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(Daily Mail)   Lusty licentiousness and prurience, not prudence leads to happy marriages, according to randy rabbi. "Lust is key to all marriages in bible"   (dailymail.co.uk ) divider line
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2014-05-07 11:18:33 AM  

Fafai: H31N0US: I would just as soon not fark someone who isn't interested in farking me. No charity sex for me, thanks.

I was more thinking of sex with other people outside the marriage. I don't accept charity sex either.


While that may be a solution if both people in the marriage are cool with it, something tells me that it wouldn't work most of the time - even if an agreement was reached, it's one thing to say it, something else to actually live it.
 
2014-05-07 11:35:40 AM  
This is not new, just FYI. Talmud Kiddushin 30b (IIRC), in a discussion about marriage and lust:
"I was married at 16; had I been married at 14, I could have told the evil inclination to go piss up a rope."

// the actual expression is "go stick arrows in your eyes", but that doesn't scan as cleanly
// apart from the statutory-rapiness of that, the point is that having an outlet for "teenage lust" allows people to focus on literally anything else, to their benefit
 
2014-05-07 11:54:31 AM  

eKonk: Fafai: H31N0US: I would just as soon not fark someone who isn't interested in farking me. No charity sex for me, thanks.

I was more thinking of sex with other people outside the marriage. I don't accept charity sex either.

While that may be a solution if both people in the marriage are cool with it, something tells me that it wouldn't work most of the time - even if an agreement was reached, it's one thing to say it, something else to actually live it.


This +1!
 
2014-05-07 11:56:25 AM  

eKonk: Fafai: H31N0US: I would just as soon not fark someone who isn't interested in farking me. No charity sex for me, thanks.

I was more thinking of sex with other people outside the marriage. I don't accept charity sex either.

While that may be a solution if both people in the marriage are cool with it, something tells me that it wouldn't work most of the time - even if an agreement was reached, it's one thing to say it, something else to actually live it.


True. Personally my spouse and I have talked about this and you're right--talking is one thing, reality is different. What I think would be more likely in our case is that if it were to come to that, as soon as I started seeing other women she'd be all over my jock again because competition is good for desire. That's why I make it a point never to discount divorce as an option and never to stop flirting with other people, even in front of her. It starts some minor quibbles here and there but it's usually good for the sex life.

When people get it in their heads that their partner should be there no matter what, or they should only express attraction for them and them alone, they get lazy. You should both be working to attract the other always and give them reasons to stay rather than resting easy and expecting them to stay out of obligation. And you should understand that they are attracted to other people and let them express that. People do this with celebrities they'll never meet, but too often they get insecure and take offense when it comes to real people you actually interact with.

tl;dr, flirt with your wife's friends, it's good for the relationship
 
2014-05-07 12:11:41 PM  

Fafai: eKonk: Fafai: H31N0US: I would just as soon not fark someone who isn't interested in farking me. No charity sex for me, thanks.

I was more thinking of sex with other people outside the marriage. I don't accept charity sex either.

While that may be a solution if both people in the marriage are cool with it, something tells me that it wouldn't work most of the time - even if an agreement was reached, it's one thing to say it, something else to actually live it.

True. Personally my spouse and I have talked about this and you're right--talking is one thing, reality is different. What I think would be more likely in our case is that if it were to come to that, as soon as I started seeing other women she'd be all over my jock again because competition is good for desire. That's why I make it a point never to discount divorce as an option and never to stop flirting with other people, even in front of her. It starts some minor quibbles here and there but it's usually good for the sex life.

When people get it in their heads that their partner should be there no matter what, or they should only express attraction for them and them alone, they get lazy. You should both be working to attract the other always and give them reasons to stay rather than resting easy and expecting them to stay out of obligation. And you should understand that they are attracted to other people and let them express that. People do this with celebrities they'll never meet, but too often they get insecure and take offense when it comes to real people you actually interact with.

tl;dr, flirt with your wife's friends, it's good for the relationship


I wish my husband did that. Only to certain friends.
 
2014-05-07 12:23:48 PM  

Grumpy Cat: I wish my husband did that. Only to certain friends.


I'm intrigued. What's the common thread between those certain friends? ...Only the male friends?
 
2014-05-07 01:26:12 PM  
Randy the Rabbi and the Valley of Lusty Prurience will be the next Harry Potter.
 
2014-05-07 03:46:20 PM  

H31N0US: sharpie_69: Fafai: Loren: hubiestubert: In fairness, a sure sign that your marriage is in the tank, when you just don't want to f*ck that person any more. Not even on a holiday or your birthday. You want a happy marriage, find someone you just want to keep f*cking, all the time, any where, any when.

Only if you qualify it to *that person*.  Someone who simply doesn't desire sex anymore can still love their partner.

If their partner still desires sex then that's still a pretty good sign the marriage is "in the tank" unless some concessions can be made.

Bears Repeating.

You're on a road to disaster if one partner still desires sex and the other does not.  Even if they still love the other deeply turning off the sexual portion of the relationship when the other desires it is going to end poorly.    There is going to have to be a long difficult conversation, and both sides will have to make concessions, but just stopping outright isn't going to work in the long run.

