sethen320: phyrkrakr: FTFA:"This is not SpaceX protesting and saying these launches should be awarded to us," Musk said at the news conference. "We're just saying these launches should be competed. If we compete and lose, that's fine. But why would they not even compete it? That doesn't make sense."Well, that's obviously a lie, since he obviously does want the launches awarded to SpaceX. And I'm not so sure that this isn't just whining from an upstart government contractor who's pissed that the established government contractors are the ones getting the money. I like SpaceX because I think they're doing cool things, but I guess I don't fully understand what makes them different from somebody like TRW, Orbital, or Rocketdyne. And he's right, this probably should have been bid and competed for, since SpaceX thinks they have the tech to stand toe-to-toe and the contract runs for something like 30 years. But still, don't tell me you're just doing this because it's the right thing to do and you're all about fair play and sportsmanship. I know bullshiat when I hear it.I heard some inside info on this last week. Basically it's not that the gov't didn't want to give him the contracts because they don't like him. There are some contracts which SpaceX hasn't demonstrated the capability to handle yet. They very much want to have another vendor, but at this time it was considered a better idea to go with the vendor who has been doing it. They are open to SpaceX, they're just being cautious for reliability reasons At least that's what I heard, I'm not providing sources.
Tobin_Lam: ULA is pissed because they will have to lower their prices. ULA was supposed to lower prices but they've done nothing but go up. ULA is 2 major competitors deciding to work with each other. The prices increases were inevitable.
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