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(Daily Mail)   The joystick that was used to land the lunar module on some secret soundstage is up for auction   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 32
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2014-05-07 11:50:52 PM  
www.consortiumofgenius.com

Jokes on you subby, it didn't even have one
 
2014-05-08 12:30:34 AM  

DanZero: [www.consortiumofgenius.com image 372x800]

Jokes on you subby, it didn't even have one


*shakes tiny fist*

/that game was maddeningly hard
 
2014-05-08 12:42:50 AM  
Isn't that joystick still property of NASA?

Why was it removed?  Did they think they would need a spare or was it used for something else?
 
2014-05-08 12:43:53 AM  
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-05-08 12:53:13 AM  
files.abovetopsecret.com
 
2014-05-08 03:07:43 AM  
If I had that kind of scratch lying around, I'd buy the thing and retrofit it to play video games with. Because fark yeah shooting n00bs down with hardware that went to the moon.

Also, how the hell do they have hardware from a lunar lander for sale? Those things were burned up on reentry.
 
2014-05-08 04:00:31 AM  

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: If I had that kind of scratch lying around, I'd buy the thing and retrofit it to play video games with. Because fark yeah shooting n00bs down with hardware that went to the moon.

Also, how the hell do they have hardware from a lunar lander for sale? Those things were burned up on reentry.


Oh you and your understanding of a series of well documented events and their outcomes.
 
2014-05-08 05:00:28 AM  
I only want it if it was signed by Stanley Kubrick.
 
2014-05-08 05:08:57 AM  
*creeps in silently with diamond-file sharpened teeth*
 
2014-05-08 05:16:28 AM  
i.dailymail.co.uk

Does it vibrate?
 
2014-05-08 05:20:23 AM  
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2014-05-08 06:16:30 AM  
...The whole stick assembly could be removed from the LM, and it's not all that big, so if 15's crew decided they wanted a memento it's easy enough.

Two problems, though.  First, I'd hate to lay out any cash for something like this only to have NASA send me a letter telling me they want it back, and no, they're not going to reimburse me for it.  Which leads to problem two - 15's crew played a little fast and loose with the rules on taking things with them and got into some trouble afterwards.  I'd be very surprised if NASA didn't land on this like a ton of bricks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_15
 
2014-05-08 06:55:57 AM  
I would have to call BS on the stick thing.  The LM was left to crash on the moon, so it would have taken the joystick with it.  IF (and that is a pretty big if) the astronauts removed the assembly as a souvenir, then the added weight would have skewed their return trajectory, unless they removed accompanying weight from the the Command Module (or were light on the rocks they returned with...).  Then they would have to get that equipment passed inspection of the CM and all of it's cargo after it landed.  Then there is the question of who is selling all this stuff.  If NASA is, then it might be plausible, even with the existence of the joystick.

We need to monitor this story.  I suspect poo poo will be hitting a rotary cooling device over this one.

Kittypie070: *creeps in silently with diamond-file sharpened teeth*


Sorry Kitty, but we are calling in Buzz to handle the "Moon Landing is Fake" believers and trolls.  The man's still got one hell of a left.
 
2014-05-08 07:26:32 AM  

real_headhoncho: I would have to call BS on the stick thing.  The LM was left to crash on the moon, so it would have taken the joystick with it.  IF (and that is a pretty big if) the astronauts removed the assembly as a souvenir, then the added weight would have skewed their return trajectory, unless they removed accompanying weight from the the Command Module (or were light on the rocks they returned with...).  Then they would have to get that equipment passed inspection of the CM and all of it's cargo after it landed.  Then there is the question of who is selling all this stuff.  If NASA is, then it might be plausible, even with the existence of the joystick.


Recently a Hasselblad camera that had supposedly been used on the moon was sold.  Any idea if that was legitimate?

I do find bringing the camera back more plausible than field-stripping the LM, though.
 
2014-05-08 07:33:05 AM  
Moon landing? Joystick? Good luck, Mr. Gorsky!
 
2014-05-08 07:48:23 AM  

Danger Avoid Death: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 620x545]


Yes, the other moon is clearly in the wrong phase, it should be waxing gibbous based on the lander shadow.
 
2014-05-08 07:53:55 AM  
The guy that sits behind me at work watches moon hoax shiat on youtube all the time.  Drives me crazy, listening to the bad science and unfounded theories they spout.
Wish he'd just stick with Dr Phil reruns.
 
2014-05-08 08:16:54 AM  
Can I use it with KSP?
 
2014-05-08 08:24:43 AM  
users.axess.com
 
2014-05-08 08:24:46 AM  

Precision Boobery: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 800x524]


That's the only thing I remember about that movie
 
2014-05-08 08:25:13 AM  
Pass. That dual-DIN connector doesn't conform to JAMMA specs.
 
2014-05-08 08:26:29 AM  
"Nasa-issued lunar comfort glove"

Boy, Nasa planned for every contingency didn't they?
 
2014-05-08 08:44:07 AM  

Burr: Can I use it with KSP?


