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(Time)   In the last five days, 120 people have overdosed in Texas on legal synthetic marijuana. Take that, Colorado   (time.com) divider line 123
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2014-05-06 09:30:06 PM
Is real weed that hard to get in Texas?
 
2014-05-06 09:42:02 PM
I tried synthetic mj once. It was nothing like mj. I think they just market it like that to give the impression it's a safe, mellow high, which it's not. Never again.
 
2014-05-06 09:48:12 PM
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Not for consumption? WTF?
 
2014-05-06 09:49:22 PM
That's 120 more than would have overdosed on you know, the regular kind...
 
Skr
2014-05-06 09:49:41 PM

PreMortem: I tried synthetic mj once. It was nothing like mj. I think they just market it like that to give the impression it's a safe, mellow high, which it's not. Never again.


It's a panic attack laden chem fest that shouldn't be associated with Marijuana in any shape, form, or name. Yeah, never again.
 
2014-05-06 09:50:37 PM

jst3p: Not for consumption? WTF?


It's basically potpourri.

And yea, it sucks. Not anything close to weed high. Shiat is scary.
 
2014-05-06 09:52:25 PM
The results of "Intelligent Design" ??
Not that weed is so hard to get in TX, it is just that possession of any of it will send you to jail forever.
Hell, in Texas they might just decide to fast-track you an execution for smoking 'devil' weed.
 
2014-05-06 09:53:16 PM
...synthetic ...

Well thar's yer problem.
 
2014-05-06 09:53:24 PM
FTFA: K2 is designed by the chemists who create it to give users a high that is similar to weed. The effects of K2, however, are largely unknown.

This seems like a good idea.
 
2014-05-06 09:53:55 PM
Not legal in my part of Texas, subby ...
 
2014-05-06 09:54:22 PM
Dr. James d'Etienne of Dallas' Baylor Medical Center said that "several of [the patients] came in with similar symptoms of psychosis, altered mental status, abnormal behavior." ... K2 is designed by the chemists who create it to give users a high that is similar to weed.


What.
 
2014-05-06 09:56:42 PM
In the last five days, 120 people have overdosed in Texas on legal synthetic not marijuana.
 
2014-05-06 09:57:28 PM
I hear synthetic is more like trying to get high by smoking Potpourri.

/ which, apparently, is also a thing
 
2014-05-06 09:58:18 PM

Somaticasual: That's 120 more than would have everoverdosed on you know, the regular kind...


Marjuana is many things, but barring some major allergy you're looking at very low chance of overdose given the LD50. Not even a Cheech and Chong style jumbo sized blunt could do it.
 
2014-05-06 10:00:51 PM
It's not consistent enough. I smoked the bowls out of the same bag, and each bowl affected me differently.

No thanks
 
2014-05-06 10:01:23 PM

fusillade762: Is real weed that hard to get in Texas?


no
 
2014-05-06 10:01:44 PM
legalize real pot and then you'll have a lot less ODs.
 
2014-05-06 10:05:18 PM
They could try some Salvia instead if that hasn't been made illegal there yet.
 
2014-05-06 10:05:25 PM

Egalitarian: legalize real pot and then you'll have a lot less ODs.


What makes you think they want less ODs?

It seems that everything is going according to plan.
 
2014-05-06 10:05:46 PM

kelphead: It's not consistent enough. I smoked the bowls out of the same bag, and each bowl affected me differently.

No thanks


Supposed to say three bowls not the bowls.
 
2014-05-06 10:07:14 PM

Egalitarian: legalize real pot and then you'll have a lot less ODs.


Hell, prolly have less ODs with Flintone's Chewable Morphine.

That synthetic crap is fly by night chemistry with unknown manufacture. There's a reason it's labeled "not for human consumption"
 
2014-05-06 10:07:36 PM
Well, when you make the real thing illegal, and difficult to find compared to being able to go to the local head shop and/or hopping online, then yes, you're going to end up with more of this sort of thing. There is no end to legal substances that can get you high, and as you ban one, another is already in the pipeline. But, as you continue down that path, you'll find there's less and less known about the new substance(s), and that the side effects are progressively scarier and more dangerous.

And, you're stupid if you believe that people will just give up on getting high. It's not going to happen.

Let's consider two scenarios. Scenario A: You smoked too much pot, start getting panicky, go to the hospital. If you fess up and admit to what you consumed, they can give you some saline, maybe give you something to calm your nerves. Everything's fine. Scenario B: You bought some herbal thing off the Internet, consumed too much, now your heart is racing and you're drifting in and out of reality. You go to the hospital. Guess what? The hospital is just guessing at how to treat you. They've never heard of this herb, can't verify that's what you actually consumed, and don't know enough about how to treat an overdose to actually effectively keep things from getting worse.

Every last person who is out there fighting against legalization of marijuana or sitting around complacent/apathetic/whatever and not actively voting out the fark heads in the government who keep marijuana illegal are entirely, 100% to blame for these kinds of deaths. End of story.
 
2014-05-06 10:12:47 PM

doglover: Somaticasual: That's 120 more than would have everoverdosed on you know, the regular kind...

