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(Slate)   Neil deGrasse Tyson assures us that the earth will survive global climate change. People won't, but the earth will be just fine. (Video)   (slate.com) divider line 22
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2014-05-05 02:27:23 PM  
5 votes:

Doc Daneeka: We could do our worst, and then when we're gone, whatever life remains will adapt to the new environment and eventually fill all available ecological niches.


And that new life will evolve, become intelligent, develop language, and eventually form religion. They will gaze skyward and say, "There has to be a god! How else can you explain where this perfect planet came from? It has the exact amount of arsenic in the water that we need, and the atmosphere holds in the heat to keep us at a constant 150F. It was DESIGNED, I tell you!"
2014-05-05 01:51:16 PM  
3 votes:
"The planet is fine, the people are farked" - George Carlin
2014-05-05 01:45:52 PM  
3 votes:

EvilEgg: Even if 99% of us go that's still 71 million left.

The thing is, our decline will be so painful and tragic that the living will envy the dead.  And it will be 100% preventable if we merely applied the knowledge we have today.  Not only are people refusing to learn, they're openly fighting it.
2014-05-05 12:45:14 PM  
3 votes:
Carlin said it first.
2014-05-05 02:19:42 PM  
2 votes:

Doc Daneeka: Of course the Earth will survive us.  Did anyone think otherwise?

We couldn't destroy the Earth even if we tried  Not if we polluted far more than we do not.  Not if we detonated all of our nukes at once.  No matter what we do.

We could easily cause our own extinction, and take a lot of other species down with us.  But we can't destroy the Earth itself.  Nor could we destroy all life on Earth.  We could do our worst, and then when we're gone, whatever life remains will adapt to the new environment and eventually fill all available ecological niches.


I've been saying this for years: the earth was floating serenely through space for millions of years before we sprang up, and it will continue to float serenely through space for millions of years after we and all of our descendants are dead and gone. People who exhort others to "Save the Planet" have always irritated me because the planet doesn't need saving. It never has, and it never will. Humans (and other living things) may very well need saving. But the planet will be here regardless.
2014-05-05 01:45:07 PM  
2 votes:

Best Princess Celestia: Been saying that for years.

We have survived; but we have never asked are we worthy of survival.


Only a self-aware idiot would ask that question.

The rest of us just continue with our existence.  Because we *CAN*.
2014-05-05 01:24:11 PM  
2 votes:
i1214.photobucket.com

"You don't f*cking say."
2014-05-06 05:28:29 PM  
1 votes:

Damnhippyfreak: While you don't have to take the issue seriously, you do give up a certain claim to the rational, evidence-driven high ground when you do so.


And Fark is definitely the place to post rational arguments. Because everyone on here is very mature and logical and accepting of alternative viewpoints.

LOL, Just kidding. Fark threads are basically like a Pedophile running a preschool. It is always a mistake to expect a serious rational discussion in here. Especially if the Fark peanut gallery doesn't agree with you.
2014-05-06 05:02:42 PM  
1 votes:
How dare us deniers not take this VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE seriously! Who do we think we are? Global Warming™ is an extremely important issue that we should be very concerned about. And it is profoundly offensive that we do not take it as seriously as you do.

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2014-05-06 03:53:02 PM  
1 votes:
Yes, I've heard all the equivocations. If the weather gets hotter, it means global warming. If it gets colder, that also means global warming. Any weather change at all is clear evidence of global warming.

Vague arguments are awesome...they're impossible to lose.
2014-05-06 12:24:15 PM  
1 votes:
OMG! The Climate has never changed before! The Earth's climate was always static before now! Everybody panic!

angryblackladychronicles.com
2014-05-05 10:42:20 PM  
1 votes:
2014-05-05 06:42:51 PM  
1 votes:

TyrantII: Saiga410: I think he is wrong.  Yes the earth survived a collision with a planetoid the size of mars and yes over the years we have gone through at least one complete snowball phase let alone heavy glaciation and periods of heavy warming, but this time it is different because of the fungability of carbon atoms.... readuponit.

That collision was before life started and would be whats known as a sterilization event.  Life would most likely survive as long as the crust stays relatively intact, but a collision of that size would have enough energy to melt everything to mantel.

As for CO2, there were periods much worse than what we're doing.  Our ancestors were also basically proto mice and miraculously lived through it in some ecological niche.

If we keep this up, humanity will be around.  But I hope you like the Dark Ages: Part II.  Assuming we don't nuke each other over water resources and farmable land first.


http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/uxpil/ive_been_playing_the_sam e_game_of_civilization_ii/
2014-05-05 06:18:15 PM  
1 votes:
The absolutely stunning thing that hasn't been mentioned is how much cheaper it would be to avoid collapse by actively switching to other energy sources. Talk about the psychosis of fatalism.
2014-05-05 05:57:20 PM  
1 votes:

lake_huron: mr lawson: Monty845: Nature had its chance and blew it.

WE ARE NATURE.
I think it did quite well.

No no no.

You see, when a beaver builds a dam, or bees build a hive, that's NATURAL.

When humans building a building, that's UNNATURAL.

See the distinction?

/I don't, but many people do for some reason.
//News flash: living things change their environments.


Carlin did that one, too.

"The word "natural" is completely meaningless! Everything is natural! Nature includes everything! It's not just trees and flowers! It's everything! A chemical company's toxic waste is completely natural! It's part of the nature! We're all part of nature! Everything is natural! Dog shiat is natural! It's just not real good food!"
2014-05-05 03:25:49 PM  
1 votes:

mr lawson: Monty845: Nature had its chance and blew it.

WE ARE NATURE.
I think it did quite well.


No no no.

You see, when a beaver builds a dam, or bees build a hive, that's NATURAL.

When humans building a building, that's UNNATURAL.

See the distinction?

/I don't, but many people do for some reason.
//News flash: living things change their environments.
2014-05-05 03:10:13 PM  
1 votes:

ModernPrimitive01: maybe the Earth will be better off after we're gone


It will definitely be better off after we're gone.

Cybernetic: People who exhort others to "Save the Planet" have always irritated me because the planet doesn't need saving. It never has, and it never will. Humans (and other living things) may very well need saving. But the planet will be here regardless.


Because you're not smart enough to understand when they say, "save the planet" that's shorthand for saying, "save the ecosystem that supports human life?"

The planet will not be here regardless. Our sun is going to destroy it.
2014-05-05 03:04:36 PM  
1 votes:

yakmans_dad: It will come from successive years of a heat wave that does in the American/Canadian grain belt. At 114F corn dies. It did that a couple of years ago in western Kansas. One afternoon, temps went to 114. The next morning the fields involved were grey. They weren't withered. They weren't stunted. They were dead.


Yup.  It doesn't take much of a shift in the mean to turn a "thousand year heat wave" outlier day into an event that occurs every couple of summers.

Agriculture/water is where we'll notice the hit first.  Modern farming is incredibly adapted to a narrow climate range, and we reap great dividends from it in terms of tons/acre.  But if the temperature and/or precipitation patterns jiggle around and stay jiggled, it's not like you just move the cornfield 100 miles north.  The soil's different, the terrain is different, the water table is different, etc.

Can we adapt to that?  Sure.  But it's going to be very expensive and the interim won't be fun, especially if you're poor.  All the major economic studies on climate change points towards one warning: Mitigation of emissions is much cheaper than dealing with the consequences of inaction.
2014-05-05 02:17:12 PM  
1 votes:

zamboni: EvilEgg: There are too many of to get rid of completely. Things will probably get less comfortable, however. Even if 99% of us go that's still 71 million left.

An interesting thing I saw once, not sure when, don't remember where; but it is believed that, at one point, the human race was down to about 1000 breeding pairs. (Or, I guess, 1 if you're thinking Adam and Eve.)

Amazing really. We almost didn't make the cut.

Ding, ding. Round two. Nature tries to "fix the glitch."


Nature had its chance and blew it. At our currently level of technology, nature isn't going to get rid of us without destroying pretty much all multi-cellular life along with us. Basically it would take a luna sized asteroid to even have a shot at it. Yeah, it could get pretty nasty, nature/humanity could "destroy civilization as we know it", but we will go on, rebuild, maybe repeat, but it would be almost impossible to really get rid of us. All the methane trapped undersea could release tomorrow, the death toll would be enormous, governments might collapse, but we would go on.
2014-05-05 02:14:16 PM  
1 votes:

ModernPrimitive01: maybe the Earth will be better off after we're gone


Earth with neither be worse nor better off, it will be the same as it always has been. It will just be.
2014-05-05 02:14:10 PM  
1 votes:

Saiga410: I think he is wrong.  Yes the earth survived a collision with a planetoid the size of mars and yes over the years we have gone through at least one complete snowball phase let alone heavy glaciation and periods of heavy warming, but this time it is different because of the fungability of carbon atoms.... readuponit.


That collision was before life started and would be whats known as a sterilization event.  Life would most likely survive as long as the crust stays relatively intact, but a collision of that size would have enough energy to melt everything to mantel.

As for CO2, there were periods much worse than what we're doing.  Our ancestors were also basically proto mice and miraculously lived through it in some ecological niche.

If we keep this up, humanity will be around.  But I hope you like the Dark Ages: Part II.  Assuming we don't nuke each other over water resources and farmable land first.
2014-05-05 02:08:41 PM  
1 votes:
maybe the Earth will be better off after we're gone
 
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