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2014-05-06 11:54:47 AM  

Duane Dibbley: Mugato: I had an NES when I was a kid and I feel no nostalgia for any of its games. Don't get why anyone would.

Different tastes. I always hated the NES. Terrible, ugly, hideously overpriced games and awkward controllers with corners that dig into your hands. As far as I'm concerned the C64, Spectrum and Amstrad CPC pissed all over it from a great height.


But that's me. Quite a lot of people seem to like it. I don't get it myself, but then again I don't understand the appeal of Justin Bieber, reality TV, guns or bukkake, but they all have their fans as well.


Duane Dibbley: Mugato: I had an NES when I was a kid and I feel no nostalgia for any of its games. Don't get why anyone would.

Different tastes. I always hated the NES. Terrible, ugly, hideously overpriced games and awkward controllers with corners that dig into your hands. As far as I'm concerned the C64, Spectrum and Amstrad CPC pissed all over it from a great height.


But that's me. Quite a lot of people seem to like it. I don't get it myself, but then again I don't understand the appeal of Justin Bieber, reality TV, guns or bukkake, but they all have their fans as well.


Depended on the games you got.  Arcade ports, yeah, those were shiat.  But there's quite a few games that are really good, even to today's standards.  Also, C64 was awesome!
 
2014-05-06 11:56:58 AM  

Mugato: Hand Banana: Mugato: I had an NES when I was a kid and I feel no nostalgia for any of its games. Don't get why anyone would.

Not even Super Mario Bros. or The Legend of Zelda? Those games were incredible at the time.

Yeah, at the time.


Thus, nostalgia.
 
2014-05-06 11:57:22 AM  

RedPhoenix122: Need a Dispenser Here: InterruptingQuirk: Mugato: I had an NES when I was a kid and I feel no nostalgia for any of its games. Don't get why anyone would.

This is the only one

It might have been the trance like music that did it for me too.

Hah, I just started playing that on my phone. I bought the sixaxis app that you use to connect a ps3 controller to your android, and it made it so much better.

Gotta rig up some method of strapping the phone above the controller that won't damage the phone...

http://buy.thegameklip.com/


Thanks for the heads up.

A quick search shows that my nexus 5 fits perfectly in the one designed for the S3.

Now my girlfriend can really think I'm a huge nerd...
 
2014-05-06 11:59:42 AM  
Is it an NES-001? I've heard those are really valuable

img.fark.net
 
2014-05-06 12:01:25 PM  

Duane Dibbley: As far as I'm concerned the C64, Spectrum and Amstrad CPC pissed all over it from a great height.


One, you're comparing computers to a game console. Two, not all of us were Richie Rich; having a computer of any kind was beyond my wildest imagination as a kid. Who was I, Mr. Spock? I had an Atari 2600 until 1987 when we got an NES and it was like nothing I had ever seen before.
 
2014-05-06 12:02:05 PM  

InterruptingQuirk: Mugato: I had an NES when I was a kid and I feel no nostalgia for any of its games. Don't get why anyone would.

This is the only one



It might have been the trance like music that did it for me too.


Hugely underrated and ignored game. I liked that you looked different with different equipment.
 
2014-05-06 12:28:37 PM  
I don't care what Nintendo has to say on the matter - until my wages are garnished by a court order - I'm not going to pay them for a game I already paid for.  The only games worth playing are the ones I had as a kid and have some nostalgic connection to.  Judging them by today's standards, they suck.  Hardcore suck.  Jenna Haze would be like, 'Wow, I thought I sucked, but FF1 REALLY sucks!'

Anyway - just download the rom like any sane person.  If you are too young to have played the original NES games - trust me - they weren't any good.
 
2014-05-06 12:38:26 PM  
I didn't see anything in there about a Sega Master System
 
2014-05-06 12:39:19 PM  

bdub77: I would cock punch any hipster I saw possessing this expensive crap in their skinny jeans until they started spewing blood. Then I would go after their face until my hands were torn and bloodied by their sandpapery hipster beards and ironic glasses.

