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2014-05-05 07:31:56 PM  

loaba: Callous: loaba: Callous: JuggleGeek: Callous: So you want the police to harass people for doing totally legal things that you don't like?

And you want the police to be stuck spending all their time responding to assholes who get off on carrying rifles around to scare people.

So if racist arseholes kept calling the cops on every black person they saw "because we thought he/she was going to rob the place" you would be okay with the cops harassing black people to keep them away?

Or does this practice only apply to groups of people you don't like?

Wait, you mean you have a choice to be black?

Please explain how that has anything to do with it.

Please explain how a black person walking into a place is the same thing as a group of armed men walking into a place.


Both actions are legal and both had the cops called on them for the mere perception of possible harm.
 
2014-05-05 07:32:31 PM  

The Flexecutioner: these guys weren't choosing to threaten people with their rifles.  stop inaccurately describing the scenario to fit your outrage.


Why did the employees hide and call the cops?

Because they felt threatened.  Which is exactly what the gun nuts wanted.
 
2014-05-05 07:34:36 PM  
Asshole rule: Assholes just become bigger assholes...Next they'll be showing up at church with their guns
 
2014-05-05 07:35:01 PM  

trevzie: These guys are American heroes. There would be zero mass shootings if 5% of the population was packing heat.


I'm fine with "packing heat".  In your holster, I'm fine with it.  I see it quite often, too.  Doesn't bother me a bit, I hardly notice.

A rifle in your hand is a different story.  Any gun in your hand is quite different from one in a holster.
 
2014-05-05 07:35:59 PM  

JuggleGeek: The Flexecutioner: these guys weren't choosing to threaten people with their rifles.  stop inaccurately describing the scenario to fit your outrage.

Why did the employees hide and call the cops?

Because they felt threatened.  Which is exactly what the gun nuts wanted.


And now you can read the minds of people in a picture?
 
2014-05-05 07:36:32 PM  

Callous: loaba: Callous: loaba: Callous: JuggleGeek: Callous: So you want the police to harass people for doing totally legal things that you don't like?

And you want the police to be stuck spending all their time responding to assholes who get off on carrying rifles around to scare people.

So if racist arseholes kept calling the cops on every black person they saw "because we thought he/she was going to rob the place" you would be okay with the cops harassing black people to keep them away?

Or does this practice only apply to groups of people you don't like?

Wait, you mean you have a choice to be black?

Please explain how that has anything to do with it.

Please explain how a black person walking into a place is the same thing as a group of armed men walking into a place.

They both have the right to do what they did.


Being black isn't a right and it's wrong to deny them access, based solely on their race. While it is a right to wheel your long gun into a store, it is not wrong (meaning discriminatory) if you're asked to leave.

That's the difference. Call the cops on the black guy, for nothing other than race. Get sued. Have fun with that.
 
2014-05-05 07:36:41 PM  

JuggleGeek: The Flexecutioner: these guys weren't choosing to threaten people with their rifles.  stop inaccurately describing the scenario to fit your outrage.

Why did the employees hide and call the cops?

Because they felt threatened.  Which is exactly what the gun nuts wanted.


geez.  you simply dont understand the definition of threaten.  people THINK they are being threatened when they are not being threatened.  ya know, like how an old white lady clutches the purse when a black man gets into the same elevator.  she THINKS he's going to rob her but he actually is just going to some floor and the whole time not doing anything even remotely threatening other than being black.
 
2014-05-05 07:36:54 PM  

The Flexecutioner: loaba: Callous: loaba: Callous: JuggleGeek: Callous: So you want the police to harass people for doing totally legal things that you don't like?

And you want the police to be stuck spending all their time responding to assholes who get off on carrying rifles around to scare people.

So if racist arseholes kept calling the cops on every black person they saw "because we thought he/she was going to rob the place" you would be okay with the cops harassing black people to keep them away?

Or does this practice only apply to groups of people you don't like?

Wait, you mean you have a choice to be black?

Please explain how that has anything to do with it.

Please explain how a black person walking into a place is the same thing as a group of armed men walking into a place.

Both actions are legal and both had the cops called on them for the mere perception of possible harm.


