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(Foodbeast)   So a dozen armed men walk into a Jack in the Box   (foodbeast.com) divider line 88
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2014-05-05 04:31:45 PM  
11 votes:
The men were Open Carry Firearm demonstrators who were protesting their rights to carry firearms in public.

Protesting their rights........or demonstrating their rights.......?

/anyway, I hope the cops are called on you every time you carry your AR into a business/public place.
//you want a reaction, I hope you like police reaction
///I'm all for concealed carry, but carrying around your AR in public like that is just stupid.
2014-05-05 06:06:26 PM  
7 votes:
Why would any sane person just assume their weapons are welcome in any place of business? I have no problem with open-carry, but walking into a fast food joint fully armed is just being a dick.
2014-05-05 04:47:32 PM  
7 votes:
Look at the shiat eating grins on their faces. What a collection of assholes. Too bad someone with a CCP wasn't there the shoot them.
2014-05-05 06:07:02 PM  
6 votes:
If their state allows for open carry then they have every reason to expect to be allowed to walk into a restaurant with their toys out. But as grown men they must also understand the reaction a business will have when armed men enter, so they should also be responsible for paying back their state/city/county for the police response that follows. Gas in the cruisers, half a man-hour per responder, etc. That's just being a good citizen. That's just prudent.

You want to wave your dick around, fine, nobody's really going to get hurt, but you have to be prepared to answer for your dick waving.
2014-05-05 05:13:43 PM  
6 votes:
I want to see your gun about as much as I want to see your penis.  As in not at all.  So put that shiat away.
2014-05-05 07:12:59 PM  
5 votes:

pedrop357: I wonder if people in Israel lose their mind when they see people walking around everywhere with M16s


No, because the people walking around with M16s in Israel are trained uniformed military officers in a country whose citizens are under actual threat by actual enemies who actually want to kill them.

These open-carry buttholes? Not trained military, not uniformed, not under threat, and not protecting anyone from anything except the childish fantasy that exists in their cretinous imaginations.
2014-05-05 06:53:21 PM  
5 votes:

Bit'O'Gristle: /Ya, that doesn't work so well. It has been tried. You can't tell someone they are trespassing, when its a public access building like a fast food joint. There have been may court cases.


It's not trespassing when they walk in - but once you tell them to leave, if they refuse, it's trespassing.

Vagrants walk into restaurants and start asking people for money.  The restaurants tell them to GTFO.  If they don't leave, the cops will arrest them.  This is the same thing - someone is told "You aren't welcome here", and if they won't leave, the cops will deal with it.

To me, a rifle in your hand is very, very different that a pistol in your holster.  the only reason you have that gun in your hand is to be a threat.  I'm not going to treat you like a customer while you threaten me.
2014-05-05 06:50:25 PM  
4 votes:
Enjoy your AR, m'kay? But does it have to go in the store with you?

/Christ - even my 4-yr old knows that her toys stay in the car.
2014-05-05 06:37:55 PM  
4 votes:

Callous: AspectRatio: Dear Adolescent Gun-Humpers,

You sure seem fearful. If you don't carry your guns around, are you are constantly on the verge of shiatting your pants?

Sincerely,
The Grown-Ups

Dear Bigot,

Please learn a little about what your talking about rather then going off half-cocked based only on your ignorant assumptions.

Sincerely,
The rest of us


Dear Callous,

Please learn what the term "bigot" means before you start using it as a synonym for "anyone who says something I don't like."

Sincerely,
Everyone else
2014-05-05 06:02:53 PM  
4 votes:

I want to see some minority gun owners walk down the streets in the towns where these guys live. See what the response is then.


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2014-05-05 08:30:04 PM  
3 votes:

Callous: Isitoveryet: wow, those patriots are moar patriotic than any of you could ever fake being.

they are moar patriotic than Uncle Sam snorting coke off a hookers ass through a rolled up Constitution in church while segregating teh population into income groups.

/do all Americans suffer from an inferiority complex?

No, but it appears many have an irrational fear of weapons.


Explain to me how it's irrational to be afraid of a tool designed specifically to launch a small lead weight fast enough to go through a human body. Especially when that tool is in the hands of a complete stranger whose disposition you have no way of knowing.

That seems like an entirely rational fear.
2014-05-05 07:45:10 PM  
3 votes:

The Flexecutioner: BINGO! that's the point these guys are making.  It's totally LEGAL to adorn yourself with guns in public.  They wanted to show that the public could lose their shiat over this and react poorly to a completely legal action.  These guys arent out to scare people but show you how the law itself will scare people.  The law itself.


They didn't "react poorly". They reacted in a way that is completely reasonable to react. I'm not sure how the law is the scary part, unless you mean it's scary that men are allowed to carry murder machines around to public places.
2014-05-05 07:32:31 PM  
3 votes:

The Flexecutioner: these guys weren't choosing to threaten people with their rifles.  stop inaccurately describing the scenario to fit your outrage.


Why did the employees hide and call the cops?

Because they felt threatened.  Which is exactly what the gun nuts wanted.
2014-05-05 06:55:49 PM  
3 votes:

tripleseven: Each one of these attention whores just wants everyone in the vicinity to know that "I can kill all of you, at any time"


THIS.
Hey, you NRA cosplayers? Yeah, you're not helping your cause. Grow up. You look like attention-whoring toddler-men to literally everyone else around you. And you are the reason that your precious Second Amendment will likely be repealed some time in the next three decades.
2014-05-05 06:48:06 PM  
3 votes:

basemetal: The men were Open Carry Firearm demonstrators who were protesting their rights to carry firearms in public.

