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2014-05-07 09:07:51 PM

mark12A: I am a complete Linux -n00b-.

Can anybody suggest a website that would lead me through the steps of wiping an old Windows XP machine and loading up Linux, configuring it and loading up a web browser/office software package? I'd really like to play with Linux, get the fark away from all the MSBS...


Google "Linux User Group" with the name of your city. If you're near a large metro area there should be one. Get in contact with them. The user groups I've interacted with have been quite good at welcoming new users to the fold.

Linux Mint has a really good install routine; simple and easy to follow. I would have to say avoid Fedora for the opposite reason. Part of their install routine is bizarrely complicated.
 
2014-05-07 09:24:59 PM

HairBolus: Before anybody gets confused, the drones will not be running Linux. They run some Real Time Operating System.


I wouldn't be so sure about that. The Linux kernel is effectively a real-time OS now, or at least it is something like 99.99% of the time, particularly if you use the RT_PREEMPT patches.

I admit I'm not a part of the industry and I don't really know what they're thinking as far as Linux for embedded platforms, but a lot of researchers are using Linux more and more because the traditional RTOSes aren't necessarily keeping up with the demands of applications like autonomous vehicles and autonomous drones- these are systems that require a lot of interoperability, and they require the ability to handle lots of data via multiprocessing or parallelism. Those are both things that Linux does naturally, but that traditional RTOSes don't.

There might be some small subset of the real-time code that runs with the 100% real-time guarantee, but 99% of these systems are higher level decision making, data processing, mission planning, etc. That stuff is theoretically real-time, but usually happens happens on the order of tenths of a second or longer. That's a virtual eternity compared to some traditional real-time regimes.
 
2014-05-07 10:00:12 PM

DesertEagle: Hence, ElementaryOS.

All the awesome of Ubuntu, none of the bloat. Best thing ever: it's the only "distro" I've come across that plays Netflix by just installing pipelight and a user agent add-on for Firefox (no, not even Linux Mint let me)


Huh. I can't help but wonder about the longevity of this idea. Low footprint? Lightweight UI to enable more processing power to applications? This is absurd!

It does look interesting. The UI reminds me of gOS.
 
2014-05-07 11:25:48 PM

Your Hind Brain: Unscratchable_Itch: dentalhilljack: mark12A: I am a complete Linux -n00b-.

Can anybody suggest a website that would lead me through the steps of wiping an old Windows XP machine and loading up Linux, configuring it and loading up a web browser/office software package? I'd really like to play with Linux, get the fark away from all the MSBS...

I'm on an old XP machine, and instead of Ubuntu I went with Xubuntu.  It's a lighter weight interface.

Hey, dentalhilljack:

Do you think Xubuntu would run OK on this old thingy: http://www.amazon.com/900HA-8-9-Inch-Netbook-Processor-Storage/dp/B00 1 GIPSAM/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

Please don't ask me why I bought it. I'd just hate to throw it away if it's still useable.

I checked out the Xubuntu specs and it looks like it will - I have Ubuntu on it now but if Xubuntu has a lighter interface so much the better, and I'd like the advice of someone who is using it.

Thanks in advance.

It will work just fine. I've had so many Linux distros installed on it that the drive probably looks live the thumb of a worn out glove...or maybe a busted condom with syph and Tobasco.


Thanks to all for the feedback.
 
2014-05-07 11:31:20 PM
Be a man and install Slackware 2.0 from floppies.
 
2014-05-08 07:48:44 AM
gingerjet
2014-05-07 06:58:46 PM

OnlyM3: Download SUSE. Burn ISO to DVD. Reboot and it will all be installed and set up for you.

SUSE still exists?

It's #6 on distrowatch so it's not exactly a secret. It's fine if you don't care for it, I have no interest in distro-derp, but you're not helping your argument by announcing you're ignorant about linux.
 
2014-05-08 09:00:17 AM

Unscratchable_Itch: Your Hind Brain: Unscratchable_Itch: dentalhilljack: mark12A: I am a complete Linux -n00b-.

Can anybody suggest a website that would lead me through the steps of wiping an old Windows XP machine and loading up Linux, configuring it and loading up a web browser/office software package? I'd really like to play with Linux, get the fark away from all the MSBS...

I'm on an old XP machine, and instead of Ubuntu I went with Xubuntu.  It's a lighter weight interface.

Hey, dentalhilljack:

Do you think Xubuntu would run OK on this old thingy: http://www.amazon.com/900HA-8-9-Inch-Netbook-Processor-Storage/dp/B00 1 GIPSAM/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

Please don't ask me why I bought it. I'd just hate to throw it away if it's still useable.

I checked out the Xubuntu specs and it looks like it will - I have Ubuntu on it now but if Xubuntu has a lighter interface so much the better, and I'd like the advice of someone who is using it.

