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2014-05-06 11:42:49 AM
Obama Biographer: 'The World Seems to Disappoint Him'

If the world doesn't disappoint you, you are a farking sociopath
 
2014-05-06 12:01:50 PM
FTA: But that hasn't kept Remnick from souring on Obama. "Do I think that at the end of eight years this will go down as a terrible presidency? I don't. You do. I don't. I think an enormous amount has been achieved."

Does the word "souring" mean something different to the Weekly Standard, because that quote seems quite supportive.
 
2014-05-06 12:13:58 PM
The world certainly makes me want to beat my skull into concrete. Only in America does a complete legislative standstill by the GOP make people angry at the Democrats.

Oh I forgot, Obama is supposed to start a war with Russia and personally fix federal laws. *facepalm*
 
2014-05-06 12:15:25 PM
For the world to not disappoint you, it must satisfy you. For the world to satisfy you, it must be free of any significant problems. I'm disappointed in the world. I'm also disappointed in humanity. I also have a tremendous amount of faith and hope for both.
 
2014-05-06 12:49:30 PM
I think this shows a dangerous level of naivete by Obama here.  He somehow expected the world to get its act together ... because why?  He is now president?

Also, the world wasn't some amazing place and then he became president and it turned its back on him.  What did he expect?  It was magically going to straighten itself out?  Its his job to adjust to the world as it is, plan for the worst, hope for the best; not for the rest of the world to adapt to Obama.

Finally, he has to take responsibility for his actions.  If he is unsuccessful at something, saying the world let you down is just an unwillingness to take your own responsibility.  I mean, you want to talk sociopathic?  "It is the rest of the world's fault."  The only person not at fault is Obama if something doesn't go the way he wants to go.  "The whole world has let him down."  So it is *everyone's* fault except Obama.  That's sociopathic.  That's the messiah true to form.

This attitude goes a long way to explaining Obama's failures.

The rest of the world doesn't believe that Obama's solutions are the right ones.  The same people that are disappointed in the rest of the world - well I am disappointed in their so-called solutions for the rest of the world.  Some of them just aren't that farking good and will lead to more misery and poverty and war than we already have and they are just too naive or idealistic to figure that out yet.  And that disappoints me.
 
2014-05-06 01:11:48 PM

SlothB77: This attitude goes a long way to explaining Obama's failures.


Could you enumerate some of those failures beyond "passing legislation I don't like" and "not being able to work around  the most obstructionist Congress in US history?"
 
2014-05-06 01:12:53 PM
"The World" is not a useful collective adjective
 
2014-05-06 01:12:58 PM
The world only wouldn't disappoint you if you didn't have at least half a brain or half a heart.
 
2014-05-06 01:13:44 PM

SlothB77: "The whole world has let him down." So it is *everyone's* fault except Obama. That's sociopathic. That's the messiah true to form.


memeorama.com
 
2014-05-06 01:14:39 PM

SlothB77: Finally, he has to take responsibility for his actions. If he is unsuccessful at something, saying the world let you down is just an unwillingness to take your own responsibility.


So then Republicans are 100% to blame for not repealing Obamacare and for the deficit being what it is today right?
 
2014-05-06 01:14:39 PM
img.fark.net
 
2014-05-06 01:16:03 PM

SlothB77: he has to take responsibility for his actions


He elected the war-mongering, do-nothing, corporate greed Congress.

He started the war in Ukraine and the NSA program.

He told the Kochs to buy the GOP and run local territories into the ground.

He made that website that was faulty for two months.

He crashed the economy.

He told Gorbachev to tear down that wall.

He provoked Japan to attack us in the 1940's.

Everything's Obama's fault. He is the evil tyrant today where everything is on him. Right?

I understand how Obama could be frustrated by the current outlook of things. Look at all the people senselessly standing in his way, offering no positive alternatives to the growth he's trying to promote. Look at all the doublespeak and whargarbll from his detractors. It's all a mess, but it's definitely not all his fault.
 
2014-05-06 01:18:20 PM
Speaking of presidential biographies has anyone heard how George W. Bush is doing trying to suppress that unauthorized autobiography?
 