^ this - have pay pal, will send
 
2014-05-08 09:52:45 AM  
Needs a USB adapter. But, hell yeah, I'd proudly use it to play KSP and Lunar Flight if I had that kind of scratch laying around.

/If you liked Lunar Lander back in the day, you owe it to yourself to play Lunar Flight.
 
2014-05-08 09:59:33 AM  
Ignore moon denial. Sure going to the moon -sounds- hard but that doesn't mean faking it is easier. A film on a soundstage is trivial but that's not where you can call it done.

You're going to have to launch SOMETHING into space. A dead give away that you didnt go to the moon if you never went to space. That something is going to have to transmit "astronauts'" voices to earth. Literally every organization and person on earth that has a handy antenna is going to be listening in on this mind blowing event. The something you sent into space is going to have to actually go to the moon because everyone with two antennas will be triangulating that shiat. The voices are going to have to react to every single possible situation appropriatly without human intervention (if they keep blandly rambling about the lunar approach as the something rockets into deep space never to return you're busted. Oh and all that needs to get done with substantialy less computing power than the shiatiest smartphone on the market today.

Faking the moon landings would not be economically competative with just sending some people there.
 
2014-05-08 10:16:51 AM  
Maybe in 50 years from today someone can auction off the joystick NASA engineers used to play KSP.

// because NASA "ain't" going anywhere in the meantime.
 
2014-05-08 10:31:33 AM  

AtlanticCoast63: I'd be very surprised if NASA didn't land on this like a ton of bricks.


It's possible - they did have a couple of items removed from last year's auction.

Burr: Can I use it with KSP?


You need an adapter.
 
2014-05-08 12:13:08 PM  

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: Also, how the hell do they have hardware from a lunar lander for sale? Those things were burned up on reentry.


I'm guessing the Daily Fail doesn't know the difference between the Command Module and the Lunar Module.  That's pretty much the most likely answer, unless the Apollo astronauts decided to save stuff from the LM for posterity.
 
2014-05-08 12:17:01 PM  

real_headhoncho: IF (and that is a pretty big if) the astronauts removed the assembly as a souvenir, then the added weight would have skewed their return trajectory, unless they removed accompanying weight from the the Command Module (or were light on the rocks they returned with...).


Seriously? They were bringing back a shaitload of moon rocks, and the reentry calculations were done with that in mind. One more little thing wouldn't make any difference. This is also not a big if, it's a known quantity. One of the astronauts did take the thing out as a souvenir (really smart thinking IMO- that would be a damn cool thing to have)- one Commander Dave Scott, the guy who used it, and he wrote a two page letter of authenticity for this auction. It was in his possession until now, so he'd be the one selling it. I suspect most of the other stuff is coming from his personal collection as well.

I just wish I could afford some of this stuff.
 
2014-05-08 12:20:28 PM  

HMS_Blinkin: Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: Also, how the hell do they have hardware from a lunar lander for sale? Those things were burned up on reentry.

I'm guessing the Daily Fail doesn't know the difference between the Command Module and the Lunar Module.  That's pretty much the most likely answer, unless the Apollo astronauts decided to save stuff from the LM for posterity.


*Headdesk*

That's exactly what they did. Or at least, exactly what one of them did. Dave Scott, commander of Apollo 15 and pilot of the LM, took the LM joystick he used to land the LM on the moon out as a personal souvenir. It has been in his possession ever since then. You'll also get a signed letter from him with the purchase, which sounds like it describes the details of each phase of flight where it was used.

\Reading comprehension people, it's a thing.
\\Don't just look at the pretty photos.
 
2014-05-08 12:24:17 PM  

HMS_Blinkin: I'm guessing the Daily Fail doesn't know the difference between the Command Module and the Lunar Module.


Here's the item's page on the auction site. "Flown lunar module rotational hand controller, used by Dave Scott and flown to the lunar surface on board Apollo 15's Lunar Module Falcon". They also have a Crewman Optical Alignment Sight from that mission.
 
2014-05-08 04:39:25 PM  

real_headhoncho: I would have to call BS on the stick thing.  The LM was left to crash on the moon, so it would have taken the joystick with it.  IF (and that is a pretty big if) the astronauts removed the assembly as a souvenir, then the added weight would have skewed their return trajectory, unless they removed accompanying weight from the the Command Module (or were light on the rocks they returned with...).  Then they would have to get that equipment passed inspection of the CM and all of it's cargo after it landed.  Then there is the question of who is selling all this stuff.  If NASA is, then it might be plausible, even with the existence of the joystick


I seriously doubt they were so light on fuel that they couldn't have corrected the return trajectory for a couple pounds of souvenirs. If things were that tight, they'd have had zero margin for error in every single maneuver performed and we'd have had a lot more dead astronauts in the Apollo program. (Remember, Apollo 13 made it home while still lugging around a complete LEM)

The bigger question to me is could the hardware have been removed from the LEM using the tools the astronauts had on hand, and in the time they had available?

Anyway, this is probably going to get squashed by the US government using some excuse about the "common heritage of mankind". Personally I feel like if someone decided to save something NASA was going to discard into the depths of space never to be seen again, it's finders-keepers.
 
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