Protesting their rights........or demonstrating their rights.......?

/anyway, I hope the cops are called on you every time you carry your AR into a business/public place.
//you want a reaction, I hope you like police reaction
///I'm all for concealed carry, but carrying around your AR in public like that is just stupid.


Each one of these attention whores just wants everyone in the vicinity to know that "I can kill all of you, at any time"


Idiots.
2014-05-05 06:24:14 PM  
3 votes:

firemanbuck: You know, a sidearm is one thing...some doof had one strapped on his leg in the produce department of my local grocery store on Saturday...but walking in with an AR like the idiot on the left side of the photo should be considered brandishing and he should be cited.

IMHO


/ I totally agree. But, as the law is written, it's their right. And its the constitutional equivalent of trolling.  They do it for shock value, on the premise of "education of the public" but in reality, its trolling.  They WANT the cops to show up so they can video them doing nothing "as no law has been broken" and post it to youtube..  Look how we showed the cops our RIGHTS.  Sighs.  Yes, they had the right to do that, but...they are still assholes.
2014-05-05 06:19:58 PM  
3 votes:
I am so farking sick of seeing these "OpenCarry" douchbags , you have no need to be carrying your AR/Shotgun unless you're transporting it to and from a range, or going hunting.

the group in FarmersBranch likes to walk down the street and demonstrate in front of the police station.
While it is legal to do so in Texas (providing no rounds are chambered)... its still provocation, and as such opens them up to other civil penalties.

they are also currently getting all pissy with the city of Arlington. They go and demonstrate in traffic on busy streets...similar to how firemen will walk about collecting for charity in boots...only instead of there being a large fire engine and fireman holding a boot...its a bunch of tetrads walking up to cars at red lights with guns and pamphlets.  APD has laws on the books prohibiting standing on busy roads and intersections in this fashion...but because they love their guns...they are being petulant as fark.

honestly by Texas law I am allowed to keep a loaded pistol in my car ...basically all the time without the need for a CCP. So if I saw someone scumbag approach my truck while toting a long gun...and I "stood my ground" and shot them dead...what happens then?
2014-05-05 06:17:56 PM  
3 votes:
The employee should have taken a pen and paper and written a note saying "We reserve the right not to serve assholes with weapons".

I'm all in favor of gun ownership, but when you start carrying rifles into Jack in the Box because your mother won't give you any attention, you've gone too far.
2014-05-05 06:12:32 PM  
3 votes:
So what I find funny about this is that they suppose they are advocates but they're doing horrible PR.  They also have the hubris to assume that they won't have an accidental discharge, treating their guns like decorations.  You could argue that they might be responsible owners and they wouldn't be carrying fully loaded rifles around a family restaurant, but you know that's not how guys like this roll.  How would they be the big heroes if "it went down".

So they're strutting around with murder machines in a family joint.  Good work fellas, you've won another moral victory.

I say this as someone who is actually pro gun.
2014-05-05 06:10:23 PM  
3 votes:

Isitoveryet: wow, those patriots are moar patriotic than any of you could ever fake being.

they are moar patriotic than Uncle Sam snorting coke off a hookers ass through a rolled up Constitution in church while segregating teh population into income groups.

/do all Americans suffer from an inferiority complex?


No, but it appears many have an irrational fear of weapons.
2014-05-05 09:26:37 PM  
2 votes:

Mikey1969: tripleseven: Mikey1969: nijika: "F the safety of your kids and family I have a point to prove!"

While I think these chucklehead morons are stupid attention where's, please elaborate on how they were endangering anybody's safety.

If I saw armed civilian men coming into a restaurant I'd be inclined to believe they intended to rob the place or kill people. Some people may even panic and run.

You know that thing about the first amendment having limits? Like not yelling fire in a crowded theater? Let's just say its common sense not be bring a assault weapon to a theater either.

You'd "be inclined to think", but your inclination to think does not equal anybody being in danger, which was the point I was trying to make, which is why I called these "chucklehead morons" "attention whores".

Notice that I didn't support anything they did, I merely pointed out that they didn't actually threaten anybody's safety. That stupid panic reflex is just as dumb as their need for attention.

They could have returned their weapons to their vehicles before getting food, and if they were afraid of their guns getting stolen form their cars(a valid concern), they could have placed the guns in their cases and carried them in that way. Instead, they've got to be dicks about it.

I don't respect these guys, just like I don't respect someone who thinks a gun itself is some kind of dangerous object. It isn't. Without an outside force, a gun does not fire, so it wasn't "threatening" anybody's safety.


Guns are dangerous objects. A gun the hands of unknown people in a situation that doesn't call for a gunis a llegitimate cause for concern for safety.

You can try to deny it all you want, you can trot out any talking point about a gun being a tool, or that guns don't kill people etc.
2014-05-05 08:14:42 PM  
2 votes:

100 Watt Walrus: Why would any sane person just assume their weapons are welcome in any place of business? I have no problem with open-carry, but walking into a fast food joint fully armed is just being a dick.


I was in a Mcdonald's robbed at gun point by some junkie dumb ass who failed to notice the 2 customers in the lobby were both open carrying tactical pistols.

I can't speak for the managers, but as the guy behind the counter, I was VERY happy to have them there.  They drew, I ducked, the junkie went o jail.  No shots fired.

Granted, that was a once in a lifetime kind of thing, but it does happen.