2014-05-06 01:19:46 PM

Lionel Mandrake: Obama Biographer: 'The World Seems to Disappoint Him'

If the world doesn't disappoint you, you are a farking sociopath


I'd like to interject.  In spite of the strenuous efforts of republicans, and other ideological conservatives of other stripes around the world, conditions are mostly improving.  World-wide violence, scientific understanding, literacy, death rates, and slavery rates have all undergone massive improvements.  Birth rates in the third world are beginning to drop.  People are doing pretty well.
 
2014-05-06 01:23:29 PM

Bloody William: For the world to not disappoint you, it must satisfy you. For the world to satisfy you, it must be free of any significant problems. I'm disappointed in the world. I'm also disappointed in humanity. I also have a tremendous amount of faith and hope for both.


"Ernest Hemingway once wrote, 'The world is a fine place and worth fighting for.' I agree with the second part."

- Detective Somerset from the film "Seven"
 
2014-05-06 01:25:58 PM

Lionel Mandrake: Obama Biographer: 'The World Seems to Disappoint Him'

If the world doesn't disappoint you, you are a farking sociopath


Indeed.  The world disappoints me as well and I'm not even in a position to do anything about it.
 
2014-05-06 01:28:38 PM

SlothB77: That's the messiah true to form.


This is a sure fire way to get lots of hits on your trolling concerned trash. You could have found a way to throw in peace prize for extra points.
 
2014-05-06 01:30:01 PM

Lost Thought 00: "The World" is not a useful collective adjective


Obama's policies are very popular on Alpha Centauri 3.
 
2014-05-06 01:31:08 PM
Uh fartbongo flib flobs n0bummrrcare agenda 21 bengarbanzobeans

I got nothing. Complete trolling failure
 
2014-05-06 01:33:13 PM

Muta: Lost Thought 00: "The World" is not a useful collective adjective

Obama's policies are very popular on Alpha Centauri 3.


THIS IS CETA ALPHA V!
 
2014-05-06 01:33:19 PM

Triple Oak: It's all a mess, but it's definitely not all his fault.


TFA says nothing is his fault.  When you are commander in chief, the responsibility ultimately falls on you.  If the attitude of our president is nothing is his fault, its the world's fault instead, then you have a person unwilling to face reality.

The cover story from this week's Economist paints the picture starkly:

Each situation is different, but in the echo-chamber of global politics they reinforce each other. The Asians note that in 1994, in exchange for surrendering nuclear weapons, Ukraine received a guarantee from Russia, America and Britain that its borders were safe. The Baltic countries remember the red lines crossed in Syria. Arab princes and Chinese ambassadors count the Republican senators embracing isolationism. Together, these retreats plant a nagging suspicion among friends and foes that on the big day America simply might not turn up.

Admittedly, deterrence always has some element of doubt. Between the certainty that any president will defend America's own territory and the strong belief that America would not fight Russia over Ukraine lies an infinite combination of possibilities. A lot depends on how each incident unfolds. But doubt has spread quickly in that middle ground-and it risks making the world a more dangerous, nastier place.

Already, regional powers are keener to dominate their neighbours. China is pressing its territorial claims more aggressively, Russia interfering more brazenly. In 2013 Asia outspent Europe on arms for the first time-a sign that countries calculate they will have to stand up for themselves. If Mr Obama cannot forge a deal with Iran, the nightmare of nuclear proliferation awaits the Middle East. Crucially, doubt feeds on itself. If next door is arming and the superpower may not send gunboats, then you had better arm, too. For every leader deploring Mr Putin's tactics, another is studying how to copy them.

Such mind games in the badlands of eastern Ukraine and the South China Sea may feel far away from Toledo or Turin. But the West will also end up paying dearly for the fraying of the global order.
International norms, such as freedom of navigation, will be weakened. Majorities will feel freer to abuse minorities, who in turn may flee. Global public goods, such as free trade and lower cross-border pollution, will be harder to sustain. Global institutions will be less pliable. Americans understandably chafe at the ingratitude of a world that freeloads on the economic, diplomatic and military might of the United States. But Americans themselves also enjoy the exorbitant privilege of operating in a system that, broadly, suits them.

