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(Telegraph)   Crappy job prospects? Lousy love life? Try being more of a psychopath. Chicks dig that   (telegraph.co.uk) divider line 43
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2014-05-07 08:15:19 AM
It's true.
 
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2014-05-07 08:50:45 AM
It certainly helps if you are in business management or finance.
 
2014-05-07 09:35:39 AM
Yes, self-confidence, lack of empathy, and ruthlessness are definitely traits of a psychopath/sociopath but not exclusively.  But I guess just stating that isn't as cool as "be like a psychopath".  Psychopaths are also masters at manipulation, talking their way out of anything, false sincerity, and working just about any situation to their advantage that leaves them blame free if anything goes wrong.  A great many people do indeed become successful with these traits but we need less of them and not more.
 
2014-05-07 11:10:25 AM

doglover: It's true.


That's what your mom said after I cleaned out her accounts.
 
2014-05-07 11:12:12 AM
It's totally true
 
2014-05-07 11:15:29 AM
Does it work if you are a Pycho-pathic chick?
 
2014-05-07 11:16:12 AM
No matter how old I get, I'm always internally shocked every time I see how cold and manipulative "the gentler sex" is.
Probably why I've wound up preferring men.
 
2014-05-07 11:20:47 AM
Girls with severe arrested development like "bad boys". They can't help it. If they ever grow up and become women, they get over it. Unfortunately, most girls never grow up.
 
2014-05-07 11:34:45 AM

UberDave: Yes, self-confidence, lack of empathy, and ruthlessness are definitely traits of a psychopath/sociopath but not exclusively.  But I guess just stating that isn't as cool as "be like a psychopath".


Sometimes that's the only way people get it. Someone who's insecure will laugh at you if you tell them to "be more confident," because that feels impossible to them. I had a roommate years ago who was always moaning about how girls only liked assholes and he couldn't get laid. I said "So just pretend you're an asshole, and then don't be one," mostly to shut him up.

20 years later, dude gets laid more than anyone else I know. Lives with his laid-back girlfriend, who screens other women for him to weed out the psychos, and never thinks twice about rejection because he knows if one chick turns him down, he's got 10 more numbers to booty-call that night.

/I'll stick with my wife. She won't screen other women for me, but she lets me nail her in the pooper so it's all good.
 
2014-05-07 11:35:54 AM
70% on the psychopath scale. At least it's a passing grade.
 
2014-05-07 11:41:37 AM
Sweeping generalizations, irrational projection, even a sexual preference driven by misogyny.  This thread is off to an excellent fark start!  I'll be back, the bulldozer of popcorn just pulled up.
 
2014-05-07 11:44:14 AM

VivianVivisect: Does it work if you are a Pycho-pathic chick?


Yes.

"We know that roughly 16% of incarcerated women are psychopaths, while rates among men are much higher. Clearly, a higher proportion of female psychopaths are functional, perhaps even quite successful, members of society. "
 
2014-05-07 11:45:02 AM

VivianVivisect: Does it work if you are a Pycho-pathic chick?


My ex doesn't seem to have an issue finding guys, because she's pretty extroverted, manipulative (tells you what you want to hear), fairly intelligent, fun to be around, and pretty. She just got out of a year long relationship, and now has a boyfriend that she's known for less than a month, probably more like just a few weeks if you just count the first meeting and not the emails/texts.

Yet she's also kind of delusional, a liar, mean spirited, and has a really bad temper, and suicidal behavior. I would love to see an actual honest Psycopath Score for her.
 
2014-05-07 11:53:03 AM

BumpInTheNight: Sweeping generalizations, irrational projection, even a sexual preference driven by misogyny.  This thread is off to an excellent fark start!  I'll be back, the bulldozer of popcorn just pulled up.


Jesus was an extraterrestrial.
 
2014-05-07 11:53:27 AM
nah, nobody likes a true psychopath or true psychopathic behavior... they just like the idea of being sorta psychopathic when it suits them

i've run into true psychopaths, the only thing 99% of people think about them is that they wish they would jump off a cliff
 
2014-05-07 11:54:20 AM

Silly_Sot: Unfortunately, most girls never grow up.


That is a matter of perspective.
 
