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2014-05-08 07:54:47 PM  
Others credit abstinence education

In related news: others are idiots.
 
2014-05-08 08:05:27 PM  
I would not take relationship advice from anyone in a hijab. Not just being a bigot here... But people who do are from a moral and religious fringe. On the same note, I wouldn't take said advice from a priest or ANYONE who literally wears their religion.

You know with 100% certainty that they take things on faith and they are the type of people not prone to questioning dogma (of any sort)
 
2014-05-08 08:20:41 PM  

sgnilward: I would not take relationship advice from anyone in a hijab. Not just being a bigot here... But people who do are from a moral and religious fringe. On the same note, I wouldn't take said advice from a priest or ANYONE who literally wears their religion.

You know with 100% certainty that they take things on faith and they are the type of people not prone to questioning dogma (of any sort)


you are literally a bigot. She's teaching a pretty liberal sex ed course far as I can tell. Also a lot of really liberal muslim women that I know have started wearing the hijab again, especially young ones. I think it may be a reaction to people like you.

/though it does confuse me when a lesbian gender and sexuality major wears a hijab
 
2014-05-08 08:20:49 PM  
Did anyone else think that article was suspiciously vague about what they're actually teaching kids in sex ed?
 
2014-05-08 08:42:00 PM  

sgnilward: I would not take relationship advice from anyone in a hijab. Not just being a bigot here... But people who do are from a moral and religious fringe. On the same note, I wouldn't take said advice from a priest or ANYONE who literally wears their religion.

You know with 100% certainty that they take things on faith and they are the type of people not prone to questioning dogma (of any sort)


Yeah this is one of the most bigoted things I have ever read on Fark, Bravo good job sitting the bar so high there.
 
2014-05-08 08:46:46 PM  
We put this book amongst our kids books and they look at it occasionally, our oldest two(5 and7) can read it, and we're waiting for questions about it, but none of them have inquired as yet.

It's not too late for them right? They still have a few years before we have to make sure the condoms on their person aren't expired, their dose of birth control is maintained and they have protection which they can jab in the thigh, twist and then yank out?
 
2014-05-08 08:47:21 PM  
2.bp.blogspot.com

/forgot the book
 
2014-05-08 08:51:45 PM  

sgnilward: I would not take relationship advice from anyone in a hijab. Not just being a bigot here... But people who do are from a moral and religious fringe. On the same note, I wouldn't take said advice from a priest or ANYONE who literally wears their religion.

You know with 100% certainty that they take things on faith and they are the type of people not prone to questioning dogma (of any sort)


I took sex-ed from fourth grade on from Jesuit priests and it was so comprehensive by 9th grade we were discussing blue balls, what they meant, and exactly what you shouldn't do to take care of them (rule #1: don't rape).  Over eight years we covered everything you could possibly want to know about sex, including mechanics, artificial birth control, natural birth control, relationships, and everything else under the sun.  We spent three weeks my senior year on different kinds of rape and sexual abuse.  This was in the late 70's - early 80's.  I've since found myself to be extremely well-schooled in sexual education compared to other people who are my age and, even worse, better schooled than most kids today.

So take your assumptions and check yourself, because you're probably a lot less educated than you think.  Your comment certainly leads me to believe so.
 
2014-05-08 08:54:49 PM  

charlesmartel11235: sgnilward: I would not take relationship advice from anyone in a hijab. Not just being a bigot here... But people who do are from a moral and religious fringe. On the same note, I wouldn't take said advice from a priest or ANYONE who literally wears their religion.

You know with 100% certainty that they take things on faith and they are the type of people not prone to questioning dogma (of any sort)

you are literally a bigot. She's teaching a pretty liberal sex ed course far as I can tell. Also a lot of really liberal muslim women that I know have started wearing the hijab again, especially young ones. I think it may be a reaction to people like you.

