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(Some Guy)   More than two-thirds of people have gone to work when they are sick, even the ones who don't hate their coworkers and spend their breaks licking stuff in the employee fridge   (employeebenefits.co.uk) divider line 45
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2014-05-06 10:28:10 AM
Reasons to go to work sick:

1. You have a job where you can't just call in sick at the last minute, but you just woke up sick.
2. You don't get sick time and you need the money to pay your bills. (May want to plan better.)
3. "Work" consists of sitting in a cube in a quiet office all day while staying home would mean dealing with hyper kids and a nagging wife.

/Not that I would know anything about that last one.
 
2014-05-06 10:29:41 AM
Is that surprising in this day and age?  You don't get ahead by calling in sick when the wind blows.  I've gone into work throwing up in my trash can.  I'd rather have them see me ill and send me home than call in sick.  It's bad enough my company doesn't have personal days to allow for having to stay home for a sick kid, so there's no way I'm calling in sick unless I'm in a hospital.
 
2014-05-06 10:40:00 AM
I have an unlimited amount of sick days, as far as I know.  It might even be legally mandated (but I'm not sure how that works).

Even still, people still show up sick.

I honestly think it has a lot less to do with pressure from the company than individuals choosing to show up.  A lot of people have a martyr complex.  'Oh, I'm sick!  My nose is running!  I have a fever!  But *I* can't just stay in bed.  I *have* to go to work!'.  Then you've got the stubborn guy who refuses to admit he even is sick.  'I'm fine!  I can go to work!'
 
2014-05-06 10:46:22 AM
I had a boss that was trying to fire me so he would be a stickler for the rules for me but not his BFF that missed 14 days in a month. I had the flu and he told me that I would need a doctors note after 2 days. But I rarely if ever take any days off, I was always on time, did my work and went home. I had insurance but didnt want to waste the money for the doctor to tell me I was sick. So I went in and just did my work at a slower pace and being sick kept everyone away from me. So it wasnt that bad.
 
2014-05-06 10:49:49 AM
The problem I have is that our team has been whittled down so far, there is no one left to do my job if I'm not at work.  That means that when I come back I have a mountain of work waiting for me and customers screaming at me about why I haven't responded or why they haven't received the items they've requested.  Of course they knew they needed those things three weeks ago and just left a voicemail the day I was out sick saying they need it that day, but that's another topic.  My boss is not help because he doesn't care that I wasn't there and was generally incapacitated.  We have to serve the customer dammit!

If I call out sick, I get paid, but then I get my ass kicked the next day from both customer and management, all while trying to do double the work...

So, I rarely call out sick.
 
2014-05-06 10:59:07 AM

GameSprocket: Reasons to go to work sick:

1. You have a job where you can't just call in sick at the last minute, but you just woke up sick.
2. You don't get sick time and you need the money to pay your bills. (May want to plan better.)
3. "Work" consists of sitting in a cube in a quiet office all day while staying home would mean dealing with hyper kids and a nagging wife.

/Not that I would know anything about that last one.


#3 deserves a lot of credit. Sometimes I feel like my workday doesn't even start until i come home. 6pm to 930pm takes 3x more energy and effort than 8am-6pm

/father of very rambunctious 4year old and, luckily, a fairly chill 2year old.
 
2014-05-06 11:02:13 AM

Fark_Guy_Rob: I have an unlimited amount of sick days, as far as I know.  It might even be legally mandated (but I'm not sure how that works).

Even still, people still show up sick.

I honestly think it has a lot less to do with pressure from the company than individuals choosing to show up.  A lot of people have a martyr complex.  'Oh, I'm sick!  My nose is running!  I have a fever!  But *I* can't just stay in bed.  I *have* to go to work!'.  Then you've got the stubborn guy who refuses to admit he even is sick.  'I'm fine!  I can go to work!'


Actually taking responsibility for your obligations ftw.

Many professional jobs have unlimited sick days, but there is still a certain amount of work to be done and if you are out sick you will have to work harder when you get back to make up for it and/or force others to pick up your slack.  So people tend to not call in sick unless they are actually sick enough that it will significantly adversely affect their ability to work.
 
