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(YouTube)   Bored military engineers: "What if we just added a bunch of small helicopter rotors to a truck?"   (youtube.com ) divider line
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2014-05-07 02:08:31 PM  
Because why the hell not?!
 
2014-05-07 02:21:21 PM  
I call shenanigans. The rotors weren't even spinning while that thing was "hovering" in midair!
 
2014-05-07 02:22:48 PM  
 
2014-05-07 02:31:25 PM  
Looks like it'd make for a fun RC toy (so long as it was gyro stabilized)!
 
2014-05-07 02:44:35 PM  
Jack of all trades is master of none.
 
2014-05-07 02:45:44 PM  
Still no frickin sharks with frickin' laser beams attached to their heads!
 
2014-05-07 02:49:40 PM  
Minus the necessary exploding, that's a very Kerbal design.
 
2014-05-07 02:59:03 PM  
Minus the necessary exploding, that's a very Kerbal design.


Moar struts, plz.....
 
2014-05-07 03:07:08 PM  
I guess it is called a "transformer" because the rotors can fold in and out.

From http://www.armyrecognition.com/weapons_defence_industry_military_tech n ology_uk/at_black_knight_transformer_first_cargo_truck_helicopter_vtol _vertical_takeoff_and_landing_aircraft_.html

www.armyrecognition.com

Advanced Tactics Inc. touts their rotor technology as being direct drive where everything is controlled by engine speed and thus not needing the mechanical complexity and cost of transmissions and the articulated rotor system that stabilizes and controls a conventional helicopter.

They say deliverable models will have combustion engines while many of their tests have used electric engines. I couldn't find what engines their hover demo used.

I've heard that it is very hard to rapidly control the speed of combustion engines (which is trivial for electric ones) and I wonder if they have really solved this problem.
 
2014-05-07 03:13:01 PM  

Tr0mBoNe: Jack of all trades is master of none.


Not really.  That implies it does several things well, just not nearly as well as something designed specifically for a given task.

This thing sucks no matter what it's doing.
 
2014-05-07 03:23:25 PM  
If it's autonomous, why was there a guy at the controls during the drive by?

Also, too slow, needs moar giddyup rolling down the road.

/ex marine core
 
2014-05-07 03:30:45 PM  

HairBolus: very hard to rapidly control the speed of combustion engines


Probably expensive too.  Not impossible:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XR7OpM2Ufk
 
2014-05-07 03:33:15 PM  

firemanbuck: If it's autonomous, why was there a guy at the controls during the drive by?

Also, too slow, needs moar giddyup rolling down the road.

/ex marine core


Semper Fudge
 
2014-05-07 03:40:56 PM  
Just what is needed to solve some of the logistics of invading Russia in Autumn: A truck that won't get stuck in the mud.
 
2014-05-07 03:55:28 PM  
Cool video and concept...tons of civilian apps.


...like the music, too.
 
2014-05-07 04:01:06 PM  
This is a cool concept, but would take years to work the bugs out.  Look at the problems the Osprey had.
 
2014-05-07 04:29:55 PM  
An unarmored flying lunch box with 8 individual points of critical failure, that can't autorotate? What's not to love?
 
2014-05-07 04:40:35 PM  

LoneVVolf: 8 individual points of critical failure,


Isn't that called redundancy?
 
2014-05-07 04:51:11 PM  
Next step is the Helicarrier, right?
 
2014-05-07 04:57:30 PM  

LoneVVolf: An unarmored flying lunch box with 8 individual points of critical failure, that can't autorotate? What's not to love?


I'd love to see that thing deal with 2 rotors out on a side and see how it fares.
I'm not engineer, but I'd guess "not very well"
 
2014-05-07 05:13:32 PM  
I'd love to see that thing deal with 2 rotors out on a side and see how it fares.
I'm not engineer, but I'd guess "not very well"


Ah, put some ballistic parachute pods on it, some airbags for the bottom, and push the button, Frank, if any of the engines go to poo....

/engineer
//pilot
///apathetic
 
2014-05-07 05:20:24 PM  
Sure, if "bored military engineers" actually means blood sucking crooks that want to suck the sweet bottomless tits of the federal defense budget.
 
2014-05-07 05:23:09 PM  
That vehicle looks about as useful as a screen door on a submarine.
 
2014-05-07 05:23:43 PM  

firemanbuck: If it's autonomous, why was there a guy at the controls during the drive by?

Also, too slow, needs moar giddyup rolling down the road.

/ex marine core


Slow -- when unloaded. I doubt they'd want to show us how it performs after someone loads it up with a cinder block.
 
2014-05-07 05:37:45 PM  

HairBolus: I've heard that it is very hard to rapidly control the speed of combustion engines (which is trivial for electric ones) and I wonder if they have really solved this problem.


My guess would be "why not both?"

Four in the middle as combustion engines for lift and the four outer ones electric for maneuverability.
 
2014-05-07 06:35:15 PM  
Hummerbird?
 
2014-05-07 06:37:22 PM  

hinten: Sure, if "bored military engineers" actually means blood sucking crooks that want to suck the sweet bottomless tits of the federal defense budget.


This. Yet another "proof of concept" meant to sucker a contract. Here's a thought - instead of spending a billion dollars on exploring this option, how about we drop that billion on repairing crumbling bridges across the country, or using government workers to start running SOTA fiber optics, or upgrading our crumbling water & sewer systems, or, really, anything, anything, that would improve our domestic infrastructure.

We're coasting on work done, in some cases, during the friggin' New Deal. We're getting lapped by countries like South friggin' Korea, because we're too busy trying to outspend the world on military defense projects instead of outspending the world on domestic infrastructure and social supports.
 