/though it does confuse me when a lesbian gender and sexuality major wears a hijab


'Literally' a bigot? he is admitting surprise at seeing a black woman in a hijab in Minnesota, and teaching a 'liberal' course.
This is the internets, people can express themselves.
 
2014-05-08 09:15:12 PM  

JoieD'Zen: charlesmartel11235: sgnilward: I would not take relationship advice from anyone in a hijab. Not just being a bigot here... But people who do are from a moral and religious fringe. On the same note, I wouldn't take said advice from a priest or ANYONE who literally wears their religion.

You know with 100% certainty that they take things on faith and they are the type of people not prone to questioning dogma (of any sort)

you are literally a bigot. She's teaching a pretty liberal sex ed course far as I can tell. Also a lot of really liberal muslim women that I know have started wearing the hijab again, especially young ones. I think it may be a reaction to people like you.

/though it does confuse me when a lesbian gender and sexuality major wears a hijab

'Literally' a bigot? he is admitting surprise at seeing a black woman in a hijab in Minnesota, and teaching a 'liberal' course.
This is the internets, people can express themselves.


So you don't read English well or you don't write English well, because what you are saying he said he didn't say?
 
2014-05-08 09:34:26 PM  

InterruptingQuirk: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 299x320]

/forgot the book


Yeah, I got that one as a kid, too. And its sequel, forget what it's called.
 
2014-05-08 10:23:07 PM  

sgnilward: Not just being a bigot here...


Yes, you are
 
2014-05-08 10:59:24 PM  

sgnilward: Not just being a bigot here... But people who do are from a moral and religious fringe.


People can observe the cultural traditions of their families and not be Fundamentalist extremists.
 
2014-05-08 11:10:38 PM  
fta I see them not connecting to their classmates.

So, teaching abstinence works.
 
2014-05-08 11:11:27 PM  

fusillade762: InterruptingQuirk: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 299x320]

/forgot the book

Yeah, I got that one as a kid, too. And its sequel, forget what it's called.


"Mom's First Episiotomy"
 
2014-05-08 11:15:57 PM  

Chariset: Did anyone else think that article was suspiciously vague about what they're actually teaching kids in sex ed?


Well it says they have frank discussions about the biology of pregnancy, I'm assuming they actually talk about the yucky parts. You're right it seemed a little light on details, but seemed to be heading in the right direction, and the only mention of abstinence was from what other people attributed the decline in teen pregnancy to.

Hell, even abstinence training is cool as long as they teach about sex ed. Pretty much everyone's parents did this. The good ones teach about safe sex and then tell their kids that they don't want them to have sex. Still abstinence, but there is actual common sense attached.
 
2014-05-08 11:20:10 PM  

sgnilward: I would not take relationship advice from anyone in a hijab. Not just being a bigot here... But people who do are from a moral and religious fringe. On the same note, I wouldn't take said advice from a priest or ANYONE who literally wears their religion.

You know with 100% certainty that they take things on faith and they are the type of people not prone to questioning dogma (of any sort)


Sorry, I would tend to agree.  I am not saying the woman in the article isn't  doing a good job more or less, but I would be wary of any advice from anyone who thinks that wearing something special is required by their god.

This goes for hijabs, habits, clerical collars, Mormon underwear, hacidic haircuts and yamaikas, and frankly skimpy bikinis for jesus if that exists. I just distrust anyone who involves gods in their morning decision of which socks to wear.
 
2014-05-08 11:22:26 PM  

sgnilward: I would not take relationship advice from anyone in a hijab. Not just being a bigot here... But people who do are from a moral and religious fringe. On the same note, I wouldn't take said advice from a priest or ANYONE who literally wears their religion.


I suppose next you're going to stop taking your car to your Amish mechanic.
 
2014-05-08 11:26:02 PM  

sgnilward: Not just being a bigot here



Not just a bigot, but a massive one to boot. Good job!
 