On the other hand, the two customers I speak of were regulars, and weren't waving around ARs like some kind of militia want-to-be.  That makes a pretty big difference.
2014-05-05 07:57:00 PM  
2 votes:
So, are they any different from the Westboro Baptist Church? Sure, both groups are using and demonstrating their constitutional rights, but they still being massive dicks over it.
2014-05-05 07:53:30 PM  
2 votes:

The Flexecutioner: zarker: The Flexecutioner: BINGO! that's the point these guys are making.  It's totally LEGAL to adorn yourself with guns in public.  They wanted to show that the public could lose their shiat over this and react poorly to a completely legal action.  These guys arent out to scare people but show you how the law itself will scare people.  The law itself.

They didn't "react poorly". They reacted in a way that is completely reasonable to react. I'm not sure how the law is the scary part, unless you mean it's scary that men are allowed to carry murder machines around to public places.

thanks, you answered your own question.


Scaring the piss out of everyone isn't going to show them they shouldn't be scared
2014-05-05 07:43:07 PM  
2 votes:
Let's ignore the whole "militia" part of the amendment for a second, because the bought-out courts decided to...let's just say it's a right to carry a weapon any time, any place. That doesn't change that it's still a horrible goddamn idea to walk around with a firearm out for all to see -- having a gun when you are not busy being a uniformed police officer, soldier, or security guard is announcing to the world that you are dangerous. The only reason to carry a weapon is to be dangerous.

And there are times for that. When you are the Black Panthers and you're tired of centuries of government-sanctioned oppression, then you announce that you're prepared to fight back. When you're a colonist and you find the treatment of your homeland untenable, you fight back.

However, when you're going out for a goddamn snack there's nothing that should indicate you would need to prepare for lethal combat. It's not just paranoia, it's paranoia that harms the people around them -- because yes, the time those Jack in the Box workers spent cowering in fear is psychological harm. And "because I can," even if true, isn't reason enough to inflict harm on someone else.
2014-05-05 07:14:48 PM  
2 votes:
So their point is, "because we can"? 

Yeah, you can... and I can think you're second rate douchebags for doing it.
2014-05-05 07:04:11 PM  
2 votes:
I'm not a gun guy (not opposed to guns, either), but I gotta think that if you're a open-carry kinda fella, 'cause, you know, you're just not safe out there, why wouldn't you make the concealed carry leap? Sure you can walk around with your long gun, but is that really the best tool for the job? Your handgun, discreetly hidden on your person is probably the better option.

These guys are the weenuses, not the employees (as some other poster suggested.) If I'm in charge and these guys roll up, hell yeah I'm getting my employees out of harms way. That's just common sense (which open carry seems to be contrary to.)
2014-05-05 06:57:34 PM  
2 votes:

Bit'O'Gristle: fusillade762: Theaetetus: JuggleGeek: The employee should have taken a pen and paper and written a note saying "We reserve the right not to serve assholes with weapons".

Or just said "GTFO, or you're trespassing." You don't need to have a specially written policy to refuse service to people carrying weapons.

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/Ya, that doesn't work so well.  It has been tried.  You can't tell someone they are trespassing, when its a public access building like a fast food joint. There have been may court cases.


Yes, it works just fine, has been tried and upheld all over the place, and with all due respect, I believe you're confusing "court cases" with "bullshiat". In particular, you may be confusing this situation with people who refuse service based on an identified trait in the federal or relevant state's civil rights acts.
2014-05-05 06:55:36 PM  
2 votes:

Theaetetus: Pointing at a sign is passive aggressive, at best.


Waving your rifle around is fine, pointing at a sign is aggressive. Got it.
2014-05-05 06:43:11 PM  
2 votes:

Theaetetus: JuggleGeek: The employee should have taken a pen and paper and written a note saying "We reserve the right not to serve assholes with weapons".

Or just said "GTFO, or you're trespassing." You don't need to have a specially written policy to refuse service to people carrying weapons.


www.mydoorsign.com
2014-05-05 06:33:48 PM  
2 votes:

zarker: I know in this situation, the cops did respond, but if you call 911 and say "there's a man walking around with a big ass gun" would they just.. not respond? Because that's not particularly illegal? And if they do respond in every case, how long is it gonna take before people get tired of being questioned for carrying their big ass guns, or the cops decide you can no longer carry a big ass gun because you're freaking out the citizens?
Why would you ever think you'd need that anyway? The hell is wrong with a pistol?


well  other than officers discretion... cops don't get to just decide what the laws are.

I saw this on the news the day after it happened... numerous FtWorth PD units responded.
And the douche in the middle with the plaid shirt gave as he reasons for driving around with a loaded AR 24/7 is "to fill the gaps the Police can't fill...sometimes they just can't respond fast enough"...
yes...sometimes some farking troll has pulled rock stupid stunt like open carrying a long arm in a Jack in the Box so that people call 911 and 15-20 cops show up, instead of taking care of a real issue.
2014-05-05 06:30:37 PM  
2 votes:

nijika: So what I find funny about this is that they suppose they are advocates but they're doing horrible PR.  They also have the hubris to assume that they won't have an accidental discharge, treating their guns like decorations.  You could argue that they might be responsible owners and they wouldn't be carrying fully loaded rifles around a family restaurant, but you know that's not how guys like this roll.  How would they be the big heroes if "it went down".

So they're strutting around with murder machines in a family joint.  Good work fellas, you've won another moral victory.

I say this as someone who is actually pro gun.