Then I would force them to play Pro Wrestling and beat the sh*t out of them with Starman for hours. Then I would tie them to a chair and make them beat Battletoads with New Kids on the Block playing loudly in the background on repeat.

Sadly, I don't know any of these people on a personal basis.


Have you considered anger management courses, or joining the local police department
 
2014-05-06 12:42:01 PM  

Skyfrog: Duane Dibbley: As far as I'm concerned the C64, Spectrum and Amstrad CPC pissed all over it from a great height.

One, you're comparing computers to a game console. Two, not all of us were Richie Rich; having a computer of any kind was beyond my wildest imagination as a kid. Who was I, Mr. Spock? I had an Atari 2600 until 1987 when we got an NES and it was like nothing I had ever seen before.


Those computers were all comparable in price to the NES and you could buy five full price games (or twenty budget games) for the cost of one NES cartridge.
 
2014-05-06 12:45:01 PM  

RedPhoenix122: I'll stick with the Retron 5 when it gets released.


ok, that's f'n cool
 
2014-05-06 12:51:05 PM  

JolobinSmokin: star_topology: RexTalionis: I think retro-gaming nostalgia is getting out of hand.

Meh. This was the best purchase I've made in a long time:

[timewarpgamer.com image 470x371]

Plus, if you have a Half Price Books store in your city, they often have retro games for super cheap.

Is it NES and SNES?  that would seem to make it worth it more to me for some dumb reason, i would like to throw in a 64 port too, but I still have one of those.

/sold my NES for week in highschool
//I made the right choice.


It is. There is a button on the side that allows you to toggle 8-bit/16-bit mode.

And did you say n-64?
 
2014-05-06 01:17:02 PM  

PanicMan: Rwa2play: PanicMan: Include every game ever made for NES, and I'm on board. Otherwise, get bent.

Every game?  You do realize there were some farking stinkers in that lot right?

Every. Game.


All 97.

myrottingbrain.files.wordpress.com

Anyway, I paid about $250 for my NES Action Pack in 1989, I believe. That's about $425 today.

It's amazing that gaming has pretty much gone against inflation, and it's funny to hear kids whining that games are too expensive.
 
2014-05-06 01:29:19 PM  

Skr: It also says that it upscales to 1080p? LOOK AT THE BEAUTIFUL PIXELS


Which is silly, because most HD televisions already upscale 480i and 576i to the monitor's native resolution.  You'd only want the external device doing it in the event that it does a better job than the processor built into your television.

Also, unless the chip has a video filter that emulates the scan lines and chroma blurring of older televisions, chances are that the video might be too clean.  A lot of games used color tricks like pixel dithering and PAL scanline blending to get additional colors.
 
2014-05-06 01:30:00 PM  

bdub77: I would cock punch any hipster I saw possessing this expensive crap in their skinny jeans until they started spewing blood. Then I would go after their face until my hands were torn and bloodied by their sandpapery hipster beards and ironic glasses.

Then I would force them to play Pro Wrestling and beat the sh*t out of them with Starman for hours. Then I would tie them to a chair and make them beat Battletoads with New Kids on the Block playing loudly in the background on repeat.

Sadly, I don't know any of these people on a personal basis.


But we can find the together.
/ill bring the chainsaw
//you bring the beer
 
2014-05-06 01:31:19 PM  
I still play Snes Chrono Trigger at least once a year.
 
2014-05-06 01:35:07 PM  

Nexzus: It's amazing that gaming has pretty much gone against inflation, and it's funny to hear kids whining that games are too expensive.


Only because the market has been flooded.  Also, Steam.

baufan2005: I still play Snes Chrono Trigger at least once a year.


I'm thinking about doing another playthrough.
 
2014-05-06 01:54:04 PM  
Nexzus:
It's amazing that gaming has pretty much gone against inflation, and it's funny to hear kids wives whining that games are too expensive.