2014-05-08 11:29:02 PM  
Not just being a bigot here... But

Let little kitty help you, and gently teach by example.

i.imgur.com
 
2014-05-08 11:31:55 PM  
[successfultrollissuccessful.jpeg]
 
2014-05-08 11:32:59 PM  
They don't even mention TOP's sister program, BOTTOM.
 
2014-05-08 11:33:39 PM  
For anyone who believed me to be a bigot, I would highly suggest that you check your own prejudices.
 
2014-05-08 11:37:00 PM  

sgnilward: For anyone who believed me to be a bigot, I would highly suggest that you check your own prejudices.


/I for one am prejudiced against people whose invisible sky wizard commands them to wear certain clothes to be in their god's good graces
//it's irrational and serves no good purpose.
///slashies
 
2014-05-08 11:39:25 PM  

Donald_McRonald: They don't even mention TOP's sister program, BOTTOM.


Well now you're just sounding like a particle physicist.
 
2014-05-08 11:43:09 PM  

Donald_McRonald: They don't even mention TOP's sister program, BOTTOM.


And when you complete both programs you get a special SWITCH certificate.
 
2014-05-08 11:51:24 PM  

DeltaPunch: Donald_McRonald: They don't even mention TOP's sister program, BOTTOM.

Well now you're just sounding like a particle physicist.


How about getting some STRANGE?
 
2014-05-08 11:53:43 PM  

sgnilward: [successfultrollissuccessful.jpeg]


Yes, you successfully made yourself look like an ass.  Good one!!
 
2014-05-08 11:55:04 PM  

sgnilward: I would not take relationship advice from anyone in a hijab. Not just being a bigot here... But people who do are from a moral and religious fringe. On the same note, I wouldn't take said advice from a priest or ANYONE who literally wears their religion.


For what it is worth:  The person in the hijab is not necessarily claiming to be leading a completely sexless and relationshipless life.  The priest is.

Put another way, if the priest has any idea what he's talking about, then he's a hypocrite.
 
2014-05-08 11:55:51 PM  

sgnilward: DeltaPunch: Donald_McRonald: They don't even mention TOP's sister program, BOTTOM.

Well now you're just sounding like a particle physicist.

How about getting some STRANGE?


Charming.
 
2014-05-08 11:59:36 PM  

Kittypie070: Not just being a bigot here... But

Let little kitty help you, and gently teach by example.

[i.imgur.com image 708x602]


Sooooo glad i didn't say BUT!

/Not saying I am not an asshole.
 
2014-05-09 12:04:06 AM  

flondrix: sgnilward: I would not take relationship advice from anyone in a hijab. Not just being a bigot here... But people who do are from a moral and religious fringe. On the same note, I wouldn't take said advice from a priest or ANYONE who literally wears their religion.

For what it is worth:  The person in the hijab is not necessarily claiming to be leading a completely sexless and relationshipless life.  The priest is.

Put another way, if the priest has any idea what he's talking about, then he's a hypocrite.


Is there anything that says that priests have to be virgins, I thought they just had to be chaste once they take their vows?
 
2014-05-09 12:10:43 AM  

fusillade762: Others credit abstinence education

In related news: others are idiots.


Anonymous "others" are just a way for lazy reporters to fill space without having to actually work.  Shiat, the article doesn't even bother to say if the "others" are supposed to be researchers or just random idiots off the streets.

Others credit aliens who inserted martian sperm with probes as part of their invasion plan.
Others credit immaculate conception.
Others stuck their fingers in their ears and chanted "LALALALALALALA AMERICA IS NUMBER ONE!  WE'RE NUMBER ONE LALALALALA"
Others pointed out that the US is warmer than many other first world nations, making it a prime destination for storks**.

Look at me, I'm a modern reporter!


**I have no idea if this is true
 
2014-05-09 12:19:57 AM  
""I see them really not connecting to their school," she said. "I see them not connecting to their classmates. I see them being lost in the shuffle of what is high school, what is being a teenager."