/I'm with you there, i carry concealed, as i live in a "shall issue state" now, thank god.  And if i saw some assholes parading around like this they would likely get punched in the face. As i said in a earlier post, pancake holster, .45 hidden, no need to alarm people, and still be able to defend yourself if needed.  And likewise, just because you CAN do something, doesn't mean you should. Use some common sense.
2014-05-05 06:29:55 PM  
2 votes:
Dear Adolescent Gun-Humpers,

You sure seem fearful. If you don't carry your guns around, are you are constantly on the verge of shiatting your pants?

Sincerely,
The Grown-Ups
2014-05-05 06:29:00 PM  
2 votes:
I know in this situation, the cops did respond, but if you call 911 and say "there's a man walking around with a big ass gun" would they just.. not respond? Because that's not particularly illegal? And if they do respond in every case, how long is it gonna take before people get tired of being questioned for carrying their big ass guns, or the cops decide you can no longer carry a big ass gun because you're freaking out the citizens?
Why would you ever think you'd need that anyway? The hell is wrong with a pistol?
2014-05-05 06:22:29 PM  
2 votes:

Callous: Isitoveryet: wow, those patriots are moar patriotic than any of you could ever fake being.

they are moar patriotic than Uncle Sam snorting coke off a hookers ass through a rolled up Constitution in church while segregating teh population into income groups.

/do all Americans suffer from an inferiority complex?

No, but it appears many have an irrational fear of weapons.


Being afraid of being shot is perfectly rational.
2014-05-05 06:20:15 PM  
2 votes:
Now imagine if they had tried this at a bank instead of a fast food joint....
2014-05-05 06:15:50 PM  
2 votes:

Callous: Isitoveryet: wow, those patriots are moar patriotic than any of you could ever fake being.

they are moar patriotic than Uncle Sam snorting coke off a hookers ass through a rolled up Constitution in church while segregating teh population into income groups.

/do all Americans suffer from an inferiority complex?

No, but it appears many have an irrational fear of weapons.


no doubt the employee's were frightened, I don't think it's the weapons as much as it is the crazy person parading around with the weapon.
you may have a point though, seems like a public display of guns has been associated with criminal activity, like, they only type people who walk into fast food restaurants brandishing weapons, are crazy people.
2014-05-05 06:14:00 PM  
2 votes:

Ashyukun: Best case scenario would be two different groups of brandishing assholes deciding to 'demonstrate' at the same place at the same time without any knowledge that the other group was coming or even existed...


Yeah!  I wonder what these guys would have thought if a group of 12 Mexicans or Black guys came in the place with their AR-15s and AK-47s fully loaded and strapped and ready to go?

Think anyone would spill some urine?

--
K
2014-05-05 06:13:37 PM  
2 votes:
You know, a sidearm is one thing...some doof had one strapped on his leg in the produce department of my local grocery store on Saturday...but walking in with an AR like the idiot on the left side of the photo should be considered brandishing and he should be cited.

IMHO
2014-05-05 06:03:09 PM  
2 votes:
"F the safety of your kids and family I have a point to prove!"
2014-05-05 06:02:38 PM  
2 votes:
What a brave bunch of patriots.  Something of great importance was surely accomplished on this day.
2014-05-05 05:23:00 PM  
2 votes:
One of the demonstrators, Edwin Haros, said that they weren't breaking any laws or trying to scare anybody

What you're trying to do and what you actually accomplish may be two very different things.
2014-05-05 05:05:58 PM  
2 votes:
I bet they all ordered Bacon Ultimate cheeseburgers....
2014-05-05 04:53:34 PM  
2 votes:

Mugato: Too bad someone with a CCP wasn't there the shoot them


I.e. a hero who stopped an impending robbery.

Unless they shot him first. Then they're heroes who used reasonable force against a deadly threat. Remember, whoever lives to write history is the hero.
2014-05-06 10:16:40 PM  
1 votes:

Scrotastic Method: Callous: Scrotastic Method: Callous: I only carry concealed.  I do my best to stay away from places that feel I need to carry in but sometimes it's somewhere I have to go.

Aha! Hypocrite. So your innocent time at the range really IS preparation to shoot at a person, if need be, and your gun is really is more to you than a simple recreational tool. You farking dishonest dickhead.

If you think simple marksmanship prepares you for a self defense situation you are grossly under informed.

And if you think concealed carrying a firearm in a place you think might be scary isn't directly at odds with your "guns are hobbies and have nothing to do with shooting people for me" claims, you're either stupid or a liar.


I never said that.  I said they have more than one purpose.
2014-05-06 09:58:32 PM  
1 votes:

Bonzo_1116: but the fact remains that the primary design intent for firearms is to kill things.


Maybe, but amazingly enough they're responsible for a lot less death than things whose supposed primary design is for something other than killing things.
2014-05-06 06:05:12 PM  
1 votes:

Bonzo_1116: Callous: Scrotastic Method: Callous: So how many humans did the two of you kill?

Don't forget to bold the rest of the quote: "in case some craziness occurred and she needed to know how these things worked -- because I didn't want her to have an irrational fear of weapons. "

Yes. She should know how a deadly weapon that's not uncommon in our society works. If I fight with a guy with a gun, if there's a zombie apocalypse, if some action movie-type crap happens in our life and she needs to know how to handle a gun, I want her to know. Yet there are zero firearms in our home. Because I don't expect to ever actually have to kill a human.

You said they are only good for killing humans.  You also said you taught her how to use one.  How many humans did the two of you kill?  Or are they actually good for something other than killing humans?


