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(Daily Mail)   Italian prisoners will get their sentences reduced by three days for every book they read while in jail   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 86
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2014-05-08 07:36:21 PM  
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2014-05-08 07:40:17 PM  
Will this apply to Amanda Knox?
 
2014-05-08 07:42:40 PM  
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2014-05-08 07:56:31 PM  
But they have to be more than 400 pages and comic books don't count

Well, there goes the "See Spot Run" marathon.
 
2014-05-08 08:15:49 PM  
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2014-05-08 08:16:46 PM  

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I was thinking more along the lines of "See Spot Run"
 
2014-05-08 08:16:46 PM  

fusillade762: But they have to be more than 400 pages and comic books don't count

Well, there goes the "See Spot Run" marathon.


oh wow I guess I mean I could deal with prison if I had a decent library. Like prison would be a great time to learn a language like french or spanish and get acquainted with the weightier side of fiction like William Gaddis, or Tolstoy

/also get my swole on too prob like that gawker guy
 
2014-05-08 08:18:06 PM  
F5 and I arnt on speaking terms
 
2014-05-08 08:56:53 PM  
Anarchists Cookbook?
 
2014-05-08 08:59:08 PM  
With that kind of deal, I could set a whole cell block free. I average about a novel per day when I'm just lazing around the back porch in summer. When I need to, I can bang one out in about 3 hours. A full day reading every day (9 hours' reading plus breaks) for a week? Call it 3 books a day... that's 63 days' credit.

Two months in one week, 110 months in a year. That's a lot of jaywalkers.
 
2014-05-08 09:32:48 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: F5 and I arnt on speaking terms


No worries. Great minds, etc.
 
2014-05-08 09:42:56 PM  

doglover: With that kind of deal, I could set a whole cell block free. I average about a novel per day when I'm just lazing around the back porch in summer. When I need to, I can bang one out in about 3 hours. A full day reading every day (9 hours' reading plus breaks) for a week? Call it 3 books a day... that's 63 days' credit.

Two months in one week, 110 months in a year. That's a lot of jaywalkers.


Seriously.  Considering committing a crime in Italy just to get away from the kids and have some reading time to myself.
 
2014-05-08 10:00:41 PM  

God Is My Co-Pirate: doglover: With that kind of deal, I could set a whole cell block free. I average about a novel per day when I'm just lazing around the back porch in summer. When I need to, I can bang one out in about 3 hours. A full day reading every day (9 hours' reading plus breaks) for a week? Call it 3 books a day... that's 63 days' credit.

Two months in one week, 110 months in a year. That's a lot of jaywalkers.

Seriously.  Considering committing a crime in Italy just to get away from the kids and have some reading time to myself.


If it's Dostevsky, you should get like a whole month knocked off.
 
2014-05-08 10:13:13 PM  
I recommend they read "Famous Jewish Sports Legends"
 
2014-05-08 10:17:49 PM  
If you were in the jail known as Lionville Junior High in 1972, you were sentenced to the SRA program with Mrs. Rimel, who to this day is still the hottest woman I have ever met.

My smallish hat is off to you, dear lady.

/i went skating on her pond once
//haven't fully recovered yet
 
2014-05-08 11:15:51 PM  
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2014-05-08 11:18:34 PM  
FTFA: "British jails may have banned books for inmates ..."
WTF, that is cruel and unusual punishment.  Glad we became independent of them!  If I were in a place like that all I would want to do is eat sleep and read.   Isn't that the model of a well behaved person in confinement?
 
2014-05-08 11:23:04 PM  

rev. dave: FTFA: "British jails may have banned books for inmates ..."
WTF, that is cruel and unusual punishment.  Glad we became independent of them!  If I were in a place like that all I would want to do is eat sleep and read.   Isn't that the model of a well behaved person in confinement?


I came here to say that
 
2014-05-08 11:27:03 PM  

drjekel_mrhyde: rev. dave: FTFA: "British jails may have banned books for inmates ..."
WTF, that is cruel and unusual punishment.  Glad we became independent of them!  If I were in a place like that all I would want to do is eat sleep and read.   Isn't that the model of a well behaved person in confinement?

I came here to say that


Yeah I think that's the bigger story here.

Why the fark would you ban books?
 