2014-05-07 12:10:12 PM

Ancient Chinese Secret Agent Man: UberDave: Yes, self-confidence, lack of empathy, and ruthlessness are definitely traits of a psychopath/sociopath but not exclusively.  But I guess just stating that isn't as cool as "be like a psychopath".

Sometimes that's the only way people get it. Someone who's insecure will laugh at you if you tell them to "be more confident," because that feels impossible to them. I had a roommate years ago who was always moaning about how girls only liked assholes and he couldn't get laid. I said "So just pretend you're an asshole, and then don't be one," mostly to shut him up.

20 years later, dude gets laid more than anyone else I know. Lives with his laid-back girlfriend, who screens other women for him to weed out the psychos, and never thinks twice about rejection because he knows if one chick turns him down, he's got 10 more numbers to booty-call that night.



Good points.  But to be accurate, in your 30s and 40s, as a single guy it's not too difficult to attract similarly aged women.  As long as you have a steady job, don't look like a diseased toad, and an highly extreme personality (one way or the other), you're good.  A psycho-screener is a huge help...
 
2014-05-07 12:15:46 PM

AdamK: nah, nobody likes a true psychopath or true psychopathic behavior... they just like the idea of being sorta psychopathic when it suits them

i've run into true psychopaths, the only thing 99% of people think about them is that they wish they would jump off a cliff


I don't think of myself as a full on psychopath, and I'm not even sure I've ever personally known anyone that I would describe that way (although certain infamous people probably are) but I have some strong personality traits that might suggest that. However, I am neither particularly proud or uncomfortable with these traits on a general basis. There are times when I feel weird that I don't have much empathy, and times when I'm glad to have the ability to manipulate others. I am what I am, and the best I can do is acknowledge that and work with it in order to best function within society. Also, it seems to me that successful psychopaths (whatever that means to them) have very little trouble finding people that want to be a part of that success.
 
2014-05-07 12:31:41 PM
There are two type of people in the world. Psychopaths and those who wish they had the guts and skills to be psychopaths.
 
2014-05-07 01:03:37 PM

mr lawson: There are two type of people in the world. Psychopaths and those who wish they had the guts and skills to be psychopaths.


It's not a 'skill' so much as it is a personality disorder.
 
2014-05-07 01:15:05 PM

UberDave: Ancient Chinese Secret Agent Man: UberDave: Yes, self-confidence, lack of empathy, and ruthlessness are definitely traits of a psychopath/sociopath but not exclusively.  But I guess just stating that isn't as cool as "be like a psychopath".

Sometimes that's the only way people get it. Someone who's insecure will laugh at you if you tell them to "be more confident," because that feels impossible to them. I had a roommate years ago who was always moaning about how girls only liked assholes and he couldn't get laid. I said "So just pretend you're an asshole, and then don't be one," mostly to shut him up.

20 years later, dude gets laid more than anyone else I know. Lives with his laid-back girlfriend, who screens other women for him to weed out the psychos, and never thinks twice about rejection because he knows if one chick turns him down, he's got 10 more numbers to booty-call that night.


Good points.  But to be accurate, in your 30s and 40s, as a single guy it's not too difficult to attract similarly aged women.  As long as you have a steady job, don't look like a diseased toad, and an highly extreme personality (one way or the other), you're good.  A psycho-screener is a huge help...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ohbv6haI1aQ - Louis CK - "This is as good as it gets".
 
2014-05-07 01:15:05 PM

Capo Del Bandito: It's not a 'skill' so much as it is a personality disorder.


a disorder holds you back, a skill get you ahead.
 
2014-05-07 01:17:17 PM
Does that mean I got to start listening to Huey Lewis?? :(
 
2014-05-07 01:18:54 PM

mr lawson: Capo Del Bandito: It's not a 'skill' so much as it is a personality disorder.

a disorder holds you back, a skill get you ahead.


For a psychopath, I think intelligence is the strongest indicator of success. That and at least some awareness of what you are. So perhaps these traits are potential disorders, but if you are able to work them to your advantage and are content with your life, then some but not all of the traits are skills. Manipulation is definitely a skill, but lack of empathy, white it may have potential benefits, would not be a skill, per se.
 
2014-05-07 01:25:33 PM
as a Public Defender I can attest that most psychopaths are not terribly successful in life.
 