Guns are great for practicing for killing humans, too!  This is why most shooting ranges sell you the paper targets with the convienient human shape printed right on there, with the highest points marked on the spots that kill people the best.

Seriously, yes guns and cars are both tools---and are both dangerous to bystanders and operators if mishandled.  But you're being deliberately obtuse to pretend that the primary design goal of a gun *isn't* to be killing people and animals quickly at a distance.  That's why people invented the things in the first place.  The fact that it's fun to shoot at targets and blast apart watermelons is just a side benefit.


In my experience target shooting is their primary use.  Billions of rounds are fired every year, yet there aren't billions of people and animals shot.
2014-05-06 06:01:40 PM  
1 votes:

Scrotastic Method: Callous: Scrotastic Method: Callous: So how many humans did the two of you kill?

Don't forget to bold the rest of the quote: "in case some craziness occurred and she needed to know how these things worked -- because I didn't want her to have an irrational fear of weapons. "

Yes. She should know how a deadly weapon that's not uncommon in our society works. If I fight with a guy with a gun, if there's a zombie apocalypse, if some action movie-type crap happens in our life and she needs to know how to handle a gun, I want her to know. Yet there are zero firearms in our home. Because I don't expect to ever actually have to kill a human.

You said they are only good for killing humans.  You also said you taught her how to use one.  How many humans did the two of you kill?  Or are they actually good for something other than killing humans?

In my previous response I listed three examples of situations where I'd be okay with her shooting something -- to save my (or really any) life, to kill a zombie, or some unforeseen bizarre/statistically improbable situation from the movies.

Note that the Jack in the Box guys we're talking about had no reasonable expectation any of that would happen to them, so I'm still firmly against their dick gun waving, but it's not a wholly unreasonable position I have: in favor of stricter gun control yet still wanting people I care about to know how to handle a gun.


So you're okay with people being able to defend themselves only in places you approve of and only with the tools you approve of.  Everyone else just gets to be a victim.

You still didn't answer my question.  How many humans did you and you wife kill?  Or was your statement ridiculous hyperbole and they are useful for more than just killing humans?
2014-05-06 01:15:49 AM  
1 votes:
Another potential title to the story: "A Dozen Men with Small Penises Walk into a Jack in the Box"
2014-05-05 09:58:07 PM  
1 votes:

Mikey1969: Only a moron thinks that a gun just sitting there is "dangerous". It requires an outside force acting upon it.


Like a three-year-old.

/time2repeal2
2014-05-05 09:15:56 PM  
1 votes:
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"...now imagine they're arab"
2014-05-05 08:57:18 PM  
1 votes:
I have a joke:
Three men walk into a fast food restaurant carrying each carrying  an AR15 on their back.
They walk up to the cashier and start to order.
The manager walks up and says, "I am sorry, but I will have to ask you to leave."
The leader of the group asks "Do you have a sign prohibiting guns?"
Manager says "no, we don't prohibit weapons"
Another man holding an AR asks, "Are you afraid of people lawfully demonstrating their right to bear arms?"
The manager answers, "I actually own several guns"
The third man holding an AR says "I am hungry, can I put my gun in my trunk and come back in to order?"
The manager says, "no, I am sorry.  Please leave now!"
The leader asks "then what do you have against us?"
The manager replies "Look on the door, we reserve the right to not serve people that act like assholes."
2014-05-05 08:38:50 PM  
1 votes:
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Sure it wasn't Los Pollos Hermanos?


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2014-05-05 08:15:53 PM  
1 votes:

Bonzo_1116: grimlock1972: My first thought is they came to avenge those killed by food poisoning at Jack in the box in he 1990s.

Seriously if all your wanting to do is demonstrate your right to openly carry do it with less scary guns  gentlemen, Rifles ( especially assault style) and shot guns tend to scare the fark our of people,   Pistols so long as the are holstered not as much.

I know its your right to do so but some common sense can keep the cops from hassling you.


I always thought this attitude was a bit backwards.  Handguns are far and away more commonly used to kill people in non-warfare settings.  I see a long gun and I think "Oooo, he's going out into the desert to plink the hell out of an old toilet!" or "Dove hunting!".

 But if I see somebody with a pistol, it makes me wonder *who* not *what* he's looking to point the thing at.


I only think that if i see some one loading them into a truck or SUV not when some yahoo carries them into a fast food place, when i see that , the first thing that would come to my mind is along the lines of " Fark shiats gonna get real!" or "shiat , why did they have to pick this place to rob?"  I sure as hell would dial 911.
2014-05-05 08:00:55 PM  
1 votes:

Stratohead: honestly by Texas law I am allowed to keep a loaded pistol in my car ...basically all the time without the need for a CCP. So if I saw someone scumbag approach my truck while toting a long gun...and I "stood my ground" and shot them dead...what happens then?


You go to jail for murder.
2014-05-05 07:57:24 PM  
1 votes:

firemanbuck: You know, a sidearm is one thing...some doof had one strapped on his leg in the produce department of my local grocery store on Saturday...but walking in with an AR like the idiot on the left side of the photo should be considered brandishing and he should be cited.


One of the reasons this group does this is because Texas has frakked up gun laws that make it legal to openly carry around a long gun (rifle), but illegal to do so with a pistol.  Texas is one of nine states that prohibits the open carry of a pistol.

But yeah, they are protesting a frakked law in a frakked way.
2014-05-05 07:56:13 PM  
1 votes:

zarker: The Flexecutioner: zarker: The Flexecutioner: BINGO! that's the point these guys are making.  It's totally LEGAL to adorn yourself with guns in public.  They wanted to show that the public could lose their shiat over this and react poorly to a completely legal action.  These guys arent out to scare people but show you how the law itself will scare people.  The law itself.