Yeah but one is entirely avoidable. It's expected that people are gonna worry about a guy with a gun. It's acceptable behavior to be afraid of the guy with a gun. It shouldn't be expected that someone would fear a black guy, and it's generally not accepted behavior to be afraid of a black guy.
It's not his fault people are scared of him, he didn't chose to be black. However, if you chose to bring a gun, you're gonna freak people out.
 
2014-05-05 07:40:06 PM  

loaba: Callous: loaba: Callous: loaba: Callous: JuggleGeek: Callous: So you want the police to harass people for doing totally legal things that you don't like?

And you want the police to be stuck spending all their time responding to assholes who get off on carrying rifles around to scare people.

So if racist arseholes kept calling the cops on every black person they saw "because we thought he/she was going to rob the place" you would be okay with the cops harassing black people to keep them away?

Or does this practice only apply to groups of people you don't like?

Wait, you mean you have a choice to be black?

Please explain how that has anything to do with it.

Please explain how a black person walking into a place is the same thing as a group of armed men walking into a place.

They both have the right to do what they did.

Being black isn't a right and it's wrong to deny them access, based solely on their race. While it is a right to wheel your long gun into a store, it is not wrong (meaning discriminatory) if you're asked to leave.

That's the difference. Call the cops on the black guy, for nothing other than race. Get sued. Have fun with that.


Ok, so you do approve of treating groups of people you don't like differently.
 
2014-05-05 07:40:06 PM  

JuggleGeek: trevzie: These guys are American heroes. There would be zero mass shootings if 5% of the population was packing heat.

I'm fine with "packing heat".  In your holster, I'm fine with it.  I see it quite often, too.  Doesn't bother me a bit, I hardly notice.

A rifle in your hand is a different story.  Any gun in your hand is quite different from one in a holster.



That's pretty sensible. It is a bit needlessly provocative to have it so clearly in the open.

However you do have to give it to these guys, it was some pretty impressive real life trolling.
 
2014-05-05 07:40:25 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: pedrop357: I wonder if people in Israel lose their mind when they see people walking around everywhere with M16s

Probably not.

Israel limits gun ownership to security workers, people who transport valuables or explosives, residents of the West Bank, and hunters. People who don't fall into one of those categories cannot obtain a firearm permit. Moreover, Israel rejects 40 percent of firearm permit applicants, the highest rejection rate in the Western world. Both Switzerland and Israel require yearly (or more frequent) permit renewals to insure that the reasons are still applicable.



The guy selling popsicles out of the little cart near my aunt's house in Herzliyya Beach was packing heat.  Looked like a 9mm, and it was proudly displayed above a magnificently hairly plumber's special when he bent down into the freezer to get you your icecreams.

Probably a reservist, allowed to carry because icecream man is a cash business, yo.
 
2014-05-05 07:41:38 PM  

zarker: The Flexecutioner: loaba: Callous: loaba: Callous: JuggleGeek: Callous: So you want the police to harass people for doing totally legal things that you don't like?

And you want the police to be stuck spending all their time responding to assholes who get off on carrying rifles around to scare people.

So if racist arseholes kept calling the cops on every black person they saw "because we thought he/she was going to rob the place" you would be okay with the cops harassing black people to keep them away?

Or does this practice only apply to groups of people you don't like?

Wait, you mean you have a choice to be black?

Please explain how that has anything to do with it.

Please explain how a black person walking into a place is the same thing as a group of armed men walking into a place.

Both actions are legal and both had the cops called on them for the mere perception of possible harm.

Yeah but one is entirely avoidable. It's expected that people are gonna worry about a guy with a gun. It's acceptable behavior to be afraid of the guy with a gun. It shouldn't be expected that someone would fear a black guy, and it's generally not accepted behavior to be afraid of a black guy.
It's not his fault people are scared of him, he didn't chose to be black. However, if you chose to bring a gun, you're gonna freak people out.


BINGO! that's the point these guys are making.  It's totally LEGAL to adorn yourself with guns in public.  They wanted to show that the public could lose their shiat over this and react poorly to a completely legal action.  These guys arent out to scare people but show you how the law itself will scare people.  The law itself.
 
