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(Vital Football)   British Football Association considers allowing 'B' teams into the top league. For you Americans, that's as ridiculous as allowing teams from Phoenix or Winnipeg to play in the NHL. What?   ( divider line
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2014-05-06 01:50:27 PM  
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The easiest way I can translate this into American sports terms is as follows:

Many of the European soccer teams have what is essentially a JV team -- a second team of players.  "Farm team" isn't quite the right word because they're really part of the same team, wear the same colors, play in the same stadium, etc.  But they're definitely not the main team.  It might be guys who are young & developing, or rehabbing, or whatever.

What this would do is allow teams to have their JV team play at one of the lower levels of the game -- like a minor-league level, per the promotion/relegation system.

Right now, you just have teams whose 'A' team is simply only good enough to be in, say, League Two, like a side I follow, Burton Albion (I'm a Milwaukee Brewers fan, and Burton Albion is also nicknamed the Brewers, so their results occasionally come across the #brewers hashtag).  So you might have Burton Albion playing Chelsea B.

This 'B' team would be treated like any other team in that it could win and get promoted, or lose and get demoted, or whatever.  But, by rule, such a team can't get promoted into the same league as the 'A' team because you don't want a club essentially playing itself in a match that counts.

Where this has an impact is in the "loan" system.  Because clubs don't have these B teams right now, you have the situation outlined upthread where teams will "loan" a player to another, lower-level side if he's not playing much or whatever.  Allow teams to have B teams, however, and that's far less likely to happen.  It really helps the big clubs and it hurts the lower-level ones.
2014-05-06 12:29:06 PM  
1 vote:

SlothB77: I know what the Premier League is and I know what relegation is, but I have no idea what anything in the article means.  WTF is Conference?

Okay. The names of different leagues can get pretty confusing further on down a national pyramid. Really, so can the names of top-level leagues, but aside from the biggies like the Premier League, Serie A, MLS, Ligue 1, La Liga, Bundesliga, J-League, generally you can just get by by saying the name of the country and the fact that it's the top level.

In England, it all looks like this:

*The top tier is, as you know, called the Premier League.
*The second tier is the Championship.
*The third tier is called League One.
*The fourth tier is called League Two. These top four tiers are collectively referred to as the Football League, as they're all overseen by a particular governing body that just handles the professional ranks, which extends to here.
*The Conference is the fifth tier. At this level and below, you start seeing semi-pro and amateur teams, and everything on down is called 'non-league'.
*The sixth tier has two different leagues in it, Conference North and Conference South. At this level and below, there are multiple regional leagues on each tier, as clubs are no longer expected to have the financial wherewithal to be able to travel the length of the country at will. Clubs get shuffled between leagues so as to keep them regional.
*The seventh tier- you'll never really hear any news out of this area except when it's FA Cup time- has three leagues, the Northern Premier League, the Isthmian League, and the Southern League.
*The eighth tier has two regional leagues for each of the three leagues on the seventh tier, making for six leagues at this level. (As there are a lot of little sub-leagues of a couple tiers each, with one feeding into the next.)
*The ninth tier has 14 different leagues in it.
*The 10th tier has 17 leagues. This is generally the lowest level at which you'll see clubs enter the FA Cup.
*The 11th tier has 42 leagues.
*The 12th tier has 61 leagues.
*The 13th tier has 68 leagues.
*The 14th tier has 83 leagues.
*The 15th tier has 77 leagues; at this level the league count starts thinning out as sections of the country start running low on players who want to play at a club in the pyramid system.
*The 16th tier has 56 leagues.
*The 17th tier has 48 leagues.
*The 18th tier has 25 leagues.
*The 19th tier has 20 leagues.
*The 20th tier has 9 leagues.
*The 21st tier has 6 leagues, including England's lowest-tiered 'top division', the Bristol and Avon League.
*The 22nd tier has two leagues, Bristol and Avon's second division as well as the lowest division of the Mid-Sussex Football League.
*The 23rd and 24th tiers may or may not contain lower divisions of Bristol and Avon, as there's a little confusion as to how many divisions they actually have.
2014-05-06 12:12:09 PM  
1 vote:
If it wasn't for professional sports in Phoenix, the major sports league in the US would have to play a lot more games in Detroit.

We play to serve.
2014-05-06 12:07:05 PM  
1 vote:

rickythepenguin: hockey is pretty fun to watch but i'm not a fan.

whenever phoenix gets bashed as a hockey town, we always kinda wonder how different the franchise's fortune would have been had they built the stadium in Scottsdale at the old Los Arcos (ok, now it is the "Windsong" or whatever, which is still not really doing anything last i checked).....3-5 minutes from the 202, maybe 5 from the 101, maybe, ehhhhhhh, 15 at most from "downtown" phoenix.....glendale is just so farking far.  i know a few east valley hockey fans that won't go to games on "school nights".  had they built it there, you'd have the entire east valley in your ass pocket.

doesn't matter now but, yeah, scottsdale in the mid-late 90s said, "we don't want your stupid hockey team!  We're gonna build our own thing!"  they built a farking dirt lot that stood up until about 2-4 years ago (Windsong or Skysong or Sunsong, what the fark) and still isn't doing a whole lot.

congratulations scottsdale, in saying 'no' to 15+ years of game related revenue (restaraunts, parking, sales tax, second level real estate investment), you reaped 15 years of ZERO.

But at least they get 100% of ZERO.
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