She doesn't see them connected. She is clueless how kids connect today. And she really really has no clue how the boys "not connecting" well might be approaching porn addiction which actually is a potential problem with massive availability and high speed internet. Kids who can skype their grandparents at age 2 will find online porn at a fill in the blank age.
 
2014-05-09 12:30:30 AM  

charlesmartel11235: sgnilward: I would not take relationship advice from anyone in a hijab. Not just being a bigot here... But people who do are from a moral and religious fringe. On the same note, I wouldn't take said advice from a priest or ANYONE who literally wears their religion.

You know with 100% certainty that they take things on faith and they are the type of people not prone to questioning dogma (of any sort)

you are literally a bigot. She's teaching a pretty liberal sex ed course far as I can tell. Also a lot of really liberal muslim women that I know have started wearing the hijab again, especially young ones. I think it may be a reaction to people like you.

/though it does confuse me when a lesbian gender and sexuality major wears a hijab


The hijab is not a religous symbol. It is a cultural thing.
 
2014-05-09 12:37:46 AM  

flondrix: sgnilward: DeltaPunch: Donald_McRonald: They don't even mention TOP's sister program, BOTTOM.

Well now you're just sounding like a particle physicist.

How about getting some STRANGE?

Charming.


Hey, I'm down with it.
 
2014-05-09 01:06:16 AM  

DeltaPunch: flondrix: sgnilward: DeltaPunch: Donald_McRonald: They don't even mention TOP's sister program, BOTTOM.

Well now you're just sounding like a particle physicist.

How about getting some STRANGE?

Charming.

Hey, I'm down with it.


Just how many lame flavors of quantum physics puns will you people spin?
 
2014-05-09 01:30:48 AM  

demaL-demaL-yeH: DeltaPunch: flondrix: sgnilward: DeltaPunch: Donald_McRonald: They don't even mention TOP's sister program, BOTTOM.

Well now you're just sounding like a particle physicist.

How about getting some STRANGE?

Charming.

Hey, I'm down with it.

Just how many lame flavors of quantum physics puns will you people spin?


What did you expect from these degenerates?
 
2014-05-09 01:52:48 AM  

Mike_1962: charlesmartel11235: sgnilward: I would not take relationship advice from anyone in a hijab. Not just being a bigot here... But people who do are from a moral and religious fringe. On the same note, I wouldn't take said advice from a priest or ANYONE who literally wears their religion.

You know with 100% certainty that they take things on faith and they are the type of people not prone to questioning dogma (of any sort)

you are literally a bigot. She's teaching a pretty liberal sex ed course far as I can tell. Also a lot of really liberal muslim women that I know have started wearing the hijab again, especially young ones. I think it may be a reaction to people like you.

/though it does confuse me when a lesbian gender and sexuality major wears a hijab

The hijab is not a religous symbol. It is a cultural thing.


Depends on who you talk to.

Many muslims believe it, along with a variety of sharia law, is a religious thing.
 
2014-05-09 01:54:36 AM  

Unknown_Poltroon: Kittypie070: Not just being a bigot here... But

Let little kitty help you, and gently teach by example.

[i.imgur.com image 708x602]


Sooooo glad i didn't say BUT!

/Not saying I am not an asshole.


I am very definitely a COLORful asshole at times.
 
2014-05-09 01:56:11 AM  

spongeboob: flondrix: sgnilward: I would not take relationship advice from anyone in a hijab. Not just being a bigot here... But people who do are from a moral and religious fringe. On the same note, I wouldn't take said advice from a priest or ANYONE who literally wears their religion.

For what it is worth:  The person in the hijab is not necessarily claiming to be leading a completely sexless and relationshipless life.  The priest is.

Put another way, if the priest has any idea what he's talking about, then he's a hypocrite.

Is there anything that says that priests have to be virgins, I thought they just had to be chaste once they take their vows?