FTFY
/"You paid HOW MUCH?"
//The two free XBox games have helped justify the occasional $60.
 
2014-05-06 01:58:34 PM  

loonatic112358: I didn't see anything in there about a Sega Master System


[ ] Mario is not fat plumber.

/ You cannot deny facts
// Obscure, even by Fark standards
 
2014-05-06 01:59:04 PM  

Duane Dibbley: Skyfrog: Duane Dibbley: As far as I'm concerned the C64, Spectrum and Amstrad CPC pissed all over it from a great height.

One, you're comparing computers to a game console. Two, not all of us were Richie Rich; having a computer of any kind was beyond my wildest imagination as a kid. Who was I, Mr. Spock? I had an Atari 2600 until 1987 when we got an NES and it was like nothing I had ever seen before.

Those computers were all comparable in price to the NES and you could buy five full price games (or twenty budget games) for the cost of one NES cartridge.


Yeah, but the NES was a VASTLY more powerful gaming machine than a C64 or Spectrum or Amstrad. VASTLY.

I mean, I liked the C64. The games were pretty good. But the NES was just better at everything. Yeah, the games were expensive, but how many games did anyone actually buy? You rented games, if you were smart.
 
2014-05-06 02:01:33 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: The TI99-4A was always shiny.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 850x536]


Not always:

www.mainbyte.com
 
2014-05-06 02:04:22 PM  

stuhayes2010: Why not make it wireless and preinstall every farking NES game on some huge hard drive on it?


Other than the massive commercial violations of copyright that would entail?
 
2014-05-06 02:23:24 PM  

Rwa2play: PanicMan: Include every game ever made for NES, and I'm on board. Otherwise, get bent.

Every game?  You do realize there were some farking stinkers in that lot right?


This reminds me of when people were buying Dr Jekyll & Mr Hyde after the AVGN review.
 
2014-05-06 02:30:29 PM  

poot_rootbeer: stuhayes2010: Why not make it wireless and preinstall every farking NES game on some huge hard drive on it?

Other than the massive commercial violations of copyright that would entail?


On that note, Earthbound was supposed to have so many more pop culture references but the lawyers said they'd have too many 'likeness' complaints, they changed a lot for the American version...
 
2014-05-06 02:33:45 PM  

baufan2005: I still play Snes Chrono Trigger at least once a year.


I've got the DS version.  I play it on airplanes, and ONLY on airplanes.  Makes flying something to look forward to.
 
2014-05-06 02:40:49 PM  

Dafatone: baufan2005: I still play Snes Chrono Trigger at least once a year.

I've got the DS version.  I play it on airplanes, and ONLY on airplanes.  Makes flying something to look forward to.


Hope you're not too attached to the online portions.
 
Oak
2014-05-06 02:40:51 PM  
Does this mean there are dumbass bearded PBR-drinkers somewhere who'll pay top dollar for my two original NES consoles in pristine working condition?

/Top.  Dollar.
 
2014-05-06 03:04:39 PM  

Oak: Does this mean there are dumbass bearded PBR-drinkers somewhere who'll pay top dollar for my two original NES consoles in pristine working condition?

/Top.  Dollar.


I think top dollar is like 40 bucks.
 
2014-05-06 03:18:28 PM  

moothemagiccow: Oak: Does this mean there are dumbass bearded PBR-drinkers somewhere who'll pay top dollar for my two original NES consoles in pristine working condition?

/Top.  Dollar.

I think top dollar is like 40 bucks.


I guarantee you someone would pay $100 for one.

/not me, but look at Ebay as a guide
 
2014-05-06 03:33:07 PM  

realmolo: Yeah, but the NES was a VASTLY more powerful gaming machine than a C64 or Spectrum or Amstrad. VASTLY.


C64 CPU: MOS 6510
NES CPU: MOS 6502

C64 RAM: 64 KB
NES RAM: 2 KB

C64 Video: 16 colors, 320x200
NES Video: 25  colors, 256x240

I wouldn't say vastly. The C64 ran basically the same CPU, had much more RAM and allowed far larger programs due to floppy and cassette options. The NES did allow more colors but the C64 more detail.