2014-05-05 07:42:43 PM  

Theaetetus: JuggleGeek: Theaetetus: Yeah, that'd be illegal.

It's illegal for the cops to give someone a breath test?

It's illegal for them to give a guy a ticket if he speeds?

I don't think so.

Is it illegal for cops to stop someone without reasonable suspicion? Is it illegal for cops to engage in a pattern of harassment and falsification of reports?
Oh, yeah, it is.

Seriously, do you think judges are retarded?


El Thiso
 
2014-05-05 07:43:07 PM  
Let's ignore the whole "militia" part of the amendment for a second, because the bought-out courts decided to...let's just say it's a right to carry a weapon any time, any place. That doesn't change that it's still a horrible goddamn idea to walk around with a firearm out for all to see -- having a gun when you are not busy being a uniformed police officer, soldier, or security guard is announcing to the world that you are dangerous. The only reason to carry a weapon is to be dangerous.

And there are times for that. When you are the Black Panthers and you're tired of centuries of government-sanctioned oppression, then you announce that you're prepared to fight back. When you're a colonist and you find the treatment of your homeland untenable, you fight back.

However, when you're going out for a goddamn snack there's nothing that should indicate you would need to prepare for lethal combat. It's not just paranoia, it's paranoia that harms the people around them -- because yes, the time those Jack in the Box workers spent cowering in fear is psychological harm. And "because I can," even if true, isn't reason enough to inflict harm on someone else.
 
2014-05-05 07:44:05 PM  

Callous: loaba: Callous: loaba: Callous: loaba: Callous: JuggleGeek: Callous: So you want the police to harass people for doing totally legal things that you don't like?

And you want the police to be stuck spending all their time responding to assholes who get off on carrying rifles around to scare people.

So if racist arseholes kept calling the cops on every black person they saw "because we thought he/she was going to rob the place" you would be okay with the cops harassing black people to keep them away?

Or does this practice only apply to groups of people you don't like?

Wait, you mean you have a choice to be black?

Please explain how that has anything to do with it.

Please explain how a black person walking into a place is the same thing as a group of armed men walking into a place.

They both have the right to do what they did.

Being black isn't a right and it's wrong to deny them access, based solely on their race. While it is a right to wheel your long gun into a store, it is not wrong (meaning discriminatory) if you're asked to leave.

That's the difference. Call the cops on the black guy, for nothing other than race. Get sued. Have fun with that.

Ok, so you do approve of treating groups of people you don't like differently.


Get your words out of my mouth, please.
 
2014-05-05 07:45:04 PM  

Theaetetus: spawn73: Theaetetus: JuggleGeek: The employee should have taken a pen and paper and written a note saying "We reserve the right not to serve assholes with weapons".

Or just said "GTFO, or you're trespassing." You don't need to have a specially written policy to refuse service to people carrying weapons.

farking NRA would be on them if they had done that.

They got the morons out of there, burgers in hand, live to do business with normal people another day.

Which is another point... If you scared the employees so much that they locked themselves in the freezer and waited for the cops to come, do you  really want to eat the burger they eventually bring you?


I don't think theese people rank very high on the common sense meters, so yeah, they ate their burgers. ;)
 
2014-05-05 07:45:10 PM  

The Flexecutioner: BINGO! that's the point these guys are making.  It's totally LEGAL to adorn yourself with guns in public.  They wanted to show that the public could lose their shiat over this and react poorly to a completely legal action.  These guys arent out to scare people but show you how the law itself will scare people.  The law itself.


They didn't "react poorly". They reacted in a way that is completely reasonable to react. I'm not sure how the law is the scary part, unless you mean it's scary that men are allowed to carry murder machines around to public places.
 
2014-05-05 07:45:57 PM  

Scrotastic Method: Let's ignore the whole "militia" part of the amendment for a second... When you're a colonist and you find the treatment of your homeland untenable, you fight back.


You know that when the colonists banded together to shoot at the Redcoats, they were not part of an English-government approved militia, right? ;)
 
2014-05-05 07:46:01 PM  

skyotter: spawn73: Also, some day someone is going to shoot one of those assholes.