2014-05-07 01:32:16 PM
Shut up, do what I tell you, I'm not interested; these are just some of the things you'll be hearing if you answer this ad. I'm an idiot and I don't care about anyone but myself. P.S. No dogs!
 
2014-05-07 01:42:10 PM

eynonmcwanker: as a Public Defender I can attest that most psychopaths are not terribly successful in life.


Flip it.

Many people that are THAT unsuccessful in life where they need a lawyer and have a Public Defender for a lawyer* are psychopaths.  It's like saying "Every black person is a murderer" vs. "A disproportionate percentage of murderers are black to the point where the correlation between black people and murder rates is .9 ("Indeed, the race/crime correlation so substantially exceeds the poverty/crime relationship that much of the latter may simply be a statistical artifact due to most urban blacks being poor."), but 99986/100000 black people didn't murder anyone last year vs. 99998 whites".

In return, pretty much every billionaire ever is ALSO a psychopath.  Big U-shaped distribution there.

* No offense.  But if they were successful AND farked up legally, they'd have their own lawyers.
 
2014-05-07 02:12:44 PM

Wasilla Hillbilly: mr lawson: Capo Del Bandito: It's not a 'skill' so much as it is a personality disorder.

a disorder holds you back, a skill get you ahead.

For a psychopath, I think intelligence is the strongest indicator of success. That and at least some awareness of what you are. So perhaps these traits are potential disorders, but if you are able to work them to your advantage and are content with your life, then some but not all of the traits are skills. Manipulation is definitely a skill, but lack of empathy, white it may have potential benefits, would not be a skill, per se.


But what if you're more like the character Gregory House? I've a pretty marked lack of empathy for people, but I also find their problems to be like puzzles. So ultimately I want to help people by means of social engineering, but the motivation isn't very altruistic ;-)
 
2014-05-07 02:31:33 PM

Bazzlex001: Wasilla Hillbilly: mr lawson: Capo Del Bandito: It's not a 'skill' so much as it is a personality disorder.

a disorder holds you back, a skill get you ahead.

For a psychopath, I think intelligence is the strongest indicator of success. That and at least some awareness of what you are. So perhaps these traits are potential disorders, but if you are able to work them to your advantage and are content with your life, then some but not all of the traits are skills. Manipulation is definitely a skill, but lack of empathy, white it may have potential benefits, would not be a skill, per se.

But what if you're more like the character Gregory House? I've a pretty marked lack of empathy for people, but I also find their problems to be like puzzles. So ultimately I want to help people by means of social engineering, but the motivation isn't very altruistic ;-)


This reminds me of the idea of a philanthropist who is motivated by the publicity and approval of doing so rather than really caring about the people being helped. It can be complicated, but it's all a spectrum. We may not all be psychopaths, but I think we can all see potential psychopathic traits in our own behaviors at times.

I, too, struggle with a lack of empathy towards people, but watching animals suffer sometimes effects me strongly (although a quick death generally does not). In my case, I probably could have made a decent doctor, but maybe not a good veterinarian, as I suspect too much empathy would make the job much more stressful.
 
2014-05-07 03:07:45 PM

UberDave: Yes, self-confidence, lack of empathy, and ruthlessness are definitely traits of a psychopath/sociopath but not exclusively.  But I guess just stating that isn't as cool as "be like a psychopath".  Psychopaths are also masters at manipulation, talking their way out of anything, false sincerity, and working just about any situation to their advantage that leaves them blame free if anything goes wrong.  A great many people do indeed become successful with these traits but we need less of them and not more.


No, we need more of them but put them in a situation where the best for themselves is to do the best for society as a whole.

Just because someone doesn`t care about other people much does not mean that they are hannibal lector. If you are dumb then maybe you`ll be violent and get locked up, maybe not. If you are smart you might be a good politician, CEO, lawyer, surgeon, even a psychologist. Or you might be harold shipman.
 
2014-05-07 03:13:42 PM

mr lawson: There are two type of people in the world. Psychopaths and those who wish they had the guts and skills to be psychopaths.


I would say there are the psychopaths and the worthless scum that crawl on the surface of the ground like worms and deserve to be squashed underfoot as I walk my chosen path on this earth.

They are not even good for food.

oops. Did I say that out loud?
 
2014-05-07 03:17:27 PM
Here's what I'm getting out of this: if you're bad at something, keep doing that thing until you stop being bad at it.
 
