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(Deadspin)   After the crossbar kept the Rangers off the board during the Pens' Game 3 victory Monday night, Marc-Andre Fleury showed it a little love   (deadspin.com) divider line 39
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2014-05-06 02:36:13 AM  
Goalies are weird.
 
2014-05-06 05:45:57 AM  
While I have no love for Sid the Kid, seeing Staal abusing him in the gifs in the comments gets my ire up a bit.
 
2014-05-06 07:49:58 AM  
Posts and the crossbar are goalies' best friends.

That and a quick whistle.

Patrick Roy used to talk to his posts. Lucky for him the posts in Montreal understand French.
 
2014-05-06 07:55:41 AM  

Russ Feingold's Brass Balls: While I have no love for Sid the Kid, seeing Staal abusing him in the gifs in the comments gets my ire up a bit.


Thats gonna have him sitting for the rest of the series
 
2014-05-06 08:08:30 AM  

Lost Thought 00: Russ Feingold's Brass Balls: While I have no love for Sid the Kid, seeing Staal abusing him in the gifs in the comments gets my ire up a bit.

Thats gonna have him sitting for the rest of the series


No one would say a thing if it were Neal going after someone's head.
 
2014-05-06 08:19:07 AM  

Muta: Lost Thought 00: Russ Feingold's Brass Balls: While I have no love for Sid the Kid, seeing Staal abusing him in the gifs in the comments gets my ire up a bit.

Thats gonna have him sitting for the rest of the series

No one would say a thing if it were Neal going after someone's head.


are you referring to the Neal that kneed some bruin dude in the head, and sat 5 games for it? that Neal?
 
2014-05-06 08:22:13 AM  

Russ Feingold's Brass Balls: While I have no love for Sid the Kid, seeing Staal abusing him in the gifs in the comments gets my ire up a bit.


Don't worry, the players police themselves and so on.  This never happens because fighting.
 
2014-05-06 09:11:30 AM  

bart2puck: Muta: Lost Thought 00: Russ Feingold's Brass Balls: While I have no love for Sid the Kid, seeing Staal abusing him in the gifs in the comments gets my ire up a bit.

Thats gonna have him sitting for the rest of the series

No one would say a thing if it were Neal going after someone's head.

are you referring to the Neal that kneed some bruin dude in the head, and sat 5 games for it? that Neal?


No.  A knee is not a head.

cdn.bloguin.com
 
2014-05-06 09:26:00 AM  
Been making hockey and Baby, we're still going strong. Post, this night is ours and I swear I feel it coming on. All I know is when we get through, I ain't going to be able to move
 
2014-05-06 09:58:37 AM  
Rangers hit the goalpost 3 times. Penguins hit it twice.

Even if the goal was that much bigger and they were all goals, Pens still win.
 
2014-05-06 10:18:08 AM  

bart2puck: Muta: Lost Thought 00: Russ Feingold's Brass Balls: While I have no love for Sid the Kid, seeing Staal abusing him in the gifs in the comments gets my ire up a bit.

Thats gonna have him sitting for the rest of the series

No one would say a thing if it were Neal going after someone's head.

are you referring to the Neal that kneed some bruin dude in the head, and sat 5 games for it? that Neal?


I've been joking with a friend of mine that the reason Neal doesn't get larger punishments for his repeat offenses is that he is not a repeat offender.  Because he doesn't have the "repeat offender" label, he gets off relatively lightly for a lot of cheap shots.  Despite his offending repeatedly.
 
2014-05-06 10:23:55 AM  

Pontious Pilates: Goalies are weird.


At every level of hockey, no less. Mite goalies are weird, and that's before the brain damage sets in.
 
2014-05-06 10:24:55 AM  

Courtney Love's Genital Warts: Rangers hit the goalpost 3 times. Penguins hit it twice.

Even if the goal was that much bigger and they were all goals, Pens still win.


If this were the case the Blues would still be in the playoffs.
 
2014-05-06 10:39:07 AM  

robertus: Pontious Pilates: Goalies are weird.

At every level of hockey, no less. Mite goalies are weird, and that's before the brain damage sets in.


It takes a special kind of person to say "Sure, I'll go out there and try to get hit by 1 pound objects moving at 100mph".  Anyone in their right mind would be treating it like dodgeball rather than purposefully TRYING to get hit.