They didn't "react poorly". They reacted in a way that is completely reasonable to react. I'm not sure how the law is the scary part, unless you mean it's scary that men are allowed to carry murder machines around to public places.

thanks, you answered your own question.

Scaring the piss out of everyone isn't going to show them they shouldn't be scared


ah, i see you are capable of missing every point.  carry on.
2014-05-05 07:55:16 PM  
1 votes:

grimlock1972: My first thought is they came to avenge those killed by food poisoning at Jack in the box in he 1990s.

Seriously if all your wanting to do is demonstrate your right to openly carry do it with less scary guns  gentlemen, Rifles ( especially assault style) and shot guns tend to scare the fark our of people,   Pistols so long as the are holstered not as much.

I know its your right to do so but some common sense can keep the cops from hassling you.



I always thought this attitude was a bit backwards.  Handguns are far and away more commonly used to kill people in non-warfare settings.  I see a long gun and I think "Oooo, he's going out into the desert to plink the hell out of an old toilet!" or "Dove hunting!".

 But if I see somebody with a pistol, it makes me wonder *who* not *what* he's looking to point the thing at.
2014-05-05 07:50:10 PM  
1 votes:
My first thought is they came to avenge those killed by food poisoning at Jack in the box in he 1990s.

Seriously if all your wanting to do is demonstrate your right to openly carry do it with less scary guns  gentlemen, Rifles ( especially assault style) and shot guns tend to scare the fark our of people,   Pistols so long as the are holstered not as much.

I know its your right to do so but some common sense can keep the cops from hassling you.
2014-05-05 07:48:37 PM  
1 votes:

Callous: loaba: Callous: loaba: Callous: loaba: Callous: JuggleGeek: Callous: So you want the police to harass people for doing totally legal things that you don't like?

And you want the police to be stuck spending all their time responding to assholes who get off on carrying rifles around to scare people.

So if racist arseholes kept calling the cops on every black person they saw "because we thought he/she was going to rob the place" you would be okay with the cops harassing black people to keep them away?

Or does this practice only apply to groups of people you don't like?

Wait, you mean you have a choice to be black?

Please explain how that has anything to do with it.

Please explain how a black person walking into a place is the same thing as a group of armed men walking into a place.

They both have the right to do what they did.

Being black isn't a right and it's wrong to deny them access, based solely on their race. While it is a right to wheel your long gun into a store, it is not wrong (meaning discriminatory) if you're asked to leave.

That's the difference. Call the cops on the black guy, for nothing other than race. Get sued. Have fun with that.

Ok, so you do approve of treating groups of people you don't like differently.


Remember their farking faces, and deny them service when they aren't carrying a gun as well.
2014-05-05 07:36:54 PM  
1 votes:

The Flexecutioner: loaba: Callous: loaba: Callous: JuggleGeek: Callous: So you want the police to harass people for doing totally legal things that you don't like?

And you want the police to be stuck spending all their time responding to assholes who get off on carrying rifles around to scare people.

So if racist arseholes kept calling the cops on every black person they saw "because we thought he/she was going to rob the place" you would be okay with the cops harassing black people to keep them away?

Or does this practice only apply to groups of people you don't like?

Wait, you mean you have a choice to be black?

Please explain how that has anything to do with it.

Please explain how a black person walking into a place is the same thing as a group of armed men walking into a place.

Both actions are legal and both had the cops called on them for the mere perception of possible harm.


Yeah but one is entirely avoidable. It's expected that people are gonna worry about a guy with a gun. It's acceptable behavior to be afraid of the guy with a gun. It shouldn't be expected that someone would fear a black guy, and it's generally not accepted behavior to be afraid of a black guy.
It's not his fault people are scared of him, he didn't chose to be black. However, if you chose to bring a gun, you're gonna freak people out.
2014-05-05 07:31:06 PM  
1 votes:
2014-05-05 07:22:39 PM  
1 votes:

Callous: So if racist arseholes kept calling the cops on every black person they saw "because we thought he/she was going to rob the place" you would be okay with the cops harassing black people to keep them away?

Or does this practice only apply to groups of people you don't like?


Sorry, you racist asshole, but being the color you are born is not the same as choosing to threaten people with your rifle.
2014-05-05 07:15:45 PM  
1 votes:

The Flexecutioner: oh, they were waving them around?


They were doing their damn best to make sure everyone knew they had guns.

This isn't the same as someone carrying in a holster.
2014-05-05 07:14:21 PM  
1 votes:

Callous: So you want the police to harass people for doing totally legal things that you don't like?


And you want the police to be stuck spending all their time responding to assholes who get off on carrying rifles around to scare people.
2014-05-05 07:13:19 PM  
1 votes:

Enemabag Jones: I see 'no guns' in businesses all the time. How is this any different then 'no shoes, no shirt, no dice'?


He's going to keep lying about how he can carry his dick gun with him and nobody can say anything.

Wiki has a "Gun Laws In Texas" page.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Texas#30.06_signage

TPC section 30.06 covers "Trespass by a person licensed to carry a concealed handgun". It allows a residential or commercial landowner to post signage that preemptively bars licensed persons from entering the premises while carrying concealed. It is a Class A misdemeanor to fail to heed compliant signage.
2014-05-05 07:12:57 PM  
1 votes:

Marcus Aurelius: I want to see your gun about as much as I want to see your penis.  As in not at all.  So put that shiat away.