2014-05-06 11:05:42 AM

Fark_Guy_Rob: I have an unlimited amount of sick days, as far as I know.  It might even be legally mandated (but I'm not sure how that works).

Even still, people still show up sick.

I honestly think it has a lot less to do with pressure from the company than individuals choosing to show up.  A lot of people have a martyr complex.  'Oh, I'm sick!  My nose is running!  I have a fever!  But *I* can't just stay in bed.  I *have* to go to work!'.  Then you've got the stubborn guy who refuses to admit he even is sick.  'I'm fine!  I can go to work!'


In the US, at the national level, there are no laws mandating paid sick time. We have FMLA but it's not required to be paid. There may be some state laws that cover it but those would be very few, if any. We are so behind the rest of the first world in this regard it's not even funny.
 
2014-05-06 11:09:15 AM
I have no idea what you are talking about.

/Sitting at work now.
//With Norovirus.

Have spent more time in the bathroom than I have at my desk today. But they told me that if I call in, EVEN IF I AM IN THE FARKING HOSPITAL, it will be the end of my job.

I hope every single person over in this department gets sick. I really do.
 
2014-05-06 11:19:33 AM
here's my thought: when you're at work, you're miserable.  when you're sick, you're miserable.  what's the difference?

/ might as well be sick at work and use the day off when you're healthy
 
2014-05-06 11:26:39 AM
it doesn't really specify what they meant by sick. I currently have a mild cold and i'm at work. its just a slight runny nose and i work in a cubicle. that said, the last time i got the 24 hour bug and i was puking everywhere, you can bet i called in.

also, does this count work from home? because i've worked from home while sick a fair amount. If its just a moderate cold that i don't want to spread, but it doesn't effect my ability to sit at my computer and type. i can work from home. best of both worlds really- i don't spread the illness and the company doesn't have to worry about re-assigning work or being shorthanded
 
2014-05-06 11:33:08 AM
People who purposely show up for work sick are terrible people. Nobody wants your diseases, you should be fired. People who force their employees to show up sick are even worse, you should be summarily executed.
 
2014-05-06 11:35:43 AM
I go to work every day with a mild to severe case of malt fever.
 
2014-05-06 11:54:31 AM
My company offers paid sick leave, but pays out a bonus at the end of the year if people don't use the sick days...but only for non-exempt employees, while exempt employees get three times as many sick days, but aren't paid a bonus for non-use.

This created a perverse incentive for hourly employees - generally in lower-paid positions, like the admins, technicians, etc. - to come in sick because they want to maximize the bonus, but in the process they get salaries employees sick, who, given they do not get paid such a bonus, end up using the sick leave.

From a business point of view it makes no sense to me.
 
2014-05-06 12:13:59 PM

Shadow Blasko: I have no idea what you are talking about.

/Sitting at work now.
//With Norovirus.

Have spent more time in the bathroom than I have at my desk today. But they told me that if I call in, EVEN IF I AM IN THE FARKING HOSPITAL, it will be the end of my job.

I hope every single person over in this department gets sick. I really do.


So they fire people who break limbs, get into car accidents and have heart attacks? Yikes. Time to polish your resume, man.
 
2014-05-06 12:21:06 PM

Debeo Summa Credo: Fark_Guy_Rob: I have an unlimited amount of sick days, as far as I know.  It might even be legally mandated (but I'm not sure how that works).

Even still, people still show up sick.

I honestly think it has a lot less to do with pressure from the company than individuals choosing to show up.  A lot of people have a martyr complex.  'Oh, I'm sick!  My nose is running!  I have a fever!  But *I* can't just stay in bed.  I *have* to go to work!'.  Then you've got the stubborn guy who refuses to admit he even is sick.  'I'm fine!  I can go to work!'

Actually taking responsibility for your obligations ftw.

Many professional jobs have unlimited sick days, but there is still a certain amount of work to be done and if you are out sick you will have to work harder when you get back to make up for it and/or force others to pick up your slack.  So people tend to not call in sick unless they are actually sick enough that it will significantly adversely affect their ability to work.