There are a great deal of priests who take vows after their spouse dies. There are also priests just like you said who have had much experience before deciding to take vows.
 
2014-05-09 02:52:07 AM  

sgnilward: [successfultrollissuccessful.jpeg]


nbnl.globalwhelming.com
 
2014-05-09 03:27:19 AM  

ace in your face: There are a great deal of priests who take vows after their spouse dies. There are also priests just like you said who have had much experience before deciding to take vows.


The latter is still hypocritical.  "Now that I've had my fun, I've made it my life's work to see to it that no else does.  Oh, and whatever you do, avoid all forms of contraception so as to maximize the suffering for all concerned."

/Glad I'm done with that shiat
 
2014-05-09 05:22:19 AM  

Mike_1962: The hijab is not a religous symbol. It is a cultural thing.


Yeah, back at university I knew quite a few girls that wore hijabs, despite being fairly vocal atheists.


/if you make assumptions about someone you have never met based on their clothing, you are the textbook definition of a bigot, regardless of what that item of clothing is
 
2014-05-09 06:22:07 AM  

Hickory-smoked: sgnilward: Not just being a bigot here... But people who do are from a moral and religious fringe.

People can observe the cultural traditions of their families and not be Fundamentalist extremists.


I'll admit to being suspicious of anyone that rooted in tradition.  I think Good Friday processions are creepy as all hell.  I also think the pledge of allegiance is creepy as all hell.  This isn't creepy as all hell though.

I'd rather take this woman's advice over that of the people from whom I actually had the misfortune of "learning about sex".  I'm sure there's a course or something you have to complete to be certified and all that, but damn the quality of sex education is so bad in this country that I can't believe that guy's actual complaint is what the teacher is wearing...
 
2014-05-09 08:15:45 AM  

charlesmartel11235: sgnilward: I would not take relationship advice from anyone in a hijab. Not just being a bigot here... But people who do are from a moral and religious fringe. On the same note, I wouldn't take said advice from a priest or ANYONE who literally wears their religion.

You know with 100% certainty that they take things on faith and they are the type of people not prone to questioning dogma (of any sort)

you are literally a bigot. She's teaching a pretty liberal sex ed course far as I can tell. Also a lot of really liberal muslim women that I know have started wearing the hijab again, especially young ones. I think it may be a reaction to people like you.

/though it does confuse me when a lesbian gender and sexuality major wears a hijab


Well, he started by saying that he wasn't just being a bigot. My guess he was also going for the idiot route as well.
 
2014-05-09 09:03:18 AM  

xria: Mike_1962: The hijab is not a religous symbol. It is a cultural thing.

Yeah, back at university I knew quite a few girls that wore hijabs, despite being fairly vocal atheists.


/if you make assumptions about someone you have never met based on their clothing, you are the textbook definition of a bigot, regardless of what that item of clothing is


Ironically, it is there to keep their sexuality from shooting out and corrupting men since we are talking sex ed.
 
2014-05-09 09:07:48 AM  
Fact:  women that wear hijabs rarely get sunburned.
 
2014-05-09 09:10:34 AM  

flondrix: ace in your face: There are a great deal of priests who take vows after their spouse dies. There are also priests just like you said who have had much experience before deciding to take vows.

The latter is still hypocritical.  "Now that I've had my fun, I've made it my life's work to see to it that no else does.  Oh, and whatever you do, avoid all forms of contraception so as to maximize the suffering for all concerned."

/Glad I'm done with that shiat


Well yeah if the priest was saying you should never ever have sex, but I think they are more likely to say don't have sex until you are married, not exactly the same thing.

Pretty sure Catholics have no problem with the rhythm method of Birth Control, so they are not against ALL forms of contraception.
 
2014-05-09 09:29:22 AM  

spongeboob: Pretty sure Catholics have no problem with the rhythm method of Birth Control, so they are not against ALL forms of contraception.


They allow the rhythm method because it doesn't work.
 
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