Their guns are their penises.
2014-05-05 07:12:09 PM  
1 votes:

JuggleGeek: Bit'O'Gristle: /they HAVE to respond. Every time. No, a "man with a gun" doesn't actually mean a law has been broken, but the police are obligated to check it out.  So yes, they waste their time and taxpayer money, giving these people the attention they want, on your buck.

And what happens is there were, oh, say a couple of thousand people doing it every day?  The article says "Dallas/Ft Worth", which doesn't do a lot to narrow it down, but in that area, there are millions of people.  A couple of thousand people is a tiny fraction, but it's enough that the cops couldn't get much else done.

I like their "We can do anything we want since it isn't illegal" plan.  Lets see how we can turn that around.

I think the cops should say "Yep, it's legal for you to do that, but you're being a jerk, and you're going to get treated like a jerk".

The next day, the guy leaves for work, gets pulled over.  Cop tells him "Looked like you were weaving, we're going to need to test you for alcohol.  We're going downtown".  If the guy passes the breathalyzer, let him go.  By then, of course, he's late for work - but that's his problem, and the cop, much like the asshole carrying the gun, did nothing illegal.

The next day, pull him over again.

And if he's set on continuing to be an asshole carrying a gun, he can get harassed every damn day.

Not to mention that if the guy drives a few miles an hour over the limit, ticket.  Rolls through a stop sign?  Ticket.  Accelerates just a little too fast?  Ticket.


So you want the police to harass people for doing totally legal things that you don't like?
2014-05-05 07:07:15 PM  
1 votes:

The Flexecutioner: these pro guns guys wanted everyone to know that all it will take is a few TERRIBLE misunderstandings to cause public panic. luckily this one didnt turn sour. when the cops came everything was good, they were legal, and that particular store manager mightve learned some kind of lesson on how not to overreact. either way, it was a good illustration of how a law might not have totally been thought threw.


How did the manager overreact?  Calling the cops when people start waving guns around is overreacting?
2014-05-05 07:05:05 PM  
1 votes:

JuggleGeek: The next day, the guy leaves for work, gets pulled over.  Cop tells him "Looked like you were weaving, we're going to need to test you for alcohol.  We're going downtown".  If the guy passes the breathalyzer, let him go.  By then, of course, he's late for work - but that's his problem, and the cop, much like the asshole carrying the gun, did nothing illegal.

The next day, pull him over again.

And if he's set on continuing to be an asshole carrying a gun, he can get harassed every damn day.


Yeah, that'd be illegal.
2014-05-05 07:03:51 PM  
1 votes:

Bit'O'Gristle: JuggleGeek: Bit'O'Gristle: /Ya, that doesn't work so well. It has been tried. You can't tell someone they are trespassing, when its a public access building like a fast food joint. There have been may court cases.

It's not trespassing when they walk in - but once you tell them to leave, if they refuse, it's trespassing.

Vagrants walk into restaurants and start asking people for money.  The restaurants tell them to GTFO.  If they don't leave, the cops will arrest them.  This is the same thing - someone is told "You aren't welcome here", and if they won't leave, the cops will deal with it.

To me, a rifle in your hand is very, very different that a pistol in your holster.  the only reason you have that gun in your hand is to be a threat.  I'm not going to treat you like a customer while you threaten me.

/i hear what you are saying, but the vagrants were breaking the law by panhadeling ...which is a crime. Walking into a public place "access" with a legal weapon is not agasint the law, and they are bound by law to serve them.  The myth of "i dont have to serve you" has been taken to court many times. If they would have thrown them out, they would have opened themselves to litigation.


What if their very presence is causing a scene? They walk in, a couple of senior ladies start screeching and waving their arms around, so management asks them to leave. These guys definitely caused a scene, considering the damn employees panicked and ran for the hills. Employees are a lot easier to settle down than little old ladies though.
2014-05-05 07:03:35 PM  
1 votes:

Bit'O'Gristle: /they HAVE to respond. Every time. No, a "man with a gun" doesn't actually mean a law has been broken, but the police are obligated to check it out.  So yes, they waste their time and taxpayer money, giving these people the attention they want, on your buck.


And what happens is there were, oh, say a couple of thousand people doing it every day?  The article says "Dallas/Ft Worth", which doesn't do a lot to narrow it down, but in that area, there are millions of people.  A couple of thousand people is a tiny fraction, but it's enough that the cops couldn't get much else done.

I like their "We can do anything we want since it isn't illegal" plan.  Lets see how we can turn that around.

I think the cops should say "Yep, it's legal for you to do that, but you're being a jerk, and you're going to get treated like a jerk".

The next day, the guy leaves for work, gets pulled over.  Cop tells him "Looked like you were weaving, we're going to need to test you for alcohol.  We're going downtown".  If the guy passes the breathalyzer, let him go.  By then, of course, he's late for work - but that's his problem, and the cop, much like the asshole carrying the gun, did nothing illegal.

The next day, pull him over again.

And if he's set on continuing to be an asshole carrying a gun, he can get harassed every damn day.

Not to mention that if the guy drives a few miles an hour over the limit, ticket.  Rolls through a stop sign?  Ticket.  Accelerates just a little too fast?  Ticket.
2014-05-05 07:02:00 PM  
1 votes:
Bit'O'Gristle
/i hear what you are saying, but the vagrants were breaking the law by panhadeling ...which is a crime. Walking into a public place "access" with a legal weapon is not agasint the law, and they are bound by law to serve them. The myth of "i dont have to serve you" has been taken to court many times. If they would have thrown them out, they would have opened themselves to litigation.