/Amiga blew them both away
 
2014-05-06 03:42:41 PM  
Ok doing more reading apparently the NES 6502 was clocked nearly twice as fast as the one in the C64. The NES did have amazingly smooth scrolling too, the C64 and most others were kind of jerky on scrolling games. I would say overall the NES did come out on top but I don't think the difference was really that huge.

The SNES though...greatest console of all time.
 
2014-05-06 03:43:16 PM  

Hand Banana: The C64 ran basically the same CPU, had much more RAM and allowed far larger programs due to floppy and cassette options


The C64 disk had a capacity of 170kb.  So a game spread across two disks had a capacity of 340kb.  A 4mb cart (many were this size) is .5MB, so larger than two disks for the C64.
 
2014-05-06 03:55:06 PM  

star_topology: moothemagiccow: Oak: Does this mean there are dumbass bearded PBR-drinkers somewhere who'll pay top dollar for my two original NES consoles in pristine working condition?

/Top.  Dollar.

I think top dollar is like 40 bucks.

I guarantee you someone would pay $100 for one.

/not me, but look at Ebay as a guide


I wouldn't care too much about the actual game - but I would pay $100 for the original FF1 instruction book/box/and paper fold outs; if they were like-new condition.

I'm guessing that if I'd pay $100 there are others who are way more financially successful who would drop a lot more.  Maybe I'm wrong and should see if I can buy it?
 
2014-05-06 03:58:45 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: star_topology: moothemagiccow: Oak: Does this mean there are dumbass bearded PBR-drinkers somewhere who'll pay top dollar for my two original NES consoles in pristine working condition?

/Top.  Dollar.

I think top dollar is like 40 bucks.

I guarantee you someone would pay $100 for one.

/not me, but look at Ebay as a guide

I wouldn't care too much about the actual game - but I would pay $100 for the original FF1 instruction book/box/and paper fold outs; if they were like-new condition.

I'm guessing that if I'd pay $100 there are others who are way more financially successful who would drop a lot more.  Maybe I'm wrong and should see if I can buy it?


I've only got FF7, and it wasn't that cool


just booklets and cds in the packaging no cutouts
 
2014-05-06 03:58:54 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: I wouldn't care too much about the actual game - but I would pay $100 for the original FF1 instruction book/box/and paper fold outs; if they were like-new condition.

I'm guessing that if I'd pay $100 there are others who are way more financially successful who would drop a lot more. Maybe I'm wrong and should see if I can buy it?


There's a couple on ebay for $85 BIN price.  Less than that for an open auction.
 
2014-05-06 04:01:04 PM  

loonatic112358: I didn't see anything in there about a Sega Master System


I've gone through four NES consoles (admittedly only one new) since childhood. Don't have a working one now, either.

My first-generation Master System? Still works as well as the day I got it. And it has been played far more over the years. Somehow, the save-game battery on Y's is even still working.
 
2014-05-06 04:02:48 PM  

zipdog: I remember SNES games iattractive and successful African-Americanunning between 50 and 70 dollars new and we didn't have "greatest hits" releases coming out after a year for $20 a game. Kids these days don't know the meaning of expensive.


n [nineteen ninety four written out numerically] r = filterpwn
 
2014-05-06 04:17:04 PM  
can upscale the console's output to a lovely 1080p

Why would anyone do that? Things are still going to look blocky and so on.

/Still have my first NES in perfect working condition hooked up to a CRT television
 
2014-05-06 04:34:46 PM  

zipdog: zipdog: I remember SNES games iattractive and successful African-Americanunning between 50 and 70 dollars new and we didn't have "greatest hits" releases coming out after a year for $20 a game. Kids these days don't know the meaning of expensive.

n [nineteen ninety four written out numerically] r = filterpwn


That's a great filterpwn!!!!
 