SPOILER ALERT -- the shooter will be someone with a gun.


I think more guns will solve that, like, two guns cancel out one?
 
2014-05-05 07:47:32 PM  

Theaetetus: Scrotastic Method: Let's ignore the whole "militia" part of the amendment for a second... When you're a colonist and you find the treatment of your homeland untenable, you fight back.

You know that when the colonists banded together to shoot at the Redcoats, they were not part of an English-government approved militia, right? ;)


The colonists were totally insurgents. Funny how history repeats itself.
 
2014-05-05 07:48:28 PM  
The Flexecutioner:

BINGO! that's the point these guys are making.  It's totally LEGAL to adorn yourself with guns in public.  They wanted to show that the public could lose their shiat over this and react poorly to a completely legal action.  These guys arent out to scare people but show you how the law itself will scare people.  The law itself.

ummmm, I'm not imagining that the Open Carry advocates are wanting to repeal the laws that allow them to get a burger and fries while carrying their (hopefully) unloaded weapons.  The dudes who I saw doing this here in San Diego (it was at the Starbucks closest to the shooting range I go to) stated that they wanted to show the Starbucks staff and customers that not all people walking around with guns are scary.  They're just normal guys that want an iced coffee, and don't want to leave their guns in the truck.

It wasn't to show that the law is scary, in fact it was the opposite.  (There was also an element of trollery to it.)
 
2014-05-05 07:48:32 PM  

spawn73: I think more guns will solve that, like, two guns cancel out one?


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2014-05-05 07:48:36 PM  

zarker: The Flexecutioner: BINGO! that's the point these guys are making.  It's totally LEGAL to adorn yourself with guns in public.  They wanted to show that the public could lose their shiat over this and react poorly to a completely legal action.  These guys arent out to scare people but show you how the law itself will scare people.  The law itself.

They didn't "react poorly". They reacted in a way that is completely reasonable to react. I'm not sure how the law is the scary part, unless you mean it's scary that men are allowed to carry murder machines around to public places.


It's a bit unreasonable to call them "murder machines". I mean, what about unjustified self defense? Then they'd just be "manslaughter mechanisms".
 
2014-05-05 07:48:37 PM  

Callous: loaba: Callous: loaba: Callous: loaba: Callous: JuggleGeek: Callous: So you want the police to harass people for doing totally legal things that you don't like?

And you want the police to be stuck spending all their time responding to assholes who get off on carrying rifles around to scare people.

So if racist arseholes kept calling the cops on every black person they saw "because we thought he/she was going to rob the place" you would be okay with the cops harassing black people to keep them away?

Or does this practice only apply to groups of people you don't like?

Wait, you mean you have a choice to be black?

Please explain how that has anything to do with it.

Please explain how a black person walking into a place is the same thing as a group of armed men walking into a place.

They both have the right to do what they did.

Being black isn't a right and it's wrong to deny them access, based solely on their race. While it is a right to wheel your long gun into a store, it is not wrong (meaning discriminatory) if you're asked to leave.

That's the difference. Call the cops on the black guy, for nothing other than race. Get sued. Have fun with that.

Ok, so you do approve of treating groups of people you don't like differently.


Remember their farking faces, and deny them service when they aren't carrying a gun as well.
 
2014-05-05 07:48:47 PM  
As a rational adult, I don't worry much about people who are openly carrying firearms.  Billy Joe Bob with a deer rifle slung over his shoulder is less likely to hurt someone than an actual criminal with a knife in his pocket.  Heck, I'd rather Billy Joe Bob carry his rifle around where he can keep an eye on it than leave it in the gun rack in his truck where it's easy for a criminal to steal.  Tho, I guess in this day and age, gun racks are no longer legal.  Probably have to keep it in a locked box bolted to the bed of the truck.  With ammunition locked in a separate box also bolted to the bed of the truck.
 
2014-05-05 07:50:10 PM  
My first thought is they came to avenge those killed by food poisoning at Jack in the box in he 1990s.