2014-05-08 11:27:20 PM  
"The Count of Monte Cristo: A How-To Version"
 
2014-05-08 11:27:32 PM  

doglover: With that kind of deal, I could set a whole cell block free. I average about a novel per day when I'm just lazing around the back porch in summer. When I need to, I can bang one out in about 3 hours. A full day reading every day (9 hours' reading plus breaks) for a week? Call it 3 books a day... that's 63 days' credit.

Two months in one week, 110 months in a year. That's a lot of jaywalkers.


About the same here, I can read 3-4 books in a day as well!

I once did some time, With this program I could have finished those 90 days in 3 weeks easy.

FYI-the libraries in a jail suck in the US.
 
2014-05-08 11:28:24 PM  
Time enough at last.

As an inveterate reader I would commit crimes to have this opportunity.  As long as I could choose what I read.
 
2014-05-08 11:32:26 PM  

doglover: Call it 3 books a day... that's 63 days' credit.


You could finish a 20-year sentence in two years.
 
2014-05-08 11:32:30 PM  

NateAsbestos: drjekel_mrhyde: rev. dave: FTFA: "British jails may have banned books for inmates ..."
WTF, that is cruel and unusual punishment.  Glad we became independent of them!  If I were in a place like that all I would want to do is eat sleep and read.   Isn't that the model of a well behaved person in confinement?

I came here to say that

Yeah I think that's the bigger story here.

Why the fark would you ban books?


Do you not see this thread full pf would be felons planning a trip to Italy now?
 
2014-05-08 11:35:42 PM  
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2014-05-08 11:36:16 PM  

rev. dave: FTFA: "British jails may have banned books for inmates ..."
WTF, that is cruel and unusual punishment.  Glad we became independent of them!  If I were in a place like that all I would want to do is eat sleep and read.   Isn't that the model of a well behaved person in confinement?


Impressive, so you actually read the article, but still didn't understand it.

Not much credit for you in Italy. :)
 
2014-05-08 11:37:04 PM  

Quaker: doglover: Call it 3 books a day... that's 63 days' credit.

You could finish a 20-year sentence in two years.


According to the article, it's a maximum of 48 off per year.
 
2014-05-08 11:37:45 PM  

rev. dave: FTFA: "British jails may have banned books for inmates ..."
WTF, that is cruel and unusual punishment.  Glad we became independent of them!  If I were in a place like that all I would want to do is eat sleep and read.   Isn't that the model of a well behaved person in confinement?


The reasoning is pretty hilarious too.  Apparently it's to prevent drugs being smuggled in.  Really?  In a book?  That's your main avenue of drug importation?  Unless they're smuggling in tabs of LSD I am highly skeptical.  Okay, MAYBE you could effectively conceal a reasonable amount inside a hardcover, but you know what the solution is there is? Don't let people send in hardcovers.  If they really want to send in a book that's only in hardcover it's not too hard to remove said hardcover first, leaving only thin pages that you can't hide shiat in.

Seriously, there's a thousand different ways they could have thwarted this alleged drugs-by-book epidemic that didn't involve banning books.  The only reason they did is because it's easy and plus hey, fark prisoners, they're sub-human.
 
2014-05-08 11:39:13 PM  
The story doesn't go into this, but how do they know if an inmate has read a report?  Do they have to write a book report, take a test, give an oral summary?  I mean, you can't rely on criminals to be honest and just take their word that they read it.  There has to be some form of verification, but who is going to verify and how?
 
2014-05-08 11:40:47 PM  

yukichigai: rev. dave: FTFA: "British jails may have banned books for inmates ..."
WTF, that is cruel and unusual punishment.  Glad we became independent of them!  If I were in a place like that all I would want to do is eat sleep and read.   Isn't that the model of a well behaved person in confinement?

The reasoning is pretty hilarious too.  Apparently it's to prevent drugs being smuggled in.  Really?  In a book?  That's your main avenue of drug importation?  Unless they're smuggling in tabs of LSD I am highly skeptical.  Okay, MAYBE you could effectively conceal a reasonable amount inside a hardcover, but you know what the solution is there is? Don't let people send in hardcovers.  If they really want to send in a book that's only in hardcover it's not too hard to remove said hardcover first, leaving only thin pages that you can't hide shiat in.

Seriously, there's a thousand different ways they could have thwarted this alleged drugs-by-book epidemic that didn't involve banning books.  The only reason they did is because it's easy and plus hey, fark prisoners, they're sub-human.


Inmates have been known to receive drugs by taking out the binding, hiding heroin or other drugs in the binding and reseal it.  Depending on the book and if done properly it can be hard to detect.
 