2014-05-07 04:03:44 PM
Intelligent psychopaths are successful.  You can't actually replicate that ability to rapidly construct an appropriate emotional facade to mimic empathy when you're not naturally clever.  But most psychopaths are pathetic losers, who are only able to control their life at all through violent behavior.

Those people wind up addicted to drugs or alcohol, often homeless, often criminal.

Intelligent non-psychopaths do all the real work for society, but usually tend to do pretty well for themselves.
 
2014-05-07 05:55:49 PM

dready zim: UberDave: Yes, self-confidence, lack of empathy, and ruthlessness are definitely traits of a psychopath/sociopath but not exclusively.  But I guess just stating that isn't as cool as "be like a psychopath".  Psychopaths are also masters at manipulation, talking their way out of anything, false sincerity, and working just about any situation to their advantage that leaves them blame free if anything goes wrong.  A great many people do indeed become successful with these traits but we need less of them and not more.

No, we need more of them but put them in a situation where the best for themselves is to do the best for society as a whole.

Just because someone doesn`t care about other people much does not mean that they are hannibal lector. If you are dumb then maybe you`ll be violent and get locked up, maybe not. If you are smart you might be a good politician, CEO, lawyer, surgeon, even a psychologist. Or you might be harold shipman.



I'm not at all suggesting "Hannibal Lector".  Being interested in the subject I've read "Without Conscience" on the suggestion of another Farker.  Maybe I should have used the word "sociopath" exclusively as generally many people consider a psychopath to be sociopaths who crossed the line into violent crime (essentially).

I've known highly suspected sociopaths who are not very smart and even they are still able to "hook" relatively intelligent people.  And it is amazing that in all their stupidity, they are almost always keenly aware of who they can manipulate or mislead for benefit with the greatest ease.  Their stupidity comes into play when their sociopathy dominates and they "write off" or underestimate those who they deemed "uncontrollable" as less clever than themselves.  But that's not surprising as *all* psychopaths/sociopaths think they are more clever than any other person.
 
2014-05-07 06:02:07 PM
Heh, I have the opposite problem -- people just assume I lie, because my body language is off. I end up going to job interviews with a laptop with my youtube videos preloaded.
 
2014-05-07 06:30:12 PM
Sanity is a one trick pony, all it gives you is logical thought. But when you are good and crazy, with restraint s of decency behind you, who hook hook, the sky's the limit
 
2014-05-07 06:53:09 PM
Sociopath not psychopath!
 
2014-05-07 07:36:02 PM
I think someone with sociopathic traits is not a sociopath.

A sociopath is someone who can hurt other people without considering their pain at all.

Asserting yourself and being less empathetic is not the same thing.
 
2014-05-08 08:32:11 AM
My sis has many of these traits. I never realized how far she can go because we were always pretty close but once a clique of women slighted her and she just went off. Over the next two years she hunted them down, destroying their relationships and friendships by pretty much every mean possible. I was impressed and shocked with her thoroughness heh.

Of course, hell hath no fury... so maybe not a pyschopath
 
2014-05-08 08:52:57 AM
Obvious tag cut up with a chainsaw for not liking Huey Lewis.
 
2014-05-08 02:17:58 PM
So basically if I want success I need to stop having a soul. Got it.
 
2014-05-08 08:21:12 PM

mr lawson: There are two type of people in the world. Psychopaths and those who wish they had the guts and skills to be psychopaths.


It has nothing to do with guts or skills. Full blown psychopaths are missing something that most humans have - a conscience.
 
2014-05-08 08:23:50 PM

Wasilla Hillbilly: mr lawson: Capo Del Bandito: It's not a 'skill' so much as it is a personality disorder.

a disorder holds you back, a skill get you ahead.

For a psychopath, I think intelligence is the strongest indicator of success. That and at least some awareness of what you are. So perhaps these traits are potential disorders, but if you are able to work them to your advantage and are content with your life, then some but not all of the traits are skills. Manipulation is definitely a skill, but lack of empathy, white it may have potential benefits, would not be a skill, per se.


Highly intelligent psychopaths rise to the top of their chosen careers. Intelligence combined with a total lack of conscience can get you a long way.

The majority of psychopaths are not highly intelligent and these are the examples that populate maximum security prisons.
 
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