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(CBS News)   Number of police dead from 9/11 illness now greater than those who died on 9/11   (cbsnews.com) divider line 51
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2014-05-08 08:48:34 AM
Still pales in comparison to the people doing the real work that day (firefighters).
 
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2014-05-08 09:12:03 AM

Lsherm: Still pales in comparison to the people doing the real work that day (firefighters).


You're right, it's becoming very difficult for the firefighters to say ahead of the police.
 
2014-05-08 09:15:10 AM

Lsherm: Still pales in comparison to the people doing the real work that day (firefighters).


Which pales in comparison to white collar workers. So?
 
2014-05-08 11:20:11 AM
Repeat?
 
2014-05-08 11:23:51 AM
http://www.fark.com/comments/8251777/More-cops-have-died-due-to-illnes ses-contracted-from-911s-aftermath-than-cops-who-died-in-attack#new"> http://www.fark.com/comments/8251777/More-cops-have-died-due-to-illnes ses-contracted-from-911s-aftermath-than-cops-who-died-in-attack#new
 
2014-05-08 11:40:32 AM
Well then, lesson learned. Don't have a 9/11.
 
2014-05-08 11:41:53 AM
The first thread isn't even off the page yet, cmon
/Mobile
 
2014-05-08 11:42:41 AM
How many people were pulled out of the rubble  alive after 9/11?
 
2014-05-08 11:43:32 AM
Stop greening threads, Rudy.
 
2014-05-08 11:44:11 AM
A second thread has hit Fark Tower Two.
 
2014-05-08 11:44:41 AM
And we're complaining?
 
2014-05-08 11:45:25 AM
sigh...
 
2014-05-08 11:45:33 AM
So change from 911 to 119 like Britain and Japan.

(shrug)
 
2014-05-08 11:47:07 AM
Really having a hard time trying to care what happens to NYPD Gang members.
 
2014-05-08 11:47:31 AM
Yeah, but if we'd put more money towards their health care in a timely fashion, how to we know that some of those police or firefighters weren't illegal immigrants?

Seriously.  That was an argument against passing the Zadroga bill.
 
2014-05-08 11:48:21 AM

kvinesknows: How many people were pulled out of the rubble  alive after 9/11?


Just three that were above ground. The office worker who surfed down the wreckage on a collapsed section of wall. Plus two cops who fell into it during search and rescue later that day.
 
2014-05-08 11:48:36 AM
knock knock
 
2014-05-08 11:48:58 AM
The number of cops claiming disability from 9/11-related injury and illness now higher than the number of cops who were actually at Ground Zero.
 
2014-05-08 11:50:05 AM
I could be wrong, but I think the construction workers who cleared that site spent more time their than anyone else.  How come I don't hear stories about the construction workers dying like flies from WTC connected illnesses?
 
2014-05-08 11:50:17 AM

Decillion: kvinesknows: How many people were pulled out of the rubble  alive after 9/11?

Just three that were above ground. The office worker who surfed down the wreckage on a collapsed section of wall. Plus two cops who fell into it during search and rescue later that day.


so.. just one then?

Perhaps the lesson here is to take the few minutes necessary to evaluate the probability of rescue and determine a proper course of action..

ie.. dont send 10's of 1000s of "rescuers" into harm way when there is nothing left to rescue?
 
2014-05-08 11:51:02 AM

give me doughnuts: The number of cops claiming disability from 9/11-related injury and illness now higher than the number of cops who were actually at Ground Zero.


This.

"First responders who were at ground zero" now outnumber "people who were at woodstock", although both numbers continue to grow rapidly.
 
2014-05-08 11:52:32 AM

www.constantinereport.com

The air is safe. Nothing to see here. Back to work, peons.

 
2014-05-08 11:52:33 AM
Also, I heard somewhere that more cops have died as a result of 9/11 illness than died during 9/11. I can't remember where I've heard this before, but I've heard it more than once now so it must be true. I wish someone would submit an article about how more cops have died as a result of 9/11 illness than died during 9/11. That would be a good topic. It might even take more than one thread to fully discuss it.
 