That being said, Fleury has always thanked his posts and crossbars.  He once paraphrased Patric Roy and said "I always thank the posts when they make a save for me.  The left post in French and the right post in English." (paraphrased myself).  When the reporter asked him "what language do you thank the crossbar?" he responded with "I'm still learning Pittsburghese, n'at."
 
2014-05-06 10:44:50 AM  
Fleury is just practicing for his career after hockey. Fluffer.

JC
 
2014-05-06 10:46:26 AM  

Pontious Pilates: Goalies are weird.


Yes, yes we are.

/soccer goalkeeper for many years
 
2014-05-06 11:29:50 AM  

Dafatone: bart2puck: Muta: Lost Thought 00: Russ Feingold's Brass Balls: While I have no love for Sid the Kid, seeing Staal abusing him in the gifs in the comments gets my ire up a bit.

Thats gonna have him sitting for the rest of the series

No one would say a thing if it were Neal going after someone's head.

are you referring to the Neal that kneed some bruin dude in the head, and sat 5 games for it? that Neal?

I've been joking with a friend of mine that the reason Neal doesn't get larger punishments for his repeat offenses is that he is not a repeat offender.  Because he doesn't have the "repeat offender" label, he gets off relatively lightly for a lot of cheap shots.  Despite his offending repeatedly.


The repeat offender label only affects how the monetary loss from the suspension is calculated, not the actual punishment
 
2014-05-06 12:22:19 PM  

Muta: bart2puck: Muta: Lost Thought 00: Russ Feingold's Brass Balls: While I have no love for Sid the Kid, seeing Staal abusing him in the gifs in the comments gets my ire up a bit.

Thats gonna have him sitting for the rest of the series

No one would say a thing if it were Neal going after someone's head.

are you referring to the Neal that kneed some bruin dude in the head, and sat 5 games for it? that Neal?

No.  A knee is not a head.

[cdn.bloguin.com image 484x319]


You also have from a couple of years ago when he hit Giroux and Couturie in the head on the same shift.

abmoraz: It takes a special kind of person to say "Sure, I'll go out there and try to get hit by 1 pound objects moving at 100mph".  Anyone in their right mind would be treating it like dodgeball rather than purposefully TRYING to get hit.


Umm. they're padded from head to toe.  It's not really that crazy.
 
2014-05-06 12:46:20 PM  

MugzyBrown: You also have from a couple of years ago when he hit Giroux and Couturie in the head on the same shift.


I am not a Neal fan (and can't wait for the Pens to dump him), but that (along with the Marchand hit) could be considered a public service.

If he could somehow manage to take out Cooke, John Stott, Sean Avery, and himself out at the same time, I don't think anyone important would complain.
 
2014-05-06 12:46:56 PM  
Sorry,

abmoraz: MugzyBrown: You also have from a couple of years ago when he hit Giroux and Couturie in the head on the same shift.

I am not a Neal fan (and can't wait for the Pens to dump him), but that (along with the Marchand hit) could be considered a public service.

If he could somehow manage to take out Cooke, John Stott, Sean Avery, and himself out at the same time, I don't think anyone important would complain.


Sorry, John SCOTT. (stupid typo)
 
2014-05-06 12:48:53 PM  

Russ Feingold's Brass Balls: While I have no love for Sid the Kid, seeing Staal abusing him in the gifs in the comments gets my ire up a bit.


Cindy Crosby deserves whatever he gets on the ice.  Sure, they should be called as penalties if the ref sees them, but Cindy has earned every cheap shot he gets.
 
2014-05-06 12:50:21 PM  

abmoraz: I am not a Neal fan (and can't wait for the Pens to dump him), but that (along with the Marchand hit) could be considered a public service


So you think it's good for the league that a thug was skating around hitting players in the head for no reason.

Awesome.

Hockey fans, the meatiest of meatheads.
 
2014-05-06 01:18:16 PM  

MugzyBrown: abmoraz: I am not a Neal fan (and can't wait for the Pens to dump him), but that (along with the Marchand hit) could be considered a public service

So you think it's good for the league that a thug was skating around hitting players in the head for no reason.

Awesome.

Hockey fans, the meatiest of meatheads.