2014-05-07 07:10:58 PM  
It looks like the sort of thing the Top Gear crew would construct from a caravan (and subsequently crash).
 
2014-05-07 07:53:03 PM  

Lukeonia1: I call shenanigans. The rotors weren't even spinning while that thing was "hovering" in midair!


It's because the camera is in sync with the spinning blades:
http://petapixel.com/2012/10/19/camera-synchronized-to-chopper-blade s- creates-amazing-illusion/
 
2014-05-07 08:10:18 PM  

FormlessOne: hinten: Sure, if "bored military engineers" actually means blood sucking crooks that want to suck the sweet bottomless tits of the federal defense budget.

This. Yet another "proof of concept" meant to sucker a contract. Here's a thought - instead of spending a billion dollars on exploring this option, how about we drop that billion on repairing crumbling bridges across the country, or using government workers to start running SOTA fiber optics, or upgrading our crumbling water & sewer systems, or, really, anything, anything, that would improve our domestic infrastructure.

We're coasting on work done, in some cases, during the friggin' New Deal. We're getting lapped by countries like South friggin' Korea, because we're too busy trying to outspend the world on military defense projects instead of outspending the world on domestic infrastructure and social supports.


Do a little research-we outspend the world on almost everything else also-education , welfare, government pensions, tranportation etc.

Combined Federal and State mean tested welfare spending (MEDICAID, SNAP, School lunches etc) will be about $1trillion for FY2014. That does included Social Security, MEDICARE and VA benefits which are not means tested. Combined government education spending (Federal, State and Local)will also approach the $1 trillion. So why pick on defense? It seems to be the only thing we are spending so much money on that we are close actually getting our moneys worth. We outspend everybody on education and welfare but we do not have the best education or welfare systems in the world but we do have the best military.


Obamacare wasted $300 million helping setup on Oregon's healthcare exchange that they are gong to have to shutdown.  Imagine spending that money on infrastructure- There is 1/3 of your billion right there.  Add in failed Nevada Geothermal, A123 systems and Solyndra at over $800 million and you have over a billion dollars right there.




The list goes on but why concentrate on misspent non-infrastructure dollars? Let us look at misspent  infrastructure dollars:


The Big Dig-Central Artery/Tunnel Project (CA/T)  original estimated cost $2.8 billion-The Big Dig was the most expensive highway project in the U.S. and was plagued by escalating costs, scheduling overruns, leaks, design flaws, charges of poor execution and use of substandard materials, criminal arrests, and one death a will end up costing about $22 billion.  Then there are things like the John Murtha airport to nowhere, along with various bridges, highways etc also nowhere. Let us not mention the Federal share of California high speed rail project to and from nowhere.

Combined (all levels) US government transportation spending for FY2014 is estimated to be about $310 billion-an amount approximately equal to about 25% of South Korea's GDP .
 
2014-05-07 08:22:52 PM  
Fat sucking guberment graft.
 
2014-05-07 08:37:36 PM  

Frothy Panties: Cool video and concept...tons of civilian apps.


...like the music, too.


Beer Delivery! ( But not on a frozen lake, or in a Nt. Park, boo hoo)... But, I need me one of these; Sweet Ride!  Casualty Evac means maybe 300 lbs payload? So, me, a light weight hooker and 2 6 packs and a blanket!
 
2014-05-07 10:06:28 PM  

Tr0mBoNe: Jack of all trades is master of none.


Sometimes better than a master of one.
 
2014-05-07 10:07:18 PM  
Though not in this case...
 
2014-05-07 11:06:57 PM  
While you all marvel or detest this concept, I feel it necessary to point out that the video was totally lame. After a minute and a half of BS and lousy music, that thing didn't get high enough to hover over a goal post.
 
2014-05-07 11:16:52 PM  

Zizzowop: While you all marvel or detest this concept, I feel it necessary to point out that the video was totally lame. After a minute and a half of BS and lousy music, that thing didn't get high enough to hover over a goal post.


ah, but it's DHS money ... they'll move the goalposts
 
2014-05-08 01:05:27 AM  

talkertopc: Just what is needed to solve some of the logistics of invading Russia in Autumn: A truck that won't get stuck in the mud.


Yeah, but it's winter by the time you get to Moscow. Just not a fun time overall.
 
2014-05-08 01:10:50 AM  
Soldier Skeet.
 
2014-05-08 01:59:25 AM  
DreamyAltarBoy

Yeah, but it's winter by the time you get to Moscow. Just not a fun time overall.

Hitler did not have ultralight engines, dumpsters, lexan sheet, or a Digi-Key account.

We'll be home in time for Christmas.
 
2014-05-08 01:18:13 PM  
They didn't fly it high because you can't legally fly without an N number.
They can't get an N number without an airworthiness certificate.
They can't get an airworthiness certificate because inspectors keep failing that POS without even getting out of their cars.
 
2014-05-08 03:22:15 PM  
Every time I see some new piece of whizzo kit from the U.S. military, I think of how they were defeated, repeatedly, by guys walking down the Ho Chi Minh trail beside modified bicycles carrying 300 pounds of rice or a disassembled howitzer part. People who knew when American helicopters were close enough to shoot down by extending their arm and holding up their thumb and if the chopper was bigger than their thumb they shot at it.

Have fun with your toys, boys. Good luck with that in the new world.

//reads history
 
2014-05-08 05:25:37 PM  
All those tricks were thought of by a state that knew what the people had.

Bicycles, and their bare hands.

Civil defense -  how does it work?

/IIRC the bikes weren't even modified, they just slung the cargo on both sides of the frame.
 
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