Agreed - but there is a *huge* difference between, 'Poor me, I am being FORCED to work while sick....' and 'I'm going to disregard company policy because I'd rather not deal with a backlog of work when I stay home.  So I'll go to work anyway and infect people'.

In the first case, I feel bad for the sick person.  In the second case, I feel bad for the co-workers of said sick person.
 
2014-05-06 12:36:49 PM
I threw my back out on Sunday, and came into work on Monday.

/yeah, it still hurts
//hobbling around like an old man
 
2014-05-06 12:53:08 PM
All the people in my office seem to blow their sick time on their kids when they are sick, so when they are genuinely sick they still come in the office (usually a couple of days after they where home with the sick kid).

/annoying
 
2014-05-06 01:03:43 PM
I get Paid Time Off.  I can use it for sick days, vacation what ever. I accumale a few hour every week.  I think I have 2 farking days in my account. You think I'm going to burm 8 of those hours becasue I'm sick? Fark that. I'll come into work and sleep at my desk. I'm not wasting my PTO on being sick.
 
2014-05-06 01:09:46 PM
I'm a contractor. If I take a day sick, I don't get paid. I'm showing up unless I'm missing limbs.
 
2014-05-06 01:17:42 PM

LucklessWonder: I'm a contractor. If I take a day sick, I don't get paid. I'm showing up unless I'm missing limbs.


This ^

In fact, I am doing it right now and getting a kick...
 
2014-05-06 01:18:24 PM
I don't think I've ever had a job where there wasn't paid sick leave. Oh wait... it's legislated. Facepalm
 
2014-05-06 01:39:08 PM
No work means no pay in the United States of Avarice, so you take some cold medicine and go in even if you feel like you are dying. That is what it takes to survive for a wage slave.
 
2014-05-06 01:55:45 PM

macdaddy357: No work means no pay in the United States of Avarice, so you take some cold medicine and go in even if you feel like you are dying. That is what it takes to survive for a wage slave.


Boo hoo.  You say 'no work means no pay' as if its a bad thing.  You get paid to work.  Not to sit home and watch the price is right.
 
2014-05-06 02:20:55 PM

Debeo Summa Credo: macdaddy357: No work means no pay in the United States of Avarice, so you take some cold medicine and go in even if you feel like you are dying. That is what it takes to survive for a wage slave.

Boo hoo.  You say 'no work means no pay' as if its a bad thing.  You get paid to work.  Not to sit home and watch the price is right.


You are the asshole that makes everybody else in the office sick. And bosses that don't give sick time are even worse.
 
2014-05-06 02:28:03 PM

max_pooper: I go to work every day with a mild to severe case of malt fever.


That beats having Colombian flu.
 
2014-05-06 02:29:12 PM

Danger Mouse: I get Paid Time Off.  I can use it for sick days, vacation what ever. I accumale a few hour every week.  I think I have 2 farking days in my account. You think I'm going to burm 8 of those hours becasue I'm sick? Fark that. I'll come into work and sleep at my desk. I'm not wasting my PTO on being sick.


Bingo. PTO means I I'm not taking the day off for no good reason. Sickness? I can type commands while I'm sick. If I'm using PTO, I'm going to be outside, I'm going to be warm, and hopefully there will be some beer involved.
 
2014-05-06 02:39:24 PM
I come to work every day with a severe case of the fark-its. It appears to be very contagious among underpaid workers.
 
2014-05-06 02:48:47 PM
At every job I've ever had, they told you not to come into work sick. At every job I've ever had (except my current one), they penalize you for calling out sick.
 
2014-05-06 03:05:41 PM
This is one of the reasons the 1%ers are pissed at Federal workers. We get generous sick time and are never penalized for taking it. At least at any agency I've worked for, granted I've only Worked for the Federal Reserve and USPS.

Gov workers aren't getting better benefits, it is just our benefits have not been cut so the 1%ers can earn another .05% profit.
 