Coming from a fan of a team that employs Steve Downie, Zac Rinaldo, and Claud Gireaux** ... pot, meet kettle.

**He has been suspended for illegal hit to the head, too
 
2014-05-06 01:22:24 PM  

abmoraz: Coming from a fan of a team that employs Steve Downie, Zac Rinaldo, and Claud Gireaux** ... pot, meet kettle.

**He has been suspended for illegal hit to the head, too


I'm not a fan of Steve Downie or Zac Rinaldo and wish both were out of the NHL,

Comparing Giroux's history to Neal's shows the idiocy that goes on between your ears.
 
2014-05-06 01:34:43 PM  
http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Paul-Stewart/James-Neal-The-Poster-Chi l d-for-Whats-Wrong-With8230/196/58889

Excellent article.. but this guy probably doesn't know anything about hockey.  You have to play to understand.
 
2014-05-06 01:34:51 PM  

MugzyBrown: abmoraz: Coming from a fan of a team that employs Steve Downie, Zac Rinaldo, and Claud Gireaux** ... pot, meet kettle.

**He has been suspended for illegal hit to the head, too

I'm not a fan of Steve Downie or Zac Rinaldo and wish both were out of the NHL,

Comparing Giroux's history to Neal's shows the idiocy that goes on between your ears.


And which part of "I don't like Neal and wish the Pens dumped him" is any different?  I just said I hope he takes out the rest of the trash on his way.
 
2014-05-06 01:35:05 PM  

Muta: bart2puck: Muta: Lost Thought 00: Russ Feingold's Brass Balls: While I have no love for Sid the Kid, seeing Staal abusing him in the gifs in the comments gets my ire up a bit.

Thats gonna have him sitting for the rest of the series

No one would say a thing if it were Neal going after someone's head.

are you referring to the Neal that kneed some bruin dude in the head, and sat 5 games for it? that Neal?

No.  A knee is not a head.

[cdn.bloguin.com image 484x319]



oooohhhh,  that neal...touche'
 
2014-05-06 01:44:47 PM  

MugzyBrown: http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Paul-Stewart/James-Neal-The-Poster-Chi l d-for-Whats-Wrong-With8230/196/58889

Excellent article.. but this guy probably doesn't know anything about hockey.  You have to play to understand.


You won't find any argument from me on that article.  I've seen it before and agree 100%.  Neal is more of a detriment to the Pens than an asset any more.  The worst part (from a purely team standpoint NOT an NHL standpoint) is that he has rubbed off on Malkin.  Malkin is starting to do the same "frustration stickwork" that Neal does.  Someone makes a good play on Malkin or if he misses a pass, well, that's a slash to the opponent just because.

I liken it to the way Hartnell used to be.  He used to be a clown.  He used to take a LOT of stupid penalties (throwing a glove on a break-away?), he used to be the best player for whoever the Flyers were playing.  All that skill and it was wasted on cheap play and stupid antics.  He was a detriment to his team.

BUT, he cleaned his act up quite well.  Someone finally convinced him that if he actually tried to play hockey and used his body like a power forward rather than a clown, he could be REALLY good; 37 goals in a year good.  Now he still gets penalties, but they are more from hard work and being too aggressive and less from stupid stuff.
 
2014-05-06 01:46:40 PM  

abmoraz: MugzyBrown: http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Paul-Stewart/James-Neal-The-Poster-Chi l d-for-Whats-Wrong-With8230/196/58889

Excellent article.. but this guy probably doesn't know anything about hockey.  You have to play to understand.

You won't find any argument from me on that article.  I've seen it before and agree 100%.  Neal is more of a detriment to the Pens than an asset any more.  The worst part (from a purely team standpoint NOT an NHL standpoint) is that he has rubbed off on Malkin.  Malkin is starting to do the same "frustration stickwork" that Neal does.  Someone makes a good play on Malkin or if he misses a pass, well, that's a slash to the opponent just because.

I liken it to the way Hartnell used to be.  He used to be a clown.  He used to take a LOT of stupid penalties (throwing a glove on a break-away?), he used to be the best player for whoever the Flyers were playing.  All that skill and it was wasted on cheap play and stupid antics.  He was a detriment to his team.

