotch fruit ?


Sucks to be you, forever alone guy.
2014-05-09 05:16:19 AM
1 votes:

moothemagiccow: The HR director's argument that he can't give birth applies to gay men, too. I don't know how they thought fighting him was a good idea.


It also applies to non-fertile women that adopt.

And what about single parents? Maybe they need 2 shares of leave since they are carrying the burden of two parents.
2014-05-09 05:05:40 AM
1 votes:
So this is the slippery slope I was hearing about.


WHAT A DAMNED FOOL I WAS! I should've realized that by wanting the same rights as heterosexuals I was advocating greater equality between the sexes!

/brb, joining WBC.
 
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