The critics who pin all the blame on Mr Obama are wrong. It was not he who sent troops into the credibility-sapping streets of Baghdad. More important, America could never sustain the extraordinary heights of global dominance it attained with the collapse of the Soviet Union. As China grew into a giant, it was bound to want a greater say. And the president has often made the right call: nobody thinks he should have sent troops to Crimea, despite the breaking of the 1994 agreement.

Yet Mr Obama has still made a difficult situation worse in two ways. First, he has broken the cardinal rule of superpower deterrence: you must keep your word. In Syria he drew "a red line": he would punish Bashar Assad if he used chemical weapons. The Syrian dictator did, and Mr Obama did nothing. In response to Russia's aggression, he threatened fierce sanctions, only to unveil underwhelming ones. He had his reasons: Britain let him down on Syria, Europe needs Russian gas, Congress is nervous. But the cumulative message is weakness.


This is the world that Obama has created.  He is running an America that is less interventionist, more withdrawn from the rest of the world.  He is delegating more responsibility to coalitions and international bodies.  And that power vacuum is being filled by the likes of Putin and Assad.  He is managing America's decline.  When you try to lead from behind, what ends up happening is someone else comes along and leads from the front instead.
 
2014-05-06 01:33:56 PM
Lionel Mandrake: Obama Biographer: 'The World Seems to Disappoint Him'

If the world doesn't disappoint you, you are a farking sociopath.


THIS times a google.
 
2014-05-06 01:38:22 PM

browneye: Lionel Mandrake: Obama Biographer: 'The World Seems to Disappoint Him'

If the world doesn't disappoint you, you are a farking sociopath.

THIS times a google.


THIS times an American multinational corporation specializing in Internet-related services and products?


ohhhhhhh, googol.
 
2014-05-06 01:39:13 PM

SlothB77: He is running an America that is less interventionist, more withdrawn from the rest of the world.


It's almost as if he was elected on that premise, due to previous misadventures that killed a lot of people and spent a lot of money...

SlothB77: And that power vacuum is being filled by the likes of Putin and Assad.


I wonder why? Putin's invasion of Georgia was Reagan smashed down by Bush Jr so hard he should have learned his lesson

SlothB77: He is managing America's decline. When you try to lead from behind, what ends up happening is someone else comes along and leads from the front instead.


Anything that isn't rushing in to new wars left and right is a decline apparently. But only as long as you're the one not doing the real fighting or paying the bills.
 
2014-05-06 01:39:22 PM

Lionel Mandrake: Obama Biographer: 'The World Seems to Disappoint Him'

If the world doesn't disappoint you, you are a farking sociopath


browneye: THIS times a google.


Seconded.
 
2014-05-06 01:39:30 PM

Doktor_Zhivago: Uh fartbongo flib flobs n0bummrrcare agenda 21 bengarbanzobeans

I got nothing. Complete trolling failure

You're still doing better than Sloth.....
 
2014-05-06 01:40:01 PM

SlothB77: First, he has broken the cardinal rule of superpower deterrence: you must keep your word. In Syria he drew "a red line": he would punish Bashar Assad if he used chemical weapons. The Syrian dictator did, and Mr Obama did nothing. In response to Russia's aggression, he threatened fierce sanctions, only to unveil underwhelming ones. He had his reasons: Britain let him down on Syria, Europe needs Russian gas, Congress is nervous. But the cumulative message is weakness.


In other words, lies.  1) Syria is being disarmed of chemical weapons and 2) the sanctions are appropriate and can be increased if necessary.  Obama's actions are only seen as weak if you think the US should get involved in wars every time something happens that we disagree with.
 
2014-05-06 01:40:40 PM
When you try to lead from behind, what ends up happening is someone else comes along and leads from the front instead.

And that's why generals always ALWAYS form the fighting front of an army.