I see 'no guns' in businesses all the time. How is this any different then 'no shoes, no shirt, no dice'?
2014-05-05 07:00:53 PM  
1 votes:
i love this.  of course many will completely miss the point they were making but i do love this.  it illustrates perfectly how most of society simply wont be prepared for such a completely lawful gathering.  they specifically wanted to see what people would think if 10+ people came in all adorned visibly with guns, and not just pistols.  sure, they really didnt want to 'scare' but they werent so naive as to know they wouldnt.  the average store manager generally isnt equipped to handle any basic human altercation let alone one like this.

these pro guns guys wanted everyone to know that all it will take is a few TERRIBLE misunderstandings to cause public panic.  luckily this one didnt turn sour.  when the cops came everything was good, they were legal, and that particular store manager mightve learned some kind of lesson on how not to overreact.   either way, it was a good illustration of how a law might not have totally been thought threw.
2014-05-05 06:57:52 PM  
1 votes:

Slaves2Darkness: It occurs to me that following those guys back to their car, sticking a pistol their head and stealing their rifles would net you what 2-300 dollars a pop? Hell I bet they have backup rifles in their car.


Oh, MUCH more than that. Ever since we elected a filthy mulatto as President  and the WORMS (White Old Rural Male Southerners) collectively shiat themselves AR prices have shot through the roof. Expect to pay at least $800
2014-05-05 06:57:45 PM  
1 votes:

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Oh, just look at all the pants-pissing CCs(Cowardly Carrys) in this thread quaking in the shadow of Real Men.

[www.opencarrytexas.org image 850x566]

j/k


USA Bodysuit Man needs to take it down a notch.
2014-05-05 06:55:24 PM  
1 votes:
Bit'O'Gristle
/Ya, that doesn't work so well. It has been tried. You can't tell someone they are trespassing, when its a public access building like a fast food joint. There have been may court cases.


www.safetysupplywarehouse.com
2014-05-05 06:54:33 PM  
1 votes:
I wonder what would happen if a bunch of Black guys or people dressed in traditional Saudi clothes walked in to a fast food place with AKs.
I kinda doubt the police or they typical open carry twatpimple would say "They were just exercising their rights."
2014-05-05 06:54:02 PM  
1 votes:
As a lover of things that go BOOM, I wish these ass wipe inbred worthless waste of resources would just accidentally shoot each other.
2014-05-05 06:52:11 PM  
1 votes:
I would have the exact same reaction to that group walking in to a fast-food restaurant with long arms, as I would if they were wearing string bikinis.

sure, they're *allowed* to wear string bikinis to Jack in the Box.  but why the fark would they *want* to?
2014-05-05 06:48:20 PM  
1 votes:
You know... Maybe if they wore suits and kinda looked bad ass respectable I might be able to support such shenanigans. They look like the typical neck beard white trash 'murica type hooligans and are unrepresentative (or God I hope so) of the majority of American gun owners. Carrying a side arm is one thing but damn really. What could possibly happen at a Jack in the Box that would require a rifle. Just sayn'.
2014-05-05 06:37:13 PM  
1 votes:
They went to Jack in the Box instead of Taco Bell because Jack in the Box only uses "100% Stand Your Ground Beef."
2014-05-05 06:27:13 PM  
1 votes:

Bit'O'Gristle: And note to the employees? Armed robbers generally dont walk into a store with slung rifles, in a large group, and just stand there waiting to order. Criminals tend to HIDE their weapons, and pull them out suddenly. You being startled is understandable, but hiding in the back when it was obvious they were just wanting to order was a bit pussy.


I'm glad we have an eye witness here to tell us what really happened. I'm glad you can tell us first-hand that a bunch of guys with high-powered weapons walking into your place of business is nothing to be alarmed about, and that it's far better to assume no ill intent from burly assholes with the capacity to kill with with a twitch of their finger.
2014-05-05 06:26:08 PM  
1 votes:

nijika: carrying fully loaded rifles around a family restaurant


Well they knew better than to go to a convenience store or mom and pop joint, they would have gotten blown away.
2014-05-05 06:13:36 PM  
1 votes:
I have no problem with people exercising their right to carry a firearm for self defense. Granted, there is no actual valid reason to walk about with an AK or a G3 or FN over your back, but...its within the law, though kinda attention whorish. If you are serious about carry, and wish to do so, try a pancake holster with a .45 so you don't alarm the masses. Just because you CAN do something, doesn't mean you should.

/And note to the employees? Armed robbers generally dont walk into a store with slung rifles, in a large group, and just stand there waiting to order. Criminals tend to HIDE their weapons, and pull them out suddenly. You being startled is understandable, but hiding in the back when it was obvious they were just wanting to order was a bit pussy.
2014-05-05 06:04:12 PM  
1 votes:
I'm going to start carrying around a halberd.
Nowhere in the Constitution does it specify firearms.
2014-05-05 06:01:37 PM  
1 votes:
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2014-05-05 04:59:23 PM  
1 votes:

Theaetetus: Mugato: Too bad someone with a CCP wasn't there the shoot them

I.e. a hero who stopped an impending robbery.

Unless they shot him first. Then they're heroes who used reasonable force against a deadly threat. Remember, whoever lives to write history is the hero.


Best case scenario would be two different groups of brandishing assholes deciding to 'demonstrate' at the same place at the same time without any knowledge that the other group was coming or even existed...
 
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