2014-05-06 05:18:27 PM  

Duane Dibbley: Different tastes. I always hated the NES. Terrible, ugly, hideously overpriced games and awkward controllers with corners that dig into your hands. As far as I'm concerned the C64, Spectrum and Amstrad CPC pissed all over it from a great height.


You sound British.  Which explains why you weren't a huge fan of the NES; you guys got fark-all for games for it.

In the US, I had a C64 and an NES, and I have to say that the NES was ridiculously better.
 
2014-05-06 05:30:18 PM  
Well, we can solve these C64 vs. NES arguments pretty quick...

Some comparisons on equivalent games:

Donkey Kong...
C64
www.c64-wiki.com

NES
www.nintendojo.com


California Games....

C64
upload.wikimedia.org

NES
3.bp.blogspot.com

Blades of Steel
C64
www.gb64.com

NES
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-05-06 05:41:47 PM  
The NES display chip is better at the kinds of sprites-and-tiles graphics programming that was common in arcade machines in the early '80s, but the computer has other display modes that make it capable of entire genres which never showed up on the console.

And the NES has a better color palette (even though it lacks a proper yellow).
 
2014-05-06 05:51:29 PM  
I was honestly thinking more of the general experience of gaming, not just the graphics. It just felt like there was more to do in NES games.  There was nothing on C64 like Legend of Zelda, the Mega Man games, or Super Mario Bros. 3 -- long-form games like that, that laid out an epic journey before you.
 
2014-05-06 05:52:43 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: The TI99-4A was always shiny.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 850x536]


I still have one of those. It's kind of cool how it would go with today's popular kitchen appliances.
 
2014-05-06 05:56:29 PM  
I love my old NES, but man I want to play Duck Hunt really bad with the zapper gun, which of course will only work on an old CRT screen. I just want to shoot that stupid dog.
 
2014-05-06 06:58:45 PM  
I still have my Sega Dreamcast because it will play the catalog of older Sega ROMs. I think if I wanted to play NES games id either go on ebay and buy and old console. I still have an older CRT tv to hook it up too. That or just run an emulator.
 
2014-05-06 08:16:33 PM  

dletter: Well, we can solve these C64 vs. NES arguments pretty quick...

Some comparisons on equivalent games:


Donkey Kong...
C64

img.fark.net

NES

img.fark.net

I think we can all agree that the Atari 2600 version wins. :P

videogamecritic.com

Seriously though, I had a ColecoVision myself. It was awesome.

retromedia.ign.com
 
2014-05-06 08:22:23 PM  

Igor Jakovsky: I still have my Sega Dreamcast because it will play the catalog of older Sega ROMs. I think if I wanted to play NES games id either go on ebay and buy and old console. I still have an older CRT tv to hook it up too. That or just run an emulator.


The Dreamcast can play NES, SNES, Atari, TurboGrafx, Coleco, Intellivision and pretty much any other classic system with the right emulators. The drawback is you have to run them from CD which means wear and tear, noise and swapping discs. I think the original XBox is probably the best all around system for running classic console games; the latest XPort emulators are pretty sweet. Even handles Playstation games just fine.
 
2014-05-06 08:35:40 PM  

Hand Banana: dletter: Well, we can solve these C64 vs. NES arguments pretty quick...

Some comparisons on equivalent games:

Donkey Kong...
C64

[img.fark.net image 384x272]

NES

[img.fark.net image 383x381]

I think we can all agree that the Atari 2600 version wins. :P

[videogamecritic.com image 382x339]

Seriously though, I had a ColecoVision myself. It was awesome.

[retromedia.ign.com image 383x303]


TI994A had it going on as well

img.fark.net

The only system we had for gaming until we got an NES in 1/1987

We played Parsec more than anything else though

www.videogamehouse.net
 
2014-05-06 08:44:32 PM  

stuhayes2010: Why not make it wireless and preinstall every farking NES game on some huge hard drive on it?  Then maybe $499.


Because that would be illegal.
 
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