/idiot
 
2014-05-06 01:42:43 PM
Because nothing is ever his fault.
 
2014-05-06 01:43:25 PM

nmrsnr: FTA: But that hasn't kept Remnick from souring on Obama. "Do I think that at the end of eight years this will go down as a terrible presidency? I don't. You do. I don't. I think an enormous amount has been achieved."

Does the word "souring" mean something different to the Weekly Standard, because that quote seems quite supportive.


Oh sure, you can't refute the message so you attack the messenger for clearly being unable to interpret the data their message is based on. Classic lib dodge.
 
2014-05-06 01:44:58 PM

SlothB77: TFA says nothing is his fault. When you are commander in chief, the responsibility ultimately falls on you. If the attitude of our president is nothing is his fault, its the world's fault instead, then you have a person unwilling to face reality.


sorry where did Obama say nothing is his fault again? I missed that.
 
2014-05-06 01:47:14 PM

Best Princess Celestia: Because nothing is ever his fault.


Name three negative events or consequences that are Obama's fault and what he could have done differently to avoid them.
 
2014-05-06 01:47:39 PM
Lionel Mandrake: Obama Biographer: 'The World Seems to Disappoint Him'

If the world doesn't disappoint you, you are a farking sociopath.

THIS times a google.

THIS times an American multinational corporation specializing in Internet-related services and products?


ohhhhhhh, googol.


Oops.  I honestly thought googol was spelled the same as the American multinational corporation specializing in Internet-related services and products (I figured that's the reason they called themselves Google).  My bad.
 
2014-05-06 01:48:12 PM
Turn on my VCR, same one I've had for years...
 
2014-05-06 01:50:40 PM

salvador.hardin: Best Princess Celestia: Because nothing is ever his fault.

Name three negative events or consequences that are Obama's fault and what he could have done differently to avoid them.


WWII - Killed Hitler when he had the chance
WWI - Better protected Archduke Ferdinand
Original Sin - Kept Eve from eating that damn apple
 
2014-05-06 01:51:42 PM

salvador.hardin: Best Princess Celestia: Because nothing is ever his fault.

Name three negative events or consequences that are Obama's fault and what he could have done differently to avoid them.


1) Obama should have prosecuted the war criminals from the previous administration.
2) Obama should have prosecuted the criminals on Wall Street that caused financial collapse.
3) Obama should have dropped trow and wiggled his wang at Romney.
 
2014-05-06 01:52:12 PM

SlothB77: He is running an America that is less interventionist, more withdrawn from the rest of the world.


Oh is it the week that he does nothing now?

Funny I remember the times where Republicans said he should be impeached for doing too much:

 Huckabee Suggests Obama Should Be Impeached Over Libya Incident

The growing case for impeachment of Obama

I see so if he doesn't use military power unilaterally he is horrible and if he does it's impeachable. Right?
 
2014-05-06 01:53:03 PM
It's more to do with his personality. The guy is an idealist and believes everybody should try to do good things. That's why he became President.

Now he's had years of having his best efforts blocked by lying, cynical, disingenuous, power-hungry opportunists who are basically the opposite of what he thinks people should be. They seem to control the world and nobody can stop them.

No wonder he's disappointed.
 
2014-05-06 01:53:57 PM

SlothB77: Triple Oak: It's all a mess, but it's definitely not all his fault.

TFA says nothing is his fault.


But yet you seem to be whargarblling that it's all his fault. World's not that black and white, junior. Good for the author of this opinion piece to think that nothing's his fault, doesn't make him right. To say it all falls on him is also completely wrong. Your last paragraph says that this world is Obama's creation. You go ahead and hold him on your little echoing pedestal, but you're not right. Thanks for expressing your opinion, I guess. I'm glad you're concerned enough to do nothing about it.
 
2014-05-06 01:54:25 PM

Muta: 1) Obama should have prosecuted the war criminals from the previous administration.
2) Obama should have prosecuted the criminals on Wall Street that caused financial collapse.
3) Obama should have dropped trow and wiggled his wang at Romney.