Seriously if all your wanting to do is demonstrate your right to openly carry do it with less scary guns  gentlemen, Rifles ( especially assault style) and shot guns tend to scare the fark our of people,   Pistols so long as the are holstered not as much.

I know its your right to do so but some common sense can keep the cops from hassling you.
 
2014-05-05 07:51:24 PM  

zarker: The Flexecutioner: BINGO! that's the point these guys are making.  It's totally LEGAL to adorn yourself with guns in public.  They wanted to show that the public could lose their shiat over this and react poorly to a completely legal action.  These guys arent out to scare people but show you how the law itself will scare people.  The law itself.

They didn't "react poorly". They reacted in a way that is completely reasonable to react. I'm not sure how the law is the scary part, unless you mean it's scary that men are allowed to carry murder machines around to public places.


thanks, you answered your own question.
 
2014-05-05 07:52:02 PM  

Callous: Mugato: This text is now purple: The police are under no legal obligation to respond to anything.

They have to respond to every 911 call.

No they don't.


Well they do in Florida. At least that's their policy if not the law.
 
2014-05-05 07:52:56 PM  

Bit'O'Gristle: nijika: So what I find funny about this is that they suppose they are advocates but they're doing horrible PR.  They also have the hubris to assume that they won't have an accidental discharge, treating their guns like decorations.  You could argue that they might be responsible owners and they wouldn't be carrying fully loaded rifles around a family restaurant, but you know that's not how guys like this roll.  How would they be the big heroes if "it went down".

So they're strutting around with murder machines in a family joint.  Good work fellas, you've won another moral victory.

I say this as someone who is actually pro gun.

/I'm with you there, i carry concealed, as i live in a "shall issue state" now, thank god.  And if i saw some assholes parading around like this they would likely get punched in the face. As i said in a earlier post, pancake holster, .45 hidden, no need to alarm people, and still be able to defend yourself if needed.  And likewise, just because you CAN do something, doesn't mean you should. Use some common sense.


This is the second time you have mentioned a hidden 45 in a pancake holster. I'm not sure you understand the concept of "open carry" vs "carry concealed". I'll help; one is perfectly legal to do without any sort of license or training and there are practically no legal repercussions for doing it. The other requires a special class, application and background check beyond the FBI check when you purchase a gun and can result in legal issues.

the more you know.jpg
 
2014-05-05 07:53:30 PM  

The Flexecutioner: zarker: The Flexecutioner: BINGO! that's the point these guys are making.  It's totally LEGAL to adorn yourself with guns in public.  They wanted to show that the public could lose their shiat over this and react poorly to a completely legal action.  These guys arent out to scare people but show you how the law itself will scare people.  The law itself.

They didn't "react poorly". They reacted in a way that is completely reasonable to react. I'm not sure how the law is the scary part, unless you mean it's scary that men are allowed to carry murder machines around to public places.

thanks, you answered your own question.


Scaring the piss out of everyone isn't going to show them they shouldn't be scared
 
2014-05-05 07:54:13 PM  

jtown: As a rational adult, I don't worry much about people who are openly carrying firearms.  Billy Joe Bob with a deer rifle slung over his shoulder is less likely to hurt someone than an actual criminal with a knife in his pocket.  Heck, I'd rather Billy Joe Bob carry his rifle around where he can keep an eye on it than leave it in the gun rack in his truck where it's easy for a criminal to steal.  Tho, I guess in this day and age, gun racks are no longer legal.  Probably have to keep it in a locked box bolted to the bed of the truck.  With ammunition locked in a separate box also bolted to the bed of the truck.


Having driven about in East Texas (which isn't remotely the same thing as anywhere in the Metroplex), I can assure you that Billy Bob has his A.) clean dinner shirt and B.) gunned gun rack, openly on display in his truck (at all times.) And  when he does put on his clean dinner shirt, his gun does in fact stay in th truck. 'Cause he doesn't need it, to eat dinner.

These guys were being douchy, however legal being douchy was in this case. They have the right to be douches. Yay.
 
2014-05-05 07:55:16 PM  

grimlock1972: My first thought is they came to avenge those killed by food poisoning at Jack in the box in he 1990s.

