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(Time)   How Apple's HDTV turned into the Chinese Democracy of tech projects   (time.com) divider line 56
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2014-05-09 04:19:06 PM
It is amazing how a product that was never announced can be considered "vaporware". What about that damn replacement for the Post-It? It has been decades and yet they have still not released it!
 
2014-05-09 06:55:05 PM

Night Night Cream Puff: karmachameleon: They were the first to perfect those products

No. All those products still have problems, that's why they are constantly updated and "made better."

karmachameleon: and actually make them desirable to consumers.

Yes. They are masters of marketing.


lordargent: karmachameleon: They were the first to perfect those products and actually make them desirable to consumers.

One man's "perfect" is another man's "why would you do this and why won't you let me change it?"


Don't be pedants; you know what I mean.  The tablets before the iPad were garbage.  Whether you like it or not, Apple defined how a tablet should look and feel.  Ditto with the iPhone and iPod.  Whatever it is you use today as equivalents for those products, you're using something that was inspired by an Apple product.
 
2014-05-09 08:19:58 PM

karmachameleon: The tablets before the iPad were garbage.


The tablet computer form factor (a 'thin' device that's mostly screen, and no built in keyboard) had been around decades before the iPad. Apple was at the right place to benefit from a bump in technology. They didn't really innovate anything that wasn't obvious to anyone working in the industry at the time, they were simply the first to come out with a device that used the next technological step in the natural evolution of the tablet PC form factor.

One of the reasons that previous tablets sucked was because of the touch screens (stylus computing, ew). We had to get away from the resistive touch screens and adopt capacitive touch screens. Apple didn't invent the capacitive touch screen, so they didn't innovate there either. Plus, we're looking at that old tech in retrospect, at the time, that shiat was considered state of the art.

Apple was just very good at taking current technologies and integrating them together in a single package well enough to appeal to the masses
(But then, IMO, they get stuck making minor useless revisions ... until the next big thing comes along).

As far as the general tablet design goes. All that happened is that tech improved, tablets got thinner and bezels got smaller.

Acorn NewsPad, 1994 - with ginormus beveling
atterer.org

MS Tablet, 2000 - MS was so far ahead of the game, then farked it all up.
static1.businessinsider.com

Fujitsu Stylistic, 2005 - looks more like a Wacom device than a tablet to me :P
www.tabletpc2.com

HP Compaq "tablet", 2006 - That looks like a modern tablet to me.
upload.wikimedia.org

Apple iPad, 2010
upload.wikimedia.org
// something else that strikes me as funny is how manufacturers now are doing hybrids again, remember those old school laptops with hinges :P
 
2014-05-09 08:40:19 PM
^ s/bevel/bezel/

// long week

// also the HP has a keyboard, but the keyboard folds out of the way, so I included it damnit.
 
2014-05-09 08:45:14 PM

lordargent: As far as the general tablet design goes. All that happened is that tech improved, tablets got thinner and bezels got smaller.


I guess at some point, I should stop being amazed at how irrational some people are when the subject turns to Apple.

I guess it's ok for you to be completely wrong.
 
2014-05-09 09:15:16 PM

karmachameleon: lordargent: As far as the general tablet design goes. All that happened is that tech improved, tablets got thinner and bezels got smaller.

I guess at some point, I should stop being amazed at how irrational some people are when the subject turns to Apple.

I guess it's ok for you to be completely wrong.


I post some well reasoned arguments as to why the iPad isn't the huge innovation you think it was (a huge business success, yes, but technologically, just another step up), and I point out several tablets that preceded the iPad and show a progression in design toward what the iPad eventually refined.

And you call me irrational.

// I guess I should have known better when your initial post started with "A clue for the clueless".

// just because you say something doesn't make it true and your faith in your own opinion doesn't magically make dissenting opinions "irrational".
 
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