Marjuana is many things, but barring some major allergy you're looking at very low chance of overdose given the LD50. Not even a Cheech and Chong style jumbo sized blunt could do it.


I'm sure you could inject or drink enough of the concentrated and cooked active ingredients with a chemistry lab and a lot of effort, but straight leaf is impossible to die from.  "Impossible" is a pretty heavy word, yet still applies.
 
2014-05-06 10:15:32 PM
And the number of ODs on REAL wwweeeeeeddd.... 0.  Because you can't really OD on it.
 
2014-05-06 10:16:33 PM

TheBigJerk: straight leaf is impossible to die from.


blog.oregonlive.com

1 ton of marijuana, or anything else, falls on you and it's gonna hurt.
 
2014-05-06 10:20:40 PM
If only there was some safe, natural, alternative.
 
2014-05-06 10:22:12 PM

Archfeld: The results of "Intelligent Design" ??
Not that weed is so hard to get in TX, it is just that possession of any of it will send you to jail forever.
Hell, in Texas they might just decide to fast-track you an execution for smoking 'devil' weed.


Possession of Marijuana is a "Cite and Release" offense in Texas.  The officer can write you a ticket and not even take you to jail.  You ain't from around here I take it?
 
2014-05-06 10:22:15 PM
1. this isn't weed, stop calling it synthetic marijuana.

2. IT SAYS NOT FOR CONSUMPTION ON THE PACKAGE.

3. this in no way, shape or form validates legalization of pot.

4. OD'ing, in my mind, is dying. these people consumed something not intended to be consumed.


/i am off to eat some of these new delicious tide detergent candies. YUM
 
2014-05-06 10:25:07 PM

fusillade762: Is real weed that hard to get in Texas?


You sure as hell can't get it in a convenience store, or in any store for that matter. So yes, unless you know somebody.
 
2014-05-06 10:26:49 PM

What_Would_Jimi_Do: /i am off to eat some of these new delicious tide detergent candies. YUM


www.consumerreports.org
 
2014-05-06 10:28:57 PM
How bout we rename it synthetic bibles?
 
2014-05-06 10:30:50 PM

Archfeld: Hell, in Texas they might just decide to fast-track you an execution for smoking 'devil' weed.


Actually, Rick Perry even supports decriminalization.

Just sayin'.
 
2014-05-06 10:36:45 PM
I'm a Colorado native. Who cares what kills Texans?   Just kidding, dammmit. Don't get your panties all bunched up, cowsquirrels. I save the hard core stuff for Wyoming.
 
2014-05-06 10:38:07 PM

mrlewish: How bout we rename it synthetic bibles?


Because that's much closer to the truth and more consistent with reality. You've gotta keep people on their toes.

/off to eat some synthetic oranges
//maybe have a bowl of synthetic oatmeal
///hopefully won't OD on either
 
2014-05-06 10:38:36 PM

fusillade762: Is real weed that hard to get in Texas?

Not in the slightest. The first time I visited Illinois I was farking shocked at how hard it is to find and how much it costs. Around the DFW you can pick up an O for like $60 on just about any corner in Deep Ellum or off Lower Greenville.

Or thats what I hear at least.....
 
2014-05-06 10:38:44 PM
At least they died law abiding citizens.

They could have lived as horrible criminals that deserve to be locked up in jail if they had smoked a plant.
 
2014-05-06 10:39:09 PM

PreMortem: I tried synthetic mj smoking potpurri once. It was nothing like mj. I think they just market it like that to give the impression it's a safe, mellow high, which it's not. Never again.


FTFY. Seriously, it took all of *one* puff to turn me off that crap altogether, and that was in it's first incarnation as artificial THC.
 
2014-05-06 10:39:17 PM

BlackMtnMan: I'm a Colorado native. Who cares what kills Texans?   Just kidding, dammmit. Don't get your panties all bunched up, cowsquirrels. I save the hard core stuff for Wyoming.


Well Partner, Texas doesn't care... uh... about what you say.
Yeah, that's it.
 
2014-05-06 10:40:06 PM

fusillade762: Is real weed that hard to get in Texas?


Many people consume synthetic cannabis because they're being drug tested. Yet another positive externality of violating people's rights.
 
2014-05-06 10:40:34 PM
Who's down to party?

www.spud.ca
 
2014-05-06 10:41:23 PM

MrHappyRotter: Well, when you make the real thing illegal, and difficult to find compared to being able to go to the local head shop and/or hopping online, then yes, you're going to end up with more of this sort of thing. There is no end to legal substances that can get you high, and as you ban one, another is already in the pipeline. But, as you continue down that path, you'll find there's less and less known about the new substance(s), and that the side effects are progressively scarier and more dangerous.

And, you're stupid if you believe that people will just give up on getting high. It's not going to happen.