2014-05-06 03:09:15 PM
This should change the first time we have a real pandemic. Co-workers will be getting real vigilant on anyone who so much as clears their throat.  And I'm farking sick (NPI) of religious people "it's god's will *hack hack*hack*phlegm*hack* if you get sick..."  Hopefully, we'll get a non-fatal outbreak to remind people that their own health is literally in their own hands.
 
2014-05-06 03:29:31 PM

Danger Mouse: I get Paid Time Off.  I can use it for sick days, vacation what ever. I accumale a few hour every week.  I think I have 2 farking days in my account. You think I'm going to burm 8 of those hours becasue I'm sick? Fark that. I'll come into work and sleep at my desk. I'm not wasting my PTO on being sick.


^this.  Unless I really feel like shiat it's not worth wasting PTO to stay home sick.  Take some dayquil, stock up on tissues and drive on.
 
2014-05-06 03:34:05 PM

Thorny4Pie: Is that surprising in this day and age?  You don't get ahead by calling in sick when the wind blows.  I've gone into work throwing up in my trash can.  I'd rather have them see me ill and send me home than call in sick.  It's bad enough my company doesn't have personal days to allow for having to stay home for a sick kid, so there's no way I'm calling in sick unless I'm in a hospital.


Blah blah blah, things are so bad "these" days, because the olden days were just filled with paid sick leave and understanding bosses. *eyeroll*

At my work, if I'm sick, I can just work from home. Or if I really don't feel like working, I can just use some sick time. Same goes if my kid is sick, or any other reason I don't want to be there. The only thing my work expects is that I get my work done on time; where, when, and how that happens really don't matter. And on the off chance I get so sick I literally can't work, they also fully fund both short and long term disability. If I get cancer tomorrow and spend the next 3 years in a hospital bed hooked up to a morphine drip, I get paid the entire time.

Screw you kids and your "everything is so much worse these days" attitude. Your problems are a complete joke compared to the problems of the people who came before you.
 
2014-05-06 03:37:17 PM
I work at a hospital, where they give us a ton of paid sick time.

My first year here, I figured it was because they didn't want us to come in sick, so I called out whenever I was.

At my review I got dinged for taking too many sick days.

>_<
 
2014-05-06 03:44:23 PM

macdaddy357: No work means no pay in the United States of Avarice, so you take some cold medicine and go in even if you feel like you are dying. That is what it takes to survive for a wage slave.


I've lived and I've worked in the US and the EU.  I'm not saying either is better, but honestly, there is very little difference.

In either case, at least where I've lived, 'Wage slaves' (as in hourly workers) would both see a reduction in their pay if they were sick and didn't work two or three days because they were sick.  If it turned into a more serious illness, you'd be better off in the EU - but the converse of that is that when you aren't sick you'd be making more money and paying less in taxes in the US.

Salary workers (wage indentured servants?), at least in the jobs I've had, are pretty much the same.  In the US I had 'PTO' time that my sick time would come from.  Now I have an unlimited amount of sick time; but mandatory visits to the doctor if I'm sick more than two days in a row (and the visit costs me $70 USD or so - and I'm stuck paying that).  In both cases, being sick is generally frowned upon, so if you care about your performance you'll feel obligated not to be sick more than your peers.

Maybe there is a specific country you had in mind - but I don't know of any place where regular non-super-rich people don't have to worry about attending work.
 
2014-05-06 04:40:46 PM

Asako: Danger Mouse: I get Paid Time Off.  I can use it for sick days, vacation what ever. I accumale a few hour every week.  I think I have 2 farking days in my account. You think I'm going to burm 8 of those hours becasue I'm sick? Fark that. I'll come into work and sleep at my desk. I'm not wasting my PTO on being sick.

^this.  Unless I really feel like shiat it's not worth wasting PTO to stay home sick.  Take some dayquil, stock up on tissues and drive on.


Thanks for infecting the rest of us, assholes!  Stay the fark home if you're really sick.
 