2014-05-08 11:53:19 AM

Foundling: So change from 911 to 119 like Britain and Japan.

(shrug)

OR
0118 999 881 999 119 725 3
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab8GtuPdrUQ
 
2014-05-08 11:53:42 AM

silo123j: Repeat?


Maybe another one died since yesterday.
 
2014-05-08 11:54:32 AM

Fissile: I could be wrong, but I think the construction workers who cleared that site spent more time their than anyone else.  How come I don't hear stories about the construction workers dying like flies from WTC connected illnesses?


I'd guess one of two things:

1.  The fires and dust were really bad in the first couple of days, releasing who knows what in the way of carcinogens and other toxic chemicals.  By the time the bulk of the construction workers came in, they had industrial respirators, dust abatement plans in place, and weren't dealing with the smoke.  So they may not have been exposed to the particular mix of stuff that's making these guys sick.

2.  They don't have the same news value / PR force behind them to get out the news that they're sick.
 
2014-05-08 11:57:05 AM

SpectroBoy: [www.constantinereport.com image 300x347]The air is safe. Nothing to see here. Back to work, peons.


I hate that vicious coont even more than the current Christie.
 
2014-05-08 11:58:37 AM
Thermite radiation?
 
2014-05-08 12:00:12 PM
After reading that story about the cop slicing the kid's throat from the inside, killing him and doctors more than likely covering it up this morning; I'm having a hard time relating to this story.
 
2014-05-08 12:02:49 PM
great, now everybody is going to be scared every time a little building collapses and there is some smoke.
 
2014-05-08 12:07:20 PM
We should probably invade somebody to honor their memory.
 
2014-05-08 12:08:07 PM

Fissile: I could be wrong, but I think the construction workers who cleared that site spent more time their than anyone else.  How come I don't hear stories about the construction workers dying like flies from WTC connected illnesses?


Cops have a better union. Plus construction workers are used to dying on the job. They sort of expect it sometimes. That's why they leave the keys in their cars.
 
2014-05-08 12:08:48 PM
White bread and donuts kills more cops than 9/11 ever did or will.
 
2014-05-08 12:10:12 PM
This just in: when exposed to massive amounts of dust it's a good idea to use a dust mask. One of the first rules of rescuing people is not to become a casualty yourself.
 
2014-05-08 12:10:43 PM

TheGogmagog: Foundling: So change from 911 to 119 like Britain and Japan.

(shrug)
OR
0118 999 881 999 119 725 3
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab8GtuPdrUQ


How about eight six seven five three oh nine?
 
2014-05-08 12:12:27 PM

SpectroBoy: [www.constantinereport.com image 300x347]The air is safe. Nothing to see here. Back to work, peons.


Yep, that's exactly what she said.
Dubya's mouthpiece at the EPA.
I remember that vividly and knew instantly she was full of all flavors of shiat.
 
2014-05-08 12:14:45 PM

SpectroBoy: give me doughnuts: The number of cops claiming disability from 9/11-related injury and illness now higher than the number of cops who were actually at Ground Zero.

This.

"First responders who were at ground zero" now outnumber "people who were at woodstock", although both numbers continue to grow rapidly.


But you know what?
I went there a month later and the air was still chokingly acrid. Across the river in Brooklyn.
The cancers have only begun to appear in all sorts of people who were nearby.
 
2014-05-08 12:15:11 PM
One dustcloudy day = scores of deaths later, you really believe this? Buildings are imploded all the time the same dust cloud appears and/or lingers during rubble remover yet we don't see this affect, hmmm.
 
2014-05-08 12:16:01 PM
Any reliable epidemiological evidence to support/refute claims that these deaths are due to 9/11  exposure? The JAMA study did not seem to bear that out definitively, published in 2012 (so several years of follow up). There does seem to be a demonstrable rise in respiratory dysfunction, as well as PTSD, but can anyone really know these deaths are from 9/11 exposure?
 
2014-05-08 12:17:08 PM
Clearly the builders of WTC were negligent in their planning.  They (or whoever acquired them) should be sued.
 