BUT, he cleaned his act up quite well.  Someone finally convinced him that if he actually tried to play hockey and used his body like a power forward rather than a clown, he could be REALLY good; 37 goals in a year good.  Now he still gets penalties, but they are more from hard work and being too aggressive and less from stupid stuff.


Speaking of Malkin, who saw one of the Detroit players butt-end him in the nuts earlier in the year?  Anybody else enjoy that as much as I did?
 
2014-05-06 01:56:19 PM  

Slackfumasta: Speaking of Malkin, who saw one of the Detroit players butt-end him in the nuts earlier in the year? Anybody else enjoy that as much as I did?


It was David Legwand.  Just curious, but did you enjoy the Lucic gonad-strike as well?

/football to the groin! [/HomerVoice]
 
2014-05-06 02:15:40 PM  

Slackfumasta: Speaking of Malkin, who saw one of the Detroit players butt-end him in the nuts earlier in the year?  Anybody else enjoy that as much as I did?


no, but thats kinky.
 
2014-05-06 02:19:29 PM  

MugzyBrown: abmoraz: It takes a special kind of person to say "Sure, I'll go out there and try to get hit by 1 pound objects moving at 100mph".  Anyone in their right mind would be treating it like dodgeball rather than purposefully TRYING to get hit.


Umm. they're padded from head to toe.  It's not really that crazy.


There used to be gaps in goalie equipment at the shoulder, on the arms near the bicep, between the leg pad and the pants and at the fingers of the blocker hand if a shot rides up the stick. But, equipment makers closed those gaps ages ago. Now, it's very, very difficult to hurt a goalie with a shot when he's paying attention.
/ Goalie
// Can't remember the last time a shot left a bruise
/// Never move your head out of the way of a slap shot, you're much more likely to get hurt if you flinch
//// I think Mike Richter ended up with a skull fracture and ruptured ear drums once from flinching and taking a shot on the side of the head
 
2014-05-06 02:36:56 PM  

abmoraz: I liken it to the way Hartnell used to be.  He used to be a clown.  He used to take a LOT of stupid penalties (throwing a glove on a break-away?), he used to be the best player for whoever the Flyers were playing.  All that skill and it was wasted on cheap play and stupid antics.  He was a detriment to his team.

BUT, he cleaned his act up quite well.


Hartnell is a total tool and will never come close to 37 goals again.
 
2014-05-06 02:48:06 PM  

MugzyBrown: Umm. they're padded from head to toe. It's not really that crazy.

Ok...you stand still when Chara, Al McGinnis, or Al Iafrate sail a 100+mph puck at your crotch


TeamEd: / Can't remember the last time a shot left a bruise
/// Never move your head out of the way of a slap shot, you're much more likely to get hurt if you flinch
//// I think Mike Richter ended up with a skull fracture and ruptured ear drums once from flinching and taking a shot on the side of the head


Doing the splits the backs of the lets are still exposed, and there's not a lot of padding inside the upper thighs.  I have bruises from last Sunday that are finally fading.
If I remember right, Richter took two blasts off the head and then hit his head against the post in the same game which ultimately led to his retirement
 
2014-05-06 03:04:09 PM  

JT_Goalie: Ok...you stand still when Chara, Al McGinnis, or Al Iafrate sail a 100+mph puck at your crotch


Ok. Am I getting paid as well
 
2014-05-06 03:18:02 PM  

abmoraz: Slackfumasta: Speaking of Malkin, who saw one of the Detroit players butt-end him in the nuts earlier in the year? Anybody else enjoy that as much as I did?

It was David Legwand.  Just curious, but did you enjoy the Lucic gonad-strike as well?

/football to the groin! [/HomerVoice]


LOVED it!

/B's fan
 
2014-05-06 03:20:21 PM  

JT_Goalie: MugzyBrown: Umm. they're padded from head to toe. It's not really that crazy.
Ok...you stand still when Chara, Al McGinnis, or Al Iafrate sail a 100+mph puck at your crotch


TeamEd: / Can't remember the last time a shot left a bruise
/// Never move your head out of the way of a slap shot, you're much more likely to get hurt if you flinch
//// I think Mike Richter ended up with a skull fracture and ruptured ear drums once from flinching and taking a shot on the side of the head

Doing the splits the backs of the lets are still exposed, and there's not a lot of padding inside the upper thighs.  I have bruises from last Sunday that are finally fading.
If I remember right, Richter took two blasts off the head and then hit his head against the post in the same game which ultimately led to his retirement


Not to mention the neck area (those plastic guards that hang provide some protection, but not as much as people think.  The inside of the arms (near the fold of the elbows) are prime for some damage as well.  So are the lower thighs (especially if you go down on your knees and aren't a butterfly goalie with the full flexibility of a gymnast to keep the pads from lying flat).