2014-05-08 11:41:51 PM  
I'd challenge the required page count being set at 400. Different editions of the same book can have different page counts while still having the same word count. And most of the books on my shelf clock in at 300 - 350 range. 'Stranger in a Strange Land', yes; 'Foundation', no; and 'Animal Farm' is right out.
 
2014-05-08 11:42:31 PM  

Daedalus27: yukichigai: rev. dave: FTFA: "British jails may have banned books for inmates ..."
WTF, that is cruel and unusual punishment.  Glad we became independent of them!  If I were in a place like that all I would want to do is eat sleep and read.   Isn't that the model of a well behaved person in confinement?

The reasoning is pretty hilarious too.  Apparently it's to prevent drugs being smuggled in.  Really?  In a book?  That's your main avenue of drug importation?  Unless they're smuggling in tabs of LSD I am highly skeptical.  Okay, MAYBE you could effectively conceal a reasonable amount inside a hardcover, but you know what the solution is there is? Don't let people send in hardcovers.  If they really want to send in a book that's only in hardcover it's not too hard to remove said hardcover first, leaving only thin pages that you can't hide shiat in.

Seriously, there's a thousand different ways they could have thwarted this alleged drugs-by-book epidemic that didn't involve banning books.  The only reason they did is because it's easy and plus hey, fark prisoners, they're sub-human.

Inmates have been known to receive drugs by taking out the binding, hiding heroin or other drugs in the binding and reseal it.  Depending on the book and if done properly it can be hard to detect.


Again, that's why you don't allow in hardcovers or anything where the binding is separate from what actually holds the pages together.  You can't pull that trick on a pulp paperback or even most softcovers.
 
2014-05-08 11:44:52 PM  

DigitalCoffee: I'd challenge the required page count being set at 400. Different editions of the same book can have different page counts while still having the same word count. And most of the books on my shelf clock in at 300 - 350 range. 'Stranger in a Strange Land', yes; 'Foundation', no; and 'Animal Farm' is right out.


Animal Farm is a pamphlet.
 
2014-05-08 11:45:23 PM  

JasonOfOrillia: Time enough at last.

As an inveterate reader I would commit crimes to have this opportunity.  As long as I could choose what I read.


Yeah the punishment is you have to read random academic article compilations.
 
2014-05-08 11:47:02 PM  
With my luck, the only book available would be:

lopezbooks.com

Took me forever to get through this.
 
2014-05-08 11:47:50 PM  

jaylectricity: Will this apply to Amanda Knox?


Nope. She's not really Italian, only visiting.
 
2014-05-08 11:49:09 PM  

Daedalus27: yukichigai: rev. dave: FTFA: "British jails may have banned books for inmates ..."
WTF, that is cruel and unusual punishment.  Glad we became independent of them!  If I were in a place like that all I would want to do is eat sleep and read.   Isn't that the model of a well behaved person in confinement?

The reasoning is pretty hilarious too.  Apparently it's to prevent drugs being smuggled in.  Really?  In a book?  That's your main avenue of drug importation?  Unless they're smuggling in tabs of LSD I am highly skeptical.  Okay, MAYBE you could effectively conceal a reasonable amount inside a hardcover, but you know what the solution is there is? Don't let people send in hardcovers.  If they really want to send in a book that's only in hardcover it's not too hard to remove said hardcover first, leaving only thin pages that you can't hide shiat in.

Seriously, there's a thousand different ways they could have thwarted this alleged drugs-by-book epidemic that didn't involve banning books.  The only reason they did is because it's easy and plus hey, fark prisoners, they're sub-human.

Inmates have been known to receive drugs by taking out the binding, hiding heroin or other drugs in the binding and reseal it.  Depending on the book and if done properly it can be hard to detect.

1: they remove every cover from every book including paperbacks, at least in every jail I've ever been in. 2: paper is a poor medium for impregnating drugs into AFAIK. Usually it's fabric.
 
2014-05-08 11:49:44 PM  

spawn73: rev. dave: FTFA: "British jails may have banned books for inmates ..."
WTF, that is cruel and unusual punishment.  Glad we became independent of them!  If I were in a place like that all I would want to do is eat sleep and read.   Isn't that the model of a well behaved person in confinement?

Impressive, so you actually read the article, but still didn't understand it.

