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2014-05-06 09:33:36 PM  
Dollars to donuts one of them is Comcast.
 
2014-05-06 09:50:09 PM  
Well, I thought my internet was slower, but then Netflix has been fine. Huh... Probably unrelated to my issue.
 
2014-05-06 09:51:15 PM  
images.politico.com
 
Skr
2014-05-06 09:52:03 PM  
picslap.com
 
2014-05-06 09:52:32 PM  
My access is 4G wireless

/it gets me to my bandwidth limit quite fast enough, thank you
 
2014-05-06 09:52:46 PM  
Don't like the way your ISP treats you? Just pick another one.*


*Offer not valid in the United States and other regions with monopolistic/duopolistic ISPs.
 
2014-05-06 09:53:52 PM  
No wonder rebooting my router and computer didn't help my internet experience.
 
2014-05-06 09:54:10 PM  
ISP hate Americans.
 
2014-05-06 09:54:19 PM  
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2014-05-06 09:54:43 PM  
Or, you know, you could go with a smaller independent ISP...... BWAAAAHHHAAAHHAHAH, I'm sorry, couldn't say it with a straight face.
 
2014-05-06 09:56:21 PM  
I'm sure the Free Market will take care of this, for the benefit of all.
 
2014-05-06 09:58:15 PM  
"in countries or markets where consumers have multiple broadband choices (like the UK) there are no congested peers."

Oh.

Ok then.
 
2014-05-06 09:58:54 PM  
remember when people said that net neutrality was a solution for a problem that didn't exist?

boy I sure do.
 
2014-05-06 09:59:55 PM  

rustypouch: I'm sure the Free Market will take care of this, for the benefit of all.


It functions by a very simple mechanism - the provider buys the right to an exclusive monopoly in your area, then charges you whatever they want for service the feel like providing. It's American style capitalism in action.
 
2014-05-06 10:00:06 PM  
Time to end the monopolies that stand between us and bandwidth.  Other countries are way faster just because we have monopolies.
 
2014-05-06 10:00:13 PM  
But by all means, lets let them consolidate their monopolies into even bigger monopolies.

Then if we could let those monopolies extend themselves into the entertainment, hardware, wireless, and other industries and consolidate there as well, that would be great.  Then let's let them straight-up buy our political system with these monopolies and complete the circle.   I am sure the result of this will be lower prices and better service for everyone.

After all, we're only dead last in internet infrastructure, speed, and cost in most of the developed world under this strategy so far, so there's nowhere to go but up!
 
2014-05-06 10:00:37 PM  
CenturyLink sucks if you don't live in northern Colorado.
 
2014-05-06 10:02:01 PM  

generallyso: Don't like the way your ISP treats you? Just pick another one.*


*Offer not valid in the United States and other regions with monopolistic/duopolistic ISPs.


Good luck in the country, and many rural ISPs they jut buy bandwidth from the big boys who then throttle upstream.  Just do that tracert to find out who the culprits are.
 
2014-05-06 10:02:37 PM  
I had one person say that I should be happy that Comcast only charges me $70/month for high speed internet, and I do have a choice otherwise, which is DSL.

Why yes, this person is a hard-line Republican, how did you know?
 
2014-05-06 10:04:52 PM  
Corporations are people. A very specific type of people. Why are you racist?
 
2014-05-06 10:05:04 PM  
Name them
 
2014-05-06 10:07:59 PM  

PapaChester: Corporations are people. A very specific type of people. Why are you racist?


i was bullied by assholes when i was little so now i am racist against Asshole-Americans
 
2014-05-06 10:08:48 PM  
I use AT&T and have noticed in the past few months streaming vids have become terrible to watch.  I never had a buffering problem before until recently.

/yes, buffering can be taken as a sexual innuendo
 
2014-05-06 10:10:04 PM  

Caffienatedjedi: Well, I thought my internet was slower, but then Netflix has been fine. Huh... Probably unrelated to my issue.


Netflix paid their bandwidth ransom.
 
2014-05-06 10:10:27 PM  

rev. dave: Time to end the monopolies that stand between us and bandwidth.  Other countries are way faster just because we have monopolies.


Other countries has better internet.

If you think the solution to the problem is a 1GB line, you're a moron. Sorry.


And how farking fast do you think your advertised speed needs to be to watch Netflix anyway?
 
2014-05-06 10:10:39 PM  
I love the arguments these companies make that they aren't monopolies. I'd laugh about it but I need to go bend over for my isp. Something about 78/month for dsl.
 
2014-05-06 10:10:48 PM  
Bandwidth = cold hard cash. Ask Verizon what a 30Mbit MPLS circuit will cost and you'll happily pay your ISP.
 
2014-05-06 10:11:57 PM  

RoxtarRyan: I had one person say that I should be happy that Comcast only charges me $70/month for high speed internet, and I do have a choice otherwise, which is DSL.

Why yes, this person is a hard-line Republican, how did you know?


DSL is fine. I can live with 50mbit.
 
2014-05-06 10:12:50 PM  
more like 'is-pee'...amirite?
 
2014-05-06 10:13:36 PM  

bojon: CenturyLink sucks if you don't live in northern Colorado.


I would half-agree, I have Centurylink but have a crappy speed because I'm cheap.  Had a lot of drop-offs when the kids watch cartoons on Netflix the last 2-3 weeks though.
 
2014-05-06 10:15:20 PM  
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Don't worry.  The Internet won't let this pass.

UPVOTES CAN SAVE THE WORLD.

BROTHERS, WE NEED YOUR MOUSE-CLICKS!
 
2014-05-06 10:17:39 PM  

Skr:


Hey, I think your image is brok...

Awe goddamnit...
 
2014-05-06 10:18:12 PM  
Please, my ISP is barely even letting me read this at all.
 
2014-05-06 10:19:29 PM  
4G ftw
 
2014-05-06 10:19:33 PM  
300 baud

/Nostalgia
 
2014-05-06 10:21:38 PM  

Caffienatedjedi: Well, I thought my internet was slower, but then Netflix has been fine. Huh... Probably unrelated to my issue.


Netflix has made a deal with a couple of ISPs to guarantee that you won't notice any issues.   This may work out for our benefit in the future as ISPs are addicted to that sweet, sweet Netflix cash and are forced to do whatever Netflix wants much in the way that the Postal Service now bends over for their DVD service.
 
2014-05-06 10:22:05 PM  
Comcast and the others will have a rude awakening if they're trying to extort money from the backbone providers.

But from a different, more tech-savvy article I read, Comcast (and the other 5) are simply not upgrading their sides of the peering links. They're trying to claim that most of the traffic is coming from the backbone, but what they don't say is that its their own customers who are requesting that traffic. In effect, the ISPs have oversold their capacity to a fraudulent overload situation.

People have complained about airlines overselling planes, but it's only a few seats. How would you feel if the flights were 2x capacity oversold? 5x oversold? No, try 20x to 100x oversold. Imagine showing up to your flight and 5000 people were waiting for your 120 seat plane. And the next flight out was next week. And you lived on an island with no alternative. Although, in reality, the airline bumping is better, because they are required by law to pay you for bumping you. The ISPs aren't required to honor anything.
 
2014-05-06 10:22:31 PM  
Level 3 is getting fed up with bullshiat.  That's a good sign.  Also said they're not gonna pay ransoms.  Better sign!
 
2014-05-06 10:22:33 PM  

Wangiss: 300 baud

/Nostalgia


So painful. Even back in the day.
 
2014-05-06 10:23:11 PM  

undflickertail: generallyso: Don't like the way your ISP treats you? Just pick another one.*


*Offer not valid in the United States and other regions with monopolistic/duopolistic ISPs.

Good luck in the country, and many rural ISPs they jut buy bandwidth from the big boys who then throttle upstream.  Just do that tracert to find out who the culprits are.


That would be XO Communications.
 
2014-05-06 10:24:01 PM  

spawn73: rev. dave: Time to end the monopolies that stand between us and bandwidth.  Other countries are way faster just because we have monopolies.

Other countries has better internet.

If you think the solution to the problem is a 1GB line, you're a moron. Sorry.


And how farking fast do you think your advertised speed needs to be to watch Netflix anyway?


have a Gb line from Google Fiber and it solved my problems. What are you even talking about?
 
2014-05-06 10:26:19 PM  
"Nice network speed you got there. Shame if something were to... "happen"... to it...."
 
2014-05-06 10:29:07 PM  

WhoopAssWayne: Wangiss: 300 baud

/Nostalgia

So painful. Even back in the day.


For you whippersnappers who never experienced 300 baud:

2400 was fast enough that a 80x25 screen of text would refresh quite quickly.  1200 was fast enough that you'd see it scroll line by line but it wasn't terrible.  If you had a noisy line and you connected at 300 (or, worse yet, had a 300 baud modem... which was before my time) then you could read faster than the text came up on the screen.
 
2014-05-06 10:32:04 PM  
So, we give ISPs $500 billion in grants and tax breaks since 1996 to build a high speed infrastructure, and they fail to do so. They consolidate ownership and bend us subscribers over the kitchen counter with monthly rates. They intentionality sandbag bandwidth rates, and now they want to charge content providers and subscribers a toll to have access to certain content AT SPEEDS WE HAVE ALREADY PAID FOR TWICE...

If an ISP/Telecom CEO is dismembered by an angry mob, it will surprise no one but the four horses that get their asses slapped.
 
2014-05-06 10:34:05 PM  

Darkviking: I use AT&T and have noticed in the past few months streaming vids have become terrible to watch.  I never had a buffering problem before until recently.

/yes, buffering can be taken as a sexual innuendo


I use AT&T too and have noticed the same problem.Not just with videos, either.
 
2014-05-06 10:35:19 PM  

Mister Peejay: WhoopAssWayne: Wangiss: 300 baud

/Nostalgia

So painful. Even back in the day.

For you whippersnappers who never experienced 300 baud:

2400 was fast enough that a 80x25 screen of text would refresh quite quickly.  1200 was fast enough that you'd see it scroll line by line but it wasn't terrible.  If you had a noisy line and you connected at 300 (or, worse yet, had a 300 baud modem... which was before my time) then you could read faster than the text came up on the screen.


IBM PC Jr. Portable computing that revolutionized business while burning your lap.
 
2014-05-06 10:35:24 PM  
I'm damned lucky to have the carrier formerly known as Verizon (Frontier) for DSL. As a rural customer, I literally have no other choice for quality internet. It's either $70/mo for DSL, $90+ for local wireless (which is sketchy), $90+ for satellite (which is sketchy and shiate), or $15 for dial-up. That's it. And I live across a small field from a subdivision with $500k houses and cable. I can even see town from my house. But the cable company won't run a line to me.  Around here we have one cable monopoly, TWC which in a little over a year of buying out Insight, has raised prices and dropped quality to everyone I have talked to.

Netflix streams have gotten slower the past couple of months with horrible pixelated viewing experiences. Youtube? You have to go do dishes, by hand, while it buffers. And now that net neutrality is gone, it's only going to get worse, especially since corporations are now people and lobbying is the new
pastime on Capital Hill.
 
2014-05-06 10:36:51 PM  
If there was some way we could take the net away from them and give it to other companies who would promise to play right.
 
2014-05-06 10:37:17 PM  

Poowaddins: I'm damned lucky to have the carrier formerly known as Verizon (Frontier) for DSL. As a rural customer, I literally have no other choice for quality internet. It's either $70/mo for DSL, $90+ for local wireless (which is sketchy), $90+ for satellite (which is sketchy and shiate), or $15 for dial-up. That's it. And I live across a small field from a subdivision with $500k houses and cable. I can even see town from my house. But the cable company won't run a line to me.  Around here we have one cable monopoly, TWC which in a little over a year of buying out Insight, has raised prices and dropped quality to everyone I have talked to.

Netflix streams have gotten slower the past couple of months with horrible pixelated viewing experiences. Youtube? You have to go do dishes, by hand, while it buffers. And now that net neutrality is gone, it's only going to get worse, especially since corporations are now people and lobbying is the newpastime on Capital Hill.


Ever consider getting a parabolic antenna and paying a neighbor to login to their Wi-Fi?
 
2014-05-06 10:37:36 PM  

Mister Peejay: 2400 was fast enough that a 80x25 screen of text would refresh quite quickly.


And when the 9600 baud US Robotics came out? Yeah, I'll put 5 bills on that. Anything - anything - but waiting for individual characters to pop up.
 
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