2014-05-06 04:46:48 PM
I work for my family, which has it's benefits to be sure.  We, as a group, don't seem to believe in sick days.  So I've had hourly folks come in and get me sick and I've had to come to and get them sick.  Apparently this is how things are done in the real world.  Nobody is ever sick.  Even if your taking a box of Sudafed every 4 hours, you're fine.
 
2014-05-06 07:53:52 PM

GameSprocket: Reasons to go to work sick:

1. You have a job where you can't just call in sick at the last minute, but you just woke up sick.
2. You don't get sick time and you need the money to pay your bills. (May want to plan better.)
3. "Work" consists of sitting in a cube in a quiet office all day while staying home would mean dealing with hyper kids and a nagging wife.

/Not that I would know anything about that last one.


4. Your retarded boss is so worried about people lying to get an unpaid day off that he forces everyone taking sick time to pay (no health insurance there) for a doctor visit or you get in trouble. Of course the rule was poorly and discriminantly enforced. Also records were kept so it could be held against you later if you fell out of favor.

Consequently, I served quite a lot of food with a nasty illness back in the day. Beats staying home, losing 100 bucks, paying 30, and spending half a shift's duration waiting in line at the clinic. I follow cleanliness rules, but some stuff is airborne.
 
2014-05-06 08:43:55 PM

Thorny4Pie: Is that surprising in this day and age?  You don't get ahead by calling in sick when the wind blows.  I've gone into work throwing up in my trash can.  I'd rather have them see me ill and send me home than call in sick.  It's bad enough my company doesn't have personal days to allow for having to stay home for a sick kid, so there's no way I'm calling in sick unless I'm in a hospital.


and believe you me madam, we down at the dirty dollar tuesday afternoon buffet salute you for your efforts.
 
2014-05-07 12:54:04 AM
I was so sick I was barfing up blood.  My company paid a Dr. to give me shots to pep me up enough to survive to help sales close a big deal.  Dr said I would be sick longer and worse afterwards.  2 weeks of misery.  Work paid sick time, I only had to take 2 breaks mid meeting to throw up 4 cups of blood and mucus into their trash bin.

Salesman asked me if I could just hold it til after the meeting.

Oddly enough still the best company I have ever worked for.  That should tell you something about working in the US for the foreigners here.
 
2014-05-07 06:15:53 AM
Look Subby, I get vacation or sick time. Not both.
 
2014-05-07 06:18:24 AM

Shadow Blasko: I have no idea what you are talking about.

/Sitting at work now.
//With Norovirus.

Have spent more time in the bathroom than I have at my desk today. But they told me that if I call in, EVEN IF I AM IN THE FARKING HOSPITAL, it will be the end of my job.

I hope every single person over in this department gets sick. I really do.


spit on your hands and touch things.

/That shiat sticks around on surfaces for like 6 weeks, infecting people over, and over, and over.
//Thats why cruise ships keep getting it
///It's never really gone from the ship.
 
2014-05-07 06:52:12 AM

MLWS: All the people in my office seem to blow their sick time on their kids when they are sick, so when they are genuinely sick they still come in the office (usually a couple of days after they where home with the sick kid).

/annoying


I have 4 kids under 10. Little kids get sick all the time. My wife and I both work full time. Grandma isn't always around at short notice when lil Jimmy wakes up sick. I use a lot of PTO on staying home looking after sick kids. I don't have too many other options.
 
2014-05-07 10:30:12 AM

GameSprocket: Reasons to go to work sick:

1. You have a job where you can't just call in sick at the last minute, but you just woke up sick.
2. You don't get sick time and you need the money to pay your bills. (May want to plan better.)
3. "Work" consists of sitting in a cube in a quiet office all day while staying home would mean dealing with hyper kids and a nagging wife.

/Not that I would know anything about that last one.


Just so you know. People who hate their home life and live at work to avoid it are the reason why so many offices are a hive of dysfunction.

I never had a great experience in any company where a person like that is in charge. On the other hand, working for someone who loves their spouse and children are awesome. They're not the ones just looking for any excuse to work late.

Get a divorce. Everyone around you will thank you for it later.
 
2014-05-07 08:55:54 PM
Why waste vacation on a time when I don't feel well.
 
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