Thanks in advance.

It will work just fine. I've had so many Linux distros installed on it that the drive probably looks live the thumb of a worn out glove...or maybe a busted condom with syph and Tobasco.

Thanks to all for the feedback.


I agree with them that X should run fine. Theres also a more bare bones variant called Lubuntu, but I didnt like it and wouldn't run it unless absolutely necessary. It was too-stripped down for my taste.
 
2014-05-08 10:06:27 AM

treesloth: DesertEagle: Unfortunately, yes. I have to deal with it every day at work, thinking obsenities about my boss for chosing it over Debian or an Ubuntu flavor.

WTF DO YOU MEAN TRAYER CAN'T BE INSTALLED!? FFS I HATE SUSE. I'm glad I left it TEN YEARS AGO.

We must work at the same place...


Here at work, sipping my coffee... I just remembered I actually abandoned SuSE around 2002-2003, so make that OVER TEN YEARS AGO. GOD I HATE THIS DISTRO >_<
 
2014-05-08 11:43:30 AM

DesertEagle: BumpInTheNight: mark12A: I am a complete Linux -n00b-.

Can anybody suggest a website that would lead me through the steps of wiping an old Windows XP machine and loading up Linux, configuring it and loading up a web browser/office software package? I'd really like to play with Linux, get the fark away from all the MSBS...

Without trying to start a holy war I can suggest visit centos's and ubuntu's websites and grabbing their live ISOs (burnable bootable live DVDs that let you try it out without installing it), see which flavour works and if you really like it there's a guided install method right there.  That covers two of the biggest ones.

/personal opinion:  Ubuntu has made some bad decisions with the interface, its very metro as of late.

This.

Hence, ElementaryOS.

All the awesome of Ubuntu, none of the bloat. Best thing ever: it's the only "distro" I've come across that plays Netflix by just installing pipelight and a user agent add-on for Firefox (no, not even Linux Mint let me)

If you need something even MORE barebones, I suggest Crunchbang. It runs on my T1000


Let me also recommend Crunchbang, but with the proviso that if you're a programmer you'll probably get
a lot more use out of it because the Openbox window manager is extremely minimalist.  It does run very
well on down market hardware, however:  my beater box/secondary computer was an old Dell GX260
(Pentium 4, single core) for over a year and it was great for word processing and as a general web
surfing machine.

Personally, though, I'd send a Linux newbie to Mint, but the mainline edition of Mint is basically Ubuntu
with Cinnamon substituted for Unity.
 
2014-05-08 11:50:13 AM

Unscratchable_Itch: dentalhilljack: mark12A: I am a complete Linux -n00b-.

Can anybody suggest a website that would lead me through the steps of wiping an old Windows XP machine and loading up Linux, configuring it and loading up a web browser/office software package? I'd really like to play with Linux, get the fark away from all the MSBS...

I'm on an old XP machine, and instead of Ubuntu I went with Xubuntu.  It's a lighter weight interface.

Hey, dentalhilljack:

Do you think Xubuntu would run OK on this old thingy: http://www.amazon.com/900HA-8-9-Inch-Netbook-Processor-Storage/dp/B00 1 GIPSAM/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

Please don't ask me why I bought it. I'd just hate to throw it away if it's still useable.

I checked out the Xubuntu specs and it looks like it will - I have Ubuntu on it now but if Xubuntu has a lighter interface so much the better, and I'd like the advice of someone who is using it.

Thanks in advance.


As I recall, Asus used to sell Eee's with the Xandros distribution as an option, but it looks like that's been
discontinued.

Xubuntu should work, as would even Linux Mint, but I'd go with Crunchbang given the limitations of
the CPU and screensize.
 
2014-05-08 01:49:18 PM
Let me get this straight... They want to run a bunch of wirelessly controlled drones... on Linux. Oh, you're serious? Let me laugh even harder.

/Anyone who doesn't get it hasn't tried to get Realtek drivers to work on Linux.
//Feck you, Linux.
 
2014-05-08 02:12:05 PM

manbart: Plus, why use a propriety OS like Solaris when you can use free software like Linux that operates very similarly but has a much larger pool of developers, system administrators and support resources?


Because that worked so well for OpenSSL?
 
2014-05-08 02:49:46 PM

Priapetic: manbart: Plus, why use a propriety OS like Solaris when you can use free software like Linux that operates very similarly but has a much larger pool of developers, system administrators and support resources?

Because that worked so well for OpenSSL?


Tech giants, chastened by Heartbleed, finally agree to fund OpenSSL
IBM, Intel, Microsoft, Facebook, Google, and others pledge millions to open source.

Oh how they must be suffering.

/lets do closed source instead.  Not like it would have to patch software that's been out since 2001
 
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