I give you 1 but 2 is somewhat a bad rap. The laws are cooked so you can't do criminal charges against them. And when the company settles they make it so criminal charges can't be pursued.

They actually have tried but the system is rigged so that it's very hard to put criminal charges against these people.
 
2014-05-06 01:54:37 PM

Muta: SlothB77: First, he has broken the cardinal rule of superpower deterrence: you must keep your word. In Syria he drew "a red line": he would punish Bashar Assad if he used chemical weapons. The Syrian dictator did, and Mr Obama did nothing. In response to Russia's aggression, he threatened fierce sanctions, only to unveil underwhelming ones. He had his reasons: Britain let him down on Syria, Europe needs Russian gas, Congress is nervous. But the cumulative message is weakness.

In other words, lies.  1) Syria is being disarmed of chemical weapons and 2) the sanctions are appropriate and can be increased if necessary.  Obama's actions are only seen as weak if you think the US should get involved in wars every time something happens that we disagree with.


Obama did make one mistake in regards with Syria-using the term "red line" capriciously.  That is, not attacking Syria wasn't the mistake; saying we definitely were going to attack Syria if they used chemical weapons was the mistake.  I'm sure he thought there was no chance Syria would actually use them and that he would never have to back up his promise, or he simply chickened out at the last minute.  But when you use firm words like that, you have to back them up with action.

His policies on the Ukrainian situation are completely appropriate, IMHO.  We were never going to get into a shooting war with Russia over it.  As for the sanctions against Russia, they are coming in stages (as opposed to all at once) as a tactical move, and, contrary to Obama's critics, are having actual effects to Russia's economy.  Whether they actually have any effect remains to be seen; Russia is used to getting it's way in things like this and is large and powerful enough to take the hit.
 
2014-05-06 01:55:23 PM

salvador.hardin: Best Princess Celestia: Because nothing is ever his fault.

Name three negative events or consequences that are Obama's fault and what he could have done differently to avoid them.


1) Event (multiple)-> Saying that you can keep your Doctor / insurance when he knew full well that this was untrue. Consequence-> was that some people lost coverage. Due to political heat, he was forced to try and correct it.

2) Event (ongoing)-> Dithering on the Keystone pipeline. Consequence-> Kill or allow.

3) Event/consequence (campaign)->Promising, and then failing to close Gitmo.
 
2014-05-06 01:56:05 PM

salvador.hardin: Best Princess Celestia: Because nothing is ever his fault.

Name three negative events or consequences that are Obama's fault and what he could have done differently to avoid them.


He could have been a rich white conservative.

/Duh
 
2014-05-06 01:56:46 PM
SlothB77: things

As we've seen with Iraq and Afghanistan, engaging in war every time someone looks at you funny is not a sound foreign policy.
 
2014-05-06 01:56:56 PM

Destructor: Consequence-> Kill or allow.


Oops, that's a bad consequence. Should really say, "creating uncertainty. He should either kill or allow."
 
2014-05-06 01:57:14 PM
Only fair since he's been letting the American people down since his election.
 
2014-05-06 01:59:52 PM

bdub77: The world certainly makes me want to beat my skull into concrete. Only in America does a complete legislative standstill by the GOP make people angry at the Democrats.

Oh I forgot, Obama is supposed to start a war with Russia and personally fix federal laws. *facepalm*


So that Republicans can call him a dictator.  Precisely!

browneye: Oops.  I honestly thought googol was spelled the same as the American multinational corporation specializing in Internet-related services and products (I figured that's the reason they called themselves Google).  My bad.


A misspelling is easier to brand, like Flickr from flicker.  Their mistake was that googol is too uncommon of a word; but then, only geeks surfed the web back in 1998.
 
2014-05-06 02:00:16 PM

Best Princess Celestia: Because nothing is ever his fault.

www.hollyscoop.com
 
2014-05-06 02:01:23 PM
img.fark.net
 
2014-05-06 02:02:54 PM

happydude45: Only fair since he's been letting the American people down since his election.

Kind of like the way you've been disappointing your mother and father since you learned to "speak"
 
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