2014-05-08 12:26:44 PM

Warthog: Fissile: I could be wrong, but I think the construction workers who cleared that site spent more time their than anyone else.  How come I don't hear stories about the construction workers dying like flies from WTC connected illnesses?

I'd guess one of two things:

1.  The fires and dust were really bad in the first couple of days, releasing who knows what in the way of carcinogens and other toxic chemicals.  By the time the bulk of the construction workers came in, they had industrial respirators, dust abatement plans in place, and weren't dealing with the smoke.  So they may not have been exposed to the particular mix of stuff that's making these guys sick.

2.  They don't have the same news value / PR force behind them to get out the news that they're sick.





'Every effort was made by Mayor Giuliani and his staff to ensure the safety of all workers at Ground Zero.'So read a Giuliani campaign statement in June, responding to a chorus of questions about the mayor's responsibility for the respiratory plague that threatens the health of tens of thousands of workers at the World Trade Center site, apparently already having killed some.

The statement pointed a finger at then-EPA administrator Christine Todd Whitman, issuing a list of the many times that "Whitman assured New Yorkers the air was safe." Instead of also detailing the many times Giuliani echoed Whitman-for example, "the air is safe and acceptable," he said on September 28-the campaign cited several Fire Department "briefings" about "incident action plans" for the use of respirators, suggesting that the city had tried to get responders to protect themselves from the toxins at Ground Zero. The press release did not make a case that any of these "plans" had ever resulted in any real "action"; nor did it dispute the fact that as late as the end of October, only 29 percent of the workers at the site were wearing respirators. Of 5. 'Every effort was made by Mayor Giuliani and his staff to ensure the safety of all workers at Ground Zero.'So read a Giuliani campaign statement in June, responding to a chorus of questions about the mayor's responsibility for the respiratory plague that threatens the health of tens of thousands of workers at the World Trade Center site, apparently already having killed some.
 
2014-05-08 12:38:09 PM
Considering how much fark hates cops, I'm surprised the [SPIFFY] tag wasn't used.
 
2014-05-08 12:57:41 PM

abiigdog: One dustcloudy day = scores of deaths later, you really believe this? Buildings are imploded all the time the same dust cloud appears and/or lingers during rubble remover yet we don't see this affect, hmmm.


The WTC towers were completed in 1973 when asbestos was still widely in use in construction.

When such a building is "imploded" they need to deal with the asbestos first. When it is blown up and collapsed that stuff goes everywhere.

It's almost like your arm-chair second guessing isn't as effective as even a quick google search.
 
2014-05-08 12:57:48 PM
Oh, there was some effort to help these people out, but it kind of got squashed.

Who Voted Against The 9/11 First Responders Bill?

I think it's pretty sad.
 
2014-05-08 12:58:29 PM

maxx2112: Considering how much fark hates cops, I'm surprised the [SPIFFY] tag wasn't used.


It's almost like this this case cops were doing a good thing and the "cop hate" strawman is full of crap.
 
2014-05-08 01:01:20 PM
Thanks, Obama
 
2014-05-08 01:11:11 PM
Quick, somebody make a commemorative coin!
 
2014-05-08 01:12:51 PM

The Irresponsible Captain: Oh, there was some effort to help these people out, but it kind of got squashed.

Who Voted Against The 9/11 First Responders Bill?

I think it's pretty sad.



What. The. fark.  Really, especially as there is no national medical.  Mind you, I have the same reaction to vets coming home and having to fight to get care.
 
2014-05-08 01:14:49 PM

abiigdog: One dustcloudy day = scores of deaths later, you really believe this? Buildings are imploded all the time the same dust cloud appears and/or lingers during rubble remover yet we don't see this affect, hmmm.


Please tell me you are kidding or trolling.

Most people don't realize the fire(s) were burning two months later.  At or around ground zero you were basically smoking the worlds nastiest cigarette 24/7.
 
2014-05-08 01:20:29 PM
Anyone that had been working at a dump all their life is not having anyone cry about them succumbing to cancer 6 weeks from retirement.

Kill the post 9/11 farking hysteria already.
you should have been over this long ago.

/god forbid you see what they did to the boing boing dot net page.
 
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