Not much credit for you in Italy. :)


I was expressing a personalized response.  I imagined myself in prison in Britain.   Much of the material I would want would not be in the prison library.   Various religious texts from selected major religions as well as the normal staples I read.  A lot of texts which would be suspicious to small minded guards.  I could likely get away with the local library stuff until I read it all.  Really if I was confined, I would read 1-3 books a day or more.  Everything! I would then need outside works.
 
2014-05-08 11:50:37 PM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: "The Count of Monte Cristo: A How-To Version"


We should file that under educational too, ought'n we?
 
2014-05-08 11:56:19 PM  
Tutti italiani loro dovrebbero leggere i libri che spiega come avere un governo non che merde. Ma, questi sono italiani io sono parlando di...
 
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2014-05-08 11:58:15 PM  
How much time would they add on for reading this:

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2014-05-08 11:58:35 PM  

Russ1642: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: "The Count of Monte Cristo: A How-To Version"

We should file that under educational too, ought'n we?


Isn't that that book written by some Dumbass?
 
2014-05-09 12:00:15 AM  

Daedalus27: The story doesn't go into this, but how do they know if an inmate has read a report?  Do they have to write a book report, take a test, give an oral summary?  I mean, you can't rely on criminals to be honest and just take their word that they read it.  There has to be some form of verification, but who is going to verify and how?


Well if you can't trust criminals to be honest when getting time off their sentences is at stake then who can you trust?????
 
2014-05-09 12:08:20 AM  
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2014-05-09 12:08:53 AM  

Russ1642: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: "The Count of Monte Cristo: A How-To Version"

We should file that under educational too, ought'n we?


subby shoulda used the Dumas tag.
 
2014-05-09 12:09:00 AM  

spawn73: rev. dave: FTFA: "British jails may have banned books for inmates ..."
WTF, that is cruel and unusual punishment.  Glad we became independent of them!  If I were in a place like that all I would want to do is eat sleep and read.   Isn't that the model of a well behaved person in confinement?

Impressive, so you actually read the article, but still didn't understand it.

Not much credit for you in Italy. :)


The article used the Italian system in a critique of the English book ban. I don't see anything incorrect in Dave's comment. Explain yourself.
 
2014-05-09 12:14:00 AM  

Loucifer: Russ1642: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: "The Count of Monte Cristo: A How-To Version"

We should file that under educational too, ought'n we?

subby shoulda used the Dumas tag.


*golf clap*
 
2014-05-09 12:16:18 AM  

doglover: With that kind of deal, I could set a whole cell block free. I average about a novel per day when I'm just lazing around the back porch in summer. When I need to, I can bang one out in about 3 hours. A full day reading every day (9 hours' reading plus breaks) for a week? Call it 3 books a day... that's 63 days' credit.

Two months in one week, 110 months in a year. That's a lot of jaywalkers.


It's capped at 16 books/year.

People who can read at a rate like you're giving aren't likely to end up in jail for an extended period (this only applies to people in for more than 6 months) in the first place.

yukichigai: The reasoning is pretty hilarious too. Apparently it's to prevent drugs being smuggled in. Really? In a book? That's your main avenue of drug importation? Unless they're smuggling in tabs of LSD I am highly skeptical. Okay, MAYBE you could effectively conceal a reasonable amount inside a hardcover, but you know what the solution is there is? Don't let people send in hardcovers. If they really want to send in a book that's only in hardcover it's not too hard to remove said hardcover first, leaving only thin pages that you can't hide shiat in.

Seriously, there's a thousand different ways they could have thwarted this alleged drugs-by-book epidemic that didn't involve banning books. The only reason they did is because it's easy and plus hey, fark prisoners, they're sub-human.


Or only permit hardcovers shipped directly from the bookstore.

As for books:

mirror.die.net
 
2014-05-09 12:17:06 AM  

Daedalus27: The story doesn't go into this, but how do they know if an inmate has read a report?  Do they have to write a book report, take a test, give an oral summary?  I mean, you can't rely on criminals to be honest and just take their word that they read it.  There has to be some form of verification, but who is going to verify and how?


I was thinking the same...but even if some sort of report were required, the prison would need an actual lit teacher/professor to read them. You could read the first and last 10 pages or back cover to write a decent enough report out to trick a dummy. Or, halfwit prisoners who actually completed books would write such misguided/unintelligible reports an educated moderator would reject them!

Faking it through to a B.S. is easy enough for an honest person, how hard should it be for a criminal to fake a few days off their sentence?
 
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