Seriously if all your wanting to do is demonstrate your right to openly carry do it with less scary guns  gentlemen, Rifles ( especially assault style) and shot guns tend to scare the fark our of people,   Pistols so long as the are holstered not as much.

I know its your right to do so but some common sense can keep the cops from hassling you.



I always thought this attitude was a bit backwards.  Handguns are far and away more commonly used to kill people in non-warfare settings.  I see a long gun and I think "Oooo, he's going out into the desert to plink the hell out of an old toilet!" or "Dove hunting!".

 But if I see somebody with a pistol, it makes me wonder *who* not *what* he's looking to point the thing at.
 
2014-05-05 07:55:18 PM  

Bonzo_1116: The Flexecutioner:

BINGO! that's the point these guys are making.  It's totally LEGAL to adorn yourself with guns in public.  They wanted to show that the public could lose their shiat over this and react poorly to a completely legal action.  These guys arent out to scare people but show you how the law itself will scare people.  The law itself.

ummmm, I'm not imagining that the Open Carry advocates are wanting to repeal the laws that allow them to get a burger and fries while carrying their (hopefully) unloaded weapons.  The dudes who I saw doing this here in San Diego (it was at the Starbucks closest to the shooting range I go to) stated that they wanted to show the Starbucks staff and customers that not all people walking around with guns are scary.  They're just normal guys that want an iced coffee, and don't want to leave their guns in the truck.

It wasn't to show that the law is scary, in fact it was the opposite.  (There was also an element of trollery to it.)


sounds like different groups had different agendas.  the guys in the article certainly sounded like they had a different goal in mind.  This actually isnt a misprint:  "The men were Open Carry Firearm demonstrators who were protesting their rights to carry firearms in public."
 
2014-05-05 07:56:13 PM  

zarker: The Flexecutioner: zarker: The Flexecutioner: BINGO! that's the point these guys are making.  It's totally LEGAL to adorn yourself with guns in public.  They wanted to show that the public could lose their shiat over this and react poorly to a completely legal action.  These guys arent out to scare people but show you how the law itself will scare people.  The law itself.

They didn't "react poorly". They reacted in a way that is completely reasonable to react. I'm not sure how the law is the scary part, unless you mean it's scary that men are allowed to carry murder machines around to public places.

thanks, you answered your own question.

Scaring the piss out of everyone isn't going to show them they shouldn't be scared


ah, i see you are capable of missing every point.  carry on.
 
2014-05-05 07:57:00 PM  
So, are they any different from the Westboro Baptist Church? Sure, both groups are using and demonstrating their constitutional rights, but they still being massive dicks over it.
 
2014-05-05 07:57:24 PM  

firemanbuck: You know, a sidearm is one thing...some doof had one strapped on his leg in the produce department of my local grocery store on Saturday...but walking in with an AR like the idiot on the left side of the photo should be considered brandishing and he should be cited.


One of the reasons this group does this is because Texas has frakked up gun laws that make it legal to openly carry around a long gun (rifle), but illegal to do so with a pistol.  Texas is one of nine states that prohibits the open carry of a pistol.

But yeah, they are protesting a frakked law in a frakked way.
 
2014-05-05 07:58:26 PM  

The Flexecutioner: Bonzo_1116: The Flexecutioner:

BINGO! that's the point these guys are making.  It's totally LEGAL to adorn yourself with guns in public.  They wanted to show that the public could lose their shiat over this and react poorly to a completely legal action.  These guys arent out to scare people but show you how the law itself will scare people.  The law itself.

ummmm, I'm not imagining that the Open Carry advocates are wanting to repeal the laws that allow them to get a burger and fries while carrying their (hopefully) unloaded weapons.  The dudes who I saw doing this here in San Diego (it was at the Starbucks closest to the shooting range I go to) stated that they wanted to show the Starbucks staff and customers that not all people walking around with guns are scary.  They're just normal guys that want an iced coffee, and don't want to leave their guns in the truck.