Let's consider two scenarios. Scenario A: You smoked too much pot, start getting panicky, go to the hospital. If you fess up and admit to what you consumed, they can give you some saline, maybe give you something to calm your nerves. Everything's fine. Scenario B: You bought some herbal thing off the Internet, consumed too much, now your heart is racing and you're drifting in and out of reality. You go to the hospital. Guess what? The hospital is just guessing at how to treat you. They've never heard of this herb, can't verify that's what you actually consumed, and don't know enough about how to treat an overdose to actually effectively keep things from getting worse.

Every last person who is out there fighting against legalization of marijuana or sitting around complacent/apathetic/whatever and not actively voting out the fark heads in the government who keep marijuana illegal are entirely, 100% to blame for these kinds of deaths. End of story.


Nope. The people putting a substance into their own body are to blame. Personal responsibility, how does it work? If you don't want to end up in hospital don't do the drug.
 
2014-05-06 10:41:31 PM
It would be nice if they put the exact chemicals that are in this!
 
2014-05-06 10:44:19 PM

TheWhoppah: What_Would_Jimi_Do: /i am off to eat some of these new delicious tide detergent candies. YUM

[www.consumerreports.org image 240x175]


Those things do look yummy!
 
2014-05-06 10:46:03 PM

Somaticasual: That's 120 more than would have overdosed on you know, the regular kind...


And we are DONE here.  Came to say that, etc.

Real weed is not nearly as harmful as all the substitutes people will use when they can't use the real thing.  Why is it that the safe stuff is illegal and paint thinner is still sold over the counter?
 
2014-05-06 10:51:23 PM

bmwericus: Somaticasual: That's 120 more than would have overdosed on you know, the regular kind...

And we are DONE here.  Came to say that, etc.

Real weed is not nearly as harmful as all the substitutes people will use when they can't use the real thing.  Why is it that the safe stuff is illegal and paint thinner is still sold over the counter?


Because the mexicans used to smoke it and we wanted to deport them many years ago.
 
2014-05-06 10:57:15 PM

fusillade762: Is real weed that hard to get in Texas?


No.
 
2014-05-06 10:58:48 PM
Real stuff is easy to get but this is cheaper. Most ODs among homeless or near homeless. Apparently this batch is laced with pcp
 
2014-05-06 11:03:57 PM

MrHappyRotter: Well, when you make the real thing illegal, and difficult to find compared to being able to go to the local head shop and/or hopping online, then yes, you're going to end up with more of this sort of thing. There is no end to legal substances that can get you high, and as you ban one, another is already in the pipeline. But, as you continue down that path, you'll find there's less and less known about the new substance(s), and that the side effects are progressively scarier and more dangerous.

And, you're stupid if you believe that people will just give up on getting high. It's not going to happen.

Let's consider two scenarios. Scenario A: You smoked too much pot, start getting panicky, go to the hospital. If you fess up and admit to what you consumed, they can give you some saline, maybe give you something to calm your nerves. Everything's fine. Scenario B: You bought some herbal thing off the Internet, consumed too much, now your heart is racing and you're drifting in and out of reality. You go to the hospital. Guess what? The hospital is just guessing at how to treat you. They've never heard of this herb, can't verify that's what you actually consumed, and don't know enough about how to treat an overdose to actually effectively keep things from getting worse.

Every last person who is out there fighting against legalization of marijuana or sitting around complacent/apathetic/whatever and not actively voting out the fark heads in the government who keep marijuana illegal are entirely, 100% to blame for these kinds of deaths. End of story.


Ever seen "The House I Live In"? That will piss you off even more.
 
2014-05-06 11:05:33 PM
LiberalConservative:
Nope. The people putting a substance into their own body are to blame. Personal responsibility, how does it work? If you don't want to end up in hospital don't do the drug.

All the more reason to criminalize it in the first place, right? Right. Moran.
 
2014-05-06 11:06:35 PM

LiberalConservative: MrHappyRotter: Well, when you make the real thing illegal, and difficult to find compared to being able to go to the local head shop and/or hopping online, then yes, you're going to end up with more of this sort of thing. There is no end to legal substances that can get you high, and as you ban one, another is already in the pipeline. But, as you continue down that path, you'll find there's less and less known about the new substance(s), and that the side effects are progressively scarier and more dangerous.

And, you're stupid if you believe that people will just give up on getting high. It's not going to happen.

Let's consider two scenarios. Scenario A: You smoked too much pot, start getting panicky, go to the hospital. If you fess up and admit to what you consumed, they can give you some saline, maybe give you something to calm your nerves. Everything's fine. Scenario B: You bought some herbal thing off the Internet, consumed too much, now your heart is racing and you're drifting in and out of reality. You go to the hospital. Guess what? The hospital is just guessing at how to treat you. They've never heard of this herb, can't verify that's what you actually consumed, and don't know enough about how to treat an overdose to actually effectively keep things from getting worse.

Every last person who is out there fighting against legalization of marijuana or sitting around complacent/apathetic/whatever and not actively voting out the fark heads in the government who keep marijuana illegal are entirely, 100% to blame for these kinds of deaths. End of story.

Nope. The people putting a substance into their own body are to blame. Personal responsibility, how does it work? If you don't want to end up in hospital don't do the drug.


You may be missing the point.
 
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