I've had my face bars shatter from a shot (used to wear a Dominic Hasek style mask).  The real danger usually comes from tipped/deflected shots.  Those end up coming in at a different angle.  If a goalie is square to the shot, he's pretty well padded.  If the shot comes from any angle except straight on, there are plenty of spots with little to no padding where they can get hurt.

Playing goalie takes a different mindset.

/used to play goalie a bit.
//played defense more.
 
2014-05-06 06:35:39 PM  
My son has been a goalie since minor atom (or 'squirt' in the US.). He's always had his head screwed on differently than the other players. He didn't like close games because they were stressful. Didn't like blow-outs against him because he let in too many goals. Didn't like blow-outs in his favour because they were boring. Didn't like sitting on the bench because he wanted to play. Complained about every game in some way. Insisted he loved hockey.

Equipment is stupidly expensive. We'd keep him in the same pads until his knees would almost poke above them. He didn't like it when he'd butterfly and take a puck off the knee, and I'd tell him to skate it off. His mother made me get him a helmet with expensive padding to protect his crazy goalie brain.

When he became a teenager and played midget the kids shooting at him were close to adult size and strength. The harder the shots, the more he liked it. Some of these 15 year olds had 75+ mph shots. Goalies are nuts.
 
2014-05-06 06:48:46 PM  

abmoraz: JT_Goalie: MugzyBrown: Umm. they're padded from head to toe. It's not really that crazy.
Ok...you stand still when Chara, Al McGinnis, or Al Iafrate sail a 100+mph puck at your crotch


TeamEd: / Can't remember the last time a shot left a bruise
/// Never move your head out of the way of a slap shot, you're much more likely to get hurt if you flinch
//// I think Mike Richter ended up with a skull fracture and ruptured ear drums once from flinching and taking a shot on the side of the head

Doing the splits the backs of the lets are still exposed, and there's not a lot of padding inside the upper thighs.  I have bruises from last Sunday that are finally fading.
If I remember right, Richter took two blasts off the head and then hit his head against the post in the same game which ultimately led to his retirement

Not to mention the neck area (those plastic guards that hang provide some protection, but not as much as people think.  The inside of the arms (near the fold of the elbows) are prime for some damage as well.  So are the lower thighs (especially if you go down on your knees and aren't a butterfly goalie with the full flexibility of a gymnast to keep the pads from lying flat).

I've had my face bars shatter from a shot (used to wear a Dominic Hasek style mask).  The real danger usually comes from tipped/deflected shots.  Those end up coming in at a different angle.  If a goalie is square to the shot, he's pretty well padded.  If the shot comes from any angle except straight on, there are plenty of spots with little to no padding where they can get hurt.

Playing goalie takes a different mindset.

/used to play goalie a bit.
//played defense more.


thirded.

still have a nasty bruise/abrasion on my right forearm from last sunday. a deflected slapshot got under the top part of my blocker. and despite the large goalie cup it always hurts taking a shot square to the crotch. not to mention getting run into by big guys that make no effort to stop while crashing the net. got run one time and my mask popped off and the rebound shot went in off my cheekbone. i've also been "miller'd" before (or is that lucic'd)? was seeing stars for like five minutes after that one.

knees and thighs are pretty vulnerable as well, depending on the angle. i've taken to wearing volleyball kneepads as base padding for my knees. not only for errant shots, but also because sometimes my knees slip from the landing gear. broke my middle finger not too long ago when i flinched at a slapshot coming for my head. blocked it away with my glove but my palm wasn't facing out so it hit the tip of my finger straight on. in hindsight, i probably shouldn't have kept playing.

and this is just standard beer league fare. can't imagine what the pros face. definitely takes a lot of mental strength to stand in front of a shot. i think most people would flinch. and like someone else mentioned, flinching is one of the worst things you can do. still love playing goalie though.
 
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