It wasn't to show that the law is scary, in fact it was the opposite.  (There was also an element of trollery to it.)

sounds like different groups had different agendas.  the guys in the article certainly sounded like they had a different goal in mind.  This actually isnt a misprint:  "The men were Open Carry Firearm demonstrators who were protesting their rights to carry firearms in public."



shiat-tacular editing.  That probably should read that they were demonstrating their right to carry, not protesting it.
 
2014-05-05 07:59:44 PM  

Stratohead: While it is legal to do so in Texas (providing no rounds are chambered)...


Common myth often attributed to anti-poaching laws.  There is no provision of Texas law that prevents the person from having the firearm loaded.
 
2014-05-05 08:00:07 PM  

Click Click D'oh: firemanbuck: You know, a sidearm is one thing...some doof had one strapped on his leg in the produce department of my local grocery store on Saturday...but walking in with an AR like the idiot on the left side of the photo should be considered brandishing and he should be cited.

One of the reasons this group does this is because Texas has frakked up gun laws that make it legal to openly carry around a long gun (rifle), but illegal to do so with a pistol.  Texas is one of nine states that prohibits the open carry of a pistol.

But yeah, they are protesting a frakked law in a frakked way.


Really?  I thought Texas was a gun freedom Nirvana.  Arizona steals their thunder!
 
2014-05-05 08:00:38 PM  

Bonzo_1116: grimlock1972: My first thought is they came to avenge those killed by food poisoning at Jack in the box in he 1990s.

Seriously if all your wanting to do is demonstrate your right to openly carry do it with less scary guns  gentlemen, Rifles ( especially assault style) and shot guns tend to scare the fark our of people,   Pistols so long as the are holstered not as much.

I know its your right to do so but some common sense can keep the cops from hassling you.


I always thought this attitude was a bit backwards.  Handguns are far and away more commonly used to kill people in non-warfare settings.  I see a long gun and I think "Oooo, he's going out into the desert to plink the hell out of an old toilet!" or "Dove hunting!".


When did you ever see a hunter doing anything with his guns at a meal time, in town? Has it happened before? Yeah, sure, maybe. Generally speaking, most normal people realize that marching into a place, guns out, just plain looks funny. You just don't do it, 'cause it's kinda stupid, really.
 
2014-05-05 08:00:55 PM  

Stratohead: honestly by Texas law I am allowed to keep a loaded pistol in my car ...basically all the time without the need for a CCP. So if I saw someone scumbag approach my truck while toting a long gun...and I "stood my ground" and shot them dead...what happens then?


You go to jail for murder.
 
2014-05-05 08:01:23 PM  

Theaetetus: Scrotastic Method: Let's ignore the whole "militia" part of the amendment for a second... When you're a colonist and you find the treatment of your homeland untenable, you fight back.

You know that when the colonists banded together to shoot at the Redcoats, they were not part of an English-government approved militia, right? ;)


Yes, I believe that was exactly my point? That my personal belief is the 2nd Amendment has been wildly misread by the courts, and has thereby empowered these wackos to get wacky, but in any case fighting against an evil is sometimes a necessary act. I mentioned the Black Panthers: also not a "government approved militia," as the US government was, you know, actively murdering those men and women...but they were right.

Pops told me never to throw the first punch. But the times I have, I was right to do so. I have the wisdom to know better, as shown by how few punches I've thrown. And I feel the guys carrying scary weapons around are proving they don't have the wisdom to do so, simply by doing exactly that.
 
2014-05-05 08:03:27 PM  
Bonzo_1116:
shiat-tacular editing.  That probably should read that they were demonstrating their right to carry, not protesting it.

That would be funny if it wasn't editing, they were quoting the men who weren't sure what they were talking about.
Could easily flip the situation into "Look! We shouldn't be able to do this! We're striking fear into the hearts of civilians! Ban OC!"
 
2014-05-05 08:04:18 PM  

zarker: Bonzo_1116:
shiat-tacular editing.  That probably should read that they were demonstrating their right to carry, not protesting it.

That would be funny if it wasn't editing, they were quoting the men who weren't sure what they were talking about.
Could easily flip the situation into "Look! We shouldn't be able to do this! We're striking fear into the hearts of civilians! Ban OC!"


