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(Ars Technica)   Samsung takes defeat in court gracefully. Just kidding, they say the US is rigged and the jurors are morans   (arstechnica.com ) divider line
    More: Followup, Samsung, Apple, just compensation, Just Kidding  
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1787 clicks; posted to Geek » on 06 May 2014 at 12:52 AM (2 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2014-05-06 01:22:43 AM  
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forgotmydamnusername: The US system isn't quite so rigged when you have Samsung-sized bank accounts to work with. That shiat only happens to the poors. But they're right, jurors are morons.


If I'd won an ITC ruling against Apple, only to have the President say "Feel free to just ignore that fellas" I'd feel the system was rigged, too.
2014-05-06 01:23:06 AM  
2 votes:
They'd be right...
2014-05-06 09:05:19 AM  
1 vote:

JosephFinn: Oh, Samsung.

One day in March 2011, cars carrying investigators from Korea's anti-trust regulator pulled up outside a Samsung facility in Suwon, about 25 miles south of Seoul. They were there ready to raid the building, looking for evidence of possible collusion between the company and wireless operators to fix the prices of mobile phones.

Before the investigators could get inside, security guards approached and refused to let them through the door. A standoff ensued, and the investigators called the police, who finally got them inside after a 30-minute delay. Curious about what had been happening in the plant as they cooled their heels outside, the officials seized video from internal security cameras. What they saw was almost beyond belief.

Upon getting word that investigators were outside, employees at the plant began destroying documents and switching computers, replacing the ones that were being used - and might have damaging material on them - with others.

Make sure to read the bits about Samsung's pleasant little habit of bribing government prosecutors as well.


I was going to say, if anyone knows about rigging legal and political systems, it's Samsung. Their entire existence is based upon it.
2014-05-06 08:52:20 AM  
1 vote:
Just kidding, they say the US is rigged and the jurors are morans

What article did you read? It seemed to me that Samsung handled themselves just fine.
2014-05-06 08:33:34 AM  
1 vote:

forgotmydamnusername: But they're right, jurors are morons.


Funny thing is that I was going to make a comment about "jury of your peers" and was researching the quote. I found that:

1. The Constitution only guarantees jury trials for criminal matters.
2. No where does it state a "jury of your peers." Only that you must be tried by a jury composed of  impartial jurors from the jurisdiction that the crime was committed in.

This means that professional juries would in fact be Constitutional, as long as certain limits were applied and that juries could be abolished for civil trials entirely.

/ Learn something new every day.
2014-05-06 07:20:28 AM  
1 vote:
Hey, a lot of people pay good money to make sure the US is rigged.
2014-05-06 06:14:35 AM  
1 vote:
Well, they are right about that.
2014-05-06 05:43:33 AM  
1 vote:
defeat... lol.

Apple got reamed this time.They went from a very large victory to precisely nothing. A couple of trivial patents which any sane person would find risible enfoced against a handful of obsolete handsets to the tune of pocket change.
2014-05-06 03:59:35 AM  
1 vote:
Samsung actually made out quite well in this case, even though they lost. The damages awarded are a drop in the bucket, and they managed to cost Apple many months worth of litigation time during which they sold more phones.

Fundamentally, most of these patents are bullshiat that should never have been patented. And the US *has* been somewhat crooked and protectionist in the way it's handled this regarding the ITC. Did Samsung "copy" elements from the iPhone, particularly early on in the development of smartphones? Sure, but Jobs loved "Great artists steal." more than just about anyone else. Half the stuff Apple has accused Samsung of would be positively catastrophic if it applied to other industries.

You like Oreos? Nope, gone. Hydrox got the patent on chocolate flavored cookies with vanilla cream filling.

Buffalo wings? Sorry, the Anchor Bar snapped that patent up.

Hamburgers? Nope, patented by some guy in the early 1900's with the recipe considered a "trade secret".

If this kind of patent nonsense had been going on in the era of the railroad tycoons and other old, big money barons, you can bet that patents would be in the same state that copyright is now thanks to Disney. Extended indefinitely, applied to everything, and good for almost nobody but the lawyers.
2014-05-06 02:27:54 AM  
1 vote:
If they would have added judges also they would have been right on the money.
2014-05-06 01:57:07 AM  
1 vote:
heaven forbid Samsung's lawyers do what they are supposed to do, subby--defend their clients...
2014-05-06 01:05:37 AM  
1 vote:
The US system isn't quite so rigged when you have Samsung-sized bank accounts to work with. That shiat only happens to the poors. But they're right, jurors are morons.
2014-05-06 12:57:09 AM  
1 vote:
120 million from 2.2 billion. Take your licks and move on. The court systems are certainly skewed but learn to not get caught or don't break the rules in the first place.

I still personally hate Apple and refuse to buy their products but Samsung is almost as bad.
 
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