I would just as soon not fark someone who isn't interested in farking me. No charity sex for me, thanks.

Which, unfortunately, means no sex for me, unless I step out.

IMO, if one partner loses interest in sex, there should be no expectation of fidelity at that point. But the person who no longer wants to have sex with me will be the same person to fly off the handle and use the judicial system to make my life suck even more if I fark anyone else.

/said 95% of married men in history


Hey, you can pass that charity along to me if you're not interested...

Seriously, though, sometimes in a relationship A has sex with B because B really wants it, even though A's not in the mood.  It probably won't be great sex, but ...as the saying goes, when sex is good, it's wonderful, and when it's bad, it's still pretty good.  If A and B love each other, and most of their sex is from mutual desire and not merely being accommodating, they'll be fine.
 
2014-05-07 10:53:23 PM  

Jim_Callahan: Well, yeah, in the bible marriage involved owning multiple wives who were chattel with no purpose under Jewish law beyond being sex slaves until they got pregnant, having a kid, then repeating.  And the husband was more or less legally obligated to hold up his end of all that sex by himself, and yet also hold down some kind of real job.

I imagine you'd need a good bit of lust to keep up with all that.


have ever actually read the bible, or actually studied anything in Jewish law? Because its pretty obvious here with that display of ignorance.
 
2014-05-07 11:16:52 PM  

jedihirsch: Jim_Callahan: Well, yeah, in the bible marriage involved owning multiple wives who were chattel with no purpose under Jewish law beyond being sex slaves until they got pregnant, having a kid, then repeating.  And the husband was more or less legally obligated to hold up his end of all that sex by himself, and yet also hold down some kind of real job.

I imagine you'd need a good bit of lust to keep up with all that.

have ever actually read the bible, or actually studied anything in Jewish law? Because its pretty obvious here with that display of ignorance.


No partial credit for getting the mutual obligation for sexing bit right?
/That extended  chattel crack pissed me off, too.
 
2014-05-08 12:43:12 AM  

demaL-demaL-yeH: MaudlinMutantMollusk: fusillade762: Kosher Lust

Don't slather your junk with dairy products?

I was thinking have it blessed by a rabbi

/but then why isn't that covered at the bris?
//or is it just an excuse for another ceremony?
///oy

Aaaaaarrrrrrrrrrggggghhhhhh!
This is not what kashrut is about, dammit.
There is no blessing by a rabbi.


So I gotta dip it in the Mikveh?
 
2014-05-08 01:01:20 AM  

DreamyAltarBoy: demaL-demaL-yeH: MaudlinMutantMollusk: fusillade762: Kosher Lust

Don't slather your junk with dairy products?

I was thinking have it blessed by a rabbi

/but then why isn't that covered at the bris?
//or is it just an excuse for another ceremony?
///oy

Aaaaaarrrrrrrrrrggggghhhhhh!
This is not what kashrut is about, dammit.
There is no blessing by a rabbi.

So I gotta dip it in the Mikveh?


Stay away from the mikvah: I don't piss in those holy water thingies.
 
2014-05-08 02:07:34 AM  

demaL-demaL-yeH: DreamyAltarBoy: demaL-demaL-yeH: MaudlinMutantMollusk: fusillade762: Kosher Lust

Don't slather your junk with dairy products?

I was thinking have it blessed by a rabbi

/but then why isn't that covered at the bris?
//or is it just an excuse for another ceremony?
///oy

Aaaaaarrrrrrrrrrggggghhhhhh!
This is not what kashrut is about, dammit.
There is no blessing by a rabbi.

So I gotta dip it in the Mikveh?

Stay away from the mikvah: I don't piss in those holy water thingies.


Now i'm imagining this with horribly stereotypical New York Italian and Jewish accents.
 
2014-05-08 02:34:57 AM  

DreamyAltarBoy: demaL-demaL-yeH: DreamyAltarBoy: demaL-demaL-yeH: MaudlinMutantMollusk: fusillade762: Kosher Lust

Don't slather your junk with dairy products?

I was thinking have it blessed by a rabbi

/but then why isn't that covered at the bris?
//or is it just an excuse for another ceremony?
///oy

Aaaaaarrrrrrrrrrggggghhhhhh!
This is not what kashrut is about, dammit.
There is no blessing by a rabbi.

So I gotta dip it in the Mikveh?

Stay away from the mikvah: I don't piss in those holy water thingies.

Now i'm imagining this with horribly stereotypical New York Italian and Jewish accents.


Midwestern. Yooper when I'm tired. Kentucky when I'm exhausted.
 
2014-05-08 10:20:33 AM  

jedihirsch: Jim_Callahan: Well, yeah, in the bible marriage involved owning multiple wives who were chattel with no purpose under Jewish law beyond being sex slaves until they got pregnant, having a kid, then repeating.  And the husband was more or less legally obligated to hold up his end of all that sex by himself, and yet also hold down some kind of real job.

I imagine you'd need a good bit of lust to keep up with all that.

have ever actually read the bible, or actually studied anything in Jewish law?


With all that sex, and holding down a real job, who has time?
 
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