I should mention that's not what I think. Carry your stupid gun however you want, but you're gonna have to deal with the fact it's gonna startle people
 
2014-05-05 08:07:02 PM  

Bonzo_1116: The Flexecutioner: Bonzo_1116: The Flexecutioner:

BINGO! that's the point these guys are making.  It's totally LEGAL to adorn yourself with guns in public.  They wanted to show that the public could lose their shiat over this and react poorly to a completely legal action.  These guys arent out to scare people but show you how the law itself will scare people.  The law itself.

ummmm, I'm not imagining that the Open Carry advocates are wanting to repeal the laws that allow them to get a burger and fries while carrying their (hopefully) unloaded weapons.  The dudes who I saw doing this here in San Diego (it was at the Starbucks closest to the shooting range I go to) stated that they wanted to show the Starbucks staff and customers that not all people walking around with guns are scary.  They're just normal guys that want an iced coffee, and don't want to leave their guns in the truck.

It wasn't to show that the law is scary, in fact it was the opposite.  (There was also an element of trollery to it.)

sounds like different groups had different agendas.  the guys in the article certainly sounded like they had a different goal in mind.  This actually isnt a misprint:  "The men were Open Carry Firearm demonstrators who were protesting their rights to carry firearms in public."


shiat-tacular editing.  That probably should read that they were demonstrating their right to carry, not protesting it.


nope, they are saying they are NOT in favor of that law.  you can be called Open Carry demonstrators without the assumption of endorsement.  i can see how some people would misconstrue this but Rape Advocacy groups arent advocating pro rape.
 
2014-05-05 08:10:08 PM  

JuggleGeek: Enemabag Jones: I see 'no guns' in businesses all the time. How is this any different then 'no shoes, no shirt, no dice'?

He's going to keep lying about how he can carry his dick gun with him and nobody can say anything.
?
Wiki has a "Gun Laws In Texas" page.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Texas#30.06_signage

TPC section 30.06 covers "Trespass by a person licensed to carry a concealed handgun". It allows a residential or commercial landowner to post signage that preemptively bars licensed persons from entering the premises while carrying concealed. It is a Class A misdemeanor to fail to heed compliant signage.


Pray tell, how is a statute governing the signage regarding concealed carry going to affect open carry of long guns?
 
2014-05-05 08:12:07 PM  

loaba: Bonzo_1116: grimlock1972: My first thought is they came to avenge those killed by food poisoning at Jack in the box in he 1990s.

Seriously if all your wanting to do is demonstrate your right to openly carry do it with less scary guns  gentlemen, Rifles ( especially assault style) and shot guns tend to scare the fark our of people,   Pistols so long as the are holstered not as much.

I know its your right to do so but some common sense can keep the cops from hassling you.


I always thought this attitude was a bit backwards.  Handguns are far and away more commonly used to kill people in non-warfare settings.  I see a long gun and I think "Oooo, he's going out into the desert to plink the hell out of an old toilet!" or "Dove hunting!".

When did you ever see a hunter doing anything with his guns at a meal time, in town? Has it happened before? Yeah, sure, maybe. Generally speaking, most normal people realize that marching into a place, guns out, just plain looks funny. You just don't do it, 'cause it's kinda stupid, really.


Yeah, long gun people really only have their weapons going to and from hunting/target practice.  I could see not wanting to leave the guns in the car in parking lot at the Barstow McDonalds, but it would definitely be weird, that's for sure.

What I was trying to say there is that I personally find long guns a LOT less threatening than handguns.
 
2014-05-05 08:12:58 PM  

nijika: "F the safety of your kids and family I have a point to prove!"


While I think these chucklehead morons are stupid attention where's, please elaborate on how they were endangering anybody's safety.
 
2014-05-05 08:13:02 PM  

JuggleGeek: And if he's set on continuing to be an asshole carrying a gun, he can get harassed every damn day.


You aren't very up to date on how cities get sued for millions are you?
 
2014-05-05 08:14:06 PM  
"The men were Open Carry Firearm demonstrators who were protesting their rights to carry firearms in public."

Who farking gets paid to write this shiat? I'm protesting my right to ridicule TFA of TFA.
 
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