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(The Daily Beast)   The prosecutor's antics in the murder trial of "Bladerunner" Oscar Pistorius would make for a great episode of "Law and Order" but, in the US at least, would probably entitle Pistorius to a mistrial   (thedailybeast.com) divider line 136
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2014-05-06 11:39:20 AM
They're just questions, Leon. In answer to your query, they're written down for me. It's a test designed to provoke an emotional response.
 
2014-05-06 11:54:38 AM
But it's not the U.S., so get over yourself, Snowflake.
 
2014-05-06 11:59:29 AM
And let's just get this out of the way, shall we.......

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2014-05-06 12:16:45 PM

cretinbob: But it's not the U.S., so get over yourself, Snowflake.


It is a court that follows the Anglo-American Legal system however, and the same rules of prosecutorial conduct, rules of evidence and procedure apply, so there is a good chance the prosecutor has handed Pistorius grounds for an appeal if he should lose
 
2014-05-06 12:26:33 PM
People get murdered all the time, and I'm sorry but this pretty white girl wasn't going to contribute anything but fapping material. And even that wasn't going to last much longer.
 
2014-05-06 12:33:13 PM
Don't cur.
 
2014-05-06 12:35:13 PM
With a name like "Bladerunner" it's probably a good thing he's on trial for shooting her.
 
2014-05-06 12:36:18 PM
Is it because he's a lesbian?
 
2014-05-06 12:36:37 PM

cretinbob: And let's just get this out of the way, shall we.......

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What's that have to do with anything?
 
2014-05-06 12:37:06 PM
Prosecutor: Describe in single words only the good things that come into your mind about... your murder.

Pistorius: My murder?

Prosecutor: Yeah.

Pistorius: Let me tell you about my murder...
 
2014-05-06 12:37:10 PM
I know reading stories about a case in the news us a poor substitute for sitting on a jury, but everything I've read makes the guy look guilty as hell. All the more reason though for a prosecutor to play by the rules (if those are the rules down there as well as here) and not screw things up.
 
2014-05-06 12:37:41 PM

Sin_City_Superhero: With a name like "Bladerunner" it's probably a good thing he's on trial for shooting her.


he thought she was a replicant, duh! She failed the Voight-Kompf test.
 
2014-05-06 12:38:16 PM
The prosecutor is an a-hole.  Film at 11.

/Oscar did it.  Quit crying.
 
2014-05-06 12:38:36 PM
Is the defense allowed to object in the South African system? Sounds like Pistorius got some shiatty lawyers for a world-famous athlete.
 
2014-05-06 12:39:10 PM

PreMortem: People get murdered all the time, and I'm sorry but this pretty white girl wasn't going to contribute anything but fapping material. And even that wasn't going to last much longer.


And considering all that I'm hearing from a friend who's a South African expat, all sorts of black on white violence (murders, rapes, brutality, etc) are happening on such a broad scale, that she's surprised he's still on trial and not tossed into prison already, but most likely just due to his former celebrity status...
 
2014-05-06 12:40:31 PM

Cold_Sassy: The prosecutor is an a-hole.  Film at 11.

/Oscar did it.  Quit crying.


See that's the funny thing about Criminal trials.  Even an incredibly guilty person may end up walking if the prosecutor is incompetent and those doing the investigation are assholes who can't be bothered to play by the rules,   especially when the defendant is a former star athelete
 
2014-05-06 12:45:37 PM

Cold_Sassy: The prosecutor is an a-hole.  Film at 11.

/Oscar did it.  Quit crying.


Everyone knows he did it. The question is: was it a tragic accident - or murder.
 
2014-05-06 12:53:03 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: They're just questions, Leon. In answer to your query, they're written down for me. It's a test designed to provoke an emotional response.


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2014-05-06 12:53:35 PM
Subby sounds Italian.
 
2014-05-06 12:54:37 PM

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: Is it because he's a lesbian?


media.giphy.com
 
2014-05-06 01:00:34 PM
I move for a bad court thingy.
 
2014-05-06 01:00:59 PM

Sin_City_Superhero: With a name like "Bladerunner" it's probably a good thing he's on trial for shooting retiring her.


media1.giphy.com
/FTFY
 
2014-05-06 01:03:49 PM

Private_Citizen: Cold_Sassy: The prosecutor is an a-hole.  Film at 11.

/Oscar did it.  Quit crying.

Everyone knows he did it. The question is: was it a tragic accident - or murder.


Oh, puh-llllllleese! ;)
 
2014-05-06 01:06:53 PM

Cold_Sassy: The prosecutor is an a-hole.  Film at 11.

/Oscar did it.  Quit crying.


It's not in question that he killed her. What's in question is whether he did so under reasonable fear for his life or if it was because he sought to murder her.
 
2014-05-06 01:12:08 PM
If she'd been a deaf mute victim, AND IF she didn't live with him AND IF she wasn't expected in the house,
AND IF he was awakened during "intruder"/sleeping hours then maybe it's negligent homicide
BUT it appears as if he just started shooting through a closed bathroom door.
That's the kind of thing that happens if you are chasing someone with a gun.
He's a killer.
 
2014-05-06 01:14:08 PM
I really don't care how/why he said he did what he did... the best possible scenario is that he is a stupid dumbass that shot someone through a closed door in the dark. Who does that! Fark him and toss his Yosemite Sam ass in jail for at least a couple of decades.
 
2014-05-06 01:18:57 PM
At least we can all agree that he's guilty as hell, right?    Please don't tell me someone actually believes his BS.

Given that minor fact, I think anything short of a direct kick to the groin is justified.
 
2014-05-06 01:19:30 PM

Tawnos: Cold_Sassy: The prosecutor is an a-hole.  Film at 11.

/Oscar did it.  Quit crying.

It's not in question that he killed her. What's in question is whether he did so under reasonable fear for his life or if it was because he sought to murder her.


This is a question? Guy empties a shotgun through a locked bathroom door because he's defending himself? Hell, he should be tried for murder if it WAS an intruder.
 
2014-05-06 01:23:32 PM

Arcturus72: PreMortem: People get murdered all the time, and I'm sorry but this pretty white girl wasn't going to contribute anything but fapping material. And even that wasn't going to last much longer.

And considering all that I'm hearing from a friend who's a South African expat, all sorts of black on white violence (murders, rapes, brutality, etc) are happening on such a broad scale, that she's surprised he's still on trial and not tossed into prison already, but most likely just due to his former celebrity status...


Which is much more troubling than the much, much more common black on black violence in South Africa? Is your friend Nancy Grace?
 
2014-05-06 01:24:18 PM

cretinbob: And let's just get this out of the way, shall we.......

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Yeah, clear the air and let everyone know your an idiot before we have to guess.
 
2014-05-06 01:25:02 PM

Moopy Mac: Arcturus72: PreMortem: People get murdered all the time, and I'm sorry but this pretty white girl wasn't going to contribute anything but fapping material. And even that wasn't going to last much longer.

And considering all that I'm hearing from a friend who's a South African expat, all sorts of black on white violence (murders, rapes, brutality, etc) are happening on such a broad scale, that she's surprised he's still on trial and not tossed into prison already, but most likely just due to his former celebrity status...

Which is much more troubling than the much, much more common black on black violence in South Africa? Is your friend Nancy Grace?


Don't mind him, he just gets jealous when he watches porn.
 
2014-05-06 01:25:07 PM
In other news, if South African prosecutor acted like a US prosecutor, the case would probably result in a mistrial.

Here's a hint for you subby, you play by the rules in the jurisdiction you are in, not by those from a jurisdiction half way around the world from where you are.
 
2014-05-06 01:27:11 PM

Arcturus72: I'm hearing from a friend who's a South African expat, all sorts of black on white violence (murders, rapes, brutality, etc) are happening on such a broad scale


Your expat friend sounds... white
 
2014-05-06 01:28:41 PM

LazyMedia: Tawnos: Cold_Sassy: The prosecutor is an a-hole.  Film at 11.

/Oscar did it.  Quit crying.

It's not in question that he killed her. What's in question is whether he did so under reasonable fear for his life or if it was because he sought to murder her.

This is a question? Guy empties a shotgun through a locked bathroom door because he's defending himself? Hell, he should be tried for murder if it WAS an intruder.


I think it was a handgun, not a shotgun.  Other than that your are absolutely right.
 
2014-05-06 01:29:23 PM

Two16: ThatGuyFromTheInternet: Is it because he's a lesbian?

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So what are your findings, Mr. Deckard?

He.... he doesn't know.   He doesn't know he's a murderer.

And how many questions does it usually take?

/etc.etc.  this could be a long, fun thread. :)
 
2014-05-06 01:32:11 PM

Arcturus72: PreMortem: People get murdered all the time, and I'm sorry but this pretty white girl wasn't going to contribute anything but fapping material. And even that wasn't going to last much longer.

And considering all that I'm hearing from a friend who's a South African expat, all sorts of black on white violence (murders, rapes, brutality, etc) are happening on such a broad scale, that she's surprised he's still on trial and not tossed into prison already, but most likely just due to his former celebrity status...


What does the national crime rate have to do with this case?  And why single out black on white crime?
 
2014-05-06 01:35:11 PM
Rick Romero says: The rules and procedures for criminal trials in different countries are different.
 
2014-05-06 01:38:04 PM

LazyMedia: Tawnos: Cold_Sassy: The prosecutor is an a-hole.  Film at 11.

/Oscar did it.  Quit crying.

It's not in question that he killed her. What's in question is whether he did so under reasonable fear for his life or if it was because he sought to murder her.

This is a question? Guy empties a shotgun through a locked bathroom door because he's defending himself? Hell, he should be tried for murder if it WAS an intruder.


Not that this in ANY WAY excuses him, but evidence is emerging that Pistorius was a gun nut who;'d begun having paranoid delusions and acting very irrationally before the shooting .  My personal guess is that he was juicing and whoever was giving him the roids didn't know enough to alter the dosage for his decreased body mass and so he had enough in him to induce a steroid psychosis
 
2014-05-06 01:39:41 PM
Imagine the prosecutor as Jack McCoy, and he's determined not to let Pistorious get away with it, because his legs are made of metal and robots are strong.
 
2014-05-06 01:41:03 PM
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"I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to!"
 
2014-05-06 01:43:58 PM

Magorn: LazyMedia: Tawnos: Cold_Sassy: The prosecutor is an a-hole.  Film at 11.

/Oscar did it.  Quit crying.

It's not in question that he killed her. What's in question is whether he did so under reasonable fear for his life or if it was because he sought to murder her.

This is a question? Guy empties a shotgun through a locked bathroom door because he's defending himself? Hell, he should be tried for murder if it WAS an intruder.

Not that this in ANY WAY excuses him, but evidence is emerging that Pistorius was a gun nut who;'d begun having paranoid delusions and acting very irrationally before the shooting .  My personal guess is that he was juicing and whoever was giving him the roids didn't know enough to alter the dosage for his decreased body mass and so he had enough in him to induce a steroid psychosis


You, know, I have thought the same thing. He killed her, of course, but it doesn't seem that he planned to.
 
2014-05-06 01:46:28 PM
I also love the free advertising Black Talon ammunition is getting as part of this.  They got about fifteen mentions in that article alone.

/Black Talon
 
2014-05-06 01:57:28 PM

The whole Pistorius thing is ridiculous theatre. I just caught this in another article:

Oscar Pistorius was accused of making a "sinister" remark to a friend of Reeva Steenkamp in the courtroom Tuesday during a break at his murder trial.

Pistorius denied the allegation that he said to the close friend of the girlfriend he killed: "How can you sleep at night?"

...

Myers was approached by Pistorius and he made the remark to her in a "very sinister way," the lawyer for Myers told The Associated Press. Attorney Ian Levitt said Myers was "shocked" and did not know what it referred to. Levitt said she found it "extremely disturbing."
Emphasis mine.

Maybe it's my lack of imagination, but how does one ask that question in a sinister way?
 
2014-05-06 01:58:09 PM

cretinbob: But it's not the U.S., so get over yourself, Snowflake.


But it's a valid point, that was some shiatty cross examination, and a lot wasn't relevant to the actual trial. There's no question that the dude is lying. His story IS too ridiculous to be true, that doesn't mean that the prosecutor wasn't acting extremely unprofessionally.
 
2014-05-06 02:00:48 PM

LazyMedia: This is a question? Guy empties a shotgun through a locked bathroom door because he's defending himself?


"LazyMedia" is a pretty fitting fark handle. It was a freaking pistol, not a shotgun.

But as to your 'even if it WAS an intruder' bullshiat, you break into someone's house in the middle of the night, you take the chance of getting your ass handed to you.
 
2014-05-06 02:02:26 PM
Who knew University of Phoenix offered a GED in South African law?  How many credit hours is it subby?
 
2014-05-06 02:06:31 PM

Mikey1969: LazyMedia: This is a question? Guy empties a shotgun through a locked bathroom door because he's defending himself?

"LazyMedia" is a pretty fitting fark handle. It was a freaking pistol, not a shotgun.

But as to your 'even if it WAS an intruder' bullshiat, you break into someone's house in the middle of the night, you take the chance of getting your ass handed to you.


He was in the bedroom, she was in the locked bathroom, so that would normally throw out caution flags at the start...

But I have seen, from a variety of other sources, that it's very common to have your house broken into by gangs of people who will rob, rape, murder you just due to you being white, so if he's already jumpy...

Plus, if he'd taken anything like ambien, there's no telling what you can do and not remember a damned thing...

Remember, South Africa is NOT like anywhere you might know here in America... Ever since Apartheid was booted about 20 years ago, it's turned into an utter shiathole...
 
2014-05-06 02:08:03 PM

cretinbob: But it's not the U.S., so get over yourself, Snowflake.


They have different rules for everything there! It's like a whole nother country!
 
2014-05-06 02:14:24 PM

Mikey1969: cretinbob: But it's not the U.S., so get over yourself, Snowflake.

But it's a valid point, that was some shiatty cross examination, and a lot wasn't relevant to the actual trial. There's no question that the dude is lying. His story IS too ridiculous to be true, that doesn't mean that the prosecutor wasn't acting extremely unprofessionally.


I guess my point is, why is it OK for a defense attorney to behave that way then?
 
2014-05-06 02:18:36 PM

Arcturus72: Mikey1969: LazyMedia: This is a question? Guy empties a shotgun through a locked bathroom door because he's defending himself?

"LazyMedia" is a pretty fitting fark handle. It was a freaking pistol, not a shotgun.

But as to your 'even if it WAS an intruder' bullshiat, you break into someone's house in the middle of the night, you take the chance of getting your ass handed to you.

He was in the bedroom, she was in the locked bathroom, so that would normally throw out caution flags at the start...

But I have seen, from a variety of other sources, that it's very common to have your house broken into by gangs of people who will rob, rape, murder you just due to you being white, so if he's already jumpy...

Plus, if he'd taken anything like ambien, there's no telling what you can do and not remember a damned thing...

Remember, South Africa is NOT like anywhere you might know here in America... Ever since Apartheid was booted about 20 years ago, it's turned into an utter